How To Choose The Right Saw Frame and Saw Blades - All About Piercing Saws and Blades

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2019
  • Piercing or sawing, you need two items to do it. A saw frame and blades. In this film Andrew takes you through the process of choosing the right frame for your needs and deciding on which size saw blade to use.
    Plenty of hints and tips to be learnt in this film. Don't forget to stick around for the bloopers.
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    Andrew Berry, a professional jeweller for 30 years, is the training director of www.AtTheBench.com, an award winning on line jewellery training website.
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  • @karenw8929
    @karenw8929 2 года назад +4

    Thanks Andrew. I'm just upgrading my skill level and saw blades were one of my questions - such a comprehensive answer that I now know how to think about sawing better.

  • @ionsorinporojan149
    @ionsorinporojan149 4 года назад +2

    Hello !!!
    Im new in making jewels ...I began last year with making silver coin rings... Now Im making signet rings , hollow rings , medieval rings , and some bracelets and ear rings too ...everything in silver . Im happy to learn new things , so Ive just subscribed to your youtube chanel .
    Thanks brother !!!
    Sorin / Roumania

  • @hanamoreton6543
    @hanamoreton6543 4 года назад +12

    Brilliant explanation as always! My teacher used to say you needed a “twing” and not a “twong” sound for the correct tension... it’s always served me well!

    • @eliot6989
      @eliot6989 4 месяца назад

      But not so much as to get a twink? Is that too far?

  • @saltwithlove6478
    @saltwithlove6478 4 года назад +1

    You make fantastic , definitive videos , and you have saved this learner ,many hours , much frustration and ultimately money , already . Thank you so much .

  • @possummanrld
    @possummanrld 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for your very helpful insights! Your "3 teeth to the metal" rule was very helpful indeed!

  • @robinjacobs3553
    @robinjacobs3553 4 года назад +1

    Love the bloopers! Always count on ATB for great tips

  • @mikatorkkeli4932
    @mikatorkkeli4932 4 года назад

    Good info, some i knew but some i learned from this video. Newer done any precious metals as jewellery but other metal working. Thanks, will be watching more.

  • @mr.coinsack826
    @mr.coinsack826 4 года назад

    Fantastic! Alot I did not know about or forgot!! Thanks!

  • @CoinRingsfromTheMint
    @CoinRingsfromTheMint 4 года назад

    Great rundown on saws and blades! I'm going to pick up a new non adjustable saw frame. I just never knew how to tension them.

  • @allanthompson9695
    @allanthompson9695 Год назад

    Great tutorial on piercing and saws. Loads of tips and advice. Cheers Andrew.

  • @minotaurstudios8163
    @minotaurstudios8163 3 года назад +1

    I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!! I can't believe I have been installing my blades wrong. Thank you!!!!!

  • @plainnpretty
    @plainnpretty Год назад

    Thanks for sharing this

  • @patrickmcnelis1520
    @patrickmcnelis1520 4 года назад

    Thanks for the great info again!!

  • @507helmet
    @507helmet 4 года назад +1

    Change You Can Wear channel sent me your way! Glad he did! you have a lot of great information for the greenhorn!

  • @sistersilver
    @sistersilver 4 года назад +1

    Great show. I always wondered why Knew Concepts was a good idea. Thanks for explaining. I'll look at mine in a new light and forgive the difficulty getting blades positioned in it. I found a need for giant depths for LARGE pieces. They are harder to use because balancing them is difficult, but if the piece is a foot or 18" in diameter, the little ones won't do. I hope you have some of the larger ones hidden in your hoard!

  • @paullemay3218
    @paullemay3218 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for sharing. I used an adjustable for years but I now really enjoy the “New Concept” frame. The one I use has the cam adjustment at the top. 😎🇨🇦

    • @robinjacobs3553
      @robinjacobs3553 4 года назад +1

      Paul LeMay I also just got my first new concepts. W one hand in a cast I find it quite useful so far

    • @paullemay3218
      @paullemay3218 4 года назад

      Robin Jacobs that is great.

  • @jennyclark6183
    @jennyclark6183 Год назад

    Gee thanks for all this great information Andrew!

  • @TheNavster2
    @TheNavster2 Год назад

    Firstly, let me say thank you and secondly, I really like your saw frame guitar at 18:20. Keep it up😂🙌

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 4 года назад +5

    What is stopping you from buying a Green Lion saw tomorrow and trying it out. It's not likely to be lonely with the brethren you've amassed. 👍

  • @joytekb
    @joytekb 2 года назад

    Your lesson coming from your rich experience are invaluable .

