The lack of the Win7 boot screen isn't because it's starter, it's because the fancy Win7 boot animation requires a screen resolution of 1024x768 or higher and that netbook have a screen that have the 1024x600 resolution that is so typical of netbooks.
7:01 that, my friend, is a 1malaysia netbook, they were given out free by the Malaysian government. It was just a generic chinese netbook with eyesore of a 1malaysia sticker placed on top of the lid, the hard drives in those netbooks were notorious for failing constantly. As far as I'm aware they replaced these with much better (but still bad) Acer Aspire Ones
The popup at 11:10 is from a well-known, but kind of infamous Chinese software called 360 Safeguard. The first popup said that your computer boots in 1 minute and 2 seconds, beating 23% of all computers, and suggesting that you should do 6 optimizations. The second popup and the ball at 11:37 came from its system monitoring software, saying that your computer had used 25% of memory and suggested you close some programs (even though the computer is totally fine). That software is supposed to work like an antivirus and PC optimization software. However, it could take up so many resources and so difficult to uninstall, such that it behaves more like malware. Nevertheless, it is commonly found in computers owned by the Chinese elderly.
btw The browser from the same netbook is called 360 Safety Browser. It's basically some backported or old version of Chromium for Windows XP. As the name suggests, this is also from the same company as 360 Safeguard. The previous owner had the whole suite installed on that poor netbook 😂.
as a chinese myself, when the first laptop booted up i just felt a surge of nostalgia. that's just one reflection of most typical home laptop or pcs back in 2010s, and it surely was my memory
Added: the system vendor is "YLMF" as the wallpaper states, the greatest windows pirate company at that time. It actually lived until windows Vista era and then just disappeared
@@mumpy1520 it's "360 safe browser", a qihoo-360 company series software. it can open youtube because it runs on a newer chromium build (80+) which official winXP chrome stopped at 49
That Eee PC keyboard layout is not that bad. The one on Russian Eee's is miserable, though: firstly 2 or 3 keys on the right of each letter row are even smaller (to fit in rarely used letters), and secondly, some genius decided to move the tilde key into the function row, left of Esc. Yes, that means the function keys are shifted one position to the right! Got muscle memory? Throw it in the traaaash.
netbooks still can run on Linux Mint, I've repaired the Eee700 (7"), 900 (9") and 1000/1005/1010 (10"), the Atom D255 (in German, I live in Argentina, I speak Spanish), the Toshiba NB100/105, and lots of HP Minis, the worst limitation was the ram. We have lots of netbooks as our country gave lots of them to pupils in schools (MIT's OLPC initiative), after 2015 processors were upgraded to Celerons and ram increased to 4 gigs. Those netbooks were crucial in 2020 during the pandemic to keep educational services alive. I sold a month ago a HP Mini-210 with w10 Mini OS (a modified w10). They still have life remaining, not that much, but they're still useful.
I have an EEE 1001PX with 2GB ram, Atom N450 and a 250SSD still in everyday use with Q4OS 64bit :D I bought it for school, than I used it as a toolbox to repair other PCs (storing ISOs and installers and to create bootdrives), now it's a "mancave pc" hooked up to a 4:3 monitor and external m+k and speakers. Mainly it's a jukebox/netradio, a little "focus typewriter" so I can write without distractions. Also it's a little beast with dosbox to play old games, really a nice project PC. It also had a 32 bit W7 setup for some old games. Great little pc serving me 15+ years now for almost every single day. Of course not my main PC but i would really miss it if it dies someday and probably get a similar for the same purpose :D
@@markenetube With W7 I agree, all network devices are blocked. But why not with q4os? It's basically an up2date debian with trinity DE. Fun fact: with minitube it can play 720p youtube at 30fps. Pretty impressive for it's spec.
@luki8806 it's an I5 sony viao. It will take win 10, but I find I get crashes on C&C etc. I have Liux Mint on a second partition . That runs like a dream. I used my Samsung netbook every day until 2 years ago. I use a Lenovo one still. Not with an Atom chip. It has a low power Celeron. I love keeping old tech useful. I do think it odd when people mock older stuff by trying to run things made 15 years after they were made. In their time they worked fine. I found a windows 95 PC in a skip a few years back. I was impressed at how fast it was. 16meg of ram. 800meg had.
49:52 - In the late 00's/early 10's, it was pretty common practice by PC repair corner shops (at least in Brazil) to make 2 partitions on an HD when installing Windows on someone's computer, and the technician would tell the user to save all their data in the second partition. That way, when the computer inevitably needed to be wiped again, the technician would just wipe the Windows partition and keep the second partition intact. Of course, the user would almost never use that partition because they would keep saving their stuff in the default folders, which are in the Windows partition. Good times!
One thing I’ve found Netbooks useful for is a diagnostic PC for automotive purposes (think OBDII). Not as cumbersome as a regular notebook and it doesn’t require much processing power. Adding an SSD always helps too.
Bill Gates killed the netbook. He wouldn't let the product line evolve, demanding that the machines use extremely low hardware specs and punishing anyone who went over those specs with high Windows licensing fees. Chromebooks don't have that problem because, of course, they're not using Windows.
Speaking of running Linux on these, the one without a tilda would actually be a pain. Not that you couldn't do it, but it's the shortcut for home directory. It makes the difference between typing ~/folder/file and /home/user/folder/file. For distro, Xububtu or Lubuntu might be good options.
The tilde (~) is usually found on the ESC(APE) key. You can always remap the keys or assign that character to some combination of modifier keys (Ctrl, Alt, Shift) and a regular key.
I love the netbook form factor! Bought an MSI Wind back around 2010. Upgraded the RAM to 2GB and it actually worked rather well for basic stuff. When it died of old age - the plastic literally broke to pieces - I replaced it with a Lenovo 11e which had a quad core AMD with 4GB RAM. That machine is a TANK which still works perfectly fine other than being terribly outdated. After 5 years or so I replaced with a newer 11e 2-in-1 with an Intel M series, and 8GB of ram. Unfortunately that machine is glitchy and gets stuck in low power mode. Seems to be a problem with the newer 11e generations. I think the key is to manage expectations. To me these were cheap beater laptops I could take on the go without concern. If I dropped one and broke it oh well. My son was issued a small 2-in-1 chromebook by his school that looks pretty much identical to the 11e and is for using the school's google docs on it. Even his textbooks are on it. No more textbooks, just a touchscreen laptop; I'm jealous!
