How Arsenal REPLACE Martin Ødegaard.
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Even as a Tottenham fan, I like listening to him cause it's tough to find balanced football fans who have a genuinely good argument on the internet. Keep up the good work man👍👍👍
As a swedish guy following Alexander Isak since he was 16 years old I can GUARANTEE all Gunners he would be a changemaker for us. The closest We get to Thierry for sure
2025 brother, he will come
No thanks.
I'm not convinced on his box presence, p much all his goals come in transition when he has space
@@-VForValhalla- name a better option
Exactly I really really think he will do that no.14 jersey justice
Nwaneri, it's your time to SHINEEEEE
You structure your arguments really well. These ideas do make sense.
Wow, earliest I’ve been to a video! I can’t keep up with arsenal outside of match days as much anymore with my schedule, but watching your videos always provide some pretty good insight on the state of the club!
Just wanted to say I appreciate you and your channel. Your analysis and insight into our situation brought a lot of calmness and clarity. I hope we can make it out of with some good results.
I love the idea of martinelli up top, or him and trossard switching throughout the game (Havertz in odegaards position. Gabi deserves a chance in a different position, especially at a time when there is an especially weak left sided midfielder to support him and likely timber or calafiori will start and play more defensively because rice is out.
We have tried Martinelli up top before. It didn't/doesn't work.
@@trentmadagua215 a few games if not enough lol
That would make them both worse. We all know how bad havertz was at 8 and why would you place a mindless dribbler in the centre?
Calafiori is also maybe injured
Zincheko in midfield is a good shout.
i’ve been saying this too!
@@peytonwhitener5493 I'd personally go with Kai Partey Zincheko. I don't see Partey and Jorginho starting together bcuz it doesn't make sense. Cala won't feature so Timber will play LB
True. But I think Rice's absence throws a spanner in the works. It's no longer just replacing Ødegaard, but having the right balance. (Legs, physicality, second balls, recoveries, carries)
@@totsh2056 Yah. Let's see how it goes
@@totsh2056 Yea if Rice was there I think Zinchenko would make sense. Without Rice yea our midfield would be weak starting Zinny
It’s d honesty, thinking outside d box and dat lil splash of a very dry kinda humor, dat keeps me coming back for more lol keep up d great work man ! ✊🏽
Beautiful analysis TDK love you Sheroy keep it up
Good insight, and I agree with alot of the ideas. Plus I don't think it's a bad thing to endure some adversity early in the campaign.
1:44 “Go with what you know , increase the controllables , lean out of the chaos of a football mach”
And here’s me smoking a pack of that Saka right 8 stuff 😅
Edit: Omg 😱 you had my idea 😂
You make me feel better about a dire situation, but in all honesty, we are in trouble. Take two of the best midfielders in the world out any team and it's a problem. For all Spurs' flaws, they are a very quick, explosive team, and without Martin leading the press, we might be in trouble at their gaff. I personally think Arteta will go a different way, ignoring the press, sitting deep, and trying to exploit Spurs' high line. IMO, that's the only way we get a result as our team is very well drilled defending as a unit. I wouldn't hold out hope of getting a result though, unfortunately.
What's Kieron got to do with anything?
@@Ed-et5zu Haha good spot, fixed 👍
;)
Big Gabi to the rescue 😂
Was prefering a midfield of zinchenko, Jorginho amd Partey. Great control on the ball, can stitch through passes and defend spaces
4-4-2 makes the most sense on Sunday. They play high line so we definitely have to find a way to start Martinelli Sterling snd Saka .
Havertz Sterling front 2 false 9s would cook IMO
I also agree with this. With the midfield being Jorginho Partey. Those 2 will cook with the runs sterling will make
I would love to see Jesus in the odegard spot. Can lead the press and drop deep and link up play. Also could be an X factor if he can find space.
I would do martinelli sterling saka and havertz doing the odegaard role, partey and jorgi. Trossard to come off the bench
My suggested line up 4-3-3
Martinelli havertz sterling
Jorginho partey saka
Timber gabbi saliba white
Raya
Going for 442, jorg n partey as pivot. Tros, Hav, Ster, saka up front
Sounds like you want a 4-2-4 formation
@@chiefnkosi7705 its the same thing
@@sigfigronath no, it's not
@@chiefnkosi7705 whats the difference ?
@@chiefnkosi7705It’s not, but in different zones of the pitch, the team sits in completely different formations. We saw today against spurs that in defense we sat in a 442 but in attack we were in more of a 424. The formation isn’t static within different phases of the game.
