6 Ways to cover plywood edges - Which do you think is best??
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
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I love many things about your videos: you talk (too many guys act like everyone knows what they're doing and why), you're funny without being contrived, you're honest, you admit that you can and do make mistakes, and your videos are not tool shows where you try to show us all your cool tools and convince us that we need just one more tshotshke. Thanks!
Haha glad you like it! Thanks!
"tshotshke" - thanks for teaching me a new word!
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The delivery of this video was as seamless as those edges. Damn, even the sponsor mentions blended right in. Amazing work Tamar!
Ha glad you liked it!
She's a natural! 👍 Great information!
For real though, that was extremely professional.
This popped up on my RUclips recommended. So happy I clicked, I do a little edge banding on plywood, I use glued timber edging mainly for basic workshop units to withstand wear and tear, but nice to see other options for nice stuff. Thanks from the UK
Glad you liked it!
You are inspiring on so many levels. I love how you open a dialog with us as viewers and take us with you. I always feels so involved and I learn more from your teaching style than anyone else on RUclips. You are amazing
That’s so awesome to hear! Thanks!
@@3x3CustomTamar Great Video! The presentation was well orchestrated with good pace, but not so fast that the audience misses out on key facts. This video is going into my permanent library. Thanks, Patrick
Patrick Heinig awesome to hear! Thanks!
This is quickly becoming my favorite DIY/woodworking channel. I was actually looking for a way to not empty my wallet on high-end hardwoods for a project, and still make it look like a classy cabinet. You inspired me to experiment with this!
Awesome! So glad it was helpful!
Another benefit to your video library. I'm making some folding tables with some off cuts I got from the community wood shop to include some high end plywood. Now I have a few methods to cover the exposed edges. These videos are timeless. Thanks again.
idk if it really is, but it seems like such a huge flex to be able to say that WD-40 sponsors this channel hahah
Haha 🤘
Wd 40 is nowhere near my shop....it's a nightmare if you get it on the saw because it gets all over everything and your finish will still fish eye and separate even if it's been several days since it was used and you can't even see it
Yeah that's legit. I can't imagine whoever is behind WD-40 knowing who I am... Or giving me money
Its a big flex : )
I know a lot of people don’t know this… You can spray WD-40 on tar, And it will remove it from clothing. W 40 has many uses, the least of all is lubricating
This was a fantastic tutorial . I love the last V-groove with the miter joint . strong and clean . Thank you so much Tamar for these videos . Wood working for the whole family is great .
So glad you liked it. Thanks!
You always seem to find such interesting alternate ways of doing things and that adds so much to the quality of your videos. Thank you so much for all the effort it takes to create these. I know that there is a BUNCH of work done off camera to make them so professional. I also like the way you integrated the Audible commercial seamlessly. It is SO much better than the jarring way others get thrust at you...so in your face and jarring to the flow of the video. Love your work. Thank you.
I really appreciate the feedback! Thanks!
Those bits would make great joints for cabinet door paneling. Great find.
Great video Tamar, my personal preference is the combination "tongue and groove" and " V groove"... it makes the edge look natural, and is very strong. Can't wait to try it out on a project I'm doing.
I use a lot of plywood and your tips will take my projects to the next level. That router bit set is brilliant! Thank you 👍😎🇦🇺
Awesome. So glad it was helpful
What I love about this channel is your willingness to let us explore with you. Not just be lectured at.
So glad you like it!
thank goodness i read your comment again 😂✌️
I also love that she didn't sand the joints before showing us at the end. Most of the YT wood channel presenters would sanded, filled with sawdust and glue, and sanded again. Tamar gave us an honest look at how the joints really look without cleaning them up.
Well put.
All you need is $30k of equipment to apply the same quality as this beautiful lady does! :-)
I don't have a router table. But I think the v cut method with the table saw is my best choice given all the methods you demo. I tried it. Used wood glue and clamps. Worked great with 3/4" plywood and pine board. Thanks for the idea!
