I left a review similar to this on Amazon but for some reason amazon wont post it, probably because its a bit of a negative review. I bought this tripod, and Im in two minds whether I should return it or just accept it for what it is until I save up for something better. Just don't expect great fluid starting and stopping when panning, the lack of adjustment on the pan head really limits it use for professional work, however for the price it not bad and I guess with some practice you could probably get some smooth shots out of it. I found that I can add friction with my fingers to the base on the fluid head, its not an ideal solution though.
I was thinking of buy this tripod for wildlife photography after buying Cayer's video monopod, thanks for the info and the time making the video, subbed :)
Thanks so much! You know, I'm not 100% sure but I think it was one that came with a Cinegears wireless video kit. I have a few cheap ones from smallrig too but the rubber always gets messed up after a while. Their ball joint style magic arms are much better though.
Thanks so much! The one thing to remember for a video tripod is to consider how you'll use it before you choose- if you hope for really smooth pans and tilts, there are better options... this is not bad, but for a few hundred more you can get something like the iFootage K7 or TERIS TCE-CF that will give you better control over counterbalance, resistance and overall a better, more professional control over camera movement. If you're on a very tight budget, this Cayer or a similar one will definitely be a LOT better than a photo style tripod, but I'd say don't rush into it
@@ScottDumas What I need a video tripod for is doing commercials. Have you heard about the 3 Legged Thing Mike Carbon Fiber Tripod with Cine A fluid head? I heard that one is really good. I'm not looking into spending thousands of dollars, I just needs something that is great but reasonable.
@@wonderfulcreationsla3062 3 legged thing tripods are definitely nice, although I'm not sure about their fluid head specifically. It does depend a little on which camera you're using and which quick release plate system you're using, but I think the TERIS TCE-CF or TS-N6 are absolutely incredible tripods for around the same price as the 3LT one you mentioned. Same level as tripods that cost thousands, but a lot cheaper. I have 3 TERIS tripods total :) The iFootage TC9 tripod legs with their K7 head is also an incredible choice if you want tube style legs. I've never tried the 3LT but could highly recommend these others for the price.
I have to ask. When you sat on that tiny bike in the start of the video was the trick where you get viewers to go to the comment section and ask about it for RUclips to notice. If so major props to you for doing that.
Hi Scott. That looks good value. It's similar to some other designs. The 'weak' point is the head and maybe spending a bit more on that part would be worthwhile, but on the other hand it's a lightweight unit and that can trump everything else if one has to carry it very far and as you say it's a good step up if starting out. BobUK.
Yeah there are a lot in this price range with nearly identical designs haha. I actually have another that's a bit more compact but there still hasn't been anything significantly "better" so I guess it's just dependent on prices and availablity wherever you're located.I've heard some people say the price for this is much higher where they are. Definitely worth a step up to a good head if you'll be using it regularly but this is super handy for sliders or flat mounting in my case. Thanks for watching! : )
I just bought one two weeks ago. I only wanted something strong and stable enough for my teleprompter. I'm not planning to do a lot of panning and tilting, and I shoot mostly in my home studio. It only comes with one handle, but two allen wrenches.
Hi Scott, are you American? I have this irrational penchant or interest to know where people are in the world on RUclips when I watch their video. I can't decipher that from your accent as it's sounds like a mix of European, or Australian / South African, etc. Great video. I'm also considering this tripod. Thanks
Hi! I am American haha, from near Boston, MA originally. I live in Japan at the moment though :) Thanks again for watching and commenting and let me know if you have any questions!
Hello SD, so you didn't compare the pan with the Sachtler's ??? I'm pretty shocked... Got one from your link but the newer model (head design) Cayer BF30L 72 Pouces. Same load capacity, half the price bc of aluminium legs instead of carbon. Really ? Half price is an option for a studio solution, think carbon legs are for VIP, exclusive Bohemian Club members, guys with motorhomes, living on the roads. So price... 127 € (Guess what, made in China, German distribution in Europe). They sent you the carbon legs bc they surely make some visual impact, but reinforced aluminium is there too at discount.
I have the Benro S8 pro head and looking for a video tripod legs (w twin tubes) - will these Cayer legs will be suitable for the Benro head? Its bowl is 75mm.
It should, since it has a flat base... but it might be a little tricky to get it level for level pans. That't the benefit of the bowl style design, or a tripod with a similar function to level out the head easily.
