Just wait, starting 2026 we'll be flooded with SWITCH 2 PRO rumors for the next few years lol each youtuber claiming they've got all the juicy details too! just liike the last 4-6 years lol
I don't think Jon is saying that DS games are going to be ported faithfully. There are already 3DS games on the current Switch (Xenoblade Chronicles, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and Luigi's Mansion to name a few) and although two of them were originally Wii games, they all included 3DS features. Even Jon said New Super Mario Bros. could be ported easily. It's just information. Nintendo loves advertising features that they almost never use. Hopefully, this is useful.
I don’t know why but I saw the thumbnail and for a solid couple seconds thought you were implying you could plug DS cartridges into the joycon magnet slot
that game is literally why I bought the DS. Because doing that with your finger on a smartphone, would be absurd (and yes I have a PC but playing handheld games on a PC is sorta wrong)
@@InfinitySevens Exactly, that's why it sucks It would be much better if Switch 2 could stream to TV without being "docked" like Samsung Dex and we could use the handheld screen as a second screen And also a built-in stylus... This proposal would feel like PC emulator But is better than nothing I guess
If Super Mario Maker 3 utilizes the JoyCon mouse feature, then I will probably play that game a lot. The problem with Mario Maker 2 and why it fell off so hard is that creating levels with the Switch was nowhere near as intuitive as using the Wii U gamepad for the original game.
If they can combine all of the new features from MM2 and the seamless creation tools of the first game, Mario Maker 3 will probably be the best game in the series.
tbh i think the fall off also happened bc nintendo gave up on that damn game before it even became one year old. sure it didnt sell like hotcakes (17th best selling switch game afaik) but i dont think thats due to the course design aspect bc most casual consumers dont say "wow this is a bit more finnicky to control, refund!"
you mean the actual tablet casting wirelessly to the TV? I don't see it happening honestly. I think it would be too demanding and would introduce delay due to different technologies available for different models of smart devices. Unless Nintendo creates a secure method like they did for the initial years of Nintendo Wii and DS Wi-Fi connection with that dongle, it will be a nightmare that they and no one probably will never tinker with. I hope you get your wish though.
Now then, if the dock were built with the necessary components to accommodate for that, that would be an option. But I don't think that's what Nintendo has in mind.
@@brannycedeno6823 I think it could cast to the dock,what are you talking about delay? The wii u did it perfectyl 10 years ago, jut use updated version of that teck.. Party games with that would be great!
@@brannycedeno6823 who knows, but it was a future they belived in before and people liked even tho the wii u didnt sell much, and as long as its not too expensive to inplement I think it could work well. Probably not with high resolution, but still
i've been suggesting this for the original switch for years. The only compromise would be that an special mouse pad with symnols would be needed & also an accesory to slide the ir camera around. But it could to tally work. Or sell a sensor bar for ir pointing.
terrible idea, but: if switch 2 has DS/3DS games and the switch 1 could be an optional second / touch screen via a downloadable app (like ds download play) where you connect your switch 1 (handheld) to your switch 2 (in the dock) and the switch 2 hardware is running and streaming the game to the tv and to ur switch 1 and the switch one wirelessly receives the bottom screen and delivers input. it'll make use of the 150 million switch units sold
They could also make the Dock work as a video receiver for a signal sent by the Switch 2 in your hands, allowing DS games to work with two screens just like the Wii U Virtual Console did with the GamePad.
Now I can finally see a potential Kid Icarus Uprising HD happening. With how precise you have to be when aiming in that game using a joystick would not be fun. Pointer controls would have been viable but full on mouse control would arguably be a better experience than the original.
I trust NERD to cook with this idea. At first I was thinking "yeah this solves the touch screen issue but how would you press buttons?" But then I remembered Nintendo almost always develop their games with the idea that you would hold the DS with one hand and press the D-Pad, and with the other hand just holding the stylus. So I see the vision now. The only problem would be to always have a surface around... maybe using your own arms or lap would be ideal 😂
I totally think Nintendo could use the similar idea from Konami’s Castlevania Dominus Collection since Konami did put out the three Castlevania Nintendo DS games and you could use it without the extra screen on it.
If that C button turns out to be Cast allowing the NS2 to cast to the TV without being docked then we could potentially see a return of assymetric gameplay and a very fulfilling DS comeback.
Honestly I don’t know why people think this is something crazy. Nintendo has hinted Switch being the the sweet spot they’ve found and will move forward from here, and it makes sense they’re putting the whole library of games on it and its successor(s).