That was a very helpful and comprehensive video covering all methods of edge banding. This retired cabinet/furniture maker was always skeptical using iron on veneers and only started using that type of veneer when melamine was required for a project. Forty years later I was pleasantly surprised that those iron on veneers are still holding up. I later started using iron on veneers for plywood and never had a failure but only use them for shelf edges and never for exposed outside edges on doors or cabinet boxes with inset doors.
Glad you liked it. Yeah. It definitely depends on the allocation. I was testing this out for doors that would see a bit of abuse.
Thanks, that was very inspiring. I love to think of different solutions to a problem.
Thanks! It’s always fun to experiment!
As a cabinet builder we use most of the technics you showed mostly on doors but we have an edge bander machine that uses hot melt glue veneer banding that will do hundreds of doors very quickly, very strong because you literally have to use the machine to remove the edge band .
Nice demo 👌
I believe this video and content is aimed at the home shop.
@@Joesmith-fu4ps I apply edgeband with a clothes iron, it's easy!
I personally do NOT like edge banding. especially for furniture that has to deal with water or any other liquids. tables, underside of doors, countertops. often I get called in to replace the existing (or non) edge band as it has come away from the table top or door.
i'm a cabinet builder and using an edge banding machine is efficient for a production standpoint but not the most durable. It's still sufficient for most cabinets.
Great video thanks! In the end I decided not to use any of these methods (just went with a varnish coating for a plywood-based bike lockup) but I'm sure I'll make use of some of them in the future. That last combo bit set method was particularly interesting.
Your channel and a couple other channels have are a saving grace. I have barely any room to do wood working so I'm constrained to a hand router, a miter saw and a portable table saw. I didn't know with a little innovation you can do so much with just a table saw! Now I'm using it as a planer, cutting small logs, joinery...
Thank you.
Awesome to hear!
Wow! This is the kind of content I didn't know I wanted until I saw it. RUclips recommendations are not always useless.
Ha. So glad you liked it
Until you "saw" it 😁
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Thank you. I always love (good!) options. Appreciate seeing so many in 1 video 💥✌
Glad you liked it! It was a fun experiment
Thanks for the great video Tamar! I'm a newby and started working with plywood boards for a cabinetry project so your video on edging options is just what I needed.
Complement: YOU explained very well all details needed to reproduce your project. Even pausing to instruct what you were ABOUT to do AND WHY. That is HOW to produce a Quality RUclips video. Please take this to Heart and continue. You are making a difference.
So glad you liked it. Thanks!
Super informative, thank you for this video. While watching, it occurred to me that you could also leave some extra material with most of these edges and then use a router bit to leave a nice rounded specialty edge. Thanks again Tamar! 😊
For sure! Thanks!
This is my new favorite youtube channel! Great work both in the shop and with the camera.
So awesome to hear. Thanks!
Brilliant. I am learning about plywood edging and watched a bunch of videos. Your ideas are way better than any others I've seen.
This is the first video by Tamar I have seen. Definitely won't be the last. She just might just be the best youtube creator I have seen yet. Well thought out explanations with great detail and the great editing left zero wasted time. Even the sponsorship wasn't just a few boring minutes but her project was incorporated. I'm geeking out right now 🤩
Haha glad you like it!
I used the spline method last year on a wrap around desk for my wife - worked great and is really strong. I think the edge banding bit set has the best outcome, but until I do more edge banding, the price is not quite right. Love your videos and even your product plugs are pleasant (certainly MUCH better than other videos with ads breaking in). You got a subscribe because of that, haha.
Awesome to hear
Great video with a lot information. I've never known there are so many ways to do edge banding. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you liked it! With woodworking there’s always more than one way. Ha
I wish I could have your confidence with my tools, life goals. Thanks for the video, you rock.
Hoy aprendí algo nuevo en cuanto a los bordes de la madera terciada, gracias por compartir su video.
Great video. While not as strong, that cutting the veneer off the plywood was a cool solution. I've never seen that one before.
Thanks! I thought it would be pretty useful in some situations!
If one side of the plywood will be hiden, you could also do a triangle strip of plywood material. Similar to a self return on moulding.
@@BenMarvin Yeah, was thinking the same thing. If it's on a lower shelf that can't be seen. The grain will sort of match too.