In hindsight, it's not really that our computers felt slower despite the fact that they were... it's that the software didn't require as much power as today's PCs so from a performance standpoint, the software of the internet in 2009 ran just fine on a laptop from 2009. We didn't have as many features and integrations as today, but things ran fine.
Nahhh these things mostly ran like shit on the net. I remember very well having to change user agent to mobile to make it somewhat useful online... In 2013.
I have a netbook called HP Mini 311 with 256mb NVidia ION graphics, and combined with Windows XP + SSD, it can actually do things and run old games well.
@@ChupetaoSP I would say 2005 games or below and at mid-low settings. The only games I have personally tried are San Andreas and both Battlefronts games and they all run fine at mid-low settings.
I used to have an MSI netbook as a daily driver about 7-8 years ago. It was a dual core Celeron and was actually quite good for what it was, especially with SSD and RAM upgrade. It worked up until last year when the on-board RAM failed, so now it's pretty much dead.
youtube's html video player is utter resource hog and such crap tbh the flash player had a looooot better performance, and you'd be better off using stuff like vlc to stream the yt videos modern web dev is a shit
Back in 2011 I had a Acer Aspire One 722 Netbook. Powered by an AMD C-60 APU (first gen of AMD APU´s) + 8GB Ram it served me pretty well. With the quite capible GPU in this thing light gaming was no problem. My Dream machine back then was the Alienware M11x, the coolest Netbook ever created. If Alienware made a modern M11x instead of a Handheld PC i would buy that thing in an instant.
I still have an AMD based EEE PC and with an upgrade to an SSD and 8GB of RRAM I loaded Q4OS Linux and...it still makes a good basic laptop. Plays 720P video, surfs the web, they really aren't bad little laptops.
I still own a HP Mini 311-1000nr that I did a board swap on for the one that had the full nvidia ION. I also flashed the hacked bios to overclock it and added a 2gb ram stick to max out the ram capacity to 3GB. It's fun to tinker with.
To add insult to injury, corporations saw the low TDP processor as an excuse to not put a proper heatsink on it, further continuing the tradition of mid 2000s hot uncomfortable and loud plastic
I own such a tablet PC, the HP Compaq TC-1100. In my opinion those are criminally underrated. I'm still using mine for sirious tasks. The Aspire One was my first ever Notebook in 2015. I cannot express how much I hated that slow peace of junk😅
Had a Dell Mini 10v back in the day. 10.1" screen, Atom N270, and 1GB RAM. Despite its anemic specs, it was an absolutely fantastic Hackintosh and ran Snow Leopard like a dream (with a patched 32-bit kernel).
Not me still using that same Acer Aspire One model in 3:30 as my main computer in 2024. 💀 It was super cool back in the day, but for 2024 standards it's definitely a torture device. Yet, something worth mentioning about my Aspire One is that, even after 14 years using it, the battery is working perfectly. Back in the day it lasted like 3 hours disconnected and after all this time it can survive 1 entire hour before needing to recharge. Even though it drives me crazy, after so many years together, i've grown fond of it but i do hope i can upgrade in the next years because such hardware can't run windows 10 not even to save its life and windows 7 is already a relic
OMG, the Eee PC! This little gem was amazing! It came with the most horrible custom Linux-like crap installed, but I managed to turn it into a Hackintosh that ran faster than my iMac G5! Using an external monitor and keyboard, I actually made some tunes on this thing running GarageBand. Oh, the memories!
Biggest issue w/ these netbooks and linux is the fact that these usually all have 32 bit atoms in them and linux is phasing out 32 bit support so the majority of the major distros just dont work
can i have that minimalist one ? You only understand when you need that size but anyway dose not help being on Ontario Disability Support Program or some call ODSP. 🤔
Ahhh this brings me back. Believe it or not, before I got my current PC I was using an Aspire One up until September of 2020 for everyday use running on Windows 8. I also played a ton of SM64 on it with PJ64 and I can say that it was even powerful enough to screen record it at 480p no issue whilst playing. It would have surely worked better under Windows 7 or XP but eh whatever. Great video
So idk if somebody has commented it yet but there never WAS an MS-DOS 7.1, not officially. The MS-DOS with some early versions of Windows 9x is called MS-DOS 7.0, but it was never released as a standalone product. But a custom "MS-DOS 7.1", based on the version of MS-DOS from Windows 98, was created by a bunch of people over in China called the "China DOS Union". It gets used as a "modern DOS" like FreeDOS does now, the same group made a minified version of Windows 3.11 that fits on one floppy disk, and that's all I know about this.
Awesome video! Love seeing these old machines. :D That unbranded one is a rip-off of the Sony Vaio FW Series, of which I own one. It's not the best rip-off I've seen, but it does definitely try its best.
I own the Alienware M11x, and the Clevo W110ER and yeah they're netbooks. but at least they have Intel Core i7s and dedicated NVIDIA GPUs. They might be the only 11.6 laptops that have dedicated graphics.
Solving the heavyweight browsing, here in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, my netbook x100e tuned with 4GB RAM and SSD is loving Windows 7-64"pro" (original), a second monitor and a remote desktop for linking to another computer running another Windows Pro.
Actually, I'm still have one of these. Helped me a ton at school with typing all the notes during classes. It could be around 10 years now. It is very worn out and running on WinXP. I still use it as typewriter with Open Office. Yes, it isn't enough, but it works and still usefull from time to time.
Oh boi... I'm still using that same model of aspire one. The ram limitation suck, the cpu and cooler assembly suck even more, but once you load it with an ssd and some flavor of linux or bsd it works like a charm. I keep mine as a spare terminal, gps and dosbox machine.
@@frokfrdk I scrolled through like 40 different links on two search engines and reddit threads, I didn't see anything other than people saying they liked his videos. I'd think if there was something really egregious it would have been in the top results.