How do you think this head compares to a Manfrotto 500?? I also Use a Manfrotto 502 but thet is more expensive and that can be friction adjusted pan and tilt but the Manfrotto 500 is not. I thinking about buying a strong Sirui tripod with another M502 or this one. It seems not very sturdy when it is fully opened a bit worry about that.
Honestly I suspect the Manfrotto will do a bit better, and I hate to say that because I really don't like Manfrotto products haha. They just have more experience, money and production which gives them the leg up. The lack of drag on the pan axis is what bothers me the most about this Cayer head but physically it's pretty solid and when you use the "drag" on the tilt axis you get pretty smooth performance. I wouldn't use it fully open, so the looseness (semi-low counterbalance) doesn't bother me. I actually went through a few Manfrotto heads even including their Nitro N8, and ultimately decided this Cayer works well enough for me unless I want to spend more money. If you want to save money, I'd go for Cayer comfortably while understanding its drawbacks, but if you do go for Manfrotto the 502 will probably be a better value. If compact is what you're after, the iFootage Komodo K5 is incredible as well and uses manfrotto style plates. Honestly- My #1 recommendation by far would be to skip all this and grab a Teris TCE if you can. Around $500-600 for the legs and head but you'll get miles more out of it :)
@@ScottDumas Thanks I did not know about the Teris SOmething like that probably: www.ebay.com/itm/Trix-TERis-V8T-PLUS-Heavy-Carbon-Fibre-Video-Camera-Tripod-Kit-Fluid-Head/173966184890?hash=item28813151ba:g:A20AAOSwbyVdLT5L. seems great. And heavy :-( My problem is i really don't want to carry a very heavy tripod. I use Lumix cams GX85, G85 and G9, with small lenses so the. weight of the cam is not a problem. I really like the Manfrotto 502 it has friction adjustment for tilt and also for pan and it really works. I loose it up for wide angel lenses and tighten it for tele optics and it does make a difference. And all these Chinese cheap or not so cheap video heads are just not able to do that. Or tghey can but than it cost a lot more than Manfrotto. I have a manfrotto old alu tripod 055 and also a Sirui carbon tripod 3205X which is just great. It might would be better to buy another Sirui carbon tripod and a Manfrotto 502. What I will not have like this is levelling half globe system but I can adjust the legs and set the cam to horizontal, I really used to do it, not really a problem. This Cayer looks good on paper but it might not be the best long term investment probably difficult to sell it since it has no name like Sirui or Manfrotto... hard decision. Thanks a lot!!!
well compared to the price, I guess it's quite good, well for video it's probably better than my Manfrotto befree. Though I just got back from abroad and this time I took only a mini tripod, used it more than I used the befree in the past when I took it with me....
Haha yeah sometimes the best is just what's easiest to bring along (and this won't be it in those cases). The befree is definitely a great little tripod as well for the money, but for video-focused people I'd say this is better than the Manfrotto choices in my personal experience. At the very least, it's nearly on the same level for much cheaper :)
@@ScottDumas Yeah I kind of liked what you showed here, I guess if I'll move one day to some place with a "studio" I'll get myself a nice video tripod or at least a video head (or even some motorized solution) for nice pan and tilt on products, otherwise I don't shoot that much outside with the DSLR, for those kinds of trips its the GoPro (which in this trip came super in handy when we were informed that in some place that we went to theres an Omega that we can do (when there's a cable between 2 points, and you sort of swing on it with special equipment)) I just wonder, what causes the drag in those types of tripods, it's the fluid inside? that's why they are usually called fluid heads?
@@DimusTech Fluid heads are usually best with actual fluid inside to smooth the movements, although the "drag" on the tilt with this is most likely just friction based since it's not a dedicated "drag" setting- therefore it's terrible on the pan axis but better on the tilt, so maybe there is some sort of fluid or lubrication in there after all... But yeah- a higher end head will have proper fluid drag built into the pan and tilt axes and you can often tighten it either continuously or in steps to get how much resistance you want which helps fight the imperfections of your hand's movements. The counterbalance is separate from that but holds the camera in place at any angle when you tilt it without locking, so when you want to come to a stop at any angle, you don't have to fight gravity and can get a nice smooth finish to your movement.