"I should probably do a test cut first...but I won't..." Story of my life! I'm always like, "I'm sure it'll be fine!" :D Great video!
Hahaha! It doesn’t always work out that well
What if you make a mistake? Wood doesn't grow on trees you know! 😂🤣😅
I cut my piece 8 times and it's still too short.
Richard Hatt story of my life. Wife: thought you were staining that? Me: I though paint would look better....(talks to self) thank God for wood filler🤣
great ideas!! Very informative. I too prefer the tongue and groove method for better strength and look. I enjoyed your video. You have given my husband and I food for thought for our next projects! I look forward to your next video!
Hi Tamar,
Thanks for showing the various edge banding options. Very cool.
And I love your enthusiasm for the trade.
Thanks again!
When you have 15 layers or more it's cool to just put a half inch radius and finish it that way with all the layers exposed.
Can I just say I love seeing a lady doing this? women perspective and approach is definitely different than men and I love to see this diversity, and I simply learn better, please keep up the good work
While taking a brief moment away from my graduate studies, I needed to visit 2 of my favorite sites. Naturally, you’re one of them. Writing purely as a layman, I must say, “You are an Educator!” I am learning much! Thank you! Semper Fi
Awesome to hear! Thanks!
This was so cool to watch! Thank you for sharing. Great ideas for covering up plywood edge.
So glad you liked it
2:20 🤓 this is the first time I saw an electric router lift and it's amazing!
Ha. Yup! It’s awesome
Electric router lift --wow-- hopefully it speeds up set up --hate spending so much time in setup
Yeah! I need that thing in my life.
@@3x3CustomTamar Would love to hear more about your general router table setup, including which router and lift you are using. I've see the table/fence linked to on your website, but could not find other details.
Chris Malone it’s from mlcs woodworking
I enjoy your content but,
I'm really here for the outtros
:)
Good demonstration, Thanx
Hahaha! Such a scary moment. Thanks!
Tamar, you've got it going on. I'm not a woodworker but every once in a while I get a bug to do a small project.
This is one topic I was really interested in and I believe you've given me just the idea I need. Thanks.
Awesome
awesome tips...I love the result from the edge banding bit set. I've been scratching my head about how I wanted to handle this sort of thing for a project I am about to start. Now I have my answer thanks!
Awesome. Glad it was helpful!
Once an elder wise man told me that carpentry can be considered one of art lines, you have done a grate job there, and very talented .
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Liked how you did the Audible pitch while showing the glue ups
Glad you liked it
I really love the last method I believe it the best choice it a strong bond bec it laying at an angle n it inter lock into each other bec it lay on top of each other at that angle it a perfect tight lock and it look good perfect good job
I really like how you integrated your sponsor in a way that fit right into the rest of the video and included a tip. Kudos!
Awesome. Glad you liked it
It’s nice to have multiple ways to do edgebanding. Depending on how the part is used/viewed would determine the method. ie s shelf vs the edge of a cabinet or the top of a drawer vs the edge of a dining table....
You use plywood for a dining table? Cabinets and shelving sure, but a dining table?
The router ones (including the v grove one) are my favorites cause I would rather use the router, and it being flush is rather neat.
Then again, the most fashion way to make it flush is to not make if flush, but make it look like decorative detailing. Say a dark frame around a light top or vice versa (needs not be straight, or contained to the border). Filling, smooth sanding and painting the edges, and only the edges, might be an option for adding a dash of color while hiding the edges too. At any pace, as long as it looks like its an intentional design element, that is how people will look at it.
Yup! Tons of different options for different looks!
If you are slightly oversized you can sand it down after. I just prefer to use strips of about quarter inch to one inch for edging.
If you are using it for a modern style hinge on a modern cabinet small strips are strong enough when glued on. You can even use a thicker strip with profiled edges if you want.
V groves would be strong but probably overkill to be honest but then again it all depends on what you want it for. If you want the edge to structural then V groove or tongue and groove is he way to go.
@@bighands69 With V grooves the thing I like the most is time of production. With the right(ish) gear and set up, you can do it all pretty fast, nice and easy.