  • @piecetoyou8285
    @piecetoyou8285 3 месяца назад

    Andrew,
    Very professional as always in theses videos , I know were all adults here but how did you keep a straight face from 4:04 - 4:35 but there again I did see you hold back laugh at 4:07
    I suppose it shows a good sense of humor,we could do with humor in these terrible last few years,

  • @gregcushing1716
    @gregcushing1716 4 года назад

    Skylar :"From change you can wear"Wants you to pick me.Your videos are very easy to follow along to. Thanks again for the great info.

  • @nepentheoflethe
    @nepentheoflethe Год назад

    The Knew Concepts Mk.IV saw and the Green Lion are my favorites above all others for completely different reasons. The Mk.IV is just ingenious, I actually have two of them because I love them so much and keep different saw blades in each one for quick use, I usually use them on larger/deeper pieces because of its capabilities. But the Green Lion is so sleek, smooth, and elegant, I like to use it for much finer smaller pieces. The only time I ever use a different saw is for spiral wax blades, they’re shorter than the usual blade length so I have them in a German adjustable frame. But for every day sawing it’s always Knew Concepts or Green Lion. I would have a really difficult time choosing one over the other, it’d be like having to choose a favorite child or something, I love them both. Get a Green Lion, you need one of these in your life! I really hope you got one since you posted this video.

  • @olivemountain9142
    @olivemountain9142 4 года назад

    SOLDER! Haha honestly though, great channel. Change you can wear recommended you, so...keep up thr great work mate!

  • @carolhettenbach3572
    @carolhettenbach3572 Год назад

    Love the Green Lion, wish I could afford to send you one to try.

  • @flyingcheff
    @flyingcheff 4 года назад +2

    It IS so much better to use all 6 inches! Much better sawing. Green Lion saws are available for purchase, that's how I got mine, LOVE IT!!

  • @Kindri9
    @Kindri9 2 года назад

    Thank you! I completely forgot how to tension my blade and it was driving my crazy.

  • @EaselCat
    @EaselCat 4 года назад +1

    More bloopers!!!!

  • @DianneCulbertsonJacques
    @DianneCulbertsonJacques 3 года назад

    I love my Knew Concepts 8". I never have to back out!

  • @watchrepairworld1203
    @watchrepairworld1203 2 месяца назад

    You are marvellous ❤❤❤

  • @msstarlight4770
    @msstarlight4770 4 года назад +1

    Kia ora,
    Skyler from the channel: 'Change you can make' would like you to choose someone to win the silver-lined New Zealand half crown ring he's just made. Please choose me. It's a stunningly beautiful ring & watching it getting made was amazing.
    As a New Zealander it would mean a lot to me to wear it.
    Your channel looks interesting, can't wait to see more.☺

  • @leogrigorian5379
    @leogrigorian5379 2 месяца назад

    bro couldent resist the lil laugh

  • @nofd1977
    @nofd1977 4 года назад

    Awesome channel mate! Skylar from the channel- change you can wear - sent me and wanted me to let you know he thinks your awesome. Oh and he said to just let him know that nofd1977 got that giveaway ring👍

  • @seidomonkey5395
    @seidomonkey5395 4 года назад +1

    Excellent as usual. Please could you do a video on what you really do need to start up. Especially if you have a budget.
    Many thanks Helen 🤗

    • @flyingcheff
      @flyingcheff 4 года назад +1

      What are you wanting to start up? There's so much to look forward to!!

    • @seidomonkey5395
      @seidomonkey5395 4 года назад

      Flying Chef just looking to see what the basics or necessity tools are really to start silversmithing. 😀

  • @RonBateman-vl2wz
    @RonBateman-vl2wz 2 дня назад

    Jewelers saw blades have been referred to at lest for the last 50 years in the US as aught as in 2/0 = 2 aught 4/0 = 4 aught and so on. Just an FYI.

  • @pijnto
    @pijnto 4 года назад

    I have been using a simple German made adjustable frame for 20 years, ( three different sizes) I have never adjusted them though, fitted a better handle, new concept would be nice to try although at $200 is out of my price range, Vallorbe Super Pike blades are the best I have ever used

    • @trevorfolkes7429
      @trevorfolkes7429 4 года назад

      pijnto Cooksonsgold in London stock Green Lion saw. American.wierd looking thing. 68.00. I am retired jeweller,enjoy your films, takes me back. To the bench. Thank you

  • @AtselWarawara
    @AtselWarawara 4 года назад

    Hi Andrew!
    I have one of those Swiss frames and the top is little shaky, is that normal?
    Also... have you seen the Knew concepts "bird cage" frame? the tension clamp is the same as the others but the frame is quite different.

