I don't want this to come off insulting to anyone but, until I really started learning about verneer from you I always thought it was for cheaper furniture. Some much good info. in this video Jon. Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
Great breakdown video! I've done quite a few speaker cabinets, but nothing as large as this countertop desk I made. Looks pretty straight forward. Thank you!
That claro walnut is gorgeous. I vote for that. Also, I hope that you'll demonstrate how to plan your veneer cuts so that the grain is continuous across the sides and the top, and across the drawer fronts. Thanks for the great videos.
Great tips! Cool furniture! One thing I'd do differently with the box you made is to have the face of the cabinet have trim that is at least as deep as the doors so you don't see the white ply peeking out in the end.
I enjoyed the tutorial, John. I haven't worked with veneers but it seems like a practical alternative to solid wood if you prep your project properly. Also, I vote for the white oak.
Thanks for another great video! Lately I've been building some utility furniture (audio equipment racks) using baltic birch ply with a solid walnut face frame, and the contrast is really nice and makes the walnut stand out even more in my opinion. So my vote is to use the oak veneer for the body and the walnut for some kind of accent or trim!
Great info, Jon~! I'm really looking forward to this "Veneering 101" build you're bringing. Closest I've come to veneering is laminating the top of a router table with formica, so I've got a rough idea of the basics. I'm very interested in trying my hand at this with an actual furniture project. Thanks in advance~!!
I’m trying to cover 2 glass doors with veneer. I’m concerned about adhesion. The doors are about 12 x 28. Would you recommend etching the glass first with etching cream to help with this issue? Thanks
Good morning everyone, I suggest this video about a 175-year-old Walnut tree because I know you’re going to like it. I hope you will check it out leave a comment and subscribe to their channel. I’m excited to work with GL Veneer and create more Veneer projects. Let me know what you think for this next project Walnut, White Oak, or A combination of both. have a great day, Jon ruclips.net/video/mDwHLNUqulY/видео.html
Jon, my vote is walnut. Which ever you choose, I prefer you cover one side, then the top and finally, the other side. This will create, I believe, a very nice continuous run of grain. Good luck and thanks for all of the great videos! Rickster
I was a always afraid of veneer as I was taught it needs to be pressed evenly for a long time after glueing. Now I see it's much easier using contact cement and your video makes me wanting to veneer, thanks a lot, Jon! :)
@@SuperCC112 thanks, I never have and have never had an issue. Maybe for two reasons… One I’m veneering over Plywood and two I’m veneering over a structure like a cabinet… Not just a panel or a top that might be subject to warping. I just remembered that I have vineyard over doors and also haven’t had a problem but again I’m veneering over Plywood
Hey Jon, when looking at the GL website looking at sizes, what thickness are you ordering? Is the 10 and 20 mil paper too thin for this kind of application? Thanks!
Hello Jon, could you describe in your veneering videos how you would go about veneering rounded corners and complex angles? Do you ever use paper templates to work out inside dimensions?
Really looking forward to this series. Great that you're starting out very basic and working up from there. I've never veneered before and I'm sure I'm not alone. I've seen you do it in the past but a good step by step would be super. It's all in the little details for me. Sometimes the simple taken for granted stuff that beginners don't know makes or breaks a project. Thanks for this. Walnut
I just began milling Juglans Hindsii, Northern Calif Black Walnut. I just cut some Gorgeous veneers, around 1/4" thick. I don't know the proper way to cured them. So if someone reads this and knows how to dry them, please tell me! April 6 2023
Thanks for the video. I have mainly been applying veneer prior to assembly. This gives me new ideas! However, I really suggest water-based contact cement. In my opinion, the normal stuff is awful. Small like crazy and keeps releasing VOCs. I have good experience with the 3M but it's expensive so I generally use Wilsonart H2O contact cement.
Hi,Thank you for the wonderful, informative video on Veneers 101. I have some Tuano Ash veneer. Its beautiful. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have before working with it. I plan on doing a smaller project as suggested. :) Helen
I have some Danish modern furniture that is over 50 years but has seen better days. Can they be for a lack of a better term, " re-veneered"? Or somehow repaired ? Thanks, great channel and have been a happy subscriber !!!😃😃😃
Personally, I would never use Bondo. Bondo just does not do well with saltwater. You should always go with the same 2 part filler that you would use for fairing the hull when painting it. Bondo would be used maybe in houses or cars, but has no place on boats.