It's a neat idea, but I don't see how it would be used beyond just DS/3DS games. Nintendo struggled for more than 4 years to come up with good ideas to use essentially the same gimmick with the Wii U Gamepad, and I don't see Nintendo putting a button on their console basically *just* for NSO
@@Silph_Co yeah that is a good point for sure. I guess this would rely on switch 2 games also using 2 screens to be worth it. I doubt that would be a thing for mobile to work.
Now that there’s a USB socket on both sides of the Switch2, maybe there could be an accessory where you can turn the switch2 to a vertical display and connect the joycons to the sides for a DS-esque screen split
Exactly, that layout would be the best option in my opinion too. They could easily make the accessory snap into place securely at the bottom with the magnets and be able to hold both Joy-Con similar to the Joy-Con Grip.
I can see that in new games, or even fully ported DS/3DS games, not in a virtual console, you can't access buttons in that way... But, for new games looks amazing
I just want a Mario Galaxy 2 port. Seems like the reason they didn't do it the first time was the lack of self-calibrating pointer functionality the Wii had. Doesn't seem like the Switch 2 is fixing that, hopefully they'll come up with another solution
With the additional USB port on the top it will be possible to attach a 2nd display, which may even support stereoscopic images for the full 3DS experience. Therefore I’m quite sure they will add the DS games to the NSO service soon.
The only problem will be finding a surface to use it as a mouse if you're playing in a "traditional" setup; TV and chair. I could use the mouse on my leg, so long as I don't need to move the mouse too much but, I don't know.
The mouse controls are also really nice for tabletop mode. Having to move your finger across an 8 inch display while your whole hand blocks the screen sounds really annoying. Hope we get a flipnote studios release.
you don't technically need a desk for this to work, a modern mouse works perfectly fine on most types of pants, so you can use your lap if you are deskless
There are a lot of classic games that I enjoy going back to and one thing that I kind of miss is the DS era. I’ve always hoped there could be a way to bring back DS (and potentially 3DS) on the Switch or a future system so using it as a mouse for the touch screen could be a neat compromise. One thing I’d like to see is some way to attach Joy-con to the top and bottom so you could use the Switch vertically for DS games perhaps. Maybe something that connects into each USB C port that allows the new Joy-con to attach into?
Honestly after the steam deck i just want everything to have at least one touchpad, id much prefer that over detaching the joycon and having to use it on a flat surface. Honestly though im not sure if they'll do something like this, itll probably just be some gimmick feature used in "1 2 switch 2" or whatever and then be mostly forgotten
My "C button" theory: it turns the optical sensors on and off so that you can naturally alternate between using the controller and gliding on a desktop or your lap
They should have gone with the reverse-Wii U wireless dock to the TV idea for DS and 3DS games porting. Once again the community comes up with better ideas that Nintendo themselves.
Actually, now that you mention it, I think it CAN cast from dock to tv. Pretty sure both the top and bottom of it had at least a USB-C port, meaning the dock could be modified for that.
Another idea is a wireless cast to TV by having Chromcast capable dock. You will be able to use switch with controls and it's screen like bottom screen, and TV will be your top screen
The 4 buttons and analog stick also makes it much more possible. Using the analog stick or the left joycon directional buttons to move and the bottons on the right joycon would of course mirror the DS face buttons
Even if there is no casting to the dock, perhaps you could just connect Switch 2 via standard USC-C from the top port to the dock and play 'dualscreen' for DS games with the Switch2 acting as the touchscreen+ controls and the dock simply displaying the top screen to the Display.
I've seen speculation that the mysterious C button is a "cast" button, where the Switch will run a game and cast onto a TV, becoming basically a Wii U setup.
A few nintendo game options that have obvious mouse usage potential are Mario Maker and Mario Paint! We could get SNES Mario Paint for NSO, or maybe even a brand new Mario Paint. Lots of games really benefit from mouse input, and having the mouse be built in to the default console controller makes a big swath of games way more accessible to non-pc gamers.
If Nintendo was going to seriously consider the pointer again, they'd probably do the sensor bar again. It's pretty much necessary if you want actually good pointer performance
I think it would be cool if the dock was able to stream a screen to the dock and TV, while still using it in handheld; It'd work basically like the Wii U in reverse
Another idea is that you could use some of the extra buttons as hotkey tapping specific spots. So like a game that doesn't need the face buttons for the right side because you're expected to be using the stylus could let you use ABXY for tapping specific spots of the bottom screen to do things like open a map or something.