@@ScottDumas I understood you, but I guess I need to try and move such a head myself to better understand it... Think I saw such ones in some store but it's scary, if when I was a kid, entering a toy store ended up asking my parents for a present and hoping for the best, now when I earn my own money and I do think that sometimes I can buy myself something good, that store is DANGER to my wallet lol!
Hi Scott, great video! Very helpful 🙏🏼 Regarding the Pan I’ve got a question. I’m filming action with a 300mm or sometimes with 600mm and the thing I value the most is a smooth start and finish of every move. With that focal length, any minor resistance become a jump in the shot. Now that you’ve had that head/tripod in your hand, how ‘resistant’ would you say this head is right at the start of any pan? How smooth it is basically 😀 and, any any opinions about the little Manfrotto 290 comparing to this one? Thanks! I’d appreciate any comments on this
This would probably be very similar to the Manfrotto... a more expensive video head would help out better with the true fluid resistance... TERIS make great products for the price and I think you'd have a much easier time getting it dialed in just right to get a smooth start and stop without backlash. That or another type of head made specifically for long lenses like for birds/wildlife, although I don't know as much about those.
@@ScottDumas Thank you very much for the explanation, appreciated 🙏🏼 I'll have a look at Teris and yes definitely, as you said in your video, more expensive equipment are likely to deliver better results too, a bit of food for thoughts for me😅. Thanks again!
Damn, very sorry to hear that. I've been lucky with mine I guess, that's something that's hard to tell without heavy use of more than one unit I guess.
Right... video style head but no fluid drag. I never extend the legs all the way either but rarely need to personally. Benro does make some good stuff too for sure, it's honestly tough because there are quite a lot of choices around this price bracket haha.
Thanks for watching :) I get what you mean for sure, but for reviewers on YT that's often the only way to realistically review a variety of gear. I guess that's where the trust issue comes in, but I promise they had no input on the video and I was not paid or told to say anything in particular.
Dog owners never stop their dogs barking. They don't give a shit that it's actually torturing a lot of people within earshot (which is a long way). Couldn't finish the vid :(
Sorry to hear that- the one you could probably hear the most was not actually mine, but behind my house and it is often left home alone :( My dog was just a few feet away from me and doesn't usually bark much, sorry to hear it ruined the video for you though.
@@Miguel_Molina Ah- I'll be totally honest, I mixed this up with another video where my neighbor's dog (a big one) was barking the whole time. My dog was in the bedroom looking out the window at me from like 5 feet away here, and I offered for him to come outside but he came to the door and was like "nope," so he stayed in. I don't have any close neighbors though (lots of empty houses out here in the country, and the neighbor with the dog i mentioned is pretty far away) ...just not sure why someone thinks its such a simple thing to just "make my dog stop barking" and its a reason to take the time to comment on a video putting it down like I'm some irresponsible owner.
I've never seen an illuminated bubble before, I didn't even know they existed. Thank you
They do and they're wonderful! haha ...very few "low" priced heads that feature it though, definitely not at this price.
do some research they're common
I left a review similar to this on Amazon but for some reason amazon wont post it, probably because its a bit of a negative review. I bought this tripod, and Im in two minds whether I should return it or just accept it for what it is until I save up for something better. Just don't expect great fluid starting and stopping when panning, the lack of adjustment on the pan head really limits it use for professional work, however for the price it not bad and I guess with some practice you could probably get some smooth shots out of it. I found that I can add friction with my fingers to the base on the fluid head, its not an ideal solution though.
With all this features for only $180 is a great deal man. Thanks for this. I’m placing my order for sure!
Awesome! I totally agree :) What tripod have you been using up until now?
I just got my second one for US$118.
I was thinking of buy this tripod for wildlife photography after buying Cayer's video monopod, thanks for the info and the time making the video, subbed :)
Thanks so much, I appreciate that! :)
i bought myself an andoer fluid head tripod for about $110 and it does a great job for digiscoping best $110 ive ever parted with.
Great review wonderful job. Thank you!!!
Great review. This really helped me a lot. What magic arm are you using?
Thanks so much! You know, I'm not 100% sure but I think it was one that came with a Cinegears wireless video kit. I have a few cheap ones from smallrig too but the rubber always gets messed up after a while. Their ball joint style magic arms are much better though.
Great. Thank you so much for the info!
Awesome video man. I’m thinking of purchasing something similar to this. I’m under the impression the mike thing tripod is great for cinematic videos.