What else can be used to trim the edges of the vaneer instead or a router tool? Is there a manual tool that can be used instead? A manual wood planing tool maybe? Or will that cause the wood to split if cutting perpendicular to the grain?
Jon - I wonder if you'd ever do a video explaining the differences in veneer options when looking to buy for a project. Like the 10 mil vs 20 mil - when to use one over the other. What is paper backed? PSA? I took at look at the GL website and it was a tad confusing with soooo many options! Some help from a trusted source would be great! Thanks.
Weird question... I have a partial roll of cherry veneer. The other half was apparently used on a piece in the Smithsonian, not relevant but interesting all the Same. So basically I'm building a bar for outdoor use, I have some cherry bar rails and plenty of cherry wood for a bar top but in order to cost save/time save I'm wondering if I can use the veneer on some pine and still manage to use a finish that would weatherproof it. I've only been woodworking for a few years I'm still learning constantly. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Jon, pretty veneer. I was surprised you've used contact cement for many years; I think some of the other authorities out there (like Darryl Keil) say that contact cement is a poor choice for veneer - I think he claims it creeps over time, but I can't recall for sure. You've never had any problems with it?
really great info Jon. What thickness of veneer do you recommend. Locally 0.6mm is sold very often - is that going to be OK? Oh and I vote for Walnut of course.
I'm watching you push on that flat board as you attempt to strengthen the adhesion between the veneer and the project back face and I'm thinking you might "split" the veneer due to too much pressure from the lead edge of the push board. I think the use of the J-roller would be a safer tool to use. Have you experienced any tear-out doing your method? Thanks for the veneer 101, it's very informative.
Excellent video and informative but it seems like an error that you can see the inside of the cabinet around the door reveal when closed. Maybe most don’t notice that? I don’t see many comments but I can’t imagine someone like yourself missed that Jon? I swear I’m not being a RUclips comment hero so if it was intentional please tell me to calm down haha. As I’ve said in previous videos huge fan of yours so don’t take this as anything other than conversation.
This was very informative but did not cover veneering the edges using the sheet product. I would be interested in knowing the specifics of doing this, thanks.
Not a big fan of mid-century modern, but there are many other cases where knowing how to veneer is a needed skill. I usually opt for a veneer trimmer to bring it to size, though. I find it provides an accurate edge, and reduces the need to sand. I've also edge-banded as the final step, so the edge of the veneer is hidden, but we're talking ~ 1/64th here, so probably not such an issue. Great video, though, and the walnut is the winner. :)
It seems walnut and black walnut are really popular, so, I'm going to say white oak so the price of Walnut doesn't go through the roof.😂 Actually, the combo of the two would be a real design challenge that would be really great to see.
I guess I would consider what other pieces of furniture are in the room where the dresser will go. They both look beautiful, but I would pick the one that will compliment the other furniture.
Very good timing for me. In what order would you do the inside of the box. I do the outside just as you did but this will be my first experience doing the interior. Thanks.
I never really considered using it, but you point about the grain on Danish modern furniture has me intrigued. How much does a sheet like the one in front of you go for?
If I’m attaching a wood veneer to a solid wood surface, should I put anything between them? We are trying to put veneer on a dresser after removing the old damaged veneer, and it doesn’t want to stick. Maybe we need another layer of contact cement.
@@JonPetersArtHome Awesome, thank you! Also, I really enjoyed your video. We've been having a hard time finding information on veneers, the local stores don't work with veneers much and didn't have much insight. I really appreciate your feedback!
Great tutorial video. I am wondering about the cost of buying plywood and then veneering the plywood as opposed to buying already veneered plywood. Any comments? I know the choice of veneers is larger than the choice of veneered plywoods. Are there any other advantages of using a venner over a veneered plywood?
Click the link to see which Veneer I picked for the project ruclips.net/video/nIq7IIWKIE0/видео.html
I don't want this to come off insulting to anyone but, until I really started learning about verneer from you I always thought it was for cheaper furniture. Some much good info. in this video Jon. Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
Great breakdown video! I've done quite a few speaker cabinets, but nothing as large as this countertop desk I made. Looks pretty straight forward. Thank you!
Thanks for the comment, I’m glad the video was helpful
White Oak. Very good simple explanations.
