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45:55 thought the same after endgame. You don't need big stakes, in fact, it can feel juvenile if there's always a 'save the world' level threat and stakes. Smaller stakes give opportunities for more character studies in these projects too, both solo or teams up imo.
@@BaithNa maybe he starts as the third personality that is just where is told and then the others just stay to help... Actually it would be an interesting plot devise a surprise change of personality in costume like start bad, then good to bond then bad for drama then good to epic save/sucrifice?
all i need is a hawkeye season 2 where kingpin sends someone after Kate Bishop after their fight...maybe someone like Bullseye...and we already know Kate is going to look deeper into kingpin after getting away
12:10 streaming definitely hurts movies, but I think part of the reason people are more willing to wait for streaming is because of how expensive movie tickets/ the theater experience have gotten. If I could still go pay $8-10 for a ticket to a prime-time showing and then $7-10 on snacks and walk out of the theater only spending $15-20 for that experience, I would be much more inclined to go to the theater. But when the ticket itself is almost $20 and you’re gonna end up spending $30-40 if you want snacks, then I’m more inclined to wait and stream it.
"We never really got attached to the Matthew Vaughn X-Men" They had nearly double the movies as the Brian Singer X-Men but we never got attached to them because the movies were bad and written around actors instead of characters.
Love ya Coy, always appreciate the excited and honest takes Gotta tell ya tho, around 11:20 you said a term that the latin-american community finds deeply annoying and which diminishes spanish and portuguese speakers. If you wanna use the episcene/gender neutral form, just say "latin-american". People around here would at best be confused by "latinx" and ocasionally get angry at english speakers trying to "fix" how our nouns are gendered.
47:11 I normally agree with Coy, like 11 times out of 10 I’ve heard someone else start pitching something on this show and then I’m like but xyz and then Coy says it almost verbatim; this is not one of those instances, although I would still echo what he said because he isn’t wrong, but he’s wrong in that they would do exactly that because it’s Spider-Man. Spider-Man we all know, all of the Spiders, truly, have a tragic backstory; strike one for having a rough entrance into a new medium (cartoon to live action, I’m assuming we’re talking MM from Spiderverse); then we have Spiderverse, and that’s self explanatory enough in conjunction with Secret Wars/multiple universes. Third: We. Need. (Live action) Miles. Absolutely love Tom but we gotta keep it fresh and the less he shows up, the more he can do other work and the better the reward will be when Peter does show back up.
Basically, ‘disrespecting’ Miles by ‘throwing’ him into Avengers 5 or 6 could really pay off in my opinion but it truly would be a huge gamble. Like, if it doesn’t pay off for the story and you’re just routing him there for the attention, it’s essentially the same thing as Dazzler being Taylor Swift in Deadpool 3 and that’ll make you 3 million dollars but it won’t make it a great story.
Speaking as someone who watched all of the X-Men movies for the first time in 2020, I don't feel at all more connected to Marsden, Berry, or Grammer than the younger cast
Spotlight saga? How is a branding initiative a saga? And didn't they say that the spotlight stuff was supposed to be unconnected to everything else, including other spotlight features?
Yes a Spider-Man 4 street level w Black Cat and Daredevil the Spider-Man 5 Firestar and Iceman college years then move into Avengers secret wars. Toby for Kang war and Andrew for Venom “Sony world” with Miles Morales.
Morph (as mentioned in this episode id love how he'dmake him relatable finally), Cypher, Amadeus/Brawn, or Marvel Boy (older variant) I wanna see agents of Atlas personally
Coy is way off on whether promo would have helped as much. Five hundred million people speak spanish natively worldwide. Around another ~70 million speak it fluently. In 2022, it was estimated that approximately 650 million people lived in Latin America and the Caribbean. Brazil is the most populated country in the region, with an estimated 215 million inhabitants in that year, followed by Mexico with more than 128 million. Promo would have saved Blue Beetle. While streaming is the killer, promo would have changed how it played out.