Thanks so much! The one thing to remember for a video tripod is to consider how you'll use it before you choose- if you hope for really smooth pans and tilts, there are better options... this is not bad, but for a few hundred more you can get something like the iFootage K7 or TERIS TCE-CF that will give you better control over counterbalance, resistance and overall a better, more professional control over camera movement. If you're on a very tight budget, this Cayer or a similar one will definitely be a LOT better than a photo style tripod, but I'd say don't rush into it
@@ScottDumas What I need a video tripod for is doing commercials. Have you heard about the 3 Legged Thing Mike Carbon Fiber Tripod with Cine A fluid head? I heard that one is really good. I'm not looking into spending thousands of dollars, I just needs something that is great but reasonable.
@@wonderfulcreationsla3062 3 legged thing tripods are definitely nice, although I'm not sure about their fluid head specifically. It does depend a little on which camera you're using and which quick release plate system you're using, but I think the TERIS TCE-CF or TS-N6 are absolutely incredible tripods for around the same price as the 3LT one you mentioned. Same level as tripods that cost thousands, but a lot cheaper. I have 3 TERIS tripods total :) The iFootage TC9 tripod legs with their K7 head is also an incredible choice if you want tube style legs. I've never tried the 3LT but could highly recommend these others for the price.
I have to ask. When you sat on that tiny bike in the start of the video was the trick where you get viewers to go to the comment section and ask about it for RUclips to notice. If so major props to you for doing that.
haha it was 50% hoping to grab people's attention, 50% the only thing available to sit out within reach ;)
Hi Scott. That looks good value. It's similar to some other designs. The 'weak' point is the head and maybe spending a bit more on that part would be worthwhile, but on the other hand it's a lightweight unit and that can trump everything else if one has to carry it very far and as you say it's a good step up if starting out. BobUK.
Yeah there are a lot in this price range with nearly identical designs haha. I actually have another that's a bit more compact but there still hasn't been anything significantly "better" so I guess it's just dependent on prices and availablity wherever you're located.I've heard some people say the price for this is much higher where they are. Definitely worth a step up to a good head if you'll be using it regularly but this is super handy for sliders or flat mounting in my case. Thanks for watching! : )
I just bought one two weeks ago. I only wanted something strong and stable enough for my teleprompter. I'm not planning to do a lot of panning and tilting, and I shoot mostly in my home studio.
It only comes with one handle, but two allen wrenches.
Hi Scott, are you American? I have this irrational penchant or interest to know where people are in the world on RUclips when I watch their video. I can't decipher that from your accent as it's sounds like a mix of European, or Australian / South African, etc.
Great video. I'm also considering this tripod.
Thanks
Hi! I am American haha, from near Boston, MA originally. I live in Japan at the moment though :) Thanks again for watching and commenting and let me know if you have any questions!
Hello SD, so you didn't compare the pan with the Sachtler's ???
I'm pretty shocked... Got one from your link but the newer model (head design) Cayer BF30L 72 Pouces. Same load capacity, half the price bc of aluminium legs instead of carbon. Really ?
Half price is an option for a studio solution, think carbon legs are for VIP, exclusive Bohemian Club members, guys with motorhomes, living on the roads. So price... 127 € (Guess what, made in China, German distribution in Europe). They sent you the carbon legs bc they surely make some visual impact, but reinforced aluminium is there too at discount.
Very helpful, thanks!
I have the Benro S8 pro head and looking for a video tripod legs (w twin tubes) - will these Cayer legs will be suitable for the Benro head? Its bowl is 75mm.
Our Viltrox VX-18M didn't come with two handles.. or an extra bag with rozettes..
hey what size are the handles. I was thinking you can remove one and use a 15mm so you can attach other things, is this possilbe, thanks
what magic arm work with this tripod? Ive order a few and they all do not fit in the screw holes on the side of it.
I have a manfrotto element and want to change the ball head to a fluid head. Would this head fit correctly on it ?
It should, since it has a flat base... but it might be a little tricky to get it level for level pans. That't the benefit of the bowl style design, or a tripod with a similar function to level out the head easily.
How do you think this head compares to a Manfrotto 500?? I also Use a Manfrotto 502 but thet is more expensive and that can be friction adjusted pan and tilt but the Manfrotto 500 is not. I thinking about buying a strong Sirui tripod with another M502 or this one. It seems not very sturdy when it is fully opened a bit worry about that.