Ah yes, I love spending $100 on used DS games instead of just playing them digitally on a fresher, smoother, more user friendly console that would generally improve the overall playability of every single DS/3DS game known to fucking man. Without also having to go to that one single dude in town that knows how to repair a 20 year old handheld just so I can play said $100 generic DS games that I had to collect from eBay.
Side note, playing Ouendan/ Elite Beat Agents through the Wii U VC is a phenomenal experience. An official port with higher quality music would have been perfect for that system, but alas...
DS emu in NSO makes much sense in handheld mode with an accesory to play switch vertical.... like it already exist for switch 1 but this time could be an official accesory
I think that Switch 2 will be able to play DS and 3DS games via a new NSO app, but it will only be possible in handheld mode and require purchasing a second screen accessory that the main system slots into and uses one of the USB slots for power and data transfer.
I'm still hoping for them to implement the ability to make the Switch itself a controller similar to the Wii U gamepad. If they could cast from the console to the gamepad on the Wii U, allowing the Switch to interact wirelessly with the dock to put games on the TV should be a possibility. This would not only allow for another way to play DS and 3DS with two actual screens, but it would allow Wii U games to be playable in their original form as well. Allowing Nintendo to put their entire library of games on one console.
As someone who hates playing first person shooter games with a controller and only plays on PC. It would be amazing to have a console that supports mouse play right out of the box. Imagine metroid prime 4 with a mouse. Or any competitive shooter.
Before this video, I didn't understand how the mouse controls would make sense for a DS game. The mockup helped visualize that much better than others could and now Im convinced that'd make a good feature, although I'd personally prefer/hope the pro control has a PS style touch pad for DS games when docked. That'd still be my preference.
I just want nintendo to release an official adapter like the flip grip / TATE mode adapter, to put the joycons on the top and bottom spine of the switch, so you can play ds/3ds games with the screen in portait mode showing the two ds/3ds screens vertically
Hi john! Hope you, and your family are well! Honestly, switch has always seemed like a perfect handheld to emulate ds/3ds games if Nintendo so wished! With switch 2, they just need to release a magnetically attached vertical mount to snap the new joycona into for portrait mode, and there you go, ds/3ds mode! A bracket already exists for switch 1, so bring it over ninty! Though I'd be happy too for Gamecube on NSO with Animal Crossing 😅 Hopefully, this, and this videos insight, becomes reality!
Was thinking this myself. Yeah, got 3D Land, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks on Switch 2 alongside the rumored WWHD/TPHD ports and you have the ultimate Zelda and Mario machine. Well like you also said 3D Land, NSMB1/2/Wii, and Galaxy 2 are still needed for Mario but imo those are likely too. NSO could and most likely will benefit a lot from this. DS/GCN on standard sub, 3DS/Wii on Expansion Pass (with both probably receiving a $5-$10 increase) and you have a winning formula. Maybe even get SM64 DS on that bad boy.
It still feels like a huge compromise (I personally hate using the mouse when em*lating DS on a PC) but the great part is that this is literally a hand held with a touch screen so touch controlls would 100% be an option and I'd be so excited for that.
I think this would work out a bit better than emulating wirh mouse and keyboard. You'll have the other joycon in tour off hand to better line up with the hand holding your DS, and you could easily shift your grip on the mouse joycon to shift back to using the button controls.
I wish Switch 2 had a Dual Screen and a Stylus This optical sensor will be cool for FPS and RTS games on Switch DS like this will feel like a PC emulator, so I am out... But I have a working 3DS with a couple DS and 3DS games in my collection
I'm legally obligated to mention the drift that occurs on Switch is actually the os correcting what it thinks is drift. Often it mistakes micro-adjustments as drift and will recenter the camera/cursor. Basically Nintendo created their own drift (also Sony seems to do this too on their systems). Gyro drift is a thing that occurs but usually after a while due to temperature change and slowly losing track of its position. Gyro drift also looks a lot like stick drift with a continuous movement in a direction. Switch drift is goes for a bit and stops. Nintendo (and Sony) need to take a lesson from Valve and implement a auto-recalibration system that detects the stableness (aka stillness) of the controller before recalibrating. Hopefully the Switch 2's os deals with that issue.