No amount of promotion would have saved any of the movies that flopped during the strikes. They may have seen a 10-20% boost but that wouldn't have been enough to make any of the strike flops profitable.
Why do people care about who bouhht Avengers tower? The Avengers haven't operated out of there since Age of Ultron. Its been more than a decade in both the MCU and real life since the Avengers were in Avengers tower.
They were never planning on having multiple timelines because no normies would be able to keep up with it and it diminishes the value of things in non MCU timelines.
Never say latinx. That's not our culture and we do not appreciate being called that. It's latino or latina. Respect our culture and language. It's LATINO or LATINA. And latino is the plural form when talking about multiple people or the group. Do. Not. Say. Latinx in serious context
As a boomer who's 31 not a fan of the preview to a show I'm gona watch, but understand the industry reason why. Just hate yall have to to keep up with the Algorithm, same for the trailer before the trailer trend
"We have to stick the landing with Avengers" Lies, those Netflix shows came out years after the Avengers movie and even after Age of Ultron. He's just saying that ita canon now because he wants people to wat h Echo. Spoilers: they won't.
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I totally agree with Jay on Blue Beetle. The strike hurt it for sure.
I love how Brad said, “you kinda hit nail; I can’t say too much”, then basically said yes lol 🤦🏾♂️
This is the new A squad guys for the breakroom. I’m digging it. Great conversations.
Without Hector, I curse you and your JV squad. Not that these 3 mofos aren't great, but you're not the Beatles without a 4th
Aww they made Coy the same height as Jay in the thumbnail 😂
Man Coy, Jay, & Evan my favorite panels. The amount of sweatiness makes me feel like I’m an expert 😂. Love this community
45:55 thought the same after endgame. You don't need big stakes, in fact, it can feel juvenile if there's always a 'save the world' level threat and stakes. Smaller stakes give opportunities for more character studies in these projects too, both solo or teams up imo.
we gotta have a panel with hector in between jay and john
It happened at least once already, go back about a month to the episode where they talk about Agatha House of Harkness!
Preach
Hector is the worst
I’d say Jay as moderator, Coy, Hector and Erik with John in the control panel. That’d be an interesting lineup 🙌🏼🎉🥳
Already happened
Honestly give me a Kingpin: Devil's Reign spotlight series on Disney+ with characters like Moon Knight, Daredevil, Purple Man, Kate Bishop and Yelena
That would be epic af
Moon Knight isn't in New York in the MCU. He's only lived in the UK and Chicago.
@@BaithNa maybe he starts as the third personality that is just where is told and then the others just stay to help...
Actually it would be an interesting plot devise a surprise change of personality in costume like start bad, then good to bond then bad for drama then good to epic save/sucrifice?
0:53 Ironically enough, I had some really long gas at this point and almost died laughing by their hand motions 😂🤣😂🤣
all i need is a hawkeye season 2 where kingpin sends someone after Kate Bishop after their fight...maybe someone like Bullseye...and we already know Kate is going to look deeper into kingpin after getting away
12:10 streaming definitely hurts movies, but I think part of the reason people are more willing to wait for streaming is because of how expensive movie tickets/ the theater experience have gotten. If I could still go pay $8-10 for a ticket to a prime-time showing and then $7-10 on snacks and walk out of the theater only spending $15-20 for that experience, I would be much more inclined to go to the theater. But when the ticket itself is almost $20 and you’re gonna end up spending $30-40 if you want snacks, then I’m more inclined to wait and stream it.
Imagine these three in the same order in the back seat of a car. I don’t think we’d see Coy 😂
"We never really got attached to the Matthew Vaughn X-Men"
They had nearly double the movies as the Brian Singer X-Men but we never got attached to them because the movies were bad and written around actors instead of characters.
It’s okay coy. It was just a little joke. Just know you always have someone to look up to. No need to get short with them.
Good on Coy for not immediately hitting him with a fat joke after the wide shot joke. 🤣🤣🤣
Somebody found all his Lucky Charms 😂 meanwhile it looks like he lifts pots o gold all day
THANKS for this, BreakRoom!!!!