Dear frokfrdk. You should posted video later because it was posted at 7am my time >:( You should installed Linux on them or better Chrome OS because its meant for netbooks nowadays. You as tech youtuber should know just update browsers. Or use something like Supermium. Why you needed to use dongle. What you can't find drivers for netbook? Should dropped some upgrades in netbooks like Solid State Drive and More ram. Anyways what I said was sarcasm. Video was so great. I liked how you checked threw someones bloat on netbooks.
idk about that "being better" XP is still capable of being a match for ANY Linux installs in many ways and would prove to be a interesting comparison with optimized builds, and proper software experimentation. Remember even linux is getting bloated these days (some of them) And that's proving some things that appear to be bloatware or malware might not be so (or at least not entirely)
@@soyuzrocket69 You underestimate XP's capabilities, how many options it truely has, how well it can be configured. Its arguably Microsoft's best OS to date with few that can defeat it by Microsoft or others. And you vastly overestimate linux. XP is old out of date and will only grow more so. It has withstood the test of time and being better than MANY linux variants because of this and will do so for some time to come. I'm not saying it doesn't have its flaws, its limits, but so does linux. I've seen more linux flaws and issues pop up day to day than windows. But you're also underestimating software support, hardware support (be it offical or 3rd party or fan made) XP has. There is people tinkering with it even on modern hardware. Albeit a lot of its software is outdated but a lot of it in the right hands and the right situation is quite powerful and versatile, just like XP itself is. It also has far better driver support (in general) for XP. Also several years ago XP outlasted linux in a hacking convention. Technically its very much arguably more securable (as long as you know how to fix the flaws that can be fixed by user modification). And do you realize that security through obscurity isn't security? Linux is proving that more and more as time goes on. XP wouldn't have as much of a fanbase if all of this wasn't true And the linux fanbase is well known to be arrogant and overconfident and ignorant of its own flaws.
@@soyuzrocket69 in theory. Wiindows has more security options (counting operating legacy than linux has so technically it can be more secure with care and concern. linux has FAR less of that so its reliant upon security through obscurity which isn't security
I had an Acer Aspire One as my only computer from 2010 to 2014 or so when it finally broke. I loved that damn thing. Unfortunately it really did not hold up well to being used for university. But one of the tricks I used to be able to do with it was running it in a mode where it could play music with the screen closed, sticking it in my bag with headphones plugged in and using it as basically a massive MP3 player, between the demise of my iPod and getting my first smartphone. I also loved being able to take it on the train to write without it being jammed up against my chest the whole time. I’ve never been tempted by a Chromebook of equivalent size though because there was just something special about having a fully capable (if dog slow) tiny PC with me all the time.
1:58 The whole "older laptops were dog slow" thing people seem to be mentioning often when they talk about old hardware nowadays is very exaggerated. Back when computers didn't take less than 20 seconds to boot, people would just turn their device on, go do something else, then come back once it was finished. There was no such thing as waiting in front of the machine like a Muppet then complaining about the time it took. And servers are very slow to boot even to this day because they have to initialize all their RAM and, when you have hundreds of Gigabytes or Terabytes of it, that may take a few minutes to happen.
That "old laptop slow" experience is often fueled by hand-me-down laptops that are loaded with bloatware, things you don't need, old registries that don't need to be there anymore, and too many antivirus programmes being installed.
I had mine running pretty fast usually but I did have to regularly get rid of almost everything on it, which was a bit of a problem when it was my only laptop. I remember finding it quite frustrating to try and take notes on for uni lectures until I discovered Hibernate mode, because before that I would miss a bunch of lecture notes waiting for it to boot up
Also I once tried to play Bioshock on it. I didn’t realise to start with that the fact it was running at 1 frame per second wasn’t like, a stylistic choice lol.
I had an Acer aspire One that I bought in 2010. It was the first computer I had with a built-in webcam, so I could go on chat roulette with it. I was also really amazed at how long the battery lasted without it being plugged in. I had owned laptops before, but as I'm sure you know with computers of that era, you could only go a few hours before you needed to plug them in. I never did any heavy work on it. It was just for word processing and web browsing and stuff with only a few tabs open at a time. At the time I figured that if I was in a program like nursing school or something and had to do online training programs, it would totally be all that I would need. My ex had an EeePC and she absolutely loved it. Her friend set up a custom version of Linux for it that he somehow optimized for it. When she went to college, her dad had an insisted on picking out a computer for her, instead of involving her in the process, and he got one of those gargantuan laptops that she hated hauling around. So she bought an EeePC for taking the classes and normal day-to-day use.
wow...it's garbage😂🤣 i would install all those garbage with windows xp. install age of empire on them and then setup a router without internet in my dad's basecamp and let him play the game with his friends. bring them their happy memory back😁🎉
netbook 2 i have that same one they where selling back in like 2010 on ebay for like around 290nzd free shipping brand new was a good deal at the time i still sometimes use it you can run games a little better on it if you install modded GMA drivers
Ghost was a very popular disk cloning program in the 90s. You could either have two HDDs in one machine (source and destination) or make a special netboot floppy and ghost over a network. back when I was in school I volunteered to set up a new lab of PCs, so we ghosted one win2000 image to all 24 new boxes.
Those HP entertainment PCs are nice when cleaned up. I have an HDX 9000 "The Dragon" complete in the box, and I upgraded an HDX 18, which has a Core 2 Quad QX9300 which is still way more powerful than Celeron budget laptops sold. now, with SSDs and 8GB of RAM. Late 2000s was a great time.