Honestly I suspect the Manfrotto will do a bit better, and I hate to say that because I really don't like Manfrotto products haha. They just have more experience, money and production which gives them the leg up. The lack of drag on the pan axis is what bothers me the most about this Cayer head but physically it's pretty solid and when you use the "drag" on the tilt axis you get pretty smooth performance. I wouldn't use it fully open, so the looseness (semi-low counterbalance) doesn't bother me. I actually went through a few Manfrotto heads even including their Nitro N8, and ultimately decided this Cayer works well enough for me unless I want to spend more money. If you want to save money, I'd go for Cayer comfortably while understanding its drawbacks, but if you do go for Manfrotto the 502 will probably be a better value. If compact is what you're after, the iFootage Komodo K5 is incredible as well and uses manfrotto style plates.
Honestly- My #1 recommendation by far would be to skip all this and grab a Teris TCE if you can. Around $500-600 for the legs and head but you'll get miles more out of it :)
@@ScottDumas Thanks I did not know about the Teris SOmething like that probably: www.ebay.com/itm/Trix-TERis-V8T-PLUS-Heavy-Carbon-Fibre-Video-Camera-Tripod-Kit-Fluid-Head/173966184890?hash=item28813151ba:g:A20AAOSwbyVdLT5L. seems great. And heavy :-(
My problem is i really don't want to carry a very heavy tripod. I use Lumix cams GX85, G85 and G9, with small lenses so the. weight of the cam is not a problem. I really like the Manfrotto 502 it has friction adjustment for tilt and also for pan and it really works. I loose it up for wide angel lenses and tighten it for tele optics and it does make a difference. And all these Chinese cheap or not so cheap video heads are just not able to do that. Or tghey can but than it cost a lot more than Manfrotto.
I have a manfrotto old alu tripod 055 and also a Sirui carbon tripod 3205X which is just great. It might would be better to buy another Sirui carbon tripod and a Manfrotto 502. What I will not have like this is levelling half globe system but I can adjust the legs and set the cam to horizontal, I really used to do it, not really a problem. This Cayer looks good on paper but it might not be the best long term investment probably difficult to sell it since it has no name like Sirui or Manfrotto... hard decision. Thanks a lot!!!
I am odering the ifootage k5 as we speak. I had a 3 legged things...they are great too.
So, it is light enough to carrying?
That would depend on what you want to carry and how far. But, generally speaking it's fairly light for a video tripod.
your little bike, is the coolest thing ever
Haha, I figured that it would add about 25% more credibility and cool points ;)
well compared to the price, I guess it's quite good, well for video it's probably better than my Manfrotto befree.
Though I just got back from abroad and this time I took only a mini tripod, used it more than I used the befree in the past when I took it with me....
Haha yeah sometimes the best is just what's easiest to bring along (and this won't be it in those cases). The befree is definitely a great little tripod as well for the money, but for video-focused people I'd say this is better than the Manfrotto choices in my personal experience. At the very least, it's nearly on the same level for much cheaper :)
@@ScottDumas Yeah I kind of liked what you showed here, I guess if I'll move one day to some place with a "studio" I'll get myself a nice video tripod or at least a video head (or even some motorized solution) for nice pan and tilt on products, otherwise I don't shoot that much outside with the DSLR, for those kinds of trips its the GoPro (which in this trip came super in handy when we were informed that in some place that we went to theres an Omega that we can do (when there's a cable between 2 points, and you sort of swing on it with special equipment))
I just wonder, what causes the drag in those types of tripods, it's the fluid inside? that's why they are usually called fluid heads?
@@DimusTech Fluid heads are usually best with actual fluid inside to smooth the movements, although the "drag" on the tilt with this is most likely just friction based since it's not a dedicated "drag" setting- therefore it's terrible on the pan axis but better on the tilt, so maybe there is some sort of fluid or lubrication in there after all...
But yeah- a higher end head will have proper fluid drag built into the pan and tilt axes and you can often tighten it either continuously or in steps to get how much resistance you want which helps fight the imperfections of your hand's movements. The counterbalance is separate from that but holds the camera in place at any angle when you tilt it without locking, so when you want to come to a stop at any angle, you don't have to fight gravity and can get a nice smooth finish to your movement.
@@ScottDumas I understood you, but I guess I need to try and move such a head myself to better understand it... Think I saw such ones in some store but it's scary, if when I was a kid, entering a toy store ended up asking my parents for a present and hoping for the best, now when I earn my own money and I do think that sometimes I can buy myself something good, that store is DANGER to my wallet lol!
