They needed another Avengers movie sinc Endgame, the New Avengers and Young Avengers should of been a thing, they abandoned so much to focus straighttt away on this "multiverse saga"! You can't compete with over ten years of movies that all sum up to one story essentially, have that branded as a saga, then try tell us oh yeah we're doing that all again with a different villain, before anyyy of this happened it felt a little off to me, they're telling us they're going to stretchhhh it out for a whole "saga", this will last years and it will all be worth it, except it wasnt, Kang in QM was supposed to be THE Kang until they realised we didn't like how he was defeated so now he's being dubbed the dumb Kang? Okay let's see how this all plays out, it's mad that when they think they know what we want, we really don't, get some comic book fans working at Marvel! My MAIN point is they're trying to retrace their steps but I feel it was better when they didn't always know where the destination was, which made the journey sooo much better, and we still have no clue about an actual avengers team 😅
I don’t think they’re looking to bring OGs back full-time. I’m more expecting glorifying cameos. When you establish that Secret Wars is the ultimate endgame, and the concepts of the multiverse and variants have become the norm, it’s as clear as day that Marvel is looking to feature former leads/characters from both MCU and non-MCU related materials.
@@kylecarter1599 stuff that works with comic fans doesn't work with movie fans their audiences man plus its just not a valid point at all for you to say that everyone should accept everything that works in a comic book that doest work for all audiences
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn I would go HAM if I see RDJ cameo just one more movie against Kang. Can’t have Kang without Iron Man. I am both a comic and movie fan btw.
The only real movie that looks fine is gonna be Deadpool 3. Gonna be nothing but more flops on the horizon. At the very least, DP3 will be better than MoM
The current plan is to bring back RDJ as an A.I. Tony or for flashbacks in Armor Wars then bring back everyone as variants in Secret Wars and possibly in a more minor role in the rebooted MCU. The sacrifices made by these characters would still be left in tact and we get to keep the actors in the MCU. Looks like a win-win-win for everyone.
In the comics that story has worked. My question is can they afford to pay RDJ money to be a hologram for Riri. I just wish that variants looked the same.
Everyone saying that characters coming back will ruin arcs is choosing to ignore Loki, which is proving that theory false by not only making us care about 1 variant, but 2.
I think marvel needs an animated show like star wars had clone wars. Something deep and lore heavy disguising itself as a kids show that kids can watch and fans could get behind. What if was trying to be that but it was like too tied in and just an easter egg buffet. It could be the connective tissue to make movies and shows that didn't hit make sense. My suggestion is to reboot Agents of Shield in this way (a show that is horribly neglected in MCU conversations)
Honestly seeing all these outlets this week reporting “ RDJ return, Scarlett return” it’s just annoying. We know we will get them back at somepoint before secret wars ends anyway. All this reporting is just nonsense like Coy said, this stuff was already in the plan but people just think they can capitalise of other peoples loses 👍🏽
The only way that Iron Man should come back is giving us more context to that scene where he figures out time travel. I know I’m not the only one that thinks there’s more to that moment
Because unfortunately one of the best actors that has ever played a superhero succumbed during a silent and secret fight with a lethal and awful disease. T’Challa died. Chadwick died. But he left his legacy to the world, and in the MCU, a son that goes by his same name to continue his legacy. The reason "in story" that OUR Stark, Natasha and Gamora are capable to comeback is connected to the Soul stone, not different timelines or time travel.
@@zaurijunior Dude it's a comic world not a reflection of our real world. If they can bring back the other Avengers they can bring back "A BLACK PANTHER". My guy I have seen every Marvel movie lol I don't need any recaps.
Just play out the rest of the multiverse and then move on to X-Men and Fantastic Four. There's plenty of characters and stories to tell for a 10 plus year Saga. And then in that, bring in some of the OGs to maybe top off that final Avenger movie
after watching the Lego avengers movie they just made I do kinda hope they find a way to introduce a universe where the avengers and X-men have been apart of the same world for awhile and we can see Wolverine interact with captain America and hulk and stuff like that… it also would be so cool to see tony stark and reed Richard’s interact but we probably won’t get it because all of those main avengers are dead and our universe
Am i wrong? The Marvels will be the first movie to use new Disney+ characters in Kamala and Monica. We were promised connection but its just been a lot of new semi interesting characters that we dont see again in both movies and shows.
Yes and No! who they should resurrect is the main aos cast like cmon how long we gotta wait for a melinda may daisy fitzsimmons phil coul mack yoyo wtf the mcu needs them
I'm 40 and when I was 9 I was Spider-Man. And to think that there was a generation before and after me that trick or treat as Spider-Man is truly awesome. It makes me think that Peter Parker may be more iconic than Superman and Bat-Man. Those have to be the top 3 super hero characters.
Overall what Marvel REALLY needs are comic book nerds working on these projects aswell! They needed another team up Avengers movie since Endgame, they should of made a New Avengers team up movie introduce some street level heroes too, they REALLY should of had a Young Avengers project, soo much wasted potential that we might not get before the big reset! They're trying to retrace their steps from the Infinity saga but I feel it was better when they didn't always know where the destination was, which made the journey sooo much more enjoyable, and we still have no clue about an actual current Avengers team 😅
Another thing is there's only so much time, if X-Men and Fantastic Four is really the next big step, there's no room to reboot the current MCU. We already see the disconnect when it takes 3 to 4 years before we see follow up movies. Pick core group of 10, 3 out of those 10 give them trilogies with a few solo movies along with 2 to 3 Avenger movies. That's a lot of work.
