Growing Potatoes | Chitting Potatoes | Growing in 30 ltr buckets | Testing Time | Green Side Up
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Growing Potatoes | Chitting Potatoes | Growing in 30 ltr buckets | Testing Time | Green Side Up
In todays video I discuss the merits of chitting potatoes against the more traditional way and also about growing potatoes in 30 ltr buckets and whether to use 2 or 4 tubers per bucket. Then I discuss a test I will run to find out and show me the way forward.
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Growing Potatoes | Chitting Potatoes | Growing in 30 ltr buckets | Testing Time | Green Side Up
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awesome video Steve. Potatoes were actually the first learning experience for me when I was a newbie. I copied Monty, like so many folks... and learned fast that our timings in Scotland are very different and I couldn't just copy Monty, I needed to learn from other gardeners in my local and learn about temperatures etc. All valuable learning and it's stood me well today for all my gardening fun 😀
Love to see all the fab videos you are doing sharing your years of experience 😀
I have not experimented with bucket potatoes, so will be keen to see your results. I agree with you regarding overcrowding your potatoes, as I have said I have no evidence, my logic is the leaves are the engines that make sugar in a plant. Sugars are converted into starch and stored in the potato. There is a limited amount of space for the leaves in a bucket. Therefore adding more tubers will lead to sharing the available leaf space available between the plants, so less sugar per plant which leads to smaller tubers without a significant if any increase in harvest overall. Therefore you are right to try and find the optimum planting scheme.
Steve several years ago when dad was alive early summer asked if I had any seed spuds left, I looked in my shed and I had 2 scabby looking spuds with long stragley of shoots, he planted in a bucket, they were massive and split the bucket! Sometimes don't over think it! An old farmer in our village put loads of spuds in a dark barn, they looked like straggly aliens, he just sowed them like that and always had a crop to sell!
To make it a bit more fair could you run the trial the other way around so you have some of each at the front where the sun gets to the pot, I find that a pot that is getting direct sun on it produces a 30% better yield due to it been warmer than the pot behind of the same variety. I have always chitted all my potatoes for two reasons, 1, if you can keep them frost free they do come up a couple of weeks earlier and if you are suspect to blight this can make a difference on the yield by getting an extra two weeks growth and if we have a wet spring it can help to stop some tubers from rotting before they pock there heads through, I put 4 earlies in a pot, 3 second Earlies and 2 main crop in a 30 litre pot, look forward to seeing your results on this trial, many thanks for sharing, enjoy your week, kind regards
alan……………THE DAWN CHORUS PLOT 🌿
Steve, i planted out all my spuds last year, half Chitted and the other half un Chitted, both first earlies ,second earlies and main crop varieties.Not for any reason apart from not getting all my seed potatoes at the same time!I can honestly say i saw no real difference,so this year im not Chitting at all, im just going to plant them out when the time seems right. But i did put a few good inches of well rotted horse manure in the bottom of each container and that seemed to make a big difference!So this year i will be planting my main crop varieties earlier than before, due to trying to beat the blight!I am still harvesting spuds as we speak and have at least 20 containers still to pick.But i totally agree with what you say about too many tubers in one pot! I leave all my spuds in the pots and pick them as and when i want them! I picked some second earlies(if there`s such a thing) the other day and yes they were bigger than if i would have picked them ages ago,but they are perfect.The only other thing i did wrong was not to mulch the pots up enough,!This year they will be mulched and mulched again with fresh grass clippings.Keep up the great work and stay safe.Shaun.
Looking forward to seeing your results Steve, good luck 👍 😀
I don’t chit seed potatoes anywhere cool dark and frost free Steve (0:50), cool light and frost free yes, otherwise you end up with weak long white sprouts.
Light helps to keep chits short and dark in colour which is ideal, especially for first and second earlies. 😉
Hi Steve like you we have grown four in a bucket and three even which works for vals new salad potatoes she likes smaller, but two have worked best for second and main which we will be going back to this season . Stay safe Bill and val
Ahhh to chit or not to chit that is the question 👨🎨
I’m on the side of chitting but still a couple of weeks to wait for up here on the frozen north 🥶
Yes then Steve 👍👍👍
I just wanted to thank you for the inspiration to get me into greenhouse / raised bed growing, I have been watching your very informative superb videos for some time now and your great delivery / production makes for easy viewing....I hope that you don't mind but I call it 'brain porridge' viewing as its very absorbing and relaxing...well done and keep up the great work!