LB - Calafiori
Left mid - Timber
Odegaards role - Havertz
Jesus or Martinelli up front
I wondered about Saka centrally interchanging with Sterling
1:50 ... yes... yes it is
I love this analysis ❤
Strong analysis. Just disagree with the last bit I.e. nobody else is. I’d argue city have done it. The way you have very high quality bench players is by constantly rotating them so the players left on the bench are different. This is the next phase that arsenal would need to reach to a) get through challenging injury phases b) keep the team fresh in the business end with the schedule requirements.
True, they do have better depth, but the like-for-like replacement thing is a myth. They adjust their shape accordingly. If Ødegaard's absence wasn't exacerbated by Rice and Merino, we'd be more confident about dealing with it, as we did last season the few times he was unavailable.
Would love to see Saka on the inside.
Mikel doesn’t need to do anything particularly creative or brave. Pull Havertz back and use Trossard as a false 9. Pick up 3 points. Job done.
You called it
I can see Timber being the key man tomorrow. I think he'll play in midfield with Zinchenko at LB. I think they'll alternate between LB and CM, and this will bamboozle Spurs. It could bamboozle us also, but I think Timber steps up and delivers.
Personally put Ethan on for martin
Arteta should look to getting Wirtz and or Xavi Simons. They should’ve bid for the latter at least after the Euros.
I like it!
Not like but LOVE it!
Nwaneri to come on in the second half and to score the winner 🤷🏽♂️
Let bro cook
Raya
White-Saliba-Gabi-Timber
Partey-Jorginho
Nwaneri
Saka-Havertz-LW
Anyone in LW
I would really like to see Nwaneri start but Mikel will never do it
Our midfielders seem to always score against Spurs.
Ngl even before martin’s injury, something about this season just doesnt feel like it’ll be our year
3:10 if we don't win on field tilt we might as well not even bother showing up, who cares
😂
Imagine Arteta surprises us and start Nwaneri
I watch too much Arsenal stuff on YT. Believe me this guy is THE BEST. Sub. Like. Share. 😂
first one here! great job TDK
I'm still with Zinchenko-Partey-Nwaneri midfield.
and attack Sterling/Martinelli-Havertz-Saka
Interesting stuff. I love your sense of humor though...
jorginho in we need a leader in midfield
is a pity that having a difficult fixtures and gundogan returning to city did not push us to go and replace the players we sold, going into a very long season with out a second 10and 8 is crazy, this is the club gaslighting us that we will challenge, if the board and the owners will not support arteta and give him the players he needs, is another wild goose chase
It's not about replacing it's about getting a back up, learn the difference. KDB is 33 going on 34 & currently on his last year of his contract (he'll probably extend for max 2 years) but City are looking at Wirtz & Musiala as replacements. On the other hand City also have Foden, Bernardo Silva & now McAtee & Gundogan as backups / to play along side him. If you don't understand the importance of a squad then you'll never win a title again.
Mate get yourself onto AFTV's starting 11 show.
Agree we might see Timber midfield
2:57 - Id' say mentioning a player who is unavailable as a flaw in that team.. Unless Calafiori is suddenly fit now..?
Folks putting so much pressure on Nwaneri...don't expect too much, let him thrive.
Have a feeling it might be the usual back 5 (Timber LB), Partey deep, Havertz left mid, Saka in the Odegaard role, Sterling right, Jesus up front and Martinelli left. Trossards been great but I have a feeling Arteta will want a lot of pace to support Partey and Havertz there
Calafiori is injured!
I’m fully prepared for an Arsenal downturn this season :3 Lucky with injuries last year, I can’t see it happening again >.
I can 100% guareentee Zinchenko will start. Especially when our midfield is weak
12:38 leaving saka alone is a joke no team is that dumb
We are føgged
I døn't accept these fØggin ESTANDARDS guys
I think Trossard could also be great in Odegard's role. He uses both his feet and doesn't lose the ball. Eye for a pass and scoring when needed. Give him a start is my call. Jesus could also be back...master of chaos. Let's not forget we now have Sterling who has played LW, SS, AM, RW and Striker. We have enough cover.
Only thing about Trossard in the midfield I don’t like is his defensive work rate. Odegaard does a lot for our defensive shape and I don’t think Trossard would give the same. Going forward I agree, Trossard would likely ball out like Odegaard does.
@@Travissaur I agree with you.
Tross isn't strong/big enough to lead that press effectively.