If we must, i'd like it if Chris Evans returned as Cap only so we can see how Old Cap came to be and how he fits into the narrative. Maybe Old Cap is the same Cap who went to the past but returned to this very point because he knows that the timelime he left behind needs a Captain America for the coming fight. And this was his final attempt to make sure the people he cared about were protected and prepared. But even if it doesn't happen, it would be better not to linger.
Marvel doesnt know wtf it wants to do, the marvel method only works until it doesnt. They need a better vision and more focus on what they are trying to say. These properties, for the most part, arent saying anything that resonates with most audiences.
They can bring anyone back as long as its not from the 616 timeline because the tva was always supposed to be pruning them in real time. It would contradict He Who Remains whole plan in the first place. He was able to keep his varients out so, his story has to hold at least until Kang Dynasty.
The TVA is no longer pruning timelines. After Loki S2 Ep4, there may not even be a TVA anymore...and even if there is, they made it clear in S2, E2 that their job will no longer be pruning timelines, but protecting them from being destroyed.
@@jcIIXVIIIVII Time does work differently in the tva and the avengers had to beat Thanos(2.0). Iron Man was only one who could handle it given the time. Dr. Strange already looked into it.
1:08 heavy title, heavy title 🤣 I was thinking the same, the absolute tonal change which came out of breath was spot on Brandon👏🏾 Also I can't lie for a second I thought he was going to say the she hulk actresses' name, the call came from inside the house
5:40 Evans would do it for sure, he's a real trooper but I don't want to hear about RDJ not being cheap to get back, he should do it for a fair amount like the fellow Avengers especially being out for so long, stepping back in and earning wayyy more than any Avenger who has still been around is dirty, even in AoU he was getting a bit more than the rest which didnt feel right, and he should also do it for the sake of his character which he made his own who is still a pinnacle of this MCU, he knows the fanbase behind his Tony Stark as well so that should factor into it tbh!
The problem with the MCU recently is that they've been building out instead of building up. They've introduced so many new characters but haven't developed them. For example, Shang Chi came out two years ago and they haven't done anything with him.
On the other hand, this does “solve” The past criticism of the MCU that you have to keep up with every entry to understand what’s going on. General fans have wanted more self contained stories, and when they do get them, now they’re complaining they’re not connecting to anything. So which one is it?
@@delmarfrazier2727 been over two years, Shang chi came out sept 3rd, 2021. Same thing with Sam Wilson as captain America, it’s been 2 years since we’ve seen him too
I mean… the endgame is “Secret Wars”. Comics fans know what the recent version of that story entails. When Feige and co. announced that and “Kang Dynasty” were the next Avengers entries, it was clear as day that Of course they’re gonna bring back these characters. Not necessarily the ones that died, but VARIANTS of them. The fact that the multiverse and variants are now concepts they’ve established and run with, it’s really only a matter of time til they bring back versions of dead characters. Hell, they’ve been doing it with Loki and Gamora. With Secret Wars, the opportunity is to not only bring back versions of past characters within the MCU, but also past versions of Marvel characters outside the MCU. The multiverse has more than set up these possibilities.
Disney got involved in politics and its crushed them. Even wjth great writing i think theyve just turned off alot of people from wanting to watch. I know a couple people that went from getting tickets early every movie to not watching at all. Idk how you fix it
The soul stone, gang. The answer is the soul stone. Not the multiverse. Remember those visions that Thanos and Stark have once they snap the gauntlet (Stark’s scene ended up on the cutting room floor). The soul stone has a power itself, we’ve seen all the infinity stones working separately, BUT the soul stone. It’s not a coincidence, that’s the Deus Ex Machina. Read Infinity War (the comics, not the film), the second saga after Infinity Gauntlet.
I love this line up👏🏾 and I appreciate Coy being a little more reserved with the passion for this stuff not saying its a bad thing to be either because we need that, I just think the honesty makes it easier 😅
Wait…so is no one gonna question where the hell Iron mans daughter is?? Or if she will show up again at all? Tony Stark is a big part of the Mcu history do they just leave her and pepper be or just ignoring it since allegedly pepper Potts won’t be showing up anymore…his daughter would be an excellent reason for him to actually wanna come back to help fight…
17:43 yeah I don't get why they're so shook to do that, for years some of us have been saying they should give us R rated Marvel content as well as the family friendly disney side of it! Making disney + was great to begin with but then became a shot in the foot when most of us would just wait for the new movies to drop on there a month after releasing in cinemas 😂 how they expect to keep characters like Blade, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Deadpool, Wolverine etc all PG and stay interesting is beyond me, and stop with the antiheroes and sympathetic villain backstories, just straight up evil and violence needs to be seeded into this just in time for an overall balanced reset with secret wars which will give us ALL of the characters back on the home turf, an age I definitely didnt think we'd get in my lifetime, I'm just excited for the new MCU after secret wars tbh and I hope that if he remains pardon the pun Kang gets some good moments, I enjoy him as a villain in the comics and animated stuff
FNAF movie was fire, and made way more than that, don't know when you filmed this, and yes, fans, since 2014, we're all at least 10 I'd say, I'm 21, followed it since 2014, the movie is insanely good for what it is, but yeah, a couple problems, and honestly a large bit of sequel bait, but FNAF has always got sequel bait since the lore is so complicated 🙃 As for Marvel focus on new characters, make them cool money makers, everyone wins, except for bigots, they can off themselves
It's the writing. They started great and had a good formula all way to Avengers End Game. They have a wealth of characters and materials, just their execution and quality of writing have been not great.
