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- Failure to properly manage the fatigue created from training can lead to decreased performance and eventually overtraining. Learn how to manage this critical aspect of training from Chad Wesley Smith.
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These videos still stand to be some of the best on RUclips for training structure
It never ceases to amaze me how stubborn some of us including me feel about doing a deload. Even though it could make us stronger!
Tell me about it. Damn i am dumb
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Really important facts he discusses. Big thanks! Did so much wrong the last years regarding too much volume by too intense workouts ended up becoming weaker and weaker.
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Most professional put together video and presentation on youtube!. Didn't leave anything out, and i can agree that temperature therapy doesn't help adaptation, it makes you feel better but then eventually you'll suddenly overreach without realizing. Your videos and articles helped me alot and cleared plenty of confusion, thanks
Oh and do you return from a deload week where you left off or progress from Week 3 of a 4 week block
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Thanks, Chad! Very useful information
Loving the videos Chad! Giving me a far better understanding on how to set up a training routine!
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Chad, great point regarding periodising your recovery strategies. Perhaps linking this with type/focus of stretching techniques during peak & over-reaching weeks is the way to go.
'preciate the content as always.
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Thanks for all of the information, it is all very helpful!
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couldn't help but smile at the 'bad at programming' remark, yes certainly.
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Hi Chad, love all of your videos and other resources on JTS! You have mentioned that volume will contribute more to FATIGUE than intensity will, however, I have also heard you mention before than high intensity loads will be more neurally STRESSFUL to the body. I was wondering what the implications of this were in regards to your MRV and readiness to train. ie. which factor (induced fatigue, or stress) will 'fill the cup' of you CNS quicker? what is the difference between stress and fatigue?
Great question. Muscular, neural, tendon/ligament/joint integrity stresses are all contributing to fatigue. During the different phases they'll contribute differently towards MRV: muscular-hypertrophy, joint/tendon-strength, neural-peaking but all are always present at different levels, just the main contributor will be more what necessitates the deload.
Your Overview of Recovery video link is broken. But thanks so much for all the other info.
Awesome content!
I have two questions:
1. Is a warm shower to avoid? Or do you only mean shower hot and then cold?
2. Can I do high volume stuff (~15-20reps) till failure in my deload week? Then I would use like that because deload is more for the brain (ZNS) than for the muscles and high volume with light weight isn't that taxing for the ZNS.
Two weeks into a cycle and my last couple workouts have had great progression, +1 to +5 reps per set across the board, but I'm starting to feel run down and my joints are achey. Should I deload? Dr Mike recommends deloading when you stop making progress, but I'm still rolling out the noobie gains.
Really helpful, thanks!
such great information!
Could you guys make a video on how reducing inflammation can lessen hypertrophy? I'm worried since I'm vegetarian, and I eat lots of inflammatory lowering foods.
That will not have enough of an effect to worry about
thanks Chad~
I'd love to hear you debate overtraining with Dr. Jordan Feigenbaum. He doesn't believe overtraining exists
Hello can you make a playlist with this series :)? Playlist with Scientific principles of strength training videos. Thank you!
+Mathias Svedman Boom! ruclips.net/p/PL1rSl6Pd49IlsiAgFRWNI1ruDGNrMJ092
You mention in this vid that you increase volume or intensity week over week for 3 weeks, then deload. When I plug my numbers into a hypertrophy
block from your book, my volume for each lift each week could go up or down
depending on the intensity rating of the sessions for that week, there isn’t a
consistent increase in volume. Is this intentional? Does the increase in intensity (and the corresponding decrease in volume) for those lifts still fit into the concept of functional overreaching before the deload? Or does the hypertrophy block setup in the book aim more for increasing volume from microcycle to microcycle instead of week to week?
Chad, in all your videos and articles you recommend higher frequency training for beginner and intermediate athletes. Would it be smart to also look at the athlete age because a 35-40yr athlete may not recover from a higher frequency program even if they are a beginner/intermediate athlete? For example your cowboy method program outline in your book (squatting 3x weekly etc).
LewisSports Trainingsystems too hard to say based on age alone. Training history will play such an important role there. Someone coming from a lifetime of athletics but only 2 years into powerlifting will be able to do much more than someone going from sedentary to 2 years of powerlifting.
Chad, maybe I’m wrong but I was looking at it from Charlie Francis point of view of programming. Considering the athlete age and which recovery methods they are using… If you have an athlete who is 36yrs old - work 40hrs a week, has 3 kids, only sleep 6hrs a night, high to mod daily life stressors, not getting therapy. I think it would be very hard to train on a high freq program or perform any high volume high intensity work. This is one of the reasons why Charlie recommended only 2 speed days for beginner/intermediate athletes. Thoughts?
Yes, the additional information provided in your 2nd comment about work schedule, kids and sleep would likely mean their recovery would be impaired.