@@mattvarner5825 When Odegard was out last season for 4 games, who did we start? I really can't remember but I do feel we are better equipped this time round. Deffo not a like for like replacement and with Decs out its going to be a nervy NLD.
A suspiciously accurate Ange impression... is there something you aren't telling us?
Fogging hell.
No one is asking for two odegaards - we are asking for another cam at a functional level. Either that or we use a formation where we don’t have a cam.
Having someone in the squad who can play either 8 seems the obvious solution to that depth issue
Havertz in odegaard role, Sterling up top.
It wouldn’t be as bad if it wasn’t for our schedule being absolutely front loaded
Wait, wait, wait... did bro just say "not have all the field tilt" ffs?! 🧐😤
I think the best balanced team would be; Raya, timber, Gabi, Saliba, Ben, Partey, Zini, Kai, Martinelli, Trosard/jesus and Saka
You got 12 here mate
@@Benito20242 I could not choose between Trosard and Jesus
"This" is not annoying, ARTETA is. He leaves the squad thin every season and when he doesn't, be sidelines, loans or sells his specialist players. Simply put, Arteta loaned out our only specialist leftback last season and teams attached on the left side. The season before, he sidelined the same leftback and lost the league then too. He didn't learn. Instead, he doubled-down. This season, he sold the team's only other No.10 - Emile Smith-Rowe Rowe, who may be better at that role than Odegaard. Arteta also sold the team's only striker - Nketiah. However, before selling him, he sidelined him. Our 5th place finish and then two consecutive 2nd place finishes are all because of Arteta 's prejudices and stubbornness.
Since Dr. O'Driscoll left Arsenal and joined Man-U, we have less injuries and Man-U has more...! The majority of Arsenal injuries happened during International breaks.
Put jt in midfield and calafuri left back
What we ask the left 8 to do out of possession took Rice months to learn. Timber is not going to pick it up in 2 weeks and play effectively enough for it to work.
Every club has their best players, but I don't think we as fans shouldn't be so hung up on a specific combination of players.
raya / timber gabriel saliba white / zini partey jorginho / saka trossard havertz
There has never been a football match. Where there has been so much speculation about a starting 11.
Partey and Saka as a central midfield pair out of possession?! Are you having a laugh, Alex? That's poor from you. From the available senior midfielders we have, it can ONLY be Havertz or Jorginho partnering Partey. Lewis-Skelly or Salah are alternative options from the Academy, but unlikely given the magnitude of the fixture.
Fans have been talking up Nwaneri all week but If it were up to me, I'd have Lewis-Skelly come in for Rice, Havertz in where Odegaard plays (he's just had two consecutive international games playing this role so has the momentum), and then G. Jesus as the CF. This way, we maintain our off the ball press from the front and also have CREDIBLE central midfield profiles playing in central midfield.
I want nwaneri should get his chance and it's just the risk I think we need, if not why promote him to the first team if he isn't ready for games like this
No-one's asking for an Odegaard clone (that would be silly), just a ball dominant 8 good enough to rotate in an out of the team. You can't tell me a Baumgartner, for instance, wouldn't be happy to play in the 8 positions for Arsenal. If you don't think we can do that then maybe lower your expectations around winning keagues and CLs
I have to disagree with the idea that having world class players in our squad means giving up on ever getting adequate backups when faced with injury. Call me crazy or revisionist but a certain fabian ruiz was available on loan with an option to buy whos able to cover 6, 8 and 10 at a higher standard than our current backup options in Jorghino and whoevers playing the 10 this sunday. I get that people say merinos injury was unpredictable but imo 2 midfielders were always needed in the summer let alone the front line bolstering we never really got. For me it comes down to mismanagement of funds, especially if u go with the arguments that arsenal are "cash strapped" or apprehensive of breeching psr restrictions that seem to be so popular amongst our fan base when defending our subpar summer window. The continued outlay on new gks year on year on top of countless underwhelming signings in terms of profile like viera (physically incabale of imposing himself in the prem), kiwior (lacking regularity at cb forcing us to play him lb where not technically sound enough to invert), havertz (bought as a big money left 8 and was completely out of his depth forcing us to play him up front where perfomances have indeed improved but still dont justify £65 outlay and top earner status when compared to other summer target kudus who cost half as mcuh) or even jorginho (lack of mobility/off ball "duel" winning) means that we always end up buying twice and take twice as long to fix clear holes in our squad.