  • @jacobkotten338
    @jacobkotten338 3 года назад +1

    Lol he laughed when he said long stoke

  • @TheMayflowerPilgrem
    @TheMayflowerPilgrem 4 года назад

    I have problems with my eclips frame (same as yours) holding blades smaller then 4/0. Ive tried filing more groves in the nuts but that metal is harder then my files. Any suggestions?

  • @andijvie3119
    @andijvie3119 3 года назад

    That red funky saw is like the LV of the all saws

  • @amandabyram4490
    @amandabyram4490 4 года назад

    Brilliant info are you doing one next on sawblades themselves and the thickness of silver to be used with, I mostly get 2/0 and the Vallorbe from cooksons is this a good choice?

    • @Atthebench
      @Atthebench  4 года назад +1

      Yes this is a good choice. You don’t want to buy cheap blades

  • @jlunaro
    @jlunaro 4 года назад

    I used one of these when I was at school. sadly I hadn't this information and i broke a lot of saw blades until I learned.

  • @mandymcclure717
    @mandymcclure717 Год назад

    I have purchased several saws and different blades all the way to size 5 to try and figure this out and i just don’t understand this sort of saw. What do you suggest I can use if this doesn’t ever begin to make sense ? Ty I really love metalsmithing. I bought my torches then I suddenly became afraid of the propane so I am having a very difficult time. Ty for your videos

  • @ingelalindblad9048
    @ingelalindblad9048 2 года назад

    Perfect rundown, now I know why my blades always snap

  • @TheMayflowerPilgrem
    @TheMayflowerPilgrem 4 года назад +2

    I just got my 6"frame this morning. Im starting to think alot of us are thinking the same thing at the same time.

  • @the64collector
    @the64collector 4 года назад

    where can I purchase the new concept red frame?

  • @CharlieRoberts407
    @CharlieRoberts407 4 года назад

    What’s a good quality bade in your opinion?

  • @Locreai
    @Locreai 2 года назад

    What blades for cattle bone?

  • @AngelaSams
    @AngelaSams 4 года назад

    Remember: Down and Out @angelaksams I love my @KnewConcepts saw frame. I like the LaserGold blades from @RioGrande

  • @mateuszminsky5619
    @mateuszminsky5619 Год назад

    so If a I am cutting a bullion piece of fine silver that is (9/16") 7mm then I need a blade with 2.3 teeth per 7mm?
    How many saws does one need? I'm working on a multi saw, like one of those frames with the tension clamp, but holds three blades where the side blades will be adjustable and the center blade stationary..

  • @aliciamurti1071
    @aliciamurti1071 Год назад

    I'm from Sydney and just starting out, I'd love to get you a greenlion saw Andrew! How do I go about this? ....Very, veeeeery late to the game, like three years late, I know!😅

  • @elyknavillus777
    @elyknavillus777 6 месяцев назад

    So do I need a frame for each blade like you or do you have a problem

  • @Ken_Dalton
    @Ken_Dalton 4 года назад

    Andrew, the lovely Mr Berry😊 u know iv been a huge fan an learned sooo much from u these past couple of years? Well another RUclipsr I follow called Tyler, has a channel too and has did a shout out to u an your channel an is running a competition to get one of us lot to get in touch with u for u to pick the competition winner lol.. This is not a joke. I think he is a fan of your solder work(like us all) 😉 if u pick me to win, I promise to like an comment on all your videos for life an I may even share some.. Thank u Andrew the decision is in your hands tho. His name is Tyler and channel is called "change you can wear".

  • @welshgoldferret5107
    @welshgoldferret5107 4 года назад +1

    Que the innuendos... 😂
    Eclipse has always been good, not sure on the modern Eclipse?

  • @domestikgoddez9823
    @domestikgoddez9823 Год назад

    anybody???? what is the difference between tooth blades and spiral blades when using a saw??? thanks

  • @Nicolchu_
    @Nicolchu_ 4 года назад +1

    4:00-4:38 with No volume... You kill me :D !

    • @spidersinspace1099
      @spidersinspace1099 4 года назад

      I have to believe he over elaborated on that part on purpose, haha.

