FACTIONS EXPLAINED! THE 4 CHAOS GODS! | Warhammer 40k Bricky Reaction
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Khorne recently stood up, swung his sword once, took out/converted an entire imperial fleet while turning the warp travel lights out for half the imperium, and inflicting the MURDER CURSE to untold millions... All of that, just because he thought his daemon Primarch Angron was being a really good boy and deserved a treat.
That’s when Angron destroyed the Dark Age Astronomicon in the Arks of Omen right?
By the Emperor, I don't wanna see what Khorne brings as a birthday present
@@Karou812 surprise! it's blood!
Angron definitely deserved a treat. He did amazing.
@@Karou812 Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne, of course. And maybe a new chainaxe.
She fell for Slaanesh _immediately_ Like, not a second of hesitation. Like a quarter inch of exposed midriff and she was freakin' _gone_
Her mistake. Slaanesh's daemons would turn her into a living harp and play her nerves like strings
ok so does Slaanesh have any gender? Cuz it seem that Slaanesh can change genders base on my first impression about Slaanesh
@@Junweitrustnobody1403The chaos gods actually have no gender they don’t actually have a physical form all the art of them is fan made.
@@admiralotaku9509 i see, i'll just refer to what them as what i think their gender would be. Anyway if you're in Warhammer 40k, what is your favourite and which fraction would you join?
You can say that Slaanesh have every gender known to tumblr
Don't be fooled by chat though. Khorne is perfectly capable to stand up. He just rarely does so, but he can whenever he wants to. Which makes it a much more impacting when he does like "Oh shit, something piussed him off so much he got up"
Mf got up and killed a planet, not killing everyone in the planet, bastard killed THE planet.
so what i get from this is that Khorne is the Final Boss
but he's just showed up early and wants war for breakfast
and last time he stood up and sat down the changling put some nurglings on his throne which started a whole mess.... both on the throne and between khorne and nurgle
@@Gruber122 Nope, the last time he stood up he swung his sword, killed a intire crusade fleet, started a murder curse that took out an intire sector and gave F*ucking Angron of all people 8 weeks without the butcher's nails.
He stood up in Arks of Omen with Angron I believe
A little correction to one of the chatters: Khorne was in no way harmed/made crippled by one of his greater daemons when struck from behind. Skarbrand (The bloodthirster in question) is powerful in his own rights yes, but he only made a SCRATCH on the Blood God's armor.
Yeah lol I noticed a lot of people in the chat being confidently wrong
@@frokghug yeah, its incredibly common to see that. not strange though, 40k is so big and complicated that it is inevitable that some people think they're right when they're very wrong. it does not help that most 40k lore is not easy to access with black library not printing most books anymore, any lore you find in a codex is available for limited time during that codex's edition, etc etc.
exactly. He fucked up Skarbrand so thoroughly simply because of HOW he went about it, not the act of challenging Khorne himself
@ThaLoser he would probably have been ok with it if Skarbrand tried to stab him in the face. Still would have kicked his ass for it, but been ok with it.
he was only a worshipper of tzeentch and was trying to sow chaos
About nurgle loving you, its best shown in the story of one of his kids, one of his lowest ranked, was sitting on his shoulder while he cooked a disease in a cauldron, he was cooking the PERFECT disease. The little demon fell in, and realized, it tasted AMAZING. So he drank it, all of it, and it evolved him into the top rank nurgle demon. He realized, he wasted nurgles perfect disease, and felt like a failure, however, nurgle felt pride in his son, for eating all his food, for showing how perfect the disease was, and for growing into a beautiful man (by nurgle standards)! However the demon still felt bad, and went on a quest to cook a new, perfect disease to gift to nurgle. But nurgles happy, because his perfect disease, made him his perfect darling boy.
Nurgle's first son I believe Kur'gath
Ku'gath lost the Plague Wars and for being so dissident isn't Nurgle's favorite anymore
@@stripeybag6977he will always be my favorite
@@stripeybag6977we'll file that under teenage rebellious phase, may reconcile later
It wasn't until today that I realized Ku'gath's evolution was akin to those mobile game ads where "Level 1 Thug gets item and becomes Level 100 Crime Boss."
Khorne is the definition of the homie that has your back . . . as long as you don’t do something stupid like betray them
He will murder you from the front XD
Skarbrand: HEY, WATCH THIS-!
Khorne is actually chill with betrayal, as long as you're up front about it.
@@cytorakdemonyeah, like if you challenge your warlord up front he's still happy, but the moment you stab your warlord in the back he's gonna bitch slap you into the next chaos gods realm.
He literally has his followers kill each other, he don't give a shit lol
17:30 The problem with Nurgle loving his worshippers and his daemons, is that he shows his love through gifts. Usually, these gifts are things that he cooks up in his kitchen. You do not want to try Grandpa Nurgle's cooking, but he will insist.
I mean last time there was one daemon who fell into and became the unclean one I believe?
@@Bondrewd__21 he became the greatest of the unclean ones, and papa Nurgle is so proud.
@@featherdragon7894Grandfather Nurgle is very proud of Ku'gath Plaguefather! Well, mostly. He's had some mishaps here and there.
And, to expand on the original comment, I love that Nurgle is basically the Santa Claus of disease and decay. Handing out pestilence like it's the best gift that could ever be shared with the galaxy, and always coming up with new and uniquely horrifying plagues.
Ku'gath fucked up though in the Plague Wars and now is no longer Nurgle's favorite
@@Bondrewd__21the little nurgling grew up into a Great Unclean One. And Papa Nurgle had never been more proud.