Thank you! That was a great way to edge band. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Glad you liked it. Thanks!
Great video. Happen to be building a cabinet at the moment, and just rewatched your video before edge banding my shelving. Thanks for sharing, always enjoy your tutelage!
Awesome! Good luck with your project!
You could do the v groove with plywood to get strength and a perfect match
Great video, always learn something new, and this time it was stripping the veneer layer off the plywood for banding.
A couple of other methods I've used in the past:
1. Biscuits - Quick and easy (just uses a hand-held tool), but not super strong. Kind of in between the glue-only and spline examples you showed.
2. 45 degree miter lock router bit - while normally used for miters, I use it when you don't want a seam on the top surface. Nice because it's a single bit that does both pieces (very cool the first time you see it). Use a sacrificial piece to prevent tear-out.
Thanks! Yeah. That’s a cool trick. I like the miter lock idea!
Great thing about the edge band bits are you can use them to join cutting boards and other items. Thanks for the tips and videos! Keep up the great woodwork!
Yeah! For sure! Thanks!
You freaking have all the good ideas! Nice work.
Glad you like it!
My favourite, just veneer the main surfaces of the plywood after adding the edging then trim down for a seamless finish. For extra smarts do the ends with end grain edging, then it looks like a solid board unless closely inspected. Most people need it specially pointing out its not solid wood, and then explaining how you can tell...
I have never seen end grain veneer. I have made my own when appropriate to a job. I will be looking for that stuff.
The "Oh Shit" moment at the end earned my like haha and the useful joinery tips too I guess
Haha! Glad you liked it.
That part killed my ears. The beeps were so much louder than the voice work 😵🙉
@@vschwenoha agreed... had my volume all the way up to hear her voice and when the beeps hit it blew my ears out. Great video but please check volume levels in post-production.
I saw the video today for the first time and I think it's great! The last method shown and also preferred by you is super and also offers some more possibilities, for example, slightly round off the edge or mill a profile. Great video, thank you very much!
Glad you like it!
I'm listening to the same book while working! Highly recommend it. Thank you for the informative video.
Haha! Awesome!
Hi Tamar ! Thanks for the video ! One easy technique I would encourage you to try if you haven't yet, it to cut a 45° strip all alont the edge of the plywood, taking care that the exterior of the blade contacts the edge of the board whose edge you want to hide, and just take the small strip (which should be a triangle with two sides' length = thickness of the board and 1 side 45° cut) and just rotate it 180° and glue it back.
Then the facinf of the ply is facing out and the edge it facing down. It's a really cool look !
I would love to see a video of this, is there a name for this technique that I could search for?
Just when I was wondering how to put an edge on my plywood. You turned up with this video. Thank you. PS What sort of plywood did you use in this video because I want to buy some where I live.
Looks like birch its about $50-60 a sheet great for paint or stain.
It’s Baltic Birch plywood also known European cabinet plywood.
I like the edging on the ply wood trick. Nicely done. I like the look of plywood on the edge.
I don't own a tablesaw . I see it may be useful.
I just watched the first 3 minutes so I will watch the rest.
Thanks for sharing your talent!
Loved the router set up
I honestly detest spending time edge banding so I normally adjust my design to avoid the need for them but nice video :)
Ha! Thanks
I tend to agree, Tony.
If you can't bury the plywood edges in your project, go with solid wood. The price differential is not worth the extra work involved!
Great video running through the options.
I showed my wife so we could talk about the finish we wanted on a project I'm working on. her comment was "wow, she must get so much sawdust caught in that curly hair"
So I have to ask, do you tuck it all under the beanie when cutting in the shop?
I get sawdust and wood shavings in my beard all the time.
Hahaha! Yeah. I wear my bear up in a bun when I’m actually using my tools. 😂
excellent video. learned something very useful. What was really seamless was the way you incorporated pitching the products without loosing a beat. Excellent job.
Haha! Glad you thought so. Thanks!
Thanks - I am getting back into woodworking after about 30+ years and I saved this video as something I'll refer back to in the future. Subscribed...mainly because you're OCD detail oriented as I am.
Hahah!