2:47 save is a bigotry term for marvel right now, they definitely need help and I wouldnt of ever thought I'd have myself saying that, not this soon since Infinity War and Endgame but I think they're somewhere between actively floating and slightly still swimming ahead of most of the competition
Daredevil: knocked to a courtroom show defeats the previous asskicking show that has also to make court on time. Three battles/Intimidating/ Rescues every episode, or hand it up. Secret Wars: You'll have to trust the Beyonder, nobody has seen either series in the MCU. You could just do a weakened version of Illuminati, the MCU fans haven't seen anything. Avengers reboot: As long as it's the Normon Osborn team. Let the Thunderbolts hit them as hard as they can, with different teams. Never stop. All Revised 5th Phase shows: You have Chatgpt and MidJourney anymore, your excuses are sounding stupid. Pay the actors and let's go!
13:25 I genuinely have love and respect for Coy, he speaks what I feel but then backs the BS more than they deserve him to so he's a tough cookie for me😅 yeah it's good to experiment and try new stuff but it isn't just an experimental phase that didn't go well, they thought they had us and we'd accept whatever they threw out from the marvel name alone lol, they set up so much that will probably never come to screen all in favour for pushing Kang on us? I didn't care about the next big bad straight away, Thanos didn't show up until 4 movies in, they should of let it build back up again! I don't think it undermines anything when the movie feels like it came out a decade ago 😂 when something happens and is undone in the very next episode or movie then yeah definitely but here I think they should come back, Brandon is spot on and I've been saying that since Endgame, a AI hologram Tony and a young Steve again, both happened in the comics and I'm sure those who do, all still read about those characters after they come back so its fine, I would of hatedddd if they brought variants in to take their place, that undermines it, bringing them back helps with the closure, it's only right to be there at the beginning as well as the end, like Coy also says , so which one should it be? 😅 Like I said tough cookie
Fans have no attachment to the new characters. There haven't been any new avengers movies since endgame. So there's no reason for people to be invested in the new characters.
6:22 100%, and without massive pay differences, I agree with Coy but l also want all the actors to be able to buy a yacht if they wanted and not just RDJ 😅 30 billion is crazy, that's just ONE franchise, and the world wonders why soo much of the suffering that can be solved with money hasn't been yet? Mental, but hey we still get our constant entertainment ey 😅 not saying I don't enjoy all of this and add to that amount because I definitely do but it is insane the amount that goes into this industry
I honestly don't understand this thought process. Feige became who he is today by taking massive risks and getting it all on his passionate singular vison. When he adds his personal touch on each film before release we knew we were in good hands but with the release of D+ his attention is split and things fell by the waist as well as Covid, Majors and woke culture influencing the machine as it grew larger and larger. We knew after endgame there would be a period of time that no matter what, nothing would live up to the event we all experienced together at the culmination. But, we've had only 2 shows of true quality through the D+ release and one awesome film in NWH. Everything else is quantity not the quality we've been use to. I know I can't expect RDJs iron man to stay in the hall of fame forever w out being recast but I hoped I'd be dead by then. its far too soon for any of these actors whom are dead or written out to come back. It cheapens what they accomplished and will tarnish MCUs credibility in the long run. Marvel has access to thousands of characters. No one knew guardians before they were who they are. Hire a passionate director and figure out that chemistry works, and Kevin needs to get back to that rather than what he's been doing. They can be a great people, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for quality projects, they have sent Feige, the one and only. So fix it lol.
Or they could do what they're actually planning to do, which is respect each show runners vision for their own shows instead of just having one person or small group of people meddling and trying and juggle every ball. If the MCU is struggling because Kevin Feige's attention is split, the solution isn't just to streamline things so that only his creative input is valued. The solution is to streamline things AND entrust the MCU to good writers and directors and not meddle too heavily in every project. Yes his okay is still important, but it isn't healthy for any creative universe to be entirely defined or influenced by just one person, that limits its ability to grow past a particular point because one person can only pay attention to so many things.
I totally get what you mean. Heres the thing, Kevin knows the broad strokes and says to each creative ln each new project to go nuts with their individual story so long as it doesn't interfere with those major plot points. Now Kevin cant explain to each new creative team what his macro vision is for fear of it getting leaked. Marvel has gone through an absurd amount of writers and directors on projects bc of creative differences. Which makes no sense bc they Def talk about the script, cast and story for him to sign off. I think with out his day to day making sure, idk what it is but the execution has gone badly for projects like Dare Devil. Somethings been going wrong as of late we love these characters and they should focus on character where Kevin's "toiling away at the epilogue" of each phase and making sure they align cleverly. Thats exactly how he was doing it when it was successful. However now there's other influences that are affecting projects. He needs an extension of himself but its collaborative bc Kevin's the one that has to also explain why projects lost money and when Execs try to meddle he can protect the artists vision as well as the business. His job isn't easy and he is who he is for a reason. @@Lisa_Flowers
all it takes is a dude named Coy starting out video by crying "click bait!" on an obviously well reported piece from a well respected reporter wherein there are new details about Majors that have not been made public whilst on a panel with two other dudes to realize that one never has to click on another one of these videos ever again. well done.