1. Khorne also actually has a weird level of integrity. Like, for a chaos god that loves murder he's weirdly honorable and despises it when people , especially his own followers, use cheap tactics, like magic in his eyes or attacking a foe from behind when they're not paying attention, or when they don't keep their word.
His followers are also empowered with, essentially, a blood rage that makes their potential strength virtually infinite, but at the constant risk of losing their sanity.
Khorne doesn't care which way tho as long as you keep fighting in his name.
2. Tzeentch is implied to know *everything* and is actively just trying to keep things interesting for himself. Hell, he'll sometimes either screw over or empower his own followers depending entirely on his mood at the time.
Still his followers put up with it cause, again, he knows *everything* and on the rare chance he gives a straight answer, or as close as possible, it could be invaluable.
3. Nurgle, despite hating Tzeentch and being all about stagnation and decay, does seem to have a weird amount of consideration for "balance" , he knows that the ultimate plague has no meaning if there's nothing for it to infect. Which is why its speculated that he lets the goddess Isha stay in his realm by his cauldron for this exact reason. She tests the diseases, which she can cure herself of usually no problem, and whispers the cures to the physical world, *seemingly* when Nurgle isn't looking.
Also, Nurgle's followers weirdly don't die from the transformations they go through, in fact their life is extended if anything and they don't feel pain or rather they feel it as pleasure.. Also many of his Nurglings and other creations aren't even evil, they have the minds of puppies or children and just want to play. But due to their monstrous nature and the diseases they carry, they end up accidentally killing almost anything they come across.
Nurgle is also the chaos god that's the hardest to make mad. He's suprisingly chill and in a perpetually jolly mood. but God help you if you manage to make him lose his temper
4. Slaneesh is excess in all forms in the sense that both she/he and their followers endlessly chase greater and greater pleasures and extremes like addicts.
The torture and pain only comes once their followers get to the point that nothing in the realm of normalcy can possinly sate their desires and so they endlessly fall further and further into depravity.
As others have said, Khorn will never stab you in the back. He will stab you in the face, repeatedly until it stops resembling a face.
Khorn actually does have choas magic users their magic is rage buffs arch did a video on it
@@jamesfreeman3617
Khorne said
'Your Magic shizz...it makes me big angry'
'that it not me opening up to you- that is a command'
@@jaysuscrass9119 khorn has his gore mages in the blood pack. Khorn doesn't mind magic if it's used the right way like tracking a fleeing enemy or turng allies into blood thirsty monsters. Also khorn demands a offering of blood to use his powers
I'm going by the implied reason for *Isha,* stays in the garden, because he believes any of the Gods would hand her over to Slaanesh
Milk for the Khorne flakes, butter for the Toast Throne. Breakfast is important.
Just make sure not to get your milk from Slaanesh
Or your bacon from Nurgle.
Finally, a god I can get behind.
And now I'm hungry I hate you all take my angry upvote
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I don't think Khorne is actually stuck in the chair lol, the stab in the back he got literally scratched his armour
Apparently he stand up, put his hand over Angrons shoulder and they together blew planet in dark imperium or something. Or so i have heard... DI found something better than golden throne and Khorne said nope.
@@davidhytha9828Didn't that happened in "Angron" in the Arcs of Omen?
This is correct. In fact the one who attacked him was his second in command who was fooled and did a full force sneak attack on Khorne but it literally barely scratched him...he then btfo'd the traitor.
@@twicedeadmage Honestly i know it was in book, but not in ones i have. All i have are necron codexes and Hellsreach.
yeah@@twicedeadmage
Alicia really said, "THE WARP IS OVERTAKING ME! *_IT IS A GOOD PAIN!!!"_*
So she's a Possessed chaosa marine ;) ?
fun fact about khorne: one time one of his own named skarbrand went too crazy for blood and tried to kill khorne, khorne wasnt angry at the attempt on his life, he was pissed because skarbrand attack his back
Khorne: fucking wuss ass bitch! Couldn't even attack the front
Tzeentch is also the god of Hope. Kind of tells you what kind of setting this is when the god of hope is evil.
It tends to mix in with his portfolio of ambition and manipulation.
But you also have to ask if Tzeentch actually represents hope or if that's just his carefully crafted persona. The fact that the nefarious schemer is the one who sounds the most good of the chaos gods all ready makes me think it's just a trick.
I mean, tzeench is not more evil than the emperor, the whole eldars, orks, necron, etc
yeh, and by this time in the setting, da emperor of mankind is pretty much the legit " god of hope " for many in dat galaxy tbh
Yes, it is. All the chaos gods are manifestations of pure evil.
@@odst123451
Not pure evil as much as the reflected and compounded evil of the setting.
A better way to explain the other side to chaos's coin, is that no one not even the gods themselves know that they embody these ideals. The reason that they act this evil is because the galaxy is stuck in internal war. Also Nurgle isn't just the finality he is also the beginning (he is also nature incarnate). You will learn how the other gods were born when he covers the Necrons.
As entropy is a universal constant
You hit the nail on the head when it comes to how violence influences the Chaos Gods. There's a lot of lore underpinning it, but suffice to say that the galaxy of Warhammer 40k has been SO enmeshed in war for SO long that the resulting negativity has heavily skewed the Warp.