Full Round, Glue in Dowel : )
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My second comment: Since that bit set lined up the edges so well, I wonder if it could also be used for edge jointing to align small table top panels, etc. for clue up. Just a thought.
It would be a lot like having biscuits all along the edge, wouldn't it?
Yeah totally!
Your're totally right sir.
Sometimes the choice of the method (or the choice of the right router bit set) depends on other aspects.
Using this bit set for your purpose whoul surely produce a stronger (and more durable) joint than biscuits, but be aware that it will need some additional care in calculating the exact final width of the boards.
By the way, it is an awesome method!
Mark Bryan, I love this idea. I have a project on my list to do a kitchen table top mission style and I am going to use your idea.
@@dennisbennett7274 What's the mission style?
Great roundup of the different styles. I've had good luck with the Whiteside 3400 set. All the shop furniture I've made has been edge banded for strength and durability. Definitely worth the cost and time for the results you get.
I really liked the shortcut you did on the tablesaw to get the same result. Very clever!
Thanks! It’s such a cool bit set
This is the first video of yours I've seen. I'm working on a walnut media console and couldn't figure out how best to conceal the edges. The tongue and groove with angles is going to be perfect. I really like that you showed multiple solutions so I could determine compare and settle on what's best for my current project. The way you explain the pros and cons as you go and your general approach to woodworking makes learning more comfortable. I'll be checking out your other videos for advice as I navigate the pass from novice to intermediate. Thanks and cheers!
Awesome to hear! Good luck with your project!
I would like to know more about your router, router table, and lift.
It’s from MLCS woodworking
@@3x3CustomTamar looks like a great setup
@@3x3CustomTamar Thanks for the info! I'll check them out.
@@3x3CustomTamar could you make a video making shaker style cabinet doors with your router...something novice individuals. PLEASE
Richard Benson it is!
Not sure why the Almighty algorithm showed me this channel, but I enjoyed it and subscribed.
Good to see the tape instead of clamp. I've had a great builder work on my house for years, and he uses tape this way for all kinds of repairs, such as splits and chip outs, and always has worked great.
Really cool methods. I love how you explore and show multiple techniques, which allows people with varying tool sets to still achieve results.
Glad you like it!
Interesting stuff. But just as I can't walk and talk without dragging my knuckles. I can't listen to music when I'm concentrating on cuts. I wear ear defenders to reduce noise but still like to hear what's going on with the tool.
And he's okaayyy!!
Camera goes splat..
Due to tool constraints, I like the simple face glue of some solid material. Not a fan of the iron on stuff.
Haha! Such a scary moment. I’ve successfully used that method for a ton of projects
Just wow.... Love your channel, so glad i clicked on RUclips's recommendation. You're a huge source of inspiration. 👏👏👏
So awesome to hear! Thanks!
Great ideas! Thanks for sharing. I’m the old school with the glue-on edgebanding but now will try the tongue and groove method.
Awesome
Super informative! As the seam between the 2 pieces will always be visible, could you not make the "plywood shelf" an inch deeper, then, cut off an inch from the side you want to cover to be the edge banding. and use that cut off as the edge?
It would be like a "waterfall edge" as you put the two pieces together, matching not only color but grain pattern.
That’s a pretty cool idea
I might be understanding you wrong, but wouldn't that create 4 other sides that showed the raw plywood?
@@williamt1083 I don't think so: you wouldn't be using the full one inch of the cut off piece, but similar to.... (see 0:53 in the video)
So, THAT veneer would mate to the TOP veneer but continue the color and grain pattern.
resin is easily removed from the bits - just soak them in drain cleaner for 5 minutes and you can easily wipe off the resin
if she did that , then she wouldn't have the support of WD-40 product.
Some cleaners will damage the carbide, I heard. A lot of people use Simple Green, oven cleaner, and a few other things. Also, I heard laundry detergent works well.
Marty Fried both laundry detergent and oven cleaners contains lot of different chemicals as well as enzymes. I would not recommend these products as you never know exactly what is in them. Drain cleaner is (at least in Denmark) pure Sodium Hydroxide, NaOH, dissolved in water. You can buy this as crystals and make your own solution. NaOH will not do any harm to the carbides...