I felt pretty meh about the mouse mode rumors until the second sideways JoyCon slid onto the screen in the reveal trailer. Two mice seems so obvious in hindsight but really surprised me.
I always thought the switch 1 could have already have DS games, they could have sold a periferal to make the screen vertical and put the joy cons on the sides (3rd party exists already) and then split the screen in two. It already has touch controls
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Splatoon 4 is going to have mouse aiming options and I'm frightened, John
Oh Lord.
The already massive skill gap of shooter players to the splat player base is going to rise exponentially
There shouldn't be a Splat 4.
@@dotXyore and there shouldn't be 20 some call of duties but consumerism
@@MonsterJJ0 Thank you for supporting my point.
We have officially entered stage 2 post console reveal: delusion
Hey you never know? 😂
Seriously lol
Just wait, starting 2026 we'll be flooded with SWITCH 2 PRO rumors for the next few years lol each youtuber claiming they've got all the juicy details too! just liike the last 4-6 years lol
Warioland: Ceasefire on Switch
I don't think Jon is saying that DS games are going to be ported faithfully. There are already 3DS games on the current Switch (Xenoblade Chronicles, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and Luigi's Mansion to name a few) and although two of them were originally Wii games, they all included 3DS features. Even Jon said New Super Mario Bros. could be ported easily. It's just information. Nintendo loves advertising features that they almost never use. Hopefully, this is useful.
I don’t know why but I saw the thumbnail and for a solid couple seconds thought you were implying you could plug DS cartridges into the joycon magnet slot
Literally same 😅
@@joojishibuki same haha
My exact thought. Literally why I clicked the vid
I didn't even catch that it wasn't the switch 2 itself in the thumbnail and was about to comment "what about 3ds games"
lol yeah me too
Can't wait to spin my Joy-Con around in a circle on a table 300 times to catch a Pokemon in Pokemon Ranger
that game is literally why I bought the DS.
Because doing that with your finger on a smartphone, would be absurd (and yes I have a PC but playing handheld games on a PC is sorta wrong)
That would be the most insane thing of all time. I would love to play DS and 3ds games on a switch
We technically already have plenty of 3DS games ported to the Switch.
It'd be like how one would play DS/3DS games on an emulator, perhaps.
@@InfinitySevens Exactly, that's why it sucks
It would be much better if Switch 2 could stream to TV without being "docked" like Samsung Dex and we could use the handheld screen as a second screen
And also a built-in stylus...
This proposal would feel like PC emulator
But is better than nothing I guess
Me too!
Castlevania dominus collection would like a word.
Kid Icarus Uprising would no longer kill your wrist.
Finally we'll have an authentic way to play Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland
Unironically would love to see it on NSO. 😅
scott the woz ahh joke😂
Is that a joke or do you actually want to play that game again?
@@benmalsky9834 The Tingle games are genuinely really good, so I'd wager it's not a joke.
THIS GUY GETS IT
If Super Mario Maker 3 utilizes the JoyCon mouse feature, then I will probably play that game a lot. The problem with Mario Maker 2 and why it fell off so hard is that creating levels with the Switch was nowhere near as intuitive as using the Wii U gamepad for the original game.
If they can combine all of the new features from MM2 and the seamless creation tools of the first game, Mario Maker 3 will probably be the best game in the series.
The real Mario Paint sequel
tbh i think the fall off also happened bc nintendo gave up on that damn game before it even became one year old. sure it didnt sell like hotcakes (17th best selling switch game afaik) but i dont think thats due to the course design aspect bc most casual consumers dont say "wow this is a bit more finnicky to control, refund!"
Creating levels was fine in Handheld mode though.
A new Mario Paint game would go crazy
I really hope the switch 2 can cast to the dock/TV, it would be fantastic for party games
if thats true, maybe Nintendo Land can finally get a re-release!
you mean the actual tablet casting wirelessly to the TV? I don't see it happening honestly. I think it would be too demanding and would introduce delay due to different technologies available for different models of smart devices. Unless Nintendo creates a secure method like they did for the initial years of Nintendo Wii and DS Wi-Fi connection with that dongle, it will be a nightmare that they and no one probably will never tinker with. I hope you get your wish though.
Now then, if the dock were built with the necessary components to accommodate for that, that would be an option. But I don't think that's what Nintendo has in mind.
@@brannycedeno6823 I think it could cast to the dock,what are you talking about delay? The wii u did it perfectyl 10 years ago, jut use updated version of that teck..