16:00 this happened because last time Chrome was updated on this netbook, the HTTPS protocol didn't exist yet. As such, chrome sends out an unknown protocol error, and tells you the site is most likely a scam; it doesn't even give you the option to proceed anyway. (I didn't translate the error page since my chinese is both poor and rusty but i had the same thing happen to me on a 20 tear old compaq i tried using before installing Linux Mint on it Edit: ok it was a date & time error
seeing that white Eee PC with the textured shell immediately took me back in time because I had one of them back when I was in high school, I got tired of how slow it was with the shitty Windows 7 Starter install so I put Linux on it, which started my life-long love affair with alternative operating systems
I think netbooks (they'll call them "cloud books" or something sexier) will make a comeback in a huge way soon. The tech industry doesn't want us to have anything better for cheaper than before. So I think what they will do very soon is make small, light, and thin netbook style laptops with small hard drives, ho-hum ram in the 8-16 GB range and hard drives at the maximum of 500 GB +/-. what they will have though that old netbooks didn't is AI NPUs and probably better wireless networking adapters with better range. If we are lucky, batteries that last all day. This is because everything is going into the cloud. Google phones have tiny hard drives and no SD expansion, they want your data in the cloud. Gaming PCs are expensive, cloud gaming is cheaper, impressive and possible on hardware designed for even the weakest devices. Video editing, definitely the cloud, practically everything will be soon. And American's especially are content and comfortable with monthly subscription services. So they'll sell us low end stuff, say it's to save battery, and make us pay monthly for the rest of our lives to have access to our own data.... Just a prediction.
RoHS compliant = Restriction of Hazardous Substances compliant, usually referring to the lack of lead solder and having a battery that can be safely recycled. All Intel CPUs have a branding of Genuine Intel in their ID, though a fake could easily do the same I imagine.
I've had a vendetta against Netbooks since 5th grade in 2010 when we were forced to use them. It took four or five minutes to boot up and when I called the librarian over to try to troubleshoot, it booted up in front of her, leading her to say I needed to be more patient.
man I wanted that Aspire One when I was a kid so badly, there was a version that came with a pentium and it could run minecraft at 20fps and that was gold at the time for me!
That eee PC being covered in motor oil tells that it was used just as intended. As a small crap for a workshop that you can google parts numbers or whatever on. Much better for that purpose than for any office work at all.
i love my hp mini 210. can type documents, run emulators up to including ps1, and runs classicCube which is just Minecraft. internet browsing is fine and videos are hit n miss. linux is good on it too but im enjoying 7 on it rn
i remember not long after i got my XP netbook as a kid - my first computer that actually still works today! - i was watching cartoons with my parents on pbs kids and someone pulled an ipad out and we all lost it lmao
i wonder have size like netbook...because if netbook laptop have very good spec...surely its usable for many years for daily use for browsing work and etc...easy to carry lightweight
Why do you say Late 2000s? You do know we live in year 2024…. Late 2000s would be 2999 but who knows maybe you are from the Future…. 😅 same thing with americans claim we live in 2100 centry but we live in 2000s since 21 have not happend yet 😅😅😂
Found a Aspire One in mint condition in a trash heap last week. Cutest thing i have seen. Got rid of Windows and installed AntiX 32 bit on it and now it will have a new life playing old games. I think the bloated Windows was the thing killing these type of computers.
The lack of the Win7 boot screen isn't because it's starter, it's because the fancy Win7 boot animation requires a screen resolution of 1024x768 or higher and that netbook have a screen that have the 1024x600 resolution that is so typical of netbooks.
y'know it's bad when a laptop can't even load a loading screen
@@zUltra3Dreal
So that explains why my netbook just says Microsoft Corporation
@@zUltra3D Netbooks WERE MEANT to be bad. It's because of Microsoft licensing that demands those limitations be put in place for netbooks.
I think it was because it was booting from UEFI.
This guy must be Dankpod's long lost brother.
Dankpods + MJD
@@Astrid-- EXACTLY
"SOMEONE'S BEEN IN HERE"
7:01 that, my friend, is a 1malaysia netbook, they were given out free by the Malaysian government. It was just a generic chinese netbook with eyesore of a 1malaysia sticker placed on top of the lid, the hard drives in those netbooks were notorious for failing constantly. As far as I'm aware they replaced these with much better (but still bad) Acer Aspire Ones
YOOOO it's been found!!!
oh damn we had those??? iirc at least in my school we had the aspire ones (malaysian btw)
i'm pretty sure that netbooks got replaced with lenovo thinkcenter desktop around early 2019 which is kinda nice
@@Villager_U no not really here at least we have transitioned to these netbbok sized thinkpads running windows 10 however
By the shape and design alone, I think it's based off the Eee PC 1000H.
The popup at 11:10 is from a well-known, but kind of infamous Chinese software called 360 Safeguard. The first popup said that your computer boots in 1 minute and 2 seconds, beating 23% of all computers, and suggesting that you should do 6 optimizations. The second popup and the ball at 11:37 came from its system monitoring software, saying that your computer had used 25% of memory and suggested you close some programs (even though the computer is totally fine).
That software is supposed to work like an antivirus and PC optimization software. However, it could take up so many resources and so difficult to uninstall, such that it behaves more like malware. Nevertheless, it is commonly found in computers owned by the Chinese elderly.
btw The browser from the same netbook is called 360 Safety Browser. It's basically some backported or old version of Chromium for Windows XP. As the name suggests, this is also from the same company as 360 Safeguard. The previous owner had the whole suite installed on that poor netbook 😂.
Funnily, I also have this app/antivirus on my Netbook too. ahahah Too bad I cannot power up my Newtbook coz I don't have a charger that fits the plug.
lol, the irony of Chinese software to 'keep you safe' online... from what? Free press and discovering human rights exist elsewhere?!
360 is basically malware
💀💀💀
as a chinese myself, when the first laptop booted up i just felt a surge of nostalgia. that's just one reflection of most typical home laptop or pcs back in 2010s, and it surely was my memory
Added: the system vendor is "YLMF" as the wallpaper states, the greatest windows pirate company at that time. It actually lived until windows Vista era and then just disappeared
do you know the name of that browser that actually loaded youtube?
@@mumpy1520 that's called "360 safety browser", a 360 series software which run a newer chromium build
@@mumpy1520 it's "360 safe browser", a qihoo-360 company series software. it can open youtube because it runs on a newer chromium build (80+) which official winXP chrome stopped at 49
@@mumpy1520try supermium
These netbooks aren't actually that bad - Windows is.
Run Linux and they will be sooo much faster. Linux takes just 200MB Ram.
That Eee PC keyboard layout is not that bad. The one on Russian Eee's is miserable, though: firstly 2 or 3 keys on the right of each letter row are even smaller (to fit in rarely used letters), and secondly, some genius decided to move the tilde key into the function row, left of Esc. Yes, that means the function keys are shifted one position to the right! Got muscle memory? Throw it in the traaaash.