Speaking as a Chaos fan, there is one major flaw in this reasoning: the Chaos gods are at least partially, if not mostly responsible for the state of unending war that the galaxy is currently in. They've been influencing life long before the Horus Heresy, or the Age of Strife, or even before humanity existed. I suppose you could make the argument that the way things have turned out was unintentional by Nurgle, Khorne, and Slaanesh, but Tzeentch? It's highly unlikely that he didn't have some inkling of what his meddling would unleash upon the galaxy.
The better explanation would simply be a war of escalation between the Emperor and the Chaos gods, a chess game that has progressively gotten more and more intense due to either side being unwilling to surrender, even at the risk of destroying the chess board. If that's the case, the Emperor is not only the biggest failure of the Galaxy, but also a complete moron if he really thought he could match the reflections of reality with violence. He was punching at a mirror with the intention of actually defeating his opponent.
TL;DR I guess is that the Chaos gods are still somewhat responsible for how evil they've become, because while we've most certainly been poking and prodding into the abyss, the abyss has been poking and prodding back.
@@Halo2nothing11111 -- Was trying to avoid spoiler territory, but...
There's one big flaw in your argument: the War in Heaven. Chaos wasn't around when the Necrons & C'tan fought the Old Ones, Eldar, and Krork (among others). It was that war, which was fought on a scope and intensity that the galaxy has literally never seen since, that did 90% of the work of turning the balanced and mild Realm of Souls into the chaotic and violent Warp. The eras in which each of the Chaos Gods was "born" just simply tipped over an already boiling pot, that's all.
Since Chaos isn't an innate and natural part of the cosmos (as so many would have you believe) -- since there was in fact a time where life flourished and the Warp was calm and non-hostile -- Emp's plan (while admittedly far fetched) is not without merit. Conquer the galaxy to have control. Use control to snuff out religion and superstition, decreasing Chaos' power. Take over the Webway to create a new home for humanity that Chaos cannot reach. Wait for the Dark Gods to starve to death, then step back out of the Webway to retake control of the galaxy and lead humanity into a bright and prosperous future. It's really not that bad of a plan, overall.
@@ryanedgerton1982 Unless it's been retconned recently, the Chaos gods are capable of influencing events before they're born.
There's still so many flaws in that plan that it's beyond far fetched. One, it assumes he does find ALL of humanity. That would mean he'd need to check every single corner of the galaxy, every single planet, moon, asteroid, space hulk, you name it. If he misses one underground colony on some irradiated and seemingly lifeless planet, you can bet that's what Chaos will survive off of and possibly even grow from. It also assumes that at sometime during the Age of Strife NO humans ever ventured and settled beyond the galaxy.
Two would be getting ALL of humanity into the webway. Even for the Emperor, convincing all of humanity to drop everything, leave their homes and move not just to a new one, but a new dimension would be beyond a monumental task. If we don't see open rebellion we'd certainly see desertion, people fleeing the Imperium to hide and wait out the migration.
Three, it assumes that Chaos cannot be influenced from the webway. Sure, the gods might not be able to whisper into the ears of mortals, but they don't need to. Chaos is influenced whether or not they receive worship, simply by emotions. They feed off of our griefs, our anger, our hopes, and our desires, respectfully. It wasn't any kind of worship that "birthed" Slaanesh or made it as powerful as it is. Who's to say those emotions can't still seep from the webway into the warp?
Four, it assumes that once humanity is gone Chaos won't just find a new source of sustenance. The Tau are, what, three thousand years old? It's possible, even likely there's another up and coming species out there, just as, if not more susceptible to the taint of Chaos. I suppose he could have planned for the Tyranids to come and wipe out the remainder of life in the galaxy, they do have a presence in the warp after all. Once again though, it relies on 100% accuracy, that the Tyranids would find and consume every sapient creature in the galaxy.
I think that it's more likely that once the Emperor convinces as much of humanity as he can to enter the webway (assuming the Heresy never happens), they never leave. Chaos manages to survive off smaller portions, and ironically without the Imperium as it's adversary the warp and therefore the galaxy becomes much more peaceful once again. Of course the Chaos gods being who they are weren't gonna let that happen, and the Emperor should have known that. There is no "starving out" the Chaos gods, he would have been better off trying to make peace with and reigning in their power and influence. Convince them that it was in the best interest of life, their food source, that a peaceful existence, while not as fun, is more sustainable. But he chose eternal conflict, which in turn has arguably made the Chaos gods more powerful.
Fun fact: there was a Traitor space marine that was suppressing his psychic abilities cause his legion hates psykers and pretty much anything chaos. But this specific marine was slowly corrupted by Slaanesh into pretty much an emotional Vampire that feed on his victim’s fears. Also please treat Angron right cause he very tragic (his legion too, they sad angy boys)
Ok I can see how you’d sympathize with Angron, but he could have been less of a bitch
Khorne being a parapalegic is more of a suggestion as of the most recent arks of omen books khorne actually gets up from his throne and with his chosen champion angron together cleave a planet in two and unleash the murder curse or better known as going to the fridge and opening the coldest can of whoop ass on the imperium corrupting all but the most incorruptible this includes sisters of battle
its not even a suggestion, it never was a thing. its just wrong info.
he wasnt even injured from skarbrand's attack, his armor got a tiny scratch in it, nothing more.
Bricky got Angron wrong, and he owns up to it in his vodeo on Space Marine Legions. Angron didn't choose to do cranial surgery upon himself, it was forced on him.
I love the contrast between grimdark and non grimdark slasnesh. Non grimdark slaanesh being “sex and sex related things, also funny glam rock marines” and grimdark being hellraiser type vibes with added drug addiction.