I love how you teach Steve. Explaining every step is so important for novices like me. Thank you! 🙂
I get my seed potatoes early, so put them out in egg boxes to stop they growing spidery shoots which break off. My first buckets i put in 4 spuds to get lots of small 'new potatoes', then fewer seeds in later sowings to get larger spuds which last better. I have to say I put in two large handfuls of feed - i figure this is cheaper because I reuse last year's compost rather than buying new.
I'll join you by experimenting this year.
I had good success last year with Sarpo Mira in 30ltr buckets. Good yield, but much smaller than the ones grown in ground. This year I'm trying some Pink Fir Apple as I like the taste! Always experimenting & love the 'treasure hunt' of harvesting potatoes!
Great video Steve, are you wearing that coat for a bet?😂
Morning Steve 😂😂 my potatoes chit themselves under the cupboard, but if the huge potato farmers don’t chit theirs who am I to think I’ve got a better way. Thank you for sharing 👍🇨🇦🐝 safe
4 seed works very well for 1st and 2nd earlier there are reasons which I will cover in a video. but I would only ever sow 2 seed for main crop. you should be pulling 10-15lb from 2 seed on main crop per bucket
Yes for determinates that only grow on one level it is a good strategy, it's the indeterminates I am testing Tony and I have seen so many folk growing four to a bucket in that area, hence my test with Sarpo Miras...Steve...😃
I follow both you Steve and you Tony and now am faces with do I plant 2 or 4 first earlies in my buckets? I was going to do 4 as per Tony's advice, but your info Steve makes very good sense to not go that way! So, Tony and Steve, what do I do? I'm growing Casablanca in a 50ltr (40cm x 40cm) bag. Help me please gents!
@@PhilC74 Hi Phillip, mine and Tony's advice are the same, 2 tubers in a 30 liter pot for maincrops. I am only testing the four tubers per pot because I have seen many gardeners do that in recent years, and I have never tried that myself. Casablanca are a first early so you can layer 4 tubers in a pot if you wish. I am only testing maincrop potatoes this year...Steve...😃
@@GreenSideUp sorry Steve, thought you were referring to first earlies aswell. Thanks for the clarification and good luck with the trials, will be interesting to see the results although I would edge my bets on the 2 per bucket being the best result. Thanks for the vid Steve and the quick reply.
Take care
Phil 👍👨🌾
As always great video Steve and well explained so appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us 👍
Thanks Steve very well thought out and explained kind regards rog
Great video Steve very helpful.
great video thank you - i can never get enough help take care
Very interesting Steve. Can’t wait to see the results of this. Great video & nicely executed - even your maths made sense 🤣
Hi Steve, Greetings from Windermere, Florida zone 9b 🇺🇸
We are having our "chill time", 44° this morning and possibly 34°F tomorrow ❄🥶❄
I've never tried potatoes 🥔 but I did try Sweet potato this year and they did well.
You really presented the info well.
Wow! You must have a huge yield of potatoes 🥔
Last year I tried both. Same kind, planted on the same day, identical soil, but found only 1 week earlier to show if chitted, but then by week 3 all were identical. Its more temperature and weather that changes the results.
Agreed DN, at least my tests a few years ago showed this for me, no difference come harvest time. We will see what happens this year...Steve...😃
@@GreenSideUp I also do 2 not 4 per tub. Eg, off 4, I got 86 small salad size to 3 inch. Off 2, I got 51 2 inch to 8 inch, which was more in end weight. This was constant over 50 45 litre tubs plus similar with 3 or 6 in 75 litre tubs. Plus those got to 10 inches and per plant, was a better result than 45 litre. I think the soil temperature is more stable, plus dries out less.
Thanks Steve, very well explained, I think we'll all learn something. I don't think I've got anything worthwhile to add as it's only my second year. But I've got plenty tucked away in the shed. Thanks for taking the time.
Farmers don't chit as their mechanical planting rigs would trash shoots on seed spuds.
I chit, then sow/plant 2nd early spuds in deep rose pots to both reduce the footprint under early frost protection and maximise growth before planting out either in containers (initially under cover) or open ground so they can be harvested before late blight hits.
I now only plant blight resistant maincrop spuds.
By doing this, I was the only person on my allotment site last year to be completely unaffected by blight.