Awesome 101 veneer video. I'm going to start applying veneer to my wood work projects.
combination of both veneers please. I'm eager to watch and learn, as I know zero about veneering!
Thanks Jon
That claro walnut is gorgeous. I vote for that. Also, I hope that you'll demonstrate how to plan your veneer cuts so that the grain is continuous across the sides and the top, and across the drawer fronts. Thanks for the great videos.
Great tips! Cool furniture! One thing I'd do differently with the box you made is to have the face of the cabinet have trim that is at least as deep as the doors so you don't see the white ply peeking out in the end.
I enjoyed the tutorial, John. I haven't worked with veneers but it seems like a practical alternative to solid wood if you prep your project properly. Also, I vote for the white oak.
Walnut. Also great video edits between your explanation of a process followed by the actual work being carried out. Very informative.
I would like to see a combination between the two but if only 1 go with oak.
Great tip to PRACTICE! Thanks, Jon. Would love to see the build.
Walnut plz. Although I'm sure to love any build you do
White oak, Jon, or both could be nice. Thank you very much, warm greetings from México.
Thanks, Jon. I’d really like to see you apply your design skills with a combination of both. Cheers, a Danish viewer
Go with the combo of the two!
Would love to see a combo of both.
Id like them together ❤ but Walnut if only one!
Excellent video Jon! I'd for the COMBO idea just to give it a different look.... 👍👍😉😉
Combination of both.
Excellent! Thanks for posting!
Thanks for another great video! Lately I've been building some utility furniture (audio equipment racks) using baltic birch ply with a solid walnut face frame, and the contrast is really nice and makes the walnut stand out even more in my opinion. So my vote is to use the oak veneer for the body and the walnut for some kind of accent or trim!
Jon - I’d like to see your creativity in using a combination of both walnut and white oak. Thanks for all the information.
Quarter-sawn white oak with a Mission style chest of drawers...haven't seen you try that style yet.
Great info, Jon~! I'm really looking forward to this "Veneering 101" build you're bringing. Closest I've come to veneering is laminating the top of a router table with formica, so I've got a rough idea of the basics. I'm very interested in trying my hand at this with an actual furniture project. Thanks in advance~!!
I’m trying to cover 2 glass doors with veneer. I’m concerned about adhesion. The doors are about 12 x 28. Would you recommend etching the glass first with etching cream to help with this issue? Thanks
Combo, but more of white oak. Cheers.
I'm not clear on what you used for the 3/4 trim. Was it veneer also? If it was how did you cut it?
thanks for the video jon!
Good morning everyone, I suggest this video about a 175-year-old Walnut tree because I know you’re going to like it. I hope you will check it out leave a comment and subscribe to their channel.
I’m excited to work with GL Veneer and create more Veneer projects. Let me know what you think for this next project Walnut, White Oak, or A combination of both. have a great day, Jon ruclips.net/video/mDwHLNUqulY/видео.html
Jon, my vote is walnut. Which ever you choose, I prefer you cover one side, then the top and finally, the other side. This will create, I believe, a very nice continuous run of grain. Good luck and thanks for all of the great videos! Rickster
Nice video. White oak!
Walnut is nice but Quarter Sawn White Oak just has a timeless appeal to me - I vote Whit Oak and Walnut Accent
I was a always afraid of veneer as I was taught it needs to be pressed evenly for a long time after glueing. Now I see it's much easier using contact cement and your video makes me wanting to veneer, thanks a lot, Jon! :)
What do you do with the insode of your cabinets especially if you have a dark veneer on the exterior? Thx
White oak or combination please. Everyone does walnut.
Can’t go wrong with either, both are beautiful woods!
Hey Jon. Thanks for another awesome video. Is it not necessary to veneer both inside and outside of the box?
@@SuperCC112 thanks, I never have and have never had an issue. Maybe for two reasons… One I’m veneering over Plywood and two I’m veneering over a structure like a cabinet… Not just a panel or a top that might be subject to warping.
I just remembered that I have vineyard over doors and also haven’t had a problem but again I’m veneering over Plywood
@@JonPetersArtHome okay that sounds awesome. I play to do over plywood myself. Your video is so inspiring. I planned to use your method.
@@SuperCC112 awesome thanks!
How thick is the veneer you use? 10 or 20ml?