He was always gonna come back, some time just had to pass and go on to other stories (and so the actor hisself can have a break) there will be a WAY bigger threat coming (especially if it includes who he made the sacrifice for (Peter/Mrs.Potts etc) all this talk bout it’s gonna ruin his legacy…the man died for some stones being used as paper weights! I’d come back from the dead mad af 😂 If he found out he died just for them to die anyway from an incursion or something I’m SURE he would wanna team up and help prevent that
I don’t agree.. bring em back! They’ve shown they don’t know how to use or incorporate the newer characters. Give these vanilla ass story makers characters they know until u can get another Kevin feige type
I mean… the endgame is Secret Wars. Of course they’re gonna bring back these characters. Not necessarily the ones that died, but VARIANTS of them. The fact that the multiverse and variants are now concepts they’ve established and run with, it’s really only a matter of time til they bring back versions of dead characters. Hell, they’ve been doing it with Loki and Gamora. With Secret Wars, the opportunity is to not only bring back versions of past characters within the MCU, but also past versions of Marvel characters outside the MCU. The multiverse has more than set up these possibilities.
Kids go trick or treating as Spider-Man because their parents dress them as such lol it has nothing to do with whether those characters are good or not. Nostalgia is a hoe
Fluff piece or not, MCU is in a terrible state. They need less movies and tv shows. MCU releases used to be events. Now I just rolled my eyes when I see a new release. Also, no more multiverse. It is overstuffed, complicated and convoluted.
I gotta be honest, if marvel does this idiocy and revives these dead avengers, I’m out. Panicking and caving to the chuds is pathetic and I don’t have time or energy to support that nonsense
I'm so glad this question is getting brought up, it's been asked for a whileee now and not just about Stark, but Cap also, let's not forget, they're legacy characters for this entireeee thing, people still talk about them years later, even Loki season 2 cant help but remind you of Stark! I do think we need them both back at some point before the (hopefully) really big and great reset, and then recast the characters! The MCU needs A Tony Stark, A Steve Rogers, A Natasha Romanov, sadly A T'Challa, I get characters have to die but they and the Avengers team in general have left too much of a mark on the current MCU, having no Avengers team up movie since Endgame wasn't a smart choice imo, it would of helped move this phase along a little while holding it all together
Variety hates either Marvel or Disney. Actually, I think it is the women who have been covering the Jonathan Majors stuff. They have been covering the story as if he is guilty no matter what. They have ignored the video evidence that his ex wasn't injured until after she went to the club. She lied. They also ignored the story about her being arrested for attacking Jonathan last year. I personally thought Robert Downy Jr. was coming back until I watched Hawkeye and realized they were rebooting. Iron Man was my favorite character and I'm not a fan of Riri but I have come to terms with a new Avengers and a young Avengers and X-Men and Fantastic 4. Things change.
Okay yes we need to focus on the newer characters, but for the LOVE OF GOD STOP BEING SO NONCHALANT ABOUT HOW DOG 💩 THE LAST 3 years have been. It’s channels like this that make Disney think it’s okay to keep pushing out the trash they have been. Idk if it’s because someone on this panel has a contract or something signed but it’s hard to listen to you guys beat around the bush about how terrible the path MCU is taking
O7's for the marvel brand,lord of rings,transformers,dc brand,Ghostbusters,harry potter,gi joe,star wars and star trek! we are all fucked and a real-life zombie apocalypse should happen immediately!!
They need to revive their great writing from the past phases.
Right! Even my favorite shows that aren’t marvel have gone to 💩 when it comes to writing
I agree.
They needed another Avengers movie sinc Endgame, the New Avengers and Young Avengers should of been a thing, they abandoned so much to focus straighttt away on this "multiverse saga"! You can't compete with over ten years of movies that all sum up to one story essentially, have that branded as a saga, then try tell us oh yeah we're doing that all again with a different villain, before anyyy of this happened it felt a little off to me, they're telling us they're going to stretchhhh it out for a whole "saga", this will last years and it will all be worth it, except it wasnt, Kang in QM was supposed to be THE Kang until they realised we didn't like how he was defeated so now he's being dubbed the dumb Kang? Okay let's see how this all plays out, it's mad that when they think they know what we want, we really don't, get some comic book fans working at Marvel! My MAIN point is they're trying to retrace their steps but I feel it was better when they didn't always know where the destination was, which made the journey sooo much better, and we still have no clue about an actual avengers team 😅
THAT's what I wanted to say!!!! THANKS!!!!
Facts 😂
Noooooooo the mcu has to focus on new cool characters like ghost rider, silver surfer, nova richard rider etc dont bring back Iron Man
I don’t think they’re looking to bring OGs back full-time. I’m more expecting glorifying cameos. When you establish that Secret Wars is the ultimate endgame, and the concepts of the multiverse and variants have become the norm, it’s as clear as day that Marvel is looking to feature former leads/characters from both MCU and non-MCU related materials.
Spoken like someone who doesn't understand superheroes. Death is temporary at best and a fake out at worst and the MCU should handle it the same way
@@kylecarter1599 stuff that works with comic fans doesn't work with movie fans their audiences man plus its just not a valid point at all for you to say that everyone should accept everything that works in a comic book that doest work for all audiences
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn I would go HAM if I see RDJ cameo just one more movie against Kang. Can’t have Kang without Iron Man. I am both a comic and movie fan btw.
The only real movie that looks fine is gonna be Deadpool 3. Gonna be nothing but more flops on the horizon. At the very least, DP3 will be better than MoM
The current plan is to bring back RDJ as an A.I. Tony or for flashbacks in Armor Wars then bring back everyone as variants in Secret Wars and possibly in a more minor role in the rebooted MCU.