Just to be awkward … I grow 3 in a 30ltr pot for the main plantings and i used to grow 4 14” clay pots in the ghouse that were harvested 2 @ Christmas and 2@ New Years and they were small new potatoes… like my dad did and a pot of mint as well 😂😎
Really interesting.😊✅👍
I chit all my potatoes because ... I have never found a way to stop them sprouting, so I'd prefer they were chitting rather than sprouting (and then I would break off the sprout which I think would waste some energy)
This time of the year I pot-up some 1st earlies (individually in 1L pots), and put them in my growing room. Takes them several weeks before they become unmanageable, and then I plant them at that time (into 30L pots, or beds in the greenhouse). That gives me some that harvest earlier. I only plant a couple of pots a week - i.e. about the rate that we will harvest them - and then I plant them earliest-first from the end of the bed, and that is then end that I start harvesting from.
I feel exactly the same.
I look forward to the results of your experiments thanks Steve take care.
Very informative 👍👍👍
I do 3 per pot as I read somewhere that the 'rule' was 1 spud per 10 litres but having watched this vid I think I will try 2 per pot on my main crop this year. Cheers Steve.
Like yourself Steve I'm not saying what's right or wrong just what I've witnessed over the years the trouble i have with 4 seed potatoes per bucket is when they're growing well there is a mass of foliage and with the buckets close together it acts like an umbrella stopping the rain getting into the buckets or the ground around the buckets and at that time of year I'm busy doing other jobs around the plot without using a hose pipe to water the buckets so i stick with 2 tubers per bucket looking forward to tour trials
This is the good thing about gardening, there are many ways to grow a lettuce and every gardener grows something differently from the next, I especially like it when someone comes up with something completely out of the box, and makes it work. I sink my potato pots into the ground to aid with watering...Steve...😃
Well reasoned idea about number of seed potatoes per 35 litre bucket Steve. Last year, my first year using them, I followed the 4 to a bucket method and was disappointed with the yield and size of the crop. I will take your advice this year and try with just the two seed spuds per bucket. Cheers!
At the risk of being burnt at the stake for heresy, I have to confess I am a 3 potato man! As I believe Dan (allotment diary) is, who has had some outstanding results in the past.
Great video Thankyou! Last year I did 4 potatoes and I 💯 agree the potatoes were much much smaller ,this year I’m only doing 2 per pot! I only chit my 1st earlies coz that’s what my grandad told me to do😃
Thank you Lorraine, hope you get a better crop this year, for me it is dissapointing to harvest tiny spuds...Steve...😃
Thanks Steve for sharing your experience with everyone, I am a relatively new gardener even though I’m in my 70’s and always listen to your wise words. I always chit my first early’s but don’t bother with the main crop as they will grow on for longer, in the few short years I’ve done this I find I get a better crop of firsts , but of course I’m only doing a few buckets of each nothing like the numbers you are growing, so I’m really interested to see your results.
Facts and figures make an interesting argument, I'll be interested to see the results at the end of the season. I'm a chitter in the ground still but that's down to not being able to afford buckets and the compost every few years
I put my potatoe in a pot cover with soil and when the growth start to come thru I take them out of the pot and then put them in my buckets check out home grown veg he call them potatoe plants
Thanks for the knowledge Steve.🙂 I'm looking forward to your results.👍
Will be watching your results thanks for the Vid Steve
On my 2nd season of allotment - I have 2 plots so lots of ground. I am still going for potatoes in the ground v bucket - in part to keep plastic to a min. but your buckets look like there hearty - and happy with size of spuds in first crop
Well you are not messing around Kathleen, I love your verve for gardening, two plot and only second year in. Keep at it and the very best of luck to you!...Steve...😃
I think testing is the best way to find out what works in your own area and for the varieties you want to grow. Smart move! I've got Red Duke of York and Pentland Javelin chitting on the kitchen windowsill. First year growing them for me and I ordered a kilo of each - ended up with a dozen of each.
I didn't know you grow your tatties in buckets. What else are you growing in containers?
Not sure at this moment Robin, I do have plenty of containers and use them when I need to, if for example I am running out of bed space. Nice to see your subs going up...Steve...😃
Hi Steve, great video in explaing how you grow your potatoes, will be interesting how the trial goes. I'm thinking of trying 2 potatoes in my buckets this Year too to see if there is a difference in the yield. Thanks for sharing & take care 🙂
It is only recommended for new potatoes as they grow out on one level ,never for maincrops .I've tried both ways with earlies and have to say I still went back to two tubers last year and there wasn't much in it between two and four tubers for Charlotte's .Will be very interested in the results Steve.
Hi Susie, there are a lot of videos out there where people swear by the four second early and maincrop per bucket, I'm not knocking them or their methods and if it works for them then more power to their elbow and a few get really excellent results! But this is why I want to run the test for myself. Everything about it tells me it is wrong so I have to test to find out for myself...Steve...😃
Some of my Charlotte seed potaotes are the size for baking! Any benefit to cutting them in half?