Good presentation. You nailed the whole of plywood edge finishing in under 20 and it told me everything I needed to know.
Great job!
Thanks so much! Glad you found it informative
Wish I had all those router bits, looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for all the ideas.
Yeah, I never liked using thin veneer on edging either. I always thought it was cheap and tacky.
Agree. I never found it good enough
It is..
Where'd u get your hat
You can go with a 45° Cut with the other cut so the other will make the board look thicker.
In no way does will that make a board look wider.
@@leonardhall7203 but it will make the board look THICKER.
@@dennisschickling5759 no, no it doesn't. I don't know why you think that. It only has one advantage which is more glueable surface which is a stronger bond.
@@leonardhall7203 if you have the flat board at 8 inches the one side cut at a 45° the other board at 3 inches also cut at a 45° and glue up the 2 45° together. The side profile will LOOK Like the board is 3 inches thick.
@@dennisschickling5759 no it doesn't. you're delusional. I'm not going to argue with crazy. Have a good day.
I subscribe to a lot of DIY and woodworker sites just for entertainment and some ideas (I am NOT a woodworker, metalworker or any other type of handy-artist). Just gotta say, you are the most natural screen presence, best information/idea source and professional out there. Ok, maybe tied with one or two. But you do a great job of educating, demonstrating and encouraging folks like me.
Thanks! Keep doing good stuff!
That’s so awesome to hear! Thanks so much!
I'm pretty sure I'm in love......
Any form of sensory deprivation is potentially hazardous, not only for or to you but more importantly to others who are casualties.
Hearing and eye protection important. lets not conflate them with means of entertainment
Or you could worry about your shop and she will worry about hers
Nice, narration and I like that you don't play music in the background (not afraid of silence) I like hearing the sounds made in the creation process in the shop. Good quality video. I like that you gave enough explanation for the people who may not know much in wood working but not so much that a more experienced audience would not get bored (I think you found the right balance).
That’s so awesome to hear! Thanks so much for the feedback!
You hun are amazing love ur work really helpful since I use a lot of plywood n ur video definitely helps me eliminate the edge problem thank u so much
To find a woman like you would be a dream come true. Intelligent, handy and beautiful. 😍😍😍😍
poor mans clamps,,, ratchet straps work very well.. things you tie stuff down on a pick up.
Wow, this is perfect because I was planning on edging a 3ft x 6ft plywood sheet.
Thanks
I love your channel Tamar. Your videos are without a doubt some of the very best on RUclips. Your descriptions are clear, detailed and most of all interesting. I also appreciate how you make comparisons then tell us Why you prefer one option over another. Thanks for all the great videos and tutorials. You should consider teaching in a community college trade program. I'm sure your classes would be packed every semester. And it certainly doesn't hurt that you are the most beautiful woodworker on the internet :>). Cheers!
Great video Tamar! I had no idea there were so many options for edge-banding
Thanks Michael! There are always so many options for everything 😂
i agree with your edge band challenge, however its never a good idea to share attention when using power tools or driving for that matter. each require undivided attention, Its not fun having your digits reattached... trust me i know.
Rub it on your chest liberal
So no radio when you drive??
lol I'm guessing you probably can't chew bubble gum at and walk at the same time too? xD
@@mattfairfield9103 Presumptive...lol. Considering my injury was CAUSED by an inattentive earbud wearing space cadet.
@@joshcreager1140 Certainly. However I wouldn't expect you to understand.
Why am I watching this?
I don't even have a hand saw
Not sure. But glad you’re here 😉
Edge banding bit set FTW! Also, love the electric router lift!
Such an awesome bit set. And yeah. The router lift is awesome 🤘☺️
I love that vee groove tongue and groove idea!!
I dont like edge banding,i use plywood as it is or all solid wood
I think a lot of time is wasted,so the client get an inferior result at almost the same price!
I might loose a bit of money but the client is happy for a long time!
I have loads of custom 50mm open edge ply for all window sills! Everyone comes around loves it!
@@FiscalWoofer it looks so good when rounded or bevelled, making a feature of it, especially when stained up and varnished