And since the galaxy is big, 40k lends itself to all genres, and home brewing is encouraged, there is place for any and all interpretations.
Sometimes the problem is that they rely too much on homebrewing though. Like, yeah, it's cool to make your own stories and battles and such, but it would be teally nice if they focused more on actually progressing the story a bit. I mean, has there been any major event since Cadia fell? I've been looking but I'm a bit out of the loop.
Anyway, I think I just want some proper story progression instead of glorified fanfiction.
@@josefsieffen18Arks of Omen and the return of the Lion
@@josefsieffen18I know Lion L Johnson of the Dark Angels is back, that's about all I know.
@@josefsieffen18 I mean, we went decades with no plot progression at all. But Cadia fell in 7th edition. Starting in 8th edition, the galaxy was split in half, there are Primaris Marines, the chaos gods think the Emperor is ascending and at the very least he's empowering various human psykers (it might not be him but its implied to be him), codex compliant chapters are tactically reorganized to make each field company more versatile, the space dwarfs are back, Lion El'Jonson is back, the Octarius War is over (nids won), various other things.
Of course that kind of misses the point since its a wargame first and lore second. The lore is there to make the wargaming more fun, not to make the wargaming change every couple years to keep up with the newest plot points.
Also the Plague Wars happened, Nurgle got lit on fire by the Emperor who is waking up because of the Psychic Awakening.
A fun thing to consider about Slaanesh:
Since she is the embodiment of all emotions cranked up to 1,000, there is a greater chance than zero that Slaanesh could eventually be the greatest embodiment of kindness and friendship in all the galaxy. Kindness and friendship ARE emotions, after all, and eventually, she WILL cycle through to those two specifically.
Friendship is magic and magic ... is heresy.
wholesome slaneesh sounds weird but maybe it can be spun to be fun
Something interesting about Khorne is that he doesn't like going after the weak. Like, if you know someone is defensless or physically disabled and you go out of your way to attack them for no reason, Khorne does not appreciate that. One of the reasons he despises Slaanesh is because they torture their victims, which Khorne sees as needless cruelty
The thing that make Slahnness make scary is that Slahness is addiction. You are constantly looking for that next new high. So you just keep pushing until you have ruin everything around you.
15:00 Interesting twist; Khorne actually isn't all that disdainful of the weak. He certainly _prefers_ strength, but if you die violently in battle, he considers that (almost) as good as killing violently in battle. "Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows; only that it flows."
Where is that "Khorne cannot walk and is stuck in his throne." coming from? Skarbrand was able to maybe leave a scratch on Khorne's armor.
The lore reason for why the warp is chaos is because the War in Heaven was so brutal it psychically bled into 'the realm of souls' and scarred it twisting it into hate.
Still surprises me there were no Khorne demons in Warhammer 40K Boltgun
Might've gotten a bit too aesthetically close to DOOM copyright wise
Likely because they were driven off at the end of Space Marine. They are the same world after all.
They're hinted at in the ending cutscene, so either DLC or sequel
They're mostly melee so the gameplay would be quite annoying tbh. They'd run at you and overwhelm you. With Tzeentch and whatnot, they have decent shooting still so they can make it a bit more even.
After you check out the rest of bricky's part 2 and his space marine legions explained video, you should look into luetin09, specifically his "Emperor of Man" part 1 and part 2 videos. They give a more in depth explanation of the history of the imperium and the horus heresy. Plus luetin is the go to youtuber for in depth warhammer lore videos.
Personally, my fav videos of his are the ones on the jobs in the Imperium, as they provide some great insight into what Imperial life is actually like - I.e. so dystopian it makes Mega-City One look like a nice place to live.
@swordhunter12 agreed, those are great videos and she should probably watch those at some point, I just like to suggest emperor of man part 1 and 2 to newcomers after they finish bricky's videos, that way they can get a solid understanding for the build up to the setting of 40k. Leutin does a great job of summarizing the backstory of humanity, the rise of the imperium and the horus heresy, which gives someone new enough of a solid background on the lore that they can start looking into other factions, or even more specific lore about the imperium.
I actually think that Baldermort's guide to Warhammer is a pretty good lore channel as well he's done a lot of things about Warhammer from short, medium, and long to full read throughs of Warhammer books and in-depth deep dives.
@@Gearhead66 Oh I love Baldermort, the short stories he makes for the beginnings of videos are awesome
@@Kelschman96 That's another reason why I like him as well, adds a little bit of depth to the video before it begins
One of slaaneshs champions jas the power to ressurect if anyone feels ANYTHING about his death.
Even the smallest ammount of satisfaction or even boredom will cause him to respawn.
Inside you.
Hes well over 9 foot tall.
His armour spawns with him.
My headcanon has him being eviscerated by a Necron Lord in the future so that he can finally experience the joy of feeling the terror of true death.
@@xethified he got killed by a necron warrior and came back which is bullshit but yeah he just doesn’t die because the writers said so.
@@xethified even if Lucius would at some point be killed by someone who doesn't care about killing him, Slaanesh will just bring him back like it did the first he was killed
Lucius is 7 ft
@@xethified it dosent have to be the one who killed him, if someone on the otherside of the galaxy hears about it and laughs..
22:05 the tone of pure happiness in her voice is a shot of serotonin straight in the veins, I swear.