  • @jerryhuntjj2885
    @jerryhuntjj2885 4 года назад

    Jus subscribed to your channel thanks to Skylar . He has a contest wanting you to pick a person to win a ring. Happy Thanksgiving and consider me for the contest

  • @highvibemysticallifestyle
    @highvibemysticallifestyle 4 года назад +1

    I have a Green Lion saw. Its pretty, but honestly I find no difference between it and my basic fixed frame I used in college. I had the Knew saw and gave it away. I could not ever get my blades in correctly, they kept twisting. It frustrated me and I just gave up. That was first generation Knew saw so maybe I should try again?

    • @AtselWarawara
      @AtselWarawara 4 года назад +1

      I have a knew concepts knockoff that I bought just for economy and works perfectly I'm really looking to buy the original.

  • @paulwiggins183
    @paulwiggins183 Год назад

    The Swiss frame is far and away the best for beginners because of its' weight and price. 3.5 oz for $15. Precise work with 5/0 blades is much easier with this light frame.

  • @toddpote2937
    @toddpote2937 4 года назад

    You have another subscriber..... I was told to check out your videos by Skylar change you can wear......And if you would be so kind and let him know Todd Pote ask you to please do this thank you very much Andrew Berry

  • @leonardbone8496
    @leonardbone8496 3 года назад +1

    No short stroking here.... ;)

  • @64t120r
    @64t120r 4 года назад

    The green lion saw. Is that the frame that's rustic, rounded C shape, made in the u.s., in small batches, sometimes there's a waiting list? Maybe we can make a little trade.

    • @flyingcheff
      @flyingcheff 4 года назад

      yep, that's it, an exceptional saw! And all you have to do to have one, is BUY IT!!

    • @64t120r
      @64t120r 4 года назад

      @@flyingcheff Hahahaha. Apparently Andrew doesn't know that.

    • @64t120r
      @64t120r 4 года назад +1

      All that aside, I still prefer trading with people. It's fun and I've ended up with some really cool things.

  • @craigmckee1807
    @craigmckee1807 4 года назад

    what is the brand name of the English saw?

    • @Atthebench
      @Atthebench  4 года назад

      It’s an Eclipse piercing saw frame

  • @nitinsoni6161
    @nitinsoni6161 3 года назад

    Hello sir

  • @nitinsoni6161
    @nitinsoni6161 3 года назад

    How to buy

    • @Atthebench
      @Atthebench  3 года назад +1

      How to buy what? All products available from a jewellery tools supplier in your country

  • @jimbenge9649
    @jimbenge9649 4 года назад +3

    Bearing in mind that the majority of people are right handed. Why do they always put the nuts, especially wing nuts, on the left where they interfere with fingers and thumb holding down the piece you are cutting.

    • @andijvie3119
      @andijvie3119 3 года назад +2

      Because most of them turn the sawframe upside down to “push” for tensioning the sawblade.

  • @minstral261
    @minstral261 4 года назад

    Hi Andrew. Got encouraged to look at your channel from another channel called change you can wear. He obviously respects your channel as he said if one of his viewers can get you to choose a subscribed viewer and get you to email him a name he'd give them a coin ring he made on his latest vid. Would love if it was me. His site is changeyoucawear.net anyway. Now to browse ya vids. Just a learner myself. Thanks, luke

  • @bunny1go
    @bunny1go 4 года назад

    naughty boy :-D

  • @crazycanadian8471
    @crazycanadian8471 4 года назад

    Awesone channel Andrew you dont know me im new to your channel but another you tuber as im sure u will hear from others who will be subscribing tonyour channel in order he wants u to pick a winner for a ring he is giving away and want you to email him. I am actually not interested in his ring as i am asking him to make a wedding ring set of silver from a set of coins as im getting remarried to my wife in may 2020. So when u eventually email him for the person u chose to win his ring and email him. So i wish u luck lol im sure u have a lot of work cut out for u wish u luck. Ut now u have a new subsciber to your channel ty for your vids very interesting and educational on ur diff saws ty by the way the channel is from change you can wear

  • @alanmaribor
    @alanmaribor 4 года назад

    Do you like silver coin? I do🤣. I like silver ring too, do you? How i lucky, to be i a winer. You dont know🤣🤣🤣

  • @chriscox52282
    @chriscox52282 4 года назад

    Fixed frame has no adjustment for tension... No thanks.

  • @seanmcguire6998
    @seanmcguire6998 Год назад

    You want blades that you won’t be wasting time changing. TIME = $$$

  • @stevecoster322
    @stevecoster322 4 года назад

    Hiya, a repeat of an old video, nothing new, a bit of a let down...