Can you apply veneer for painted closet
Hey Jon, when looking at the GL website looking at sizes, what thickness are you ordering? Is the 10 and 20 mil paper too thin for this kind of application? Thanks!
Hello Jon, could you describe in your veneering videos how you would go about veneering rounded corners and complex angles? Do you ever use paper templates to work out inside dimensions?
I have bubbles in the veneer I applied on a door. Can it be fixed
Really looking forward to this series. Great that you're starting out very basic and working up from there. I've never veneered before and I'm sure I'm not alone. I've seen you do it in the past but a good step by step would be super. It's all in the little details for me. Sometimes the simple taken for granted stuff that beginners don't know makes or breaks a project. Thanks for this. Walnut
Walnut !
I vote white oak case with walnut drawers, or accents.
I just began milling Juglans Hindsii, Northern Calif Black Walnut. I just cut some Gorgeous veneers, around 1/4" thick. I don't know the proper way to cured them. So if someone reads this and knows how to dry them, please tell me! April 6 2023
Thanks for the video. I have mainly been applying veneer prior to assembly. This gives me new ideas! However, I really suggest water-based contact cement. In my opinion, the normal stuff is awful. Small like crazy and keeps releasing VOCs. I have good experience with the 3M but it's expensive so I generally use Wilsonart H2O contact cement.
Hi,Thank you for the wonderful, informative video on Veneers 101. I have some Tuano Ash veneer. Its beautiful. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have before working with it. I plan on doing a smaller project as suggested. :) Helen
I have some Danish modern furniture that is over 50 years but has seen better days. Can they be for a lack of a better term, " re-veneered"? Or somehow repaired ?
Thanks, great channel and have been a happy subscriber !!!😃😃😃
Personally, I would never use Bondo. Bondo just does not do well with saltwater. You should always go with the same 2 part filler that you would use for fairing the hull when painting it. Bondo would be used maybe in houses or cars, but has no place on boats.
Walnut has become somewhat over done, beautiful, but over done. I vote White Oak.
Would putting the solid wood edge trim on after the veneer do a better job of covering the edge of the veneer on the top and sides?
I have the same question. Hope he answers this.
What type of backing is your venner. I have done a job with paperback and contact cement and it bubbled after a month have you ever had this problem
Do you have a good video showing beginner router tips? That's the next tool on my wish list but I have no experience.
Since you are a leader, and not a follower, white oak is my vote. There are plenty of RUclipss on the "Walnet".
What else can be used to trim the edges of the vaneer instead or a router tool? Is there a manual tool that can be used instead? A manual wood planing tool maybe? Or will that cause the wood to split if cutting perpendicular to the grain?
Jon - I wonder if you'd ever do a video explaining the differences in veneer options when looking to buy for a project. Like the 10 mil vs 20 mil - when to use one over the other. What is paper backed? PSA? I took at look at the GL website and it was a tad confusing with soooo many options! Some help from a trusted source would be great! Thanks.
Great Idea billy , I will talk to G L veneer and ask to get a few samples to make a video, thanks!
@@JonPetersArtHome I’m wondering the same thing. I am brand new to veneer and would love to get into it.
Weird question... I have a partial roll of cherry veneer. The other half was apparently used on a piece in the Smithsonian, not relevant but interesting all the Same. So basically I'm building a bar for outdoor use, I have some cherry bar rails and plenty of cherry wood for a bar top but in order to cost save/time save I'm wondering if I can use the veneer on some pine and still manage to use a finish that would weatherproof it. I've only been woodworking for a few years I'm still learning constantly. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
I probably wouldn’t use veneer for outdoor projects
don't try to apply contact cement outside on a windy day with a cheap roller, trust me
I'd love to see both used! Thank you for all the great videos
Thanks for the advice. I'll be checking out more of your work. Its a really helpful to get experienced information to utilise in my work
Glad to hear it, thanks!
Can I use titebond 3 instead of the glue you showed?
Hi Jon, pretty veneer. I was surprised you've used contact cement for many years; I think some of the other authorities out there (like Darryl Keil) say that contact cement is a poor choice for veneer - I think he claims it creeps over time, but I can't recall for sure. You've never had any problems with it?
Is it a bad idea to use a trim router on a larger veneer project?
good info. question: how to you flatten back a cabinet door's corner edge that has bulged due to kettle steam ?
thanks
really great info Jon. What thickness of veneer do you recommend. Locally 0.6mm is sold very often - is that going to be OK? Oh and I vote for Walnut of course.