@@DimusTech Hahaha... I know what you mean. Camera stores are like the toy stores for us, but even more dangerous! lol
Hi Scott, great video! Very helpful 🙏🏼 Regarding the Pan I’ve got a question. I’m filming action with a 300mm or sometimes with 600mm and the thing I value the most is a smooth start and finish of every move. With that focal length, any minor resistance become a jump in the shot.
Now that you’ve had that head/tripod in your hand, how ‘resistant’ would you say this head is right at the start of any pan? How smooth it is basically 😀 and, any any opinions about the little Manfrotto 290 comparing to this one?
Thanks! I’d appreciate any comments on this
This would probably be very similar to the Manfrotto... a more expensive video head would help out better with the true fluid resistance... TERIS make great products for the price and I think you'd have a much easier time getting it dialed in just right to get a smooth start and stop without backlash. That or another type of head made specifically for long lenses like for birds/wildlife, although I don't know as much about those.
@@ScottDumas Thank you very much for the explanation, appreciated 🙏🏼 I'll have a look at Teris and yes definitely, as you said in your video, more expensive equipment are likely to deliver better results too, a bit of food for thoughts for me😅. Thanks again!
How stable is when is in Full leght is stable when you pan or you feel shake too much?
It's not bad... not perfect but also depends on your camera setup, focal length and how fast you pan.
You just used a razor sharp knife to open the box? That may be where the cut in the carry case came from?
Highly doubt it, the knife barely cut through the plastic wrapped around the box
Thanks so much
Ive bought 2 of em and they both went bad on me the lock on the legs stopped locking
Damn, very sorry to hear that. I've been lucky with mine I guess, that's something that's hard to tell without heavy use of more than one unit I guess.
Scott Dumas yeah bummer Cuz it’s actually a great tripod just got 2 bad ones I guess thanks for the reply take care.
Costs 540 on amazon. Not really cheap though.
Definitely wasn't that much at the time of this review. For that price there are absolutely better choices
@@ScottDumas thanks for the review though. i appreciate it bro
In May 2020, this tripod is WAYYYY more expensive on Amazon... as in more than $450 US!!!
Really?? No good, sorry to see the price has gone up. For that price, get the TERIS TCE! Amazing tripod for the money.
Not a fluid head, without any drag. I do not like the legs fully extended. Benro has better video tripod kits at the same price range.
Right... video style head but no fluid drag. I never extend the legs all the way either but rarely need to personally. Benro does make some good stuff too for sure, it's honestly tough because there are quite a lot of choices around this price bracket haha.
233 € here, great value for the price!
thanks for the hard work in making this video, but the fact that they sent it to you makes it just a little less credible
Thanks for watching :) I get what you mean for sure, but for reviewers on YT that's often the only way to realistically review a variety of gear. I guess that's where the trust issue comes in, but I promise they had no input on the video and I was not paid or told to say anything in particular.
OMg.. this tripod now costs over $500 dollars !!!!
Dog owners never stop their dogs barking. They don't give a shit that it's actually torturing a lot of people within earshot (which is a long way). Couldn't finish the vid :(
Sorry to hear that- the one you could probably hear the most was not actually mine, but behind my house and it is often left home alone :( My dog was just a few feet away from me and doesn't usually bark much, sorry to hear it ruined the video for you though.
I yell at my dogs to stop barking all the time. There are considerate people in the world, don't give up hope!
Cheap lol?
for a video tripod? VERY cheap :) For photo it's a different story since the needs are quite different
Thumbs down for not quieting your dog and bothering neighbors and us watching the video
Not my dog lol, no control over the neighborhood!
@@ScottDumas lol, i dont care about dog barking, but you did say it was your dog in the video @ 8:33
@@Miguel_Molina Ah- I'll be totally honest, I mixed this up with another video where my neighbor's dog (a big one) was barking the whole time. My dog was in the bedroom looking out the window at me from like 5 feet away here, and I offered for him to come outside but he came to the door and was like "nope," so he stayed in. I don't have any close neighbors though (lots of empty houses out here in the country, and the neighbor with the dog i mentioned is pretty far away) ...just not sure why someone thinks its such a simple thing to just "make my dog stop barking" and its a reason to take the time to comment on a video putting it down like I'm some irresponsible owner.