Can't wait for the results! Excellent project👍👍👍 Aren't you worry about frost if you're going to plant first early before march? 🤔
Tbis is why you have grown so big so fast...
Be interesting to see, this year I'm trying a main crop potato. Normally I just do Charlotte but this year I'm doing Picasso and Charlotte be interesting to see if I get a bigger crop or not
Will be interested in seeing the results of your trial Steve. Thought you were talking about me when you said some people only have one windowsill. Set my first earlies out to chit today but they have to share the space with houseplants 😀.
HI Anna, I have only one windowsill I can use too, hence why I started collecting greenhouses and polytunnels...Steve...😃
I always buy mine in January, then I put them in egg boxes in a mushroom tray that allows 30 seed potatoes per tray, and they go in back of my shed , then some time in March I put 2 first earlies in a 30 litre and put them in my green house to bring them on and I put half of what's left (2 per pot) in to 30 litre pots outside and rest in the ground, with the second earlies I spilt half in pots half in the ground and then I do the same with my main crop, I think I get the best from both worlds dong this way, I have not found much difference, I only ever put 2 potatoes per pot.
In UK Wilco sells ORGANIC potato fertilizer. £2 for a kilo. Bargain!
What can you or do you the compost for after the harvest of potatoes
Interesting, I was considering reducing the number of potatoes in a bucket to 2 as I always plant 4 and felt that 2 should be sufficient. I even considered 3 to hedge my bets. Made me think with your spacing and numbers. Will be following your lead and doing a trial this year.
Thanks Robin, later in the season when I post about the results and my thoughts on them, I hope you can add yours too...Steve...😃
yeah farmers dont chit thier spuds , great news for allotment holders , another old practice put to bed no pun intended
How long can main crop seed potatoes be stored/chitted before planting?
I've ordered mine way too early which arrived today (sarpo mira). Any kind suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Does the size of the seed potato really matter ? Will egg size be as good as a big one ? Cheers
Hi Steve, I have got my potatoes now but notice none of them seem to have any eyes. Will they chit?
Great info and test strategy Steve.. I am really looking forward to learning from this... I grew 3 grow bags of potatoes first time last year just for my learning as opposed to being self sufficient... I am far from that journey I think but learning from all your experiences and trying things like a curious child 😁
"and trying things like a curious child " never lose that, it will serve you well in gardening!...Steve...😃
@@GreenSideUp sure with all you guys putting so much effort and thought in putting out these content.. Valuable.. Thank you.
Also I encountered a very unusual msg from one of our famous UK gardner youtubers and said I am shortlisted for a give a away etc etc and are asking for my payment details to pay for courier myself.. This is my first time and am so confused and thinking could this be some one else, like imposter using the youtubers profile pic 😕. Steve would this be normal??
@@jhansi1402 In my experience, if they have a prize for you they wont ask for you to cover delivery, sounds like a scam to me. If I was giving something away I would not dream of asking to cover courier costs, I offered it, I pay for it....Steve...😃
@@GreenSideUp that is something crazy that puzzled me.. But this uk youtuber is sone obe you will know for sure hence I though I can seek ir advice... Is there a way I can privately share a msg or call? I am so glad you responded that quickly Steve..
@@jhansi1402 You can mail me at steve.greensideup@gmail.com in the strictest confidence and I can make some enquiries on your behalf if you wish...Steve...😃
Brilliant idea Steve, I am joining you. I am bad at potatoes. I think tubs with 4, 2 and 1 might be my need to see wha t I might becdoing wrong when will you plant out?
When will you plant after chitting?
@@lynnpurfield9430 Hi Lynn, I always plant end of March, if it gets to April and tatties are not in, I start to shake uncontrollably...Steve...😁😁
@@GreenSideUp Okay, I got my tatties chitting so that gives me time to get some buckets and compost....thank you.
Do you have to add more potato granules/fertlizer during the
Sorry continuing,and b.f.b during the season or will there be enough at planting time?
I am kinda new to this and very limited budget. 30 liter pots are so expensive , this year I bought a bunch of 14 liter builder buckets from wickes @1 pound each ( even with handles yeah) and was planning to put 2 seeds per pot (1st early) , does that sound reasonable.
I grew in pots that size last year.
Some pots i got 3.4Lb of spuds.
Some less 1 pot i had nearly 5 pound, Super impressed, some small, some big