Best line up please keep all 3 every episode
Blue beetle is a movie that should’ve came out once I had everything reset
Thank you Coy!
Never stop doing this show I fucking love it!
Jay is right
John’s f-bomb laughing my F$&KING ass OWF!
Oh Stephen Yeun would be a great Cyclops
Nobody told Jay that Freshmen year was retitled and is now disconnected from the MCU
the boys are back in town
Commenting because I enjoy Coy.
We need Jay to breakdown Wrelstmaina this year
Marvel can't stop killing their villains off and DC can't stop using the same villain's over again
After as awesome as the Spiderverse has been I want live action Miles Morales and Gwen Stacey doing something somewhere.
I’m 31 years old. I still go to the movies!! AMC’s specifically!! Not just Marvel movies but other films like Oppenheimer too for example.
The spiderman talk made me think that id love a spiderman - daredevil fight in the new show
Mitch McConnell virus has got john bad 😂
Awesome chemistry!
33:13 YES!!!! Thank you!! Stop asking actors in depth questions about their characters. They didn’t write it!
Seen my boy Jay in issa Rae’s RapSh*t keep it up 🔥
I am diggin the mug. That’s cool
Love ya Coy, always appreciate the excited and honest takes
Gotta tell ya tho, around 11:20 you said a term that the latin-american community finds deeply annoying and which diminishes spanish and portuguese speakers. If you wanna use the episcene/gender neutral form, just say "latin-american". People around here would at best be confused by "latinx" and ocasionally get angry at english speakers trying to "fix" how our nouns are gendered.
Do you think they are going show the snap and during the blip?
47:11
I normally agree with Coy, like 11 times out of 10 I’ve heard someone else start pitching something on this show and then I’m like but xyz and then Coy says it almost verbatim; this is not one of those instances, although I would still echo what he said because he isn’t wrong, but he’s wrong in that they would do exactly that because it’s Spider-Man.
Spider-Man we all know, all of the Spiders, truly, have a tragic backstory; strike one for having a rough entrance into a new medium (cartoon to live action, I’m assuming we’re talking MM from Spiderverse); then we have Spiderverse, and that’s self explanatory enough in conjunction with Secret Wars/multiple universes.
Third: We. Need. (Live action) Miles. Absolutely love Tom but we gotta keep it fresh and the less he shows up, the more he can do other work and the better the reward will be when Peter does show back up.
Basically, ‘disrespecting’ Miles by ‘throwing’ him into Avengers 5 or 6 could really pay off in my opinion but it truly would be a huge gamble.
Like, if it doesn’t pay off for the story and you’re just routing him there for the attention, it’s essentially the same thing as Dazzler being Taylor Swift in Deadpool 3 and that’ll make you 3 million dollars but it won’t make it a great story.
It is far off from now but I bet we end up getting a Fall of X time period in the MCU.
I feel like House and Powers of X will be what they pivot into after Secret Wars
If they ever did Hox and PoX, it would be bigger than Endgame
Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤
Loves blue beetle and I’m mostly a marvel guy … saw it on stream tho😅. I’d for sure watch a blue beetle 2. Maybe it’s just cause I’m Latino too
I NEED THAT LOKI MOUSE PAD
DCU needs to go ALL IN on Blue Beetle. Period. That and Peacemaker show And the newer Suicide Squad are the best angle they can continue down ATM.
Lol what? 😂
No, they need to do what Gunn said, establish their diamond characters and then use them to uplift the lesser known ones.
Speaking as someone who watched all of the X-Men movies for the first time in 2020, I don't feel at all more connected to Marsden, Berry, or Grammer than the younger cast
Coy between them is perfect 😂🎉❤
I would LOVE to get New Rockstars content in podcast form. Thanks for all the amazing content lately 🙌🙌🙌
I think John should maybe consider passing on the edibles on his show days.😉
If he does I'll stop watching. Maybe.
THANKS for this!!!!