Let me state this clearly,
“Arsenal can do without odegaard”
Yes, He is our captain and leader, he leads the press and brings momentum to the team
But let’s be real, football is a game of 11 players
take one out and the quality is just fine. we have elite players who will do the job to a great level of intensity
We will survive without him
The real question is
Can arteta trust the academy players in big games?
To be honest enough am an arsenal fan but arteta frustastes me a lot we didn't make a signing this summer calafiori was signed to a position that was filled and
If we get over this game I would like youngsters being given a chance whats the reason for including them in the squad when they can't get minutes
the biggest reason why I didn't wanna see vieira leave, imo he's our best alternative in the odegaard role, maybe with havertz comparable, but not having havertz as our striker feels like a massive downgrade
He’s too inconsistent and only turns up against the smaller teams. He started off strong in the beginning but surely arteta has his reasons he didn’t give him much mins
funny how everyone forgot Zinchenko can play 10, i bet Mikel didnt forget tho
Great insight. But disagree with ur take on Smith Rowe. While he was with us he was only limited by injuries n the form n consistency of Odegaard. This is a situation where Odegaard is not n won't be available n we have sold Smith Rowe for "pure profit". Emile world have been very very ideal for shituations like this. But we've done what we've done n we're now where we are. If fans r losing their heads now then pray for Saliba, Havertz n Saka.
Man City hearings begin next week. I have a feeling that City will have points deducted, but Arsenal will still
miss out on title to either Liverpool. Spurs or Villa. My reasoning; So far this season our form has been poor compared to last season. Our pressing has been way off in comparison to most of the rest of the Premier League, we are wasteful in front of goal, and there have been numerous defensive mistakes. If they had had their shooting boots on, Villa could have beaten us, due to defensive errors, Brighton scored due to a defensive error. Declan Rice and Odergarrd have both been well below the standards they set last season. Now we have a really tough set of games to come, and injuries to key players including new signings, and Rice is suspended. Without a lot of extremely good luck, we could soon be several points down on our chief competitors for the title. Just saying.
No points will be deducted from City. They have a building full of lawyers to beat these charges. Sitting and hoping the system fixes the issue for us, or that Pep leaves (or dies) is absolutely bonkers. We need to build our own monster team to beat them on the field.
If we don't try we'll never know.
You like maybe..😂
Kieran Gibbs was absolute rubbish.
Nice stain
Isaak cant be trusted to stay fit for 5 weeks continuously
Arteta didn’t rule him out…
He is keeping ange guessing
We had esr. Arteta is an asshole. And he hasnt given Nwaneri enough minutes to start him.
Naah Saka at Cm nearly made me unsubscribe. (I didnt tho)
Welcome back to 3 months in, crisis begins. Lol.
guaranteed Nwaneri will get no minutes in the period odegaard is out
and Arteta and lots of other people would argue why that's so, very convincingly
@@theofeiner6240because arteta with all his his tactics greatness isn’t really that good at managing players individually, especially youth prospects
And, outside of maybe the Bolton game, he shouldn't. He's 17 yrs old.
And nor should he,he may well be up to it but we’re up against the big boys for the next month and being overwhelmed in those games could damage his development.
Bolton LC 🤣
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Bruh this is hilarious!!! Am watching this in Uganda, it's 7:30pm. I wish you guys would see my view. Am literally on the side of a mountain...and this has made Martin out of the team funnier....manz timed the first comment.😂😂😂 this is why I am a gonner!!! That plus Wenger's crazy longterm team selection creating the most multicultural squad....get every post 1999 born player all wearing a 2004 O2 jersey....all hail Arsene!!!
It's SO SIMPLE. Arteta needs to have a team meeting in which they discuss international play. If they want to beat the bionic Mancunian robots team they need to put their international play on the backburner this year until 2026, until the national teams start ramping up for the world cup in the beginning of 2026. Not asking them to quit or anything extreme, just stop playing the full 90 in two matches from an international weekend - which would result in him playing 90 min 5 times in 16 days. No problem, though. He won't have to play all those hundreds of minutes since he's already fucking hurt.
no other 10 option? u absolute melt
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If Arsene was given this squad, he would have won at least 2 trophies in the last 5 years..
This video is full of cope.
Guys the only thing we can do is just pray to God for a miracle
First comment 🫡🔥
All I hear is Odegaard is amazing off the ball… and average on the ball.
Amazing at both
@@morgan3714 What’s amazing?
@@KnightHQ off and on the ball
@@morgan3714 In other words, you can’t explain why
@@KnightHQ oh are YOU saying that he’s average on the ball?
Blud Ethan fits in that pocket well instead of Saka and Saka instead of Sterling