There’s something about Nurgle that never really felt right. They say he’s stagnation, but he also represents life, because his plagues gives life to new organisms. It’s not like he turns people into stone, everyone gets sick. They turn green, grow horns and their bodies get bloated and rotten. He’s also always improving his plagues. The way Nurgle and Thenzh effect their followers are more like the difference between a cyborg and a mutant, rather than change and stagnation.
Nurgle represents the circle of live rot -> decay -> death -> decomposition -> nutritions for new live
Without structure and restraint (order), even positive ideas and hopes become warped and corrupted. Thus, Chaos is evil because it rejects any kind of proportionality or discipline. Whatever good you can eek out of chaos, they will make you ruin it.
Great reaction series btw!
Yup, any good you take from chaos will be driven to the extreme as that is what feeds them. Extremes are never good.
The truth of the world is ever changing entropy and chaos, the emperor is a fool trying to stop a river with a bunch of branches
Fun fact: it is stated Tzeentch was close to already winning the "great game", against the other chaos gods and could destroyed the universe but it would become so so boring for him with winning, so he stopped himself completely and now makes it so the "game" will only keep on going.
Also it's kind of funny and wierd that in the story a little young girl outsmarted tzeentch questions, traps, labyrinth and other stuff.
I’m pretty sure that the reason Chaos is the way it is now is because of Slaanesh, being that they’re a god of excess, they couldn’t not be excessive, meaning that for the great game to be kept at a stalemate the others had to step up their game, this lines up with the fact that the other three didn’t really do much before Old Night, which was caused by the warpstorms from the eldar orgy.
The reason the appearance is so extreme is that more extreme emotions resonat stronger in the Warp, and as such feeds the Chaos gods more.
I think the main reason why Chaos is often seen as evil and bringing misery despite embodying good aspects as well, is because of how Chaos Gods think and function.
The Chaos Gods are constantly looking to create more of the aspects that they originally formed from. Doing this consumes energy, which then in return weakens them, so they have to get a good return on the energy that they invest. While honor, hope, contentment and joy would be something they could spread, violence, betrayal, disease and pain take a lot less effort and can be spread much further. Also, in the end of the day, none of them really care about humanity enough to be seen as "good".
A point of clarification that might be slightly more confusing at first, but I promise helps a lot of stuff just slot into place:
The Warp wasn't always the Warp.
Or rather, to be specific, it wasn't always spacehell; billions of years ago, it was known as the Realm of Souls, and was completely devoid of daemons. What happened to change that is an event known as The War in Heaven. What happened was that the setting's designated Precursor Race (the Old Ones) got into a colossal fuckoff war with the Ctan and Necrons, and started creating psychic servitor species to throw into the meat grinder when they got desperate. The Warp is more strongly disturbed by the thoughts and feelings of psykers, and you now had mass traumatic death of psykers across the entire galaxy all at once.
Part of the reason Khorne can still be Khorne despite any harm he suffers is because the chaos gods kind of are their associated concepts. Daemons are, in essence, patterns of thought come to life.
Living ideas, if you will.
19:51 The event known as the War in Heaven ( Heaven representing the Warp ) saturated the Warp with the souls of those slain during a war among material gods
One thing you do gotta remember with Slaanesh is he is the god of pleasure yes, but also excess.... And excess doesn't really care about consent.
True, with Slaanesh you start eating the best food availeable in your city and end eating raw babies to try something new
In Angron's defence when he was a child he was enslaved to fight in gladiator pits and they shoved old world tech in his head so if he felt anything other than anger it caused him immense pain. In order to escape the pain he then removed the parts that didn't make him angry.
Two things I wanna drop here.
1. Tzeentch isn't just Change but also Magic. My man the giant Blue Chicken would literally thwart his own plans to subvert your expectations like Ryan Johnson.
2. Skimming over the Emperor's Children was a shame. They exemplify PERFECTION. And Fulgrim is Perfection Incarnate. Also the Noise Marines Lore alone is amazing. Imagine going to a concert, hearing music that makes you feel so good that you start r*ping and murdering your own brothers, tear out your vocal cords to put in speakers, and destroy your enemies with Dubstep. THIS SILENCE OFFENDS SLAANESH! SCREAM TO BE HEARD!
Wait, I thought that the demon that betrayed Khorne barely made a dent in his armor. That paraplegic is the opposite of what I heard
"DO _YOU_ HEAR THE VOICES TOO!?!"
One pretty infamous inaccuracy Bricky puts forward in this video is in regards to Angron. It's not that he removed parts of his that didn't make him angry, but that the planet he landed on as an infant decided to use him as a gladiator slave. When he refused to fight, they put something called "the Butcher's Nails" in his head that cause immense pain when he feels anything that isn't anger. When he would later cover Angron on Adeptus Ridiculous (a podcast where he explains Warhammer 40k to his friend that knew nothing at the start of the series), he actually admitted to feeling bad about the way he simplified him here.
Woot, Thanks Alicia. If you want more Bricky lore explanations. He has one more video specifically talking about each space marine legion.
But he also has a RUclips Podcast called Adeptus Ridiculous where he'll take a 40k topic and chat about it's lore for an hour.
I’ll say this, you’re reactions to Bricky is funny and somehow whole to watch
I can say, without doubts, that I love seeing your reactions to Bricky's videos Alicia!
The way you quickly absorb the info and elaborate is very entertaining, and also I'm happy to see one of my favorite v-tubers diving into 40k shenanigans XD
30:25 bit of clarification here: Angron didn’t put the nails in his own head-he was stranded on a remote planet shortly after being made and the locals turned him into a pit fighter for some gladiator games.