Party games with that would be great!
@@brannycedeno6823 who knows, but it was a future they belived in before and people liked even tho the wii u didnt sell much, and as long as its not too expensive to inplement I think it could work well. Probably not with high resolution, but still
man this is almost like if the original could as well…but yeah I like the idea of using the mouse as a touch screen while docked
i've been suggesting this for the original switch for years. The only compromise would be that an special mouse pad with symnols would be needed & also an accesory to slide the ir camera around. But it could to tally work. Or sell a sensor bar for ir pointing.
This is exactly what i first thought of when seeing the new mouse joycon, please Nintendo bring my phantom hourglass and spirit tracks
Finally, I can play Scribblenauts DS on my Switch 2
I’ve been playing the original on my modded Wii U, it’s a great time
No you can't
terrible idea, but:
if switch 2 has DS/3DS games and the switch 1 could be an optional second / touch screen via a downloadable app (like ds download play) where you connect your switch 1 (handheld) to your switch 2 (in the dock) and the switch 2 hardware is running and streaming the game to the tv and to ur switch 1 and the switch one wirelessly receives the bottom screen and delivers input. it'll make use of the 150 million switch units sold
"Don't trade in your Nintendo Switch. We want to make sure GameStop goes out of business sooner."
I would like that
Also Samsung Dex on more robust phones works like that
You can put the phone like a computer on your TV
And the phone screen becomes a trackpad
@ hell they could even make it so itll display second screen to ur phone (via NSO app) from the docked switch 2 lol
someone at nintendo would be very confused like "they want a Wii U?!?!"😂
They could also make the Dock work as a video receiver for a signal sent by the Switch 2 in your hands, allowing DS games to work with two screens just like the Wii U Virtual Console did with the GamePad.
Now I can finally see a potential Kid Icarus Uprising HD happening. With how precise you have to be when aiming in that game using a joystick would not be fun. Pointer controls would have been viable but full on mouse control would arguably be a better experience than the original.
I trust NERD to cook with this idea. At first I was thinking "yeah this solves the touch screen issue but how would you press buttons?" But then I remembered Nintendo almost always develop their games with the idea that you would hold the DS with one hand and press the D-Pad, and with the other hand just holding the stylus. So I see the vision now. The only problem would be to always have a surface around... maybe using your own arms or lap would be ideal 😂
or...... a plastic accessory to use as a mousepad, call it the switch pad😂
If you must keep the plural for for joycon as a singular then you still need to refer to them as “both sets of joycon” and not “both set of joycon”
One step closer to Kid Icarus on the switch
“Every Pikmin game” Hey Pikmin is rolling in its grave
That was just a shitty Budget 2D Mario game with pikmon mechanics
@@Matanumipickman mechanics
Can't wait to play these on the go, just me, my switch, and my portable desk
I totally think Nintendo could use the similar idea from Konami’s Castlevania Dominus Collection since Konami did put out the three Castlevania Nintendo DS games and you could use it without the extra screen on it.
Hopefully this could mean Fossil Fighters will return in all its prehistoric rage.
If that C button turns out to be Cast allowing the NS2 to cast to the TV without being docked then we could potentially see a return of assymetric gameplay and a very fulfilling DS comeback.
The Wii U could play DS games
The Wii U also had 2 screens lol
@@JumpyKaputIf it can cast wirelessly to the dock on the TV, the possibility is there for 2 screens.
@@Norweeg I guess, it’s too early to know anyways so we’ll see
And we never got a new Elite Beat Agents on it >:(
VC
Honestly I don’t know why people think this is something crazy. Nintendo has hinted Switch being the the sweet spot they’ve found and will move forward from here, and it makes sense they’re putting the whole library of games on it and its successor(s).
He’ll, they did DS games on the Wii U virtual console, and the DS castlevania games run great on switch
because the DS had two screens, playing games that use both screens on anything other than a (3)DS is going to be a mediocre experience at best
Hear me out. The dock plays the top screen on tv. The bottom undocked switch screen for bottom like the Wii U. The c button is for casting.
It's a neat idea, but I don't see how it would be used beyond just DS/3DS games. Nintendo struggled for more than 4 years to come up with good ideas to use essentially the same gimmick with the Wii U Gamepad, and I don't see Nintendo putting a button on their console basically *just* for NSO
Its just a chat button. The joycons are a mouse. Switch 2 is computer themed.