The sacrifices made by these characters would still be left in tact and we get to keep the actors in the MCU.
Looks like a win-win-win for everyone.
In the comics that story has worked. My question is can they afford to pay RDJ money to be a hologram for Riri.
I just wish that variants looked the same.
tony would not save mcu.
good writers will
Yeah I thought it was obvious this was the most likely to happen.
This isn't "the current plan." It's just speculation. No one other than Feige actually knows the plan
@@AlSween They can definitely afford him because he brings in money at the box office and their stock will instantly rise the minute he's back.
Everyone saying that characters coming back will ruin arcs is choosing to ignore Loki, which is proving that theory false by not only making us care about 1 variant, but 2.
@AlphaWolf7567 except L113 is NOT different than the Loki who died in Infinity War. He went through the same arc in season 1.
@@AlphaWolf7567 and feelings can be wrong
@@AlphaWolf7567 they most certainly can if you're willing to change yourself
I think marvel needs an animated show like star wars had clone wars. Something deep and lore heavy disguising itself as a kids show that kids can watch and fans could get behind. What if was trying to be that but it was like too tied in and just an easter egg buffet. It could be the connective tissue to make movies and shows that didn't hit make sense. My suggestion is to reboot Agents of Shield in this way (a show that is horribly neglected in MCU conversations)
Love this idea
Huge sign of desperation if they bring back the original avengers
Is it desperation when they do it constantly in the comics?
I am so genuine when I say I worry that Coy is on the verge of running out of air at any given moment.
Full of hot air…hes in no danger of running out
Imagine kang himself creating a branch by interfering in the final battle of Endgame by killing thanos, ironman wouldn’t be dead then
Honestly seeing all these outlets this week reporting “ RDJ return, Scarlett return” it’s just annoying. We know we will get them back at somepoint before secret wars ends anyway. All this reporting is just nonsense like Coy said, this stuff was already in the plan but people just think they can capitalise of other peoples loses 👍🏽
The only way that Iron Man should come back is giving us more context to that scene where he figures out time travel. I know I’m not the only one that thinks there’s more to that moment
That moment was shown in full. His daughter stole the show. Even showed him talking to his wife after for a while about it
I always thought that scene was too short, esp compared to all the solutioning scenes we’ve seen in the past where he tinkers with the hologram
Sure...revive Ironman and Black Widow but keep trying to defend why Black Panther can't be brought back. Marvel get your ish together!
Because unfortunately one of the best actors that has ever played a superhero succumbed during a silent and secret fight with a lethal and awful disease. T’Challa died. Chadwick died. But he left his legacy to the world, and in the MCU, a son that goes by his same name to continue his legacy. The reason "in story" that OUR Stark, Natasha and Gamora are capable to comeback is connected to the Soul stone, not different timelines or time travel.
@@zaurijunior Dude it's a comic world not a reflection of our real world. If they can bring back the other Avengers they can bring back "A BLACK PANTHER". My guy I have seen every Marvel movie lol I don't need any recaps.
Just play out the rest of the multiverse and then move on to X-Men and Fantastic Four. There's plenty of characters and stories to tell for a 10 plus year Saga. And then in that, bring in some of the OGs to maybe top off that final Avenger movie
With all these time-lines returning, it changes everything and brings back every hero and villain killed off
This makes sense, totally.
after watching the Lego avengers movie they just made I do kinda hope they find a way to introduce a universe where the avengers and X-men have been apart of the same world for awhile and we can see Wolverine interact with captain America and hulk and stuff like that… it also would be so cool to see tony stark and reed Richard’s interact but we probably won’t get it because all of those main avengers are dead and our universe
Am i wrong? The Marvels will be the first movie to use new Disney+ characters in Kamala and Monica. We were promised connection but its just been a lot of new semi interesting characters that we dont see again in both movies and shows.
Thanos and ironman should be saved before snap by the TVA
I was President Loki for Halloween. And barely anyone had a clue who I was. It was shocking.
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Yes and No! who they should resurrect is the main aos cast like cmon how long we gotta wait for a melinda may daisy fitzsimmons phil coul mack yoyo wtf the mcu needs them
I'm 40 and when I was 9 I was Spider-Man. And to think that there was a generation before and after me that trick or treat as Spider-Man is truly awesome. It makes me think that Peter Parker may be more iconic than Superman and Bat-Man. Those have to be the top 3 super hero characters.
As a kid, those 3 were the only superheroes I knew and obviously Spider-man was my favorite
Overall what Marvel REALLY needs are comic book nerds working on these projects aswell! They needed another team up Avengers movie since Endgame, they should of made a New Avengers team up movie introduce some street level heroes too, they REALLY should of had a Young Avengers project, soo much wasted potential that we might not get before the big reset! They're trying to retrace their steps from the Infinity saga but I feel it was better when they didn't always know where the destination was, which made the journey sooo much more enjoyable, and we still have no clue about an actual current Avengers team 😅
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Just popping in to say my kid had a couple friends who were Loki for Halloween, and last year she was Sylvie, so there are younger fans!
I don't want to see the sacrifices in Endgame be ruined. Captain America has a way to come back, the Infinity Stone replacement journey.
No, LEAVE him dead. He made his sacrifice. Time to get over it and move on. There are dozens of other characters to use.
Please don’t bring RDJ back. I love Ironman and the character arc that he ended his career with was epic. Please don’t ruin that. Just my opinion.