The nails were hard-wired into his brain to up his aggression.
When big Daddy Emperor finally found Angron, he could have removed the nails but chose not to. It’s a large part of the reason why Angron joined the rebellion against his father.
Timestamps for the Timestamp God
1:30 Chaos Daemons
3:00 Khorne
4:10 Tzeentch
6:32 Nurgle
8:32 Slaanesh
24:18 Chaos Space Marines
26:19 Alicia learns how to say "Astartes"
Call me crazy, but I think Astartes for Loyalists and Ass-Tarts for Traitors is the best way to pronounce it.
@@ChaosLierLen At the very least for the Emperor's Children.
Angron actually was FORCED to have the Butcher’s nails put into his skull. He was a slave in a gladiator arena……Also if he feels like the slightest of any other emotion he feels extreme pain
I was literally screaming at Alicia to read chat when they stated screaming about how the brain surgery was forced on Angron XD
I'd like to clarify some points bricky makes about chaos, specifically the "positive" aspects of them.
1. Khorne is Bravery, honor, brutal honesty.
2. Tzeentch is hope, and the foresight to see when someone is trying to cheat you, or screw you over.
3. Nurgle is the cycle of death, life, and it's recurring cycle of rebirth. He also is the peace of mind that from the mightiest king to the lowliest peasant will all be the same.
4. Slaanesh is the purest form of expression, in all forms. Specifically the expression of perfectionism.
Also, Bricky has Angron a bit wrong, he didn't take parts of his brain. It was forced on him, and he has constant migranes as machine wires are buzzing in his skull. I'd be angy too
One of the things Bricky misses about Nurgle is his representation of Death and Rebirth, the Cycle of Life. The gift of the Grandfather is to be a vessel for more life, even in death you can be happy knowing your body will be put to good use
So we mentioned in the stream that some of Bricky’s information is a bit out of date. A lot of the chaos marine stuff came from before Bricky really started getting deep, deep into 40k lore for his podcast. For instance, he says that Angron removed those parts of his brain himself. He did not. He was raised as a slave on a planet and forced into gladiatorial combat. Those things were put into his head to make it so that any feeling other than anger and bloodlust would cause him pain. This process actually took away the innate ability he had to take away other people’s pain.
Highly recommend on some point checking out fan made movie "Helsreach". It shows a lot of insight into the Imperium society through interactions between space marines, soldiers of imperial guard, mechanicus and other members of the Imperium. And performance of Jonathan Keeble, who voices both narrator and main character is just fantastic. Even though (in my opinion) it isn't quite on the same level as the source material, due to the lack of some details and scenes, it's still very well made and enjoyable
i second that
helsreach is top tier
Nurgle loves all life, it just so happens that you can cram more life into most things by loading them with viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites.
The warp was a hellscape LONG before humanity even evolved. It goes back to the War of the Old Ones and C'Tan put everything on edge, then sometime when humanity was just starting to poke around the galaxy the Eldar literally and metaphorically screw up so hard Slaanesh is born and what's already a state where everything is hyper tense goes absolutely bonkers.
The warps kinda like a dumping ground for all sentient beings in the galaxy's emotions and thoughts. The Galaxy in 40k is really tilted towards non stop violence and war, so the major negative emotions associated with the gods is really front and center. Khorne might be the god of honorable combat, loyalty to your brothers in arms, the thrill of competition, but also he's the doting dad of the concept of survival of the fittest, and "fuck that guy i want to kill him". Galaxy wide there's a lot more animals and beings out there killing each other just to eat and survive than there are standing shoulder to shoulder to defend their homes. Now expand that kinda emotional tint in the warp across the scale of countless wars involving billions of sentient beings shooting and stabbing each other it's not a shock that Khorne went full bloodlust mode, as that's the most common emotion relevant to his domain. Same goes with all the other gods, the big negatives win out and really tilt their nature (not that the gods arent kinda just dicks on their own)
Alicia sounds perfect for Slannesh, she even talks in a way that fits that particular chaos gods personality to a tee.
Slaanesh loves Spongebob Squarepants, which is why most Demonettes look like crabs/seahorses
Technically no chaos god is the strongest, rather each gods power depends on the material realm. Khorne is currently the strongest because the galaxy is in a team death match but each of the gods has been the “strongest” at one point or another and it generally fluctuate. It also helps that if one gets too powerful the others will 3v1 them which famously happened to tzentch when he was the strongest.
"Death is finality" Legion of the Damned and several others want to know your location.
Your videos pushed me over, to start collecting my own W40K army.
For the greater good!
You can just call them space marines, that’s what basically everyone does
A bit on the Chaos gods: they get stronger with worship, but they don't need it to survive. Once gods get to a certain point, they basically switch from being batteries, to being generators. Loss of worshippers does weaken them, and thus allows their sibling gods to get a leg up on them, but they nevertheless won't drop past a certain point.
the level of pure SATISFACTION i felt when she got astartes right...
If i didn't welcome slaanesh into my heart before, I DO NOW!!!
Love to see bricky reactions, almost everyone has their own interpretation of stuff so its fun to different opinions and beliefs! Wonderful video and cant wait for more!
Bricky is good as a quick introduction. I would also recommend the "If The Emperor Had A Text-To-Speech Device" series as it is also very informative, along with some solid humor.