@@Silph_Co yeah that is a good point for sure. I guess this would rely on switch 2 games also using 2 screens to be worth it. I doubt that would be a thing for mobile to work.
The C button is not used for casting
@ yeah just a guess, it could be anything, what do you think it is?
This is a brilliant idea. I think you’re on to something 🥳
Don't do that...... don't give me hope
Now that there’s a USB socket on both sides of the Switch2, maybe there could be an accessory where you can turn the switch2 to a vertical display and connect the joycons to the sides for a DS-esque screen split
Exactly, that layout would be the best option in my opinion too. They could easily make the accessory snap into place securely at the bottom with the magnets and be able to hold both Joy-Con similar to the Joy-Con Grip.
Maybe, I guess, but Including a stylus would have been a much better strategy for enabling stylus-based games than 2 skinny mice.
I'm so ready to have my unfounded hopes crushed when they inevitably reveal that the C button doesn't stand for "cast" but for "cranky kong" or sth
I can see that in new games, or even fully ported DS/3DS games, not in a virtual console, you can't access buttons in that way...
But, for new games looks amazing
Kid Icarus remake incoming
exactly what I'm thinking
I just want a Mario Galaxy 2 port. Seems like the reason they didn't do it the first time was the lack of self-calibrating pointer functionality the Wii had. Doesn't seem like the Switch 2 is fixing that, hopefully they'll come up with another solution
he mentions the pointer but I can't imagine using the face buttons while holding it like that
Buddy just buy a Wii they cost nothing
Looked at the thumbnail and thought: Wow, this clickbait is ridiculous. Then it clicked, and suddenly, "oh". You might be right.
With the additional USB port on the top it will be possible to attach a 2nd display, which may even support stereoscopic images for the full 3DS experience. Therefore I’m quite sure they will add the DS games to the NSO service soon.
You will not be able to attach a 2nd screen to it
Really hope we can attach a screen on the top usb c ( obviously shouldn’t come with the system but a first party accessory like that would be nice )
Won't happen
@@Yusei255will happen at some point via hackers and modders
The only problem will be finding a surface to use it as a mouse if you're playing in a "traditional" setup; TV and chair. I could use the mouse on my leg, so long as I don't need to move the mouse too much but, I don't know.
The mouse controls are also really nice for tabletop mode. Having to move your finger across an 8 inch display while your whole hand blocks the screen sounds really annoying. Hope we get a flipnote studios release.
who wants to sit with a flat surface when playing switch, you sit on your bed or sofa.
What’s wrong with options? Most games won’t utilize it
you don't technically need a desk for this to work, a modern mouse works perfectly fine on most types of pants, so you can use your lap if you are deskless
I just tried my mouse on my thighs, it works even on skin.
@@TwilightWolf032lucky mouse ahh
There are a lot of classic games that I enjoy going back to and one thing that I kind of miss is the DS era.
I’ve always hoped there could be a way to bring back DS (and potentially 3DS) on the Switch or a future system so using it as a mouse for the touch screen could be a neat compromise.
One thing I’d like to see is some way to attach Joy-con to the top and bottom so you could use the Switch vertically for DS games perhaps.
Maybe something that connects into each USB C port that allows the new Joy-con to attach into?
Honestly after the steam deck i just want everything to have at least one touchpad, id much prefer that over detaching the joycon and having to use it on a flat surface. Honestly though im not sure if they'll do something like this, itll probably just be some gimmick feature used in "1 2 switch 2" or whatever and then be mostly forgotten
Kid icarus uprising with a mouse
My "C button" theory: it turns the optical sensors on and off so that you can naturally alternate between using the controller and gliding on a desktop or your lap
They should have gone with the reverse-Wii U wireless dock to the TV idea for DS and 3DS games porting. Once again the community comes up with better ideas that Nintendo themselves.
whether the R1 or R2 is held, it'd also feel close to holding a stylus. I just arrived at the realization myself a few moments ago.
If they add DS and 3DS to NSO on Switch 2 we could have every Mario & Luigi game on it :')
Actually, now that you mention it, I think it CAN cast from dock to tv. Pretty sure both the top and bottom of it had at least a USB-C port, meaning the dock could be modified for that.
Modify what? Smartphones can already so it. I hope the possibility is just already there. I dont wanna plug things on the dock or console.
Another idea is a wireless cast to TV by having Chromcast capable dock.