1:25 brat vaio
I find Netbooks really endearing! They try so hard :)
LETS GOOO 1 HOUR LONG FROKFRDK VIDEO
13:20 dang my guy flat out ignored firefox and green chinese inet explorer, that's harsh
netbooks still can run on Linux Mint, I've repaired the Eee700 (7"), 900 (9") and 1000/1005/1010 (10"), the Atom D255 (in German, I live in Argentina, I speak Spanish), the Toshiba NB100/105, and lots of HP Minis, the worst limitation was the ram. We have lots of netbooks as our country gave lots of them to pupils in schools (MIT's OLPC initiative), after 2015 processors were upgraded to Celerons and ram increased to 4 gigs. Those netbooks were crucial in 2020 during the pandemic to keep educational services alive. I sold a month ago a HP Mini-210 with w10 Mini OS (a modified w10). They still have life remaining, not that much, but they're still useful.
can't believe frokfrdk made an 1+ hour vid and uploaded it 12 hours before wwdc24
True 😅
Getting in early before everyone goes to wwdc content for the next week
Heh i forgot that was coming up. I used to follow them religiously.
@@TheAppleExperence Only lemmings watch Apple trash.
@@TheAppleExperence Apple is for fkg iddie yots.
I have an EEE 1001PX with 2GB ram, Atom N450 and a 250SSD still in everyday use with Q4OS 64bit :D I bought it for school, than I used it as a toolbox to repair other PCs (storing ISOs and installers and to create bootdrives), now it's a "mancave pc" hooked up to a 4:3 monitor and external m+k and speakers. Mainly it's a jukebox/netradio, a little "focus typewriter" so I can write without distractions. Also it's a little beast with dosbox to play old games, really a nice project PC. It also had a 32 bit W7 setup for some old games. Great little pc serving me 15+ years now for almost every single day. Of course not my main PC but i would really miss it if it dies someday and probably get a similar for the same purpose :D
Someone will probably warn you not to go online with it. I have an old laptop for gaming I use for RUclips too sometimes. Not been hacked yet.
@@markenetube With W7 I agree, all network devices are blocked. But why not with q4os? It's basically an up2date debian with trinity DE. Fun fact: with minitube it can play 720p youtube at 30fps. Pretty impressive for it's spec.
@luki8806 it's an I5 sony viao. It will take win 10, but I find I get crashes on C&C etc. I have Liux Mint on a second partition . That runs like a dream. I used my Samsung netbook every day until 2 years ago. I use a Lenovo one still. Not with an Atom chip. It has a low power Celeron. I love keeping old tech useful. I do think it odd when people mock older stuff by trying to run things made 15 years after they were made. In their time they worked fine. I found a windows 95 PC in a skip a few years back. I was impressed at how fast it was. 16meg of ram. 800meg had.
Q4OS is a good choice for these netbooks. Debian based, resource friendly and up to date, can't go wrong.
49:52 - In the late 00's/early 10's, it was pretty common practice by PC repair corner shops (at least in Brazil) to make 2 partitions on an HD when installing Windows on someone's computer, and the technician would tell the user to save all their data in the second partition. That way, when the computer inevitably needed to be wiped again, the technician would just wipe the Windows partition and keep the second partition intact. Of course, the user would almost never use that partition because they would keep saving their stuff in the default folders, which are in the Windows partition. Good times!
36:58 welp, that's nice. Removing ram without removing the battery. That never went wrong in the history of computing. 💡
I will continue to remove ram without removing the battery every single time from here on out
I will remove RAM without removing the battery if it's off, what could go wrong?
Specifications for each laptop:
8:48 - Netbook #1: Asus Aspire ONE D255 Specifications:
CPU: Intel Atom N450 (@1.66ghz, 1core, 2 threads)
RAM: 1GB
HDD: 160GB HDD
SCREEN: 10.1inch
Windows XP
34:20 - Netbook #2: PC100 / CloudNet Go Specifications:
CPU: Intel Atom N270 (@1.6ghz, 1core, 2 threads)
RAM: 1GB DDR2
HDD: 160GB HDD (Fujitsu)
SCREEN: 10.6inch (1024x600)
Windows 7
56:54 - Netbook #3: Toshiba NB520 Specifications:
CPU: Intel Atom N570 (@1.66ghz, 2cores, 4 threads)
RAM: 2GB
HDD: 320GB?
SCREEN: 10.1inch
Windows 7
One thing I’ve found Netbooks useful for is a diagnostic PC for automotive purposes (think OBDII). Not as cumbersome as a regular notebook and it doesn’t require much processing power. Adding an SSD always helps too.
Bill Gates killed the netbook. He wouldn't let the product line evolve, demanding that the machines use extremely low hardware specs and punishing anyone who went over those specs with high Windows licensing fees. Chromebooks don't have that problem because, of course, they're not using Windows.
old netbooks in this video being used in 2024: "oh hi thanks for checking in I'm _🎵still a piece of garbage🎵"_
Speaking of running Linux on these, the one without a tilda would actually be a pain. Not that you couldn't do it, but it's the shortcut for home directory. It makes the difference between typing ~/folder/file and /home/user/folder/file.
For distro, Xububtu or Lubuntu might be good options.
Never thought about that, that is actually kinda funny
been running lmde with mate de on mine, mostly. Well, devuan with mint bodykit by the time i finish with them.
Isn't the tilda key to the left of the space?
trust me my friend even xubuntu and lubuntu are too much for those
The tilde (~) is usually found on the ESC(APE) key.
You can always remap the keys or assign that character to some combination of modifier keys (Ctrl, Alt, Shift) and a regular key.
The color of the Toshiba Netbook is Gimblit - BCA476 with an RGB of 188, 164, 118.
I love the netbook form factor! Bought an MSI Wind back around 2010. Upgraded the RAM to 2GB and it actually worked rather well for basic stuff. When it died of old age - the plastic literally broke to pieces - I replaced it with a Lenovo 11e which had a quad core AMD with 4GB RAM. That machine is a TANK which still works perfectly fine other than being terribly outdated. After 5 years or so I replaced with a newer 11e 2-in-1 with an Intel M series, and 8GB of ram. Unfortunately that machine is glitchy and gets stuck in low power mode. Seems to be a problem with the newer 11e generations.