Another thing is there's only so much time, if X-Men and Fantastic Four is really the next big step, there's no room to reboot the current MCU. We already see the disconnect when it takes 3 to 4 years before we see follow up movies. Pick core group of 10, 3 out of those 10 give them trilogies with a few solo movies along with 2 to 3 Avenger movies. That's a lot of work.
If we must, i'd like it if Chris Evans returned as Cap only so we can see how Old Cap came to be and how he fits into the narrative. Maybe Old Cap is the same Cap who went to the past but returned to this very point because he knows that the timelime he left behind needs a Captain America for the coming fight. And this was his final attempt to make sure the people he cared about were protected and prepared.
But even if it doesn't happen, it would be better not to linger.
Marvel doesnt know wtf it wants to do, the marvel method only works until it doesnt. They need a better vision and more focus on what they are trying to say. These properties, for the most part, arent saying anything that resonates with most audiences.
And scarlet jo hanson❤
They can bring anyone back as long as its not from the 616 timeline because the tva was always supposed to be pruning them in real time. It would contradict He Who Remains whole plan in the first place. He was able to keep his varients out so, his story has to hold at least until Kang Dynasty.
The TVA is no longer pruning timelines. After Loki S2 Ep4, there may not even be a TVA anymore...and even if there is, they made it clear in S2, E2 that their job will no longer be pruning timelines, but protecting them from being destroyed.
@@jcIIXVIIIVII Time does work differently in the tva and the avengers had to beat Thanos(2.0).
Iron Man was only one who could handle it given the time. Dr. Strange already looked into it.
1:08 heavy title, heavy title 🤣 I was thinking the same, the absolute tonal change which came out of breath was spot on Brandon👏🏾
Also I can't lie for a second I thought he was going to say the she hulk actresses' name, the call came from inside the house
I think the characters need to return not necessarily the actors.... but I need a cap and wolverine scene
I do hope they tie things together in phase 5 because it feels very separated right now
5:40 Evans would do it for sure, he's a real trooper but I don't want to hear about RDJ not being cheap to get back, he should do it for a fair amount like the fellow Avengers especially being out for so long, stepping back in and earning wayyy more than any Avenger who has still been around is dirty, even in AoU he was getting a bit more than the rest which didnt feel right, and he should also do it for the sake of his character which he made his own who is still a pinnacle of this MCU, he knows the fanbase behind his Tony Stark as well so that should factor into it tbh!
The problem with the MCU recently is that they've been building out instead of building up. They've introduced so many new characters but haven't developed them. For example, Shang Chi came out two years ago and they haven't done anything with him.
Not two years
On the other hand, this does “solve”
The past criticism of the MCU that you have to keep up with every entry to understand what’s going on. General fans have wanted more self contained stories, and when they do get them, now they’re complaining they’re not connecting to anything. So which one is it?
@@delmarfrazier2727 been over two years, Shang chi came out sept 3rd, 2021. Same thing with Sam Wilson as captain America, it’s been 2 years since we’ve seen him too
@@Cvmpbell not two years
@@Cvmpbell cry me a river and call my phone when Howard the duck 2🦆 master of the Qrack comes out 😂
I mean… the endgame is “Secret Wars”. Comics fans know what the recent version of that story entails. When Feige and co. announced that and “Kang Dynasty” were the next Avengers entries, it was clear as day that Of course they’re gonna bring back these characters. Not necessarily the ones that died, but VARIANTS of them. The fact that the multiverse and variants are now concepts they’ve established and run with, it’s really only a matter of time til they bring back versions of dead characters. Hell, they’ve been doing it with Loki and Gamora. With Secret Wars, the opportunity is to not only bring back versions of past characters within the MCU, but also past versions of Marvel characters outside the MCU. The multiverse has more than set up these possibilities.
Disney got involved in politics and its crushed them. Even wjth great writing i think theyve just turned off alot of people from wanting to watch. I know a couple people that went from getting tickets early every movie to not watching at all. Idk how you fix it
The soul stone, gang. The answer is the soul stone. Not the multiverse. Remember those visions that Thanos and Stark have once they snap the gauntlet (Stark’s scene ended up on the cutting room floor). The soul stone has a power itself, we’ve seen all the infinity stones working separately, BUT the soul stone. It’s not a coincidence, that’s the Deus Ex Machina. Read Infinity War (the comics, not the film), the second saga after Infinity Gauntlet.
Great episode !
I love this line up👏🏾 and I appreciate Coy being a little more reserved with the passion for this stuff not saying its a bad thing to be either because we need that, I just think the honesty makes it easier 😅
I CAN'T find anything for a LOKI costume!!! Just need some Horns! I got my shirt @NerdRiot
Wait…so is no one gonna question where the hell Iron mans daughter is?? Or if she will show up again at all? Tony Stark is a big part of the Mcu history do they just leave her and pepper be or just ignoring it since allegedly pepper Potts won’t be showing up anymore…his daughter would be an excellent reason for him to actually wanna come back to help fight…
17:43 yeah I don't get why they're so shook to do that, for years some of us have been saying they should give us R rated Marvel content as well as the family friendly disney side of it! Making disney + was great to begin with but then became a shot in the foot when most of us would just wait for the new movies to drop on there a month after releasing in cinemas 😂 how they expect to keep characters like Blade, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Deadpool, Wolverine etc all PG and stay interesting is beyond me, and stop with the antiheroes and sympathetic villain backstories, just straight up evil and violence needs to be seeded into this just in time for an overall balanced reset with secret wars which will give us ALL of the characters back on the home turf, an age I definitely didnt think we'd get in my lifetime, I'm just excited for the new MCU after secret wars tbh and I hope that if he remains pardon the pun Kang gets some good moments, I enjoy him as a villain in the comics and animated stuff
FNAF movie was fire, and made way more than that, don't know when you filmed this, and yes, fans, since 2014, we're all at least 10 I'd say, I'm 21, followed it since 2014, the movie is insanely good for what it is, but yeah, a couple problems, and honestly a large bit of sequel bait, but FNAF has always got sequel bait since the lore is so complicated 🙃
As for Marvel focus on new characters, make them cool money makers, everyone wins, except for bigots, they can off themselves
It's the writing. They started great and had a good formula all way to Avengers End Game.