What oil did you use n that walnut cabinet?
I'd prefer to do the project with the white oak.
I'm watching you push on that flat board as you attempt to strengthen the adhesion between the veneer and the project back face and I'm thinking you might "split" the veneer due to too much pressure from the lead edge of the push board. I think the use of the J-roller would be a safer tool to use. Have you experienced any tear-out doing your method? Thanks for the veneer 101, it's very informative.
Excellent video and informative but it seems like an error that you can see the inside of the cabinet around the door reveal when closed. Maybe most don’t notice that? I don’t see many comments but I can’t imagine someone like yourself missed that Jon? I swear I’m not being a RUclips comment hero so if it was intentional please tell me to calm down haha. As I’ve said in previous videos huge fan of yours so don’t take this as anything other than conversation.
This was very informative but did not cover veneering the edges using the sheet product. I would be interested in knowing the specifics of doing this, thanks.
Not a big fan of mid-century modern, but there are many other cases where knowing how to veneer is a needed skill. I usually opt for a veneer trimmer to bring it to size, though. I find it provides an accurate edge, and reduces the need to sand. I've also edge-banded as the final step, so the edge of the veneer is hidden, but we're talking ~ 1/64th here, so probably not such an issue. Great video, though, and the walnut is the winner. :)
It seems walnut and black walnut are really popular, so, I'm going to say white oak so the price of Walnut doesn't go through the roof.😂 Actually, the combo of the two would be a real design challenge that would be really great to see.
Go for the combo!
Hey Jon. Some acoustic absorption panels will be great to improve the speech intelligibility in your shop for the videos.
I have had veneer creep over time that was done with contact adhesive,this is not a good method and I’m saying it gently,good luck
I guess I would consider what other pieces of furniture are in the room where the dresser will go. They both look beautiful, but I would pick the one that will compliment the other furniture.
Very good timing for me. In what order would you do the inside of the box. I do the outside just as you did but this will be my first experience doing the interior. Thanks.
Can’t you get oak veneered plywood? I would think that would be my first try, and then you would not need to use veneer in the first place
A combination of both would be nice Jon, nice contrast I think anyway have a nice day and Stay Safe !!!.
I never really considered using it, but you point about the grain on Danish modern furniture has me intrigued. How much does a sheet like the one in front of you go for?
Hi John can you also talk about the different types of backing and glues? Thanks
Jon when and why did you switch your compound miter saw from Bosch to Festool? Thanks
Old guy here says Walnut
What is your thoughts on finishing the inside of the cabinet? Try to match veneer color? Leave as is?
If you weren't using paper-backed veneer, would you still use contact adhesive?
If I’m attaching a wood veneer to a solid wood surface, should I put anything between them? We are trying to put veneer on a dresser after removing the old damaged veneer, and it doesn’t want to stick. Maybe we need another layer of contact cement.
I always use two coats of contact cement… The first one tends to absorb into the wood… so yes another coat might be what you need.
@@JonPetersArtHome Awesome, thank you! Also, I really enjoyed your video. We've been having a hard time finding information on veneers, the local stores don't work with veneers much and didn't have much insight. I really appreciate your feedback!
Could you do a video on router setup and technique for cutting veneers with flush cut bit?
Hi Jon! What about the interior of the furniture? It is suitable to use veneers there? Thank you!
I was gonna just say walnut until you mentioned possibly using a combination of both ;)
I vote for COMBINATION. Thanks for the great first lesson!
I was going with Walnut. But then you said maybe a combination of both. I vote both! I really want to see both of them together.
I like the walnut color 😍 and I love watching your videos. They are great tutorials 😘❤️
I got to go with the white oak
Great tutorial video. I am wondering about the cost of buying plywood and then veneering the plywood as opposed to buying already veneered plywood. Any comments? I know the choice of veneers is larger than the choice of veneered plywoods. Are there any other advantages of using a venner over a veneered plywood?
I love the look of the Walnut, so I'm gonna say White Oak - It would be nice to see the 'box' in Oak for a change.
thanks for sharing..a very good basics on veneer handlings..
Walnut please :) Looking forward to following along!
Love your content that you post. I would like to see you use the White Oak as I feel that Walnut has been the dominant wood for some time.
Walnut or combo would be great to see. Thanks for the information!