I think the key is to manage expectations. To me these were cheap beater laptops I could take on the go without concern. If I dropped one and broke it oh well.
My son was issued a small 2-in-1 chromebook by his school that looks pretty much identical to the 11e and is for using the school's google docs on it. Even his textbooks are on it. No more textbooks, just a touchscreen laptop; I'm jealous!
In hindsight, it's not really that our computers felt slower despite the fact that they were... it's that the software didn't require as much power as today's PCs so from a performance standpoint, the software of the internet in 2009 ran just fine on a laptop from 2009. We didn't have as many features and integrations as today, but things ran fine.
Nahhh these things mostly ran like shit on the net. I remember very well having to change user agent to mobile to make it somewhat useful online... In 2013.
I have a netbook called HP Mini 311 with 256mb NVidia ION graphics, and combined with Windows XP + SSD, it can actually do things and run old games well.
Cool. Im looking for this one to buy it. Which games can run?
@@ChupetaoSP I would say 2005 games or below and at mid-low settings. The only games I have personally tried are San Andreas and both Battlefronts games and they all run fine at mid-low settings.
I used to have an MSI netbook as a daily driver about 7-8 years ago. It was a dual core Celeron and was actually quite good for what it was, especially with SSD and RAM upgrade. It worked up until last year when the on-board RAM failed, so now it's pretty much dead.
You caught me! Linux user here!
I'd recommend MX Linux for older and extremely underpowered computers.
youtube's html video player is utter resource hog and such crap tbh
the flash player had a looooot better performance, and you'd be better off using stuff like vlc to stream the yt videos
modern web dev is a shit
This netbooks with Intel chipsets run better than my Acer Aspire 1 with an AMD C-60 APU, cant even play youtube at 240p
Back in 2011 I had a Acer Aspire One 722 Netbook. Powered by an AMD C-60 APU (first gen of AMD APU´s) + 8GB Ram it served me pretty well. With the quite capible GPU in this thing light gaming was no problem. My Dream machine back then was the Alienware M11x, the coolest Netbook ever created. If Alienware made a modern M11x instead of a Handheld PC i would buy that thing in an instant.
I still have an AMD based EEE PC and with an upgrade to an SSD and 8GB of RRAM I loaded Q4OS Linux and...it still makes a good basic laptop. Plays 720P video, surfs the web, they really aren't bad little laptops.
0:32 - I had this laptop! It was actually the first ever laptop I used! (And I watched the angry birds movie on it haha)
I still own a HP Mini 311-1000nr that I did a board swap on for the one that had the full nvidia ION. I also flashed the hacked bios to overclock it and added a 2gb ram stick to max out the ram capacity to 3GB. It's fun to tinker with.
To add insult to injury, corporations saw the low TDP processor as an excuse to not put a proper heatsink on it, further continuing the tradition of mid 2000s hot uncomfortable and loud plastic
I own such a tablet PC, the HP Compaq TC-1100. In my opinion those are criminally underrated. I'm still using mine for sirious tasks.
The Aspire One was my first ever Notebook in 2015. I cannot express how much I hated that slow peace of junk😅
Had a Dell Mini 10v back in the day. 10.1" screen, Atom N270, and 1GB RAM. Despite its anemic specs, it was an absolutely fantastic Hackintosh and ran Snow Leopard like a dream (with a patched 32-bit kernel).
@TheAppleFreak yeah, I also used my Dell Mini 10v as a hackintosh. That was the only reason I bought it. Today it is running Linux MX Linux XFCE.
I still use a netbook on a regular basis! Can’t say it’s unusable. I didn’t even know why I began using it considering I have a gaming laptop 😂
eee pc x101ch in white is still my goto for music device to take on holiday
Not me still using that same Acer Aspire One model in 3:30 as my main computer in 2024. 💀
It was super cool back in the day, but for 2024 standards it's definitely a torture device. Yet, something worth mentioning about my Aspire One is that, even after 14 years using it, the battery is working perfectly. Back in the day it lasted like 3 hours disconnected and after all this time it can survive 1 entire hour before needing to recharge.
Even though it drives me crazy, after so many years together, i've grown fond of it but i do hope i can upgrade in the next years because such hardware can't run windows 10 not even to save its life and windows 7 is already a relic
3:44 i actually loved this, this laptop was my childhood, unfortunately i spilled milk all over it and it doesnt turn on
If you still have it you should try repairing it.
OMG, the Eee PC! This little gem was amazing! It came with the most horrible custom Linux-like crap installed, but I managed to turn it into a Hackintosh that ran faster than my iMac G5! Using an external monitor and keyboard, I actually made some tunes on this thing running GarageBand. Oh, the memories!
Biggest issue w/ these netbooks and linux is the fact that these usually all have 32 bit atoms in them and linux is phasing out 32 bit support so the majority of the major distros just dont work
1:06:19 That's why the Toshiba netbook worked better - it was a dual core Atom, whereas all the other ones were single core.
can i have that minimalist one ? You only understand when you need that size but anyway dose not help being on Ontario Disability Support Program or some call ODSP.
🤔
Ahhh this brings me back. Believe it or not, before I got my current PC I was using an Aspire One up until September of 2020 for everyday use running on Windows 8. I also played a ton of SM64 on it with PJ64 and I can say that it was even powerful enough to screen record it at 480p no issue whilst playing. It would have surely worked better under Windows 7 or XP but eh whatever. Great video
So idk if somebody has commented it yet but there never WAS an MS-DOS 7.1, not officially. The MS-DOS with some early versions of Windows 9x is called MS-DOS 7.0, but it was never released as a standalone product. But a custom "MS-DOS 7.1", based on the version of MS-DOS from Windows 98, was created by a bunch of people over in China called the "China DOS Union". It gets used as a "modern DOS" like FreeDOS does now, the same group made a minified version of Windows 3.11 that fits on one floppy disk, and that's all I know about this.
the Nintendo 3DS XXL at 6:43 🫠
Me watching on a 2010 netbook:
Awesome video! Love seeing these old machines. :D
That unbranded one is a rip-off of the Sony Vaio FW Series, of which I own one. It's not the best rip-off I've seen, but it does definitely try its best.