Angron actually didn't remove his ability to feel anything but anger, before the Emperor found him, the tyrannical rulers of his homeworld put him in a gladiator pit and tried to get him to kill a gladiator who essentially raised him, and as punishment for not killing said dude, the rulers forcibly put a device known as "The Butcher's Nails" into Angron's head, causing him to not be able to feel any positive emotions.
And then, Angron led a revolution, and as he and his found family of gladiators were about to make their last stand, where they knew they would be killed and decided it was best to die together, and as Angron had made peace with that. The Emperor intentionally teleported only Angron onto his space vessel, leaving Angron's family to die brutally.
Angron's lore is sad as hell.
Like, I may have left out crucial parts, but thats essentially the summary, Angron got fucked over mentally in an inconceivable degree, hell, the Butcher's Nails also cut off a neat ability he had due to being a Primarch which allowed him to take the pain of others unto himself through touch, causing them to not suffer as they died while he felt their pain, and that got cut off because of the butcher's nails.
The thing with Chaos is, that in the end the gods are sentient beings and as sentient beings locked in eternal war against each other, the one thing they crave is power. And the more extreme their worship is the more power they get.
And so they drive their followers behavior to that extreme.
So honor in combat becomes mindless slaughter.
Hope and change becomes scheming and walking over fields of corpses to reach your goals.
Pleasure and joy becomes tortute-murder-sex and gluttony.
The calmness of knowing your end and accepting it becomes embracing sickness and being a mindless spreader of plague.
I've been waiting for this reaction.
I'm going to treat myself watching this, just as soon as I've finished my paperwork at my job 😊
Its whats pushed me through to getting this stupid thing done
Yessssss my children. Remember, Papa Nurgle loves you all. We shall all unite as the great family in his decaying embrace. Also, plague waifus.
Edit: Also if you called him Magnus the Nerd... assuming you had the SUPER force of will to do so... he'd be the first to laugh with you and agree while showing you his library and having his second in command pour you a goblet of the wine he made HIMSELF.
The thing with chaos is that it's basically human thoughts and emotions without moderation. Slaanesh is pleasure and pain, but if you lose the inhibitions, it will take you down a dark and horrific path. Artists will start looking to make the perfect painting by using their own blood is a good midway point for how a person falls to slaanesh.
All it takes is one guy who doesn't want to give in to moderation or let their insecurities run wild with what they should do, and the gods will be right there to whisper in their ear. It's not even a quick jump to horror either, just small baby steps. But chaos has the time and patience to know when to give the smallest nudge in the wrong direction.
What Bricky missed about the Chaos Gods is that they always take things to the Extreme. And if your get on their train, either of the four or them all united, there are no breaks.
A painter will find pleasure in their paintings until they don't, and that is when they go out and kill the neighborhood to paint with their bodily fluids to get to the next level.
There is no such thing as a Moderate Chaos worshiper... it is not even a slippery slope, it is jumping into a hole. Sooner or later you will hit the bottom, there is only different levels of elevation from the bottom before that.
I believe that the reason all of the chaos models embody the messed up aspects of the chaos gods is because, as warhammer is a war game, what we see on the table top are the armies of the gods, the soilders, the demons who are best suited for fightibg against the horrors of the 40k universe. There are probably demons who embody the better sides of the chaos gods, but they don’t really have a reason to show up as much in the war efforts so they just kinda blend into the background. That and literally everything in the warhammer universe wants to fight against one another, so those violent and fucked up emotions and ideas manifest in the warp as a surge in the more violent and fucked up kinds of demons
_"Khorne will not stab you in the back. He will stap you in the face, many, many, times."_
19:52 - You got it. The Grimdark side of the gods is prevalent because it's a wargame. The way people first interacted with the lore is through a game where you need a reason for your little dudes to be fighting the other guy's little dudes.
Time is also not a factor in the Warp, so once Slaanesh was born (for example) s/he always existed. There was The War In Heaven (The Old Ones with the help of the Aeldari and the Krork versus The Necrons with the help**** of the C'tan) millions of years ago, so War has long been a constant of the galaxy.
Chaos TLDR: some of the first known species in the universe got into a war that destroyed most life in the universe, with the creators of most of the modern races (the old ones) having seeded those lifeforms as the war went on and this war was so devastating it made the warp incredibly negative, and since it is in essence the collective mindscape of life, it influenced races to act more war like due to the influence the first galactic scale war had on it, with most races seeded by the old ones being particularly influenced by the warp leading them to become more corrupt as time goes on, leading to 40K
It important to note that the Chaos gods are entities but concepts as well... all warp entities are like standing waves of emotional conceptual stuff that have gained enough momentum to almost carry themselves. Khorn gaining follower gets him more soldier and more influence true but it also gives him more of himself as a thing and in turn give the concept he represent/is more weight in the warp gaining him more influence in a "virtuous" loop.
They also feed into each other as much as they might hate that, More war, leads to more death and more suffering and more enemies making elaborate plans against each other. Disease and famine lead to war, suffering and more dealing and wealing and hope, on and on the action and domain of one god leading people's toughs and actions into the others in a perfect circle of CHAOS UNDIVIDED.
The biggest update came earlier this year with a the awakening of Lion El’Jonson and the attempted ascension of the Arknefane. Most of Bricky’s videos are still correct
Nurgle is also representing the Idea of the cycle of life, like maggots and mushrooms eating and growing from disease and corpses, then they will die and feed other stuff etc...
My head-canon is that chaos is inherently dangerous because each god values one concept to tge exclusion of all others in a manner that is detrimental to life in the materium.