You will be able to use switch with controls and it's screen like bottom screen, and TV will be your top screen
The 4 buttons and analog stick also makes it much more possible. Using the analog stick or the left joycon directional buttons to move and the bottons on the right joycon would of course mirror the DS face buttons
Even if there is no casting to the dock, perhaps you could just connect Switch 2 via standard USC-C from the top port to the dock and play 'dualscreen' for DS games with the Switch2 acting as the touchscreen+ controls and the dock simply displaying the top screen to the Display.
Calling it now: Some Switch 2 console cases will be designed to double as a lap desk for couch/portable play.
I've seen speculation that the mysterious C button is a "cast" button, where the Switch will run a game and cast onto a TV, becoming basically a Wii U setup.
It's not though
This is exciting!
A few nintendo game options that have obvious mouse usage potential are Mario Maker and Mario Paint! We could get SNES Mario Paint for NSO, or maybe even a brand new Mario Paint.
Lots of games really benefit from mouse input, and having the mouse be built in to the default console controller makes a big swath of games way more accessible to non-pc gamers.
If Nintendo was going to seriously consider the pointer again, they'd probably do the sensor bar again. It's pretty much necessary if you want actually good pointer performance
You wouldn't necessarily need a desk. Just having some surface for the optical sensor to register movement would be enough.
Switch 2 will be able to cast to the dock to enable 2 screen Ds play
No it won't
I think it would be cool if the dock was able to stream a screen to the dock and TV, while still using it in handheld; It'd work basically like the Wii U in reverse
I dont think they put ds carts down just to pick them up again later
Jon is here to give me a variety of hope. I'm here for all of it
Another idea is that you could use some of the extra buttons as hotkey tapping specific spots.
So like a game that doesn't need the face buttons for the right side because you're expected to be using the stylus could let you use ABXY for tapping specific spots of the bottom screen to do things like open a map or something.
A lot of DS and 3DS potential there.
Would love to see Mario Paint make a comeback, too.
Switch 1 could play DS games if Nintendo weren't afraid of a portrait mode
I can't wait to play Ace Attorney, Professor Layton or Hotel Dusk with the Switch 2 mouse.
I just WarioWare: Mouse Moves
WarioWare: Click It!
Galaxy brain idea: using a DS to play DS games
well yeah, but guess which console is no longer in production
Ah yes, I love spending $100 on used DS games instead of just playing them digitally on a fresher, smoother, more user friendly console that would generally improve the overall playability of every single DS/3DS game known to fucking man. Without also having to go to that one single dude in town that knows how to repair a 20 year old handheld just so I can play said $100 generic DS games that I had to collect from eBay.
Not everyone can spend 500 bucks on dragon quest 5 dude. I love my ds but like, come on
@@YaminoMizu get an R4
@@jojloj7348 how about using a 3DS to play DS games?
Could the top usb c port be used for an additional screen attachment for DS/3DS?
Not happening
The switch has always had a touchscreen
Yes, but the touchscreen is inaccessible when docked.
@@omarg2079... And the switch 2 is the same?
Side note, playing Ouendan/ Elite Beat Agents through the Wii U VC is a phenomenal experience. An official port with higher quality music would have been perfect for that system, but alas...
I hope we can use it on our couches and laps. I want to chill
Cool idea! I definitely want DS and Wii U games, but who plays Nintendo at a desk? Broader functionality at least would be nice.
DS emu in NSO makes much sense in handheld mode with an accesory to play switch vertical.... like it already exist for switch 1 but this time could be an official accesory
I think that Switch 2 will be able to play DS and 3DS games via a new NSO app, but it will only be possible in handheld mode and require purchasing a second screen accessory that the main system slots into and uses one of the USB slots for power and data transfer.
I really hope for a noteable point and click adventure presence on the Switch 2 after seeing the optical sensor.
I'm still hoping for them to implement the ability to make the Switch itself a controller similar to the Wii U gamepad. If they could cast from the console to the gamepad on the Wii U, allowing the Switch to interact wirelessly with the dock to put games on the TV should be a possibility. This would not only allow for another way to play DS and 3DS with two actual screens, but it would allow Wii U games to be playable in their original form as well. Allowing Nintendo to put their entire library of games on one console.
Holy cow I'm so hyped now!
As someone who hates playing first person shooter games with a controller and only plays on PC. It would be amazing to have a console that supports mouse play right out of the box. Imagine metroid prime 4 with a mouse. Or any competitive shooter.