They have a wealth of characters and materials, just their execution and quality of writing have been not great.
2:47 save is a bigotry term for marvel right now, they definitely need help and I wouldnt of ever thought I'd have myself saying that, not this soon since Infinity War and Endgame but I think they're somewhere between actively floating and slightly still swimming ahead of most of the competition
Daredevil: knocked to a courtroom show defeats the previous asskicking show that has also to make court on time. Three battles/Intimidating/ Rescues every episode, or hand it up.
Secret Wars: You'll have to trust the Beyonder, nobody has seen either series in the MCU. You could just do a weakened version of Illuminati, the MCU fans haven't seen anything.
Avengers reboot: As long as it's the Normon Osborn team. Let the Thunderbolts hit them as hard as they can, with different teams. Never stop.
All Revised 5th Phase shows: You have Chatgpt and MidJourney anymore, your excuses are sounding stupid. Pay the actors and let's go!
13:25 I genuinely have love and respect for Coy, he speaks what I feel but then backs the BS more than they deserve him to so he's a tough cookie for me😅 yeah it's good to experiment and try new stuff but it isn't just an experimental phase that didn't go well, they thought they had us and we'd accept whatever they threw out from the marvel name alone lol, they set up so much that will probably never come to screen all in favour for pushing Kang on us? I didn't care about the next big bad straight away, Thanos didn't show up until 4 movies in, they should of let it build back up again! I don't think it undermines anything when the movie feels like it came out a decade ago 😂 when something happens and is undone in the very next episode or movie then yeah definitely but here I think they should come back, Brandon is spot on and I've been saying that since Endgame, a AI hologram Tony and a young Steve again, both happened in the comics and I'm sure those who do, all still read about those characters after they come back so its fine, I would of hatedddd if they brought variants in to take their place, that undermines it, bringing them back helps with the closure, it's only right to be there at the beginning as well as the end, like Coy also says , so which one should it be? 😅 Like I said tough cookie
I think we all Love Coy. He should be less shy all the time.
Fans have no attachment to the new characters. There haven't been any new avengers movies since endgame. So there's no reason for people to be invested in the new characters.
1:46 you mean Thomas Curry? Arthur is Aquaman 😅 I know we're supposed to but we can't disrespect the fish man of DC
6:22 100%, and without massive pay differences, I agree with Coy but l also want all the actors to be able to buy a yacht if they wanted and not just RDJ 😅 30 billion is crazy, that's just ONE franchise, and the world wonders why soo much of the suffering that can be solved with money hasn't been yet? Mental, but hey we still get our constant entertainment ey 😅 not saying I don't enjoy all of this and add to that amount because I definitely do but it is insane the amount that goes into this industry
I honestly don't understand this thought process. Feige became who he is today by taking massive risks and getting it all on his passionate singular vison. When he adds his personal touch on each film before release we knew we were in good hands but with the release of D+ his attention is split and things fell by the waist as well as Covid, Majors and woke culture influencing the machine as it grew larger and larger. We knew after endgame there would be a period of time that no matter what, nothing would live up to the event we all experienced together at the culmination. But, we've had only 2 shows of true quality through the D+ release and one awesome film in NWH. Everything else is quantity not the quality we've been use to. I know I can't expect RDJs iron man to stay in the hall of fame forever w out being recast but I hoped I'd be dead by then. its far too soon for any of these actors whom are dead or written out to come back. It cheapens what they accomplished and will tarnish MCUs credibility in the long run. Marvel has access to thousands of characters. No one knew guardians before they were who they are. Hire a passionate director and figure out that chemistry works, and Kevin needs to get back to that rather than what he's been doing. They can be a great people, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for quality projects, they have sent Feige, the one and only. So fix it lol.
Or they could do what they're actually planning to do, which is respect each show runners vision for their own shows instead of just having one person or small group of people meddling and trying and juggle every ball. If the MCU is struggling because Kevin Feige's attention is split, the solution isn't just to streamline things so that only his creative input is valued. The solution is to streamline things AND entrust the MCU to good writers and directors and not meddle too heavily in every project. Yes his okay is still important, but it isn't healthy for any creative universe to be entirely defined or influenced by just one person, that limits its ability to grow past a particular point because one person can only pay attention to so many things.
I totally get what you mean. Heres the thing, Kevin knows the broad strokes and says to each creative ln each new project to go nuts with their individual story so long as it doesn't interfere with those major plot points. Now Kevin cant explain to each new creative team what his macro vision is for fear of it getting leaked. Marvel has gone through an absurd amount of writers and directors on projects bc of creative differences. Which makes no sense bc they Def talk about the script, cast and story for him to sign off. I think with out his day to day making sure, idk what it is but the execution has gone badly for projects like Dare Devil. Somethings been going wrong as of late we love these characters and they should focus on character where Kevin's "toiling away at the epilogue" of each phase and making sure they align cleverly. Thats exactly how he was doing it when it was successful. However now there's other influences that are affecting projects. He needs an extension of himself but its collaborative bc Kevin's the one that has to also explain why projects lost money and when Execs try to meddle he can protect the artists vision as well as the business. His job isn't easy and he is who he is for a reason. @@Lisa_Flowers
Let’s not forget what happened to Jeremy Renner….will he even be back? He’s lucky to be alive.