Thing about the chaos gods is that they while what they represent might seem like it can be a good thing they will always want more of it because that makes them more powerful. The chaos gods will keep demanding more until their followers are pushed to such extremes that they seem evil and insane to everyone else.
omg that needs to be a thing in lore lol some fed up guardsman calling a space marine an ass tart XD
i think the main reason why the chaos gods are more evil then good is because humans are more likely to act upon negative emotions then positive ones. as a crude example i would argue its easier to go up to a random person and make him punch you in the face compared to make him hug you (obviously without saying it) and so its a cursed circle, its easier to spread negative emotion which makes the gods strong which makes them spread more negative emotions etc
18:27 I figure the answer to this is kinda similar to how poison can actually be made from medicinal things.
In excess, anything that CURES can KILL.
Likewise, any one of those simple concepts, pushed into the realm of what is "Beyond The Pale", can lead to HORROR and MAYHEM.
I love this video, and the setting attached, Bricky boi did a great job. However, there is only one thing I want to correct/inform. Bricky is very up front that he doesn't know why the gods are more evil than good, so I'll explain for everyone as best as I can.
The Chaos gods, for lack of a better term, *are* the Warp. They are intimately bound to it, capable of unleashing nearly infinite control of it in the areas where their influence reigns. The reason for this is that they are made of the Warp, and yes I am being literal. The Chaos Gods are able to shape the warp because its essentially part of them.
But this is a double edged sword.
For as much power as they wield, they will forever be limited by being shaped of the Warp. After all, an exceptionally powerful Psyker can survive the Warp basically unscathed. Kaldor Draigo, one of the most powerful Space Marines ever, is just Doomguy, motherfucker lives in the Warp slaughtering demons daily because his willpower is THAT fucking strong.
And that being made of the warp is also why they suck: because humanity currently sucks. Most humans in 40k live violent, awful lives, and their every thought and feeling is made real in the warp. One hive world can bear trillions of people in Half its population centers on a bad day, can you imagine the amount of Fuel that gives the warp? And all of that fuel is angry, wishing and hoping for a better future, drowning in decay and filth and sickness, and reveling in any happiness or pleasure they can at any cost.
These thoughts, uncountable scores of humanity driving them, shape the morality and mood of the Gods, until the situation for Humanity improves the Gods are as stuck as humanity, made doubly ironic, because the Gods will seek to drive people to them by making that suffering worse because they can't stop, pushed by the consuming darkness of their power and food.
Chaos also generally goes to the most extreme version of what they embody, which is what makes them evil, they will always push the people under their influence further and further, be it the rage of khorn or the lust and feeling of slaanesh, it is never enough.
0:58 "Remember that I _am_ human"
Wait, you're not actually an elf-rat? I feel so betrayed!
If anything, Alicia, I'm just really glad that you're enjoying 40k content in general. The lore is wild, so much crazy shit happens, and while all of it is pretty fucking horrifying, it's almost always as stupidly awesome as possible. It's like a 9-year-old boy learned about the _idea_ of space marines one day, then said to himself, "But what if they were all 9-feet-tall, had chainsaw swords, and some of them could use crazy space magic?"
No one should rush you on the 40k uploads, there's so much Lore even Tzeentch gives up because he loses track.
Yes, the information is out of date, for instance he will not mention the "Leagues of Votan"(Space Dwarves) because they were released after these videos. Also the changes are a way to remember what has changed.
Alicia Slaanesh is essentially the God of Grape without the G😂
18:14 Best representation of humanity ever. :D
"Bow Chicka Wow Wow - Oooh food!"
Kohrn, the god of winning so hard everybody dies.
The one quote about Khorne that I absolutely love is "KHORNE SHALL ALWAYS HAVE BLOOD! YOUR'S OR THEIRS!"
Fun fact about Nurgle, if you look deeper into it he's technically the god of nature since everything has an end and we all must live through the process to meet that end. That and his Domain is a garden, Korn's is a Arena, Tzeentch is a maze, and Slanessh is a pleasure palace in the shape of the 7 levels of hell.
You need to see "if the emperor had Text to Speech"
Start at Episode 16 and 17, since he literally explains the entire history of the galaxy and the imperium of man.
I love nurgle.
Nurgle is the god of death AND Life. He loves all living things equally in all stages of their death.
A quote I like is he would coo over a newborn child just as much as he would the maggot growing in its eye.
He finds you just as beautiful at birth as you are rotting in your grave.
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Yeah. I can understand wanting to focus on 40K instead of TW: Warhammer/Warhammer Fantasy, since the two are basically different universes with some similarities. I respect that decision.
If you ever get into it, I'd say keep this in mind:
1. The chaos gods/daemon knowledge is basically the same, there is some differences in terms of backstories and different notable characters in those factions.
2. When it comes to learning some stuff, lots of things are similar to earth, so it's basically a fantasy version of our world, with some different original elements (Like the Skaven, which plenty of people really want you to learn of given how they react in chat and how you're "The Rat Queen")
I love seeing someone new learn about something I'm passionate about. Also quick answer about the chaos god power thing different races have different strength souls, while one human soul might be like throwing a cup of water into the ocean it adds up when billions of humans die on the daily in 40k. not an exact science but while other races might have better souls chaos generally sees humans as the biggest bang for there buck.
Can I just say - you are SO GOOD at quickly understanding the chaos gods and the two sides of each of their coins. Much better than any other reactors I’ve seen reacting to this.