Not sure about using the mouse for DS games, but I am looking forward to it transforming titles like Civilization and XCOM.
So because Switch 2 is using magnets it might be easier for Nintendo to make a dedicated vertical grip for handheld DS play.
Before this video, I didn't understand how the mouse controls would make sense for a DS game. The mockup helped visualize that much better than others could and now Im convinced that'd make a good feature, although I'd personally prefer/hope the pro control has a PS style touch pad for DS games when docked. That'd still be my preference.
I just want nintendo to release an official adapter like the flip grip / TATE mode adapter, to put the joycons on the top and bottom spine of the switch, so you can play ds/3ds games with the screen in portait mode showing the two ds/3ds screens vertically
The mouse can be used for playing Mario Kart Maker.
Hi john! Hope you, and your family are well!
Honestly, switch has always seemed like a perfect handheld to emulate ds/3ds games if Nintendo so wished! With switch 2, they just need to release a magnetically attached vertical mount to snap the new joycona into for portrait mode, and there you go, ds/3ds mode! A bracket already exists for switch 1, so bring it over ninty! Though I'd be happy too for Gamecube on NSO with Animal Crossing 😅
Hopefully, this, and this videos insight, becomes reality!
The Nintendo Switch 2 will have games.
@@InfinitySevens Of course it will Captain Obvious.
Source??
@@No_True_Scotsman It’s a joke
Yup unlike ps5 🥳
@ The PS5 DOES have games!
Was thinking this myself. Yeah, got 3D Land, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks on Switch 2 alongside the rumored WWHD/TPHD ports and you have the ultimate Zelda and Mario machine. Well like you also said 3D Land, NSMB1/2/Wii, and Galaxy 2 are still needed for Mario but imo those are likely too. NSO could and most likely will benefit a lot from this. DS/GCN on standard sub, 3DS/Wii on Expansion Pass (with both probably receiving a $5-$10 increase) and you have a winning formula. Maybe even get SM64 DS on that bad boy.
I can 1-up that: since they're coming back, they could release a 3D display connected to the top USB C port
It still feels like a huge compromise (I personally hate using the mouse when em*lating DS on a PC) but the great part is that this is literally a hand held with a touch screen so touch controlls would 100% be an option and I'd be so excited for that.
I think this would work out a bit better than emulating wirh mouse and keyboard. You'll have the other joycon in tour off hand to better line up with the hand holding your DS, and you could easily shift your grip on the mouse joycon to shift back to using the button controls.
@@Andyjoe522 unless you're playing a game that exclusively uses the touch screen this sounds incredibly fiddly
I wish Switch 2 had a Dual Screen and a Stylus
This optical sensor will be cool for FPS and RTS games on Switch
DS like this will feel like a PC emulator, so I am out...
But I have a working 3DS with a couple DS and 3DS games in my collection
This was my hope the moment I saw that an optical sensor. Second was RTS games like Civ 7 with a mouse OMG
I'm legally obligated to mention the drift that occurs on Switch is actually the os correcting what it thinks is drift. Often it mistakes micro-adjustments as drift and will recenter the camera/cursor. Basically Nintendo created their own drift (also Sony seems to do this too on their systems).
Gyro drift is a thing that occurs but usually after a while due to temperature change and slowly losing track of its position. Gyro drift also looks a lot like stick drift with a continuous movement in a direction. Switch drift is goes for a bit and stops.
Nintendo (and Sony) need to take a lesson from Valve and implement a auto-recalibration system that detects the stableness (aka stillness) of the controller before recalibrating. Hopefully the Switch 2's os deals with that issue.
I felt pretty meh about the mouse mode rumors until the second sideways JoyCon slid onto the screen in the reveal trailer. Two mice seems so obvious in hindsight but really surprised me.
You dont need a mouse to play NDS games when you already have a touch screen
I always thought the switch 1 could have already have DS games, they could have sold a periferal to make the screen vertical and put the joy cons on the sides (3rd party exists already) and then split the screen in two. It already has touch controls
exactly what I thought of when i saw joycons could be used that way, really hope so!
My brain sees a mouse and goes to strategy games. The switch 2 version of civ 7 could be nearly identical to the pc version.
I hope the Switch 2 can be used like the Wii U, so handheld mode and then cast the second screen to the TV.
I mean, my hands are quite large as is, & if a 3rd party company brought out a mouse shaped grip, maybe I’ll get one