Great job Jay, don’t let John “catch” you
Tarantino-style Spider-Man 4 sounds amazing
We don't deserve John Costa, such a treasure 😂 "I GAVE A STRAIGHT FUCKING ANSWER" 😂
You mean King John
John sucks
Spotlight saga?
How is a branding initiative a saga? And didn't they say that the spotlight stuff was supposed to be unconnected to everything else, including other spotlight features?
Yes a Spider-Man 4 street level w Black Cat and Daredevil the Spider-Man 5 Firestar and Iceman college years then move into Avengers secret wars. Toby for Kang war and Andrew for Venom “Sony world” with Miles Morales.
John, how can you be the Villain of anything, when you are the Hero of Our Hearts? Do not let the Governor of Chicago bully you like that....
All you need Is Winston A.Marshall for a 3 man crew
Who else is a Marvel character that is similar to Invincible besides Spider-Man. Steven Yeun would be cool as that character.
Morph (as mentioned in this episode id love how he'dmake him relatable finally), Cypher, Amadeus/Brawn, or Marvel Boy (older variant)
I wanna see agents of Atlas personally
Wonder woman cameo in every movie...
And he's bald like thanos too 😂
The Netflix universe SHOULD be seperate from, but similar enough to the Sacred Timeline that the major elements are the same.
Coy is way off on whether promo would have helped as much. Five hundred million people speak spanish natively worldwide. Around another ~70 million speak it fluently. In 2022, it was estimated that approximately 650 million people lived in Latin America and the Caribbean. Brazil is the most populated country in the region, with an estimated 215 million inhabitants in that year, followed by Mexico with more than 128 million.
Promo would have saved Blue Beetle. While streaming is the killer, promo would have changed how it played out.
i know yall got blasted before this
Steven Yeun should play Owen Reece The Molecule Man
He would Kill It as the Molecule Man. Maybe Larry David for Dr. Doom
Coy n Jay could prolly save the earth tg
No amount of promotion would have saved any of the movies that flopped during the strikes. They may have seen a 10-20% boost but that wouldn't have been enough to make any of the strike flops profitable.
Why do people care about who bouhht Avengers tower? The Avengers haven't operated out of there since Age of Ultron. Its been more than a decade in both the MCU and real life since the Avengers were in Avengers tower.
Dude steven yuen is an x men in my eyes. Cyclops, nightcrawler
Algorithm food!
They were never planning on having multiple timelines because no normies would be able to keep up with it and it diminishes the value of things in non MCU timelines.
Never say latinx. That's not our culture and we do not appreciate being called that. It's latino or latina. Respect our culture and language. It's LATINO or LATINA. And latino is the plural form when talking about multiple people or the group. Do. Not. Say. Latinx in serious context
I've heard latin is more preferred over latinx. As an outsider latinx is very zoomer coded imo, I don't see it being a thing long term.
@@nailinthefashionnot even zoomer, it's a boomer term that was created by white people that don't want to be labeled as anything negative.
Ummm idk boys
I can't wait for Joker 2 to come out so we don't have to hear you guys butcher the French words anymore
John you need to stop 🤣
Man I don’t think I can handle anymore Jay Washington.
Dear Jay please never say latinx again 🙏 latin is enough
He's been spending too much time around affluent white people
Gross... both Temu and "Latinx?" Please do better. That's a slur.
As a boomer who's 31 not a fan of the preview to a show I'm gona watch, but understand the industry reason why. Just hate yall have to to keep up with the Algorithm, same for the trailer before the trailer trend
TEMU GUYS???? EWE Do better
"We have to stick the landing with Avengers"
Lies, those Netflix shows came out years after the Avengers movie and even after Age of Ultron. He's just saying that ita canon now because he wants people to wat h Echo. Spoilers: they won't.
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Love blue Beatle lost film not badly film better dark world and black panther 2 boring
Alexander gets sentry
I love jay but when he gets excited his voice gets so high and loud and I have absolutely no idea what he’s saying 🙃
Blah blah blah
LMAO. I swear John has really flourished over the past few seasons. 🫡🤙🏾💜