“Goobery”.. wow this reminds me of me.
I own the Alienware M11x, and the Clevo W110ER and yeah they're netbooks. but at least they have Intel Core i7s and dedicated NVIDIA GPUs. They might be the only 11.6 laptops that have dedicated graphics.
Solving the heavyweight browsing, here in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, my netbook x100e tuned with 4GB RAM and SSD is loving Windows 7-64"pro" (original), a second monitor and a remote desktop for linking to another computer running another Windows Pro.
Actually, I'm still have one of these. Helped me a ton at school with typing all the notes during classes. It could be around 10 years now. It is very worn out and running on WinXP. I still use it as typewriter with Open Office. Yes, it isn't enough, but it works and still usefull from time to time.
Supermium is cool. Modern backport of actual Chromium builds running all the way back to the XP.
27:40 Why didn't you go into the language configs and change the system language to english?! It would have been easier to read everything.
Oh boi... I'm still using that same model of aspire one. The ram limitation suck, the cpu and cooler assembly suck even more, but once you load it with an ssd and some flavor of linux or bsd it works like a charm. I keep mine as a spare terminal, gps and dosbox machine.
Still have my Aspire One from 2008, maxed the RAM to 2GB, upgraded the hard drive to 750GB, and running Puppy Linux. Going strong.
There was Mozilla Firefox which is also a web browser and that wasn't a Micro SD card slot...
lol no way would I watch a Cathode Ray Dude video. That guy is a genuine POS.
Is there something I missed?
What happened?
@@frokfrdk I scrolled through like 40 different links on two search engines and reddit threads, I didn't see anything other than people saying they liked his videos. I'd think if there was something really egregious it would have been in the top results.
Now is he actually a POS or are you just mad at his politics?
1:07:00 update chrome and eagler will work (from personal experience)
You couldn't load those websites because you didn't sate the current date.
Net book aka Chromebook's long lost cousin twice removed
He's back!
I see you have a serious problem about cleaning PCs.
Don't say bad words
*Insert russians in cs2 raging here*
Oh wow I have like the exact one as you (the HP Pavilion), which model do you have? And does it still work?
Ffffff yes, another vid, ive got frokfrdk withdrawal 😂
Dear frokfrdk.
You should posted video later because it was posted at 7am my time >:(
You should installed Linux on them or better Chrome OS because its meant for netbooks nowadays.
You as tech youtuber should know just update browsers. Or use something like Supermium.
Why you needed to use dongle. What you can't find drivers for netbook?
Should dropped some upgrades in netbooks like Solid State Drive and More ram.
Anyways what I said was sarcasm. Video was so great. I liked how you checked threw someones bloat on netbooks.
idk about that "being better" XP is still capable of being a match for ANY Linux installs in many ways and would prove to be a interesting comparison with optimized builds, and proper software experimentation. Remember even linux is getting bloated these days (some of them) And that's proving some things that appear to be bloatware or malware might not be so (or at least not entirely)
@@patg108 not really.
@@soyuzrocket69 You underestimate XP's capabilities, how many options it truely has, how well it can be configured.
Its arguably Microsoft's best OS to date with few that can defeat it by Microsoft or others.
And you vastly overestimate linux. XP is old out of date and will only grow more so.
It has withstood the test of time and being better than MANY linux variants because of this and will do so for some time to come.
I'm not saying it doesn't have its flaws, its limits, but so does linux. I've seen more linux flaws and issues pop up day to day than windows.
But you're also underestimating software support, hardware support (be it offical or 3rd party or fan made) XP has. There is people tinkering with it even on modern hardware.
Albeit a lot of its software is outdated but a lot of it in the right hands and the right situation is quite powerful and versatile, just like XP itself is.
It also has far better driver support (in general) for XP.
Also several years ago XP outlasted linux in a hacking convention. Technically its very much arguably more securable (as long as you know how to fix the flaws that can be fixed by user modification).
And do you realize that security through obscurity isn't security? Linux is proving that more and more as time goes on.
XP wouldn't have as much of a fanbase if all of this wasn't true And the linux fanbase is well known to be arrogant and overconfident and ignorant of its own flaws.
@@patg108 still its a security problem use a protected os instead smh windows users
@@soyuzrocket69 in theory. Wiindows has more security options (counting operating legacy than linux has so technically it can be more secure with care and concern.
linux has FAR less of that so its reliant upon security through obscurity which isn't security
Nice video! Could you upload that wallpaper from the Acer Aspire One somewhere?
I had an Acer Aspire One as my only computer from 2010 to 2014 or so when it finally broke. I loved that damn thing. Unfortunately it really did not hold up well to being used for university. But one of the tricks I used to be able to do with it was running it in a mode where it could play music with the screen closed, sticking it in my bag with headphones plugged in and using it as basically a massive MP3 player, between the demise of my iPod and getting my first smartphone. I also loved being able to take it on the train to write without it being jammed up against my chest the whole time. I’ve never been tempted by a Chromebook of equivalent size though because there was just something special about having a fully capable (if dog slow) tiny PC with me all the time.
That power point presentation is so peak
1:58 The whole "older laptops were dog slow" thing people seem to be mentioning often when they talk about old hardware nowadays is very exaggerated. Back when computers didn't take less than 20 seconds to boot, people would just turn their device on, go do something else, then come back once it was finished. There was no such thing as waiting in front of the machine like a Muppet then complaining about the time it took. And servers are very slow to boot even to this day because they have to initialize all their RAM and, when you have hundreds of Gigabytes or Terabytes of it, that may take a few minutes to happen.
That "old laptop slow" experience is often fueled by hand-me-down laptops that are loaded with bloatware, things you don't need, old registries that don't need to be there anymore, and too many antivirus programmes being installed.
I had mine running pretty fast usually but I did have to regularly get rid of almost everything on it, which was a bit of a problem when it was my only laptop. I remember finding it quite frustrating to try and take notes on for uni lectures until I discovered Hibernate mode, because before that I would miss a bunch of lecture notes waiting for it to boot up
Also I once tried to play Bioshock on it. I didn’t realise to start with that the fact it was running at 1 frame per second wasn’t like, a stylistic choice lol.