Why has brother Coy shaved off his goatee ? It's like Oliver Queen shaving off his defining look
Bring back Mandatory Fun
Legally they can't.
But why?@@notmephisto1375
Coy is cape-ing hard in this video
Am i the only one who has now been bothered by commercials during every damn video today?
all it takes is a dude named Coy starting out video by crying "click bait!" on an obviously well reported piece from a well respected reporter wherein there are new details about Majors that have not been made public whilst on a panel with two other dudes to realize that one never has to click on another one of these videos ever again. well done.
He was always gonna come back, some time just had to pass and go on to other stories (and so the actor hisself can have a break) there will be a WAY bigger threat coming (especially if it includes who he made the sacrifice for (Peter/Mrs.Potts etc) all this talk bout it’s gonna ruin his legacy…the man died for some stones being used as paper weights! I’d come back from the dead mad af 😂 If he found out he died just for them to die anyway from an incursion or something I’m SURE he would wanna team up and help prevent that
I don’t agree.. bring em back! They’ve shown they don’t know how to use or incorporate the newer characters. Give these vanilla ass story makers characters they know until u can get another Kevin feige type
Superior Iron man play by rdj
It’s pathetic they’re already considering reviving iron man/black window. It hasn’t even been 5 years lmfao
I mean… the endgame is Secret Wars. Of course they’re gonna bring back these characters. Not necessarily the ones that died, but VARIANTS of them. The fact that the multiverse and variants are now concepts they’ve established and run with, it’s really only a matter of time til they bring back versions of dead characters. Hell, they’ve been doing it with Loki and Gamora. With Secret Wars, the opportunity is to not only bring back versions of past characters within the MCU, but also past versions of Marvel characters outside the MCU. The multiverse has more than set up these possibilities.
Yeah bring back thanos
No, they need to learn to write good stories again
Can only go backwards and rely on nostalgia for so long
LOL you know MCU is desperate and in deep trouble when they’re thinking of bringing back to the OGs. MCU died in Endgame.
Why not kamala kat?
Kids go trick or treating as Spider-Man because their parents dress them as such lol it has nothing to do with whether those characters are good or not. Nostalgia is a hoe
Nice
Fluff piece or not, MCU is in a terrible state. They need less movies and tv shows. MCU releases used to be events. Now I just rolled my eyes when I see a new release. Also, no more multiverse. It is overstuffed, complicated and convoluted.
I'm a pretty hardcore leftist, but even I cringe at the constant "let's just gender swap everyone" thing.
I gotta be honest, if marvel does this idiocy and revives these dead avengers, I’m out. Panicking and caving to the chuds is pathetic and I don’t have time or energy to support that nonsense
Whys everyone suddenly on board with replacing Johnathan majors, have you learned nothing from amber heard lol
I'm so glad this question is getting brought up, it's been asked for a whileee now and not just about Stark, but Cap also, let's not forget, they're legacy characters for this entireeee thing, people still talk about them years later, even Loki season 2 cant help but remind you of Stark! I do think we need them both back at some point before the (hopefully) really big and great reset, and then recast the characters! The MCU needs A Tony Stark, A Steve Rogers, A Natasha Romanov, sadly A T'Challa, I get characters have to die but they and the Avengers team in general have left too much of a mark on the current MCU, having no Avengers team up movie since Endgame wasn't a smart choice imo, it would of helped move this phase along a little while holding it all together
Come one, out of all people, i expected you guys to not talk about this b.s. thats clearly false.what are we doing here
Panderverse lost!
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Variety hates either Marvel or Disney. Actually, I think it is the women who have been covering the Jonathan Majors stuff. They have been covering the story as if he is guilty no matter what. They have ignored the video evidence that his ex wasn't injured until after she went to the club. She lied. They also ignored the story about her being arrested for attacking Jonathan last year.
I personally thought Robert Downy Jr. was coming back until I watched Hawkeye and realized they were rebooting. Iron Man was my favorite character and I'm not a fan of Riri but I have come to terms with a new Avengers and a young Avengers and X-Men and Fantastic 4. Things change.
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Lost me at the sports talk
Brandon has my favourite intro it's funny because we all care right guys 🤔
Okay yes we need to focus on the newer characters, but for the LOVE OF GOD STOP BEING SO NONCHALANT ABOUT HOW DOG 💩 THE LAST 3 years have been. It’s channels like this that make Disney think it’s okay to keep pushing out the trash they have been. Idk if it’s because someone on this panel has a contract or something signed but it’s hard to listen to you guys beat around the bush about how terrible the path MCU is taking
Like number 667... sorry guys
I was the 70th like - sorry bout the 69
THANKS for this!!!! As @sodokami6347 says below, it's the writing, stupid!!!!
Marvel is dead in the water
O7's for the marvel brand,lord of rings,transformers,dc brand,Ghostbusters,harry potter,gi joe,star wars and star trek! we are all fucked and a real-life zombie apocalypse should happen immediately!!
Super salute Coy for actually speaking truth on that Variety article 🫡