I had an Acer aspire One that I bought in 2010. It was the first computer I had with a built-in webcam, so I could go on chat roulette with it. I was also really amazed at how long the battery lasted without it being plugged in. I had owned laptops before, but as I'm sure you know with computers of that era, you could only go a few hours before you needed to plug them in.
I never did any heavy work on it. It was just for word processing and web browsing and stuff with only a few tabs open at a time. At the time I figured that if I was in a program like nursing school or something and had to do online training programs, it would totally be all that I would need.
My ex had an EeePC and she absolutely loved it. Her friend set up a custom version of Linux for it that he somehow optimized for it. When she went to college, her dad had an insisted on picking out a computer for her, instead of involving her in the process, and he got one of those gargantuan laptops that she hated hauling around. So she bought an EeePC for taking the classes and normal day-to-day use.
Wow you have been nostalgia is laptop
I have an acer aspire one - 2012
wow...it's garbage😂🤣 i would install all those garbage with windows xp. install age of empire on them and then setup a router without internet in my dad's basecamp and let him play the game with his friends. bring them their happy memory back😁🎉
netbook 2 i have that same one they where selling back in like 2010 on ebay for like around 290nzd free shipping brand new was a good deal at the time i still sometimes use it
you can run games a little better on it if you install modded GMA drivers
Im glad i stayed up till 1 am waiting for this. Thanks aussie frog
Ghost was a very popular disk cloning program in the 90s. You could either have two HDDs in one machine (source and destination) or make a special netboot floppy and ghost over a network. back when I was in school I volunteered to set up a new lab of PCs, so we ghosted one win2000 image to all 24 new boxes.
Those HP entertainment PCs are nice when cleaned up.
I have an HDX 9000 "The Dragon" complete in the box, and I upgraded an HDX 18, which has a Core 2 Quad QX9300 which is still way more powerful than Celeron budget laptops sold. now, with SSDs and 8GB of RAM.
Late 2000s was a great time.
make it 20 min tops, lame
Ah yes back then when lower class can afford laptop but it's under 1ghz from Intel atom
16:00 this happened because last time Chrome was updated on this netbook, the HTTPS protocol didn't exist yet. As such, chrome sends out an unknown protocol error, and tells you the site is most likely a scam; it doesn't even give you the option to proceed anyway. (I didn't translate the error page since my chinese is both poor and rusty but i had the same thing happen to me on a 20 tear old compaq i tried using before installing Linux Mint on it
Edit: ok it was a date & time error
seeing that white Eee PC with the textured shell immediately took me back in time because I had one of them back when I was in high school, I got tired of how slow it was with the shitty Windows 7 Starter install so I put Linux on it, which started my life-long love affair with alternative operating systems
I think netbooks (they'll call them "cloud books" or something sexier) will make a comeback in a huge way soon. The tech industry doesn't want us to have anything better for cheaper than before. So I think what they will do very soon is make small, light, and thin netbook style laptops with small hard drives, ho-hum ram in the 8-16 GB range and hard drives at the maximum of 500 GB +/-. what they will have though that old netbooks didn't is AI NPUs and probably better wireless networking adapters with better range. If we are lucky, batteries that last all day.
This is because everything is going into the cloud.
Google phones have tiny hard drives and no SD expansion, they want your data in the cloud.
Gaming PCs are expensive, cloud gaming is cheaper, impressive and possible on hardware designed for even the weakest devices.
Video editing, definitely the cloud, practically everything will be soon. And American's especially are content and comfortable with monthly subscription services. So they'll sell us low end stuff, say it's to save battery, and make us pay monthly for the rest of our lives to have access to our own data.... Just a prediction.
FWIW, I have an Asus eee PC 900ha with a fairly recent version of Kali which works surprisingly well, once I maxed the RAM on it.
RoHS compliant = Restriction of Hazardous Substances compliant, usually referring to the lack of lead solder and having a battery that can be safely recycled.
All Intel CPUs have a branding of Genuine Intel in their ID, though a fake could easily do the same I imagine.
I've had a vendetta against Netbooks since 5th grade in 2010 when we were forced to use them. It took four or five minutes to boot up and when I called the librarian over to try to troubleshoot, it booted up in front of her, leading her to say I needed to be more patient.
I remember playing through Portal 2 using an Old Aspire netbook, Not very well ofc
But can they run Linux?
Spoilers (because I have two netbooks running Linux right now): Yes. Modern Linux even.
man I wanted that Aspire One when I was a kid so badly, there was a version that came with a pentium and it could run minecraft at 20fps and that was gold at the time for me!
That eee PC being covered in motor oil tells that it was used just as intended. As a small crap for a workshop that you can google parts numbers or whatever on. Much better for that purpose than for any office work at all.
i love my hp mini 210. can type documents, run emulators up to including ps1, and runs classicCube which is just Minecraft. internet browsing is fine and videos are hit n miss. linux is good on it too but im enjoying 7 on it rn
i have all of those laptop as of now and it's still useful today in 2024 Bro. And for me it's not garbage.
They still make netbooks. I'm troubleshooting one right now. It's only a few years old. It came with Windows 10 and made by HP.
I remember using these, they were dogshit even in 2010. Most infuriating computer experience it’s just a screen with a loading circle in perpetuity
Intel Adam
i remember not long after i got my XP netbook as a kid - my first computer that actually still works today! - i was watching cartoons with my parents on pbs kids and someone pulled an ipad out and we all lost it lmao
i wonder have size like netbook...because if netbook laptop have very good spec...surely its usable for many years for daily use for browsing work and etc...easy to carry lightweight
Why do you say Late 2000s? You do know we live in year 2024…. Late 2000s would be 2999 but who knows maybe you are from the Future…. 😅 same thing with americans claim we live in 2100 centry but we live in 2000s since 21 have not happend yet 😅😅😂
Found a Aspire One in mint condition in a trash heap last week. Cutest thing i have seen. Got rid of Windows and installed AntiX 32 bit on it and now it will have a new life playing old games. I think the bloated Windows was the thing killing these type of computers.