Another reason I recommend all my athletes to use "bioforce" hrv esp if they are in there mid 30's. Great tool to have on deck when trying to push the limits...
LewisSports Trainingsystems www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2015/12/27/fatigue-indicators-and-how-to-use-them/
I had a deload week just before I got sick and now I have to do it all over again, ah
Great content. You are mentioning in the clip that one should feel hungry and ready to go after a deload week. What if I am at a place where I feel tired, weak and demotivated all the time. Am I just fatigued and need to step back on volume? I feel like I am making no progress at the moment.
That is a sign of overtraining
That means u didnt schedule and take enough deload weeks so ur fatigue didnt drop enough for ur next mwso cycle and u continued and ramping up fatigue and now you NEED an extended rest. Depending on the depth of the hole u put yourself into it can take anywhere from few off weeks to months and god forbid in some cases a year or two (but for this u need to be a bloody maniac so probably not what u have)
Lets say I catched a cold and couldnt train for a few days, did my body decay fatigue in this time, or was my body too busy with the illness?
It'd depend on the severity of the cold. Also you'll have a loss of fitness there with no training.
This has happened to me a couple of times in the last year. I treat the days that I could not train as an unintended deload. Usually when I come back to training, I am fine. Its also possible that the cold was as a result of overreaching and the body being weakened and more susceptible to colds and things. Again, a sign that the body needs to rest. This is all conjecture, though.
If you were training a field sport athlete doing a bunch of other sprinting/jumping/throwing would you still train in the hypertrophy/strength/peaking blocks or would it look more like inverted Jugg method? Thanks chad!
+Nicky Miranda when you are training for sport, the structure will change because specificity, the most important principle, has changed. Now instead of the target being how much weight you can move in these 3 lifts, it is going to be how good at football you can be. For my guys, that means we go through a GPP/Restoration Block, Alactic Power and Alactic Capacity. I go very in depth during this seminar presentation (fyi...it's 4 hours long and covers training from the first day of the off-season through the end of the season): 360.jtsstrength.com/videos/22/99/juggernaut-football-method
Are you suggesting to take scheduled light days before reloading after three weeks? Or should that just be something you use randomly. I have been going through the book but I'm still confused on this one principle.
Before a deload u want to be functionally overreaching. So a tad bit out of normal range. Then do a deload to recover enough for next mwso cycle. And dont forget after few mesocycles take a prolonged (3 or 4 weeks) maintenance fase where u train VERY lightly or not at all with 1 goal in mind: diminish all fatigue and nurse any injuries. To bring u back to optimal for start of a new mesocycle
Would it be possible for my mrv to be 2-4 sets total per week on a movement? i’m saying this because i’ve noticed specifically on my squat and bench i’ve done a few weeks at a time of only doing 1 topset for each movement (and a few accesories like leg extensions leg curls etc at a still low volume) i notice progress session to session and i usually end up undershooting rpe on weights, keep in mind i’ve been lifting for about 2 years so i wouldn’t say this is complete newbie gains, but then once i increase to doing 2 straight sets for squat and same for deadlifts i notice i feel like shit session to session, everybody i’ve talked to about this says that’s not possible so i’m kind of in a confused limbo
That would sound more like your MEV (minimum effective volume) or MAV (maximum adaptive volume)
Here's another awfully tough question in your comments section. I hit a 70 pound PR on the deadlift by simply working on technique, form, and mobility. Now I'm struggling to keep up with my programming because what is 70% now was 85% just a month ago. How should I cope with this? I've been doing 70% for 3x5 twice a week because it made sense in my head ("low" weight, low volume) but the more I think about it I might be hitting that "overtraining" level of fatigue that you warned about in this video.
Any help would be a god send.
just because your 1rm jumped doesn't mean you are read to do the new 70% for reps. work your way into the new found strength
Yea Id just split the difference. Increase by 7.5%
+Juggernaut Training Systems thank you for your help, I'm still very new to this stuff. I'm just going to restart my cycle and use what used to be 70% and is now 55% for a few sets of five twice a week, increasing in weight each time, until I'm at where I should be.
is using the prilepin's table and using your overloading principle a bad basis to setup your reps and set scheme? for example if i were to create a hypertrophy block using prilepin's table and your overloading principle, i'd start off witha 3x6 at 70% which is the optimal rep and set range for that percentage according to prilepin'd table and then just add on a set with each week.
and to add to that will that be enough to reach a functional overreaching state?
I am no expert but Prilepins table was created for olympic lifts, wich are a lot more technical and so the focus of prilepins table is to improve the technical skill and strength, not really hypertrophy. I don´t think it would do particulary good for designing a hypertrophy program.
Do you apply functional overreaching to all three lifts in that third week before deloading? If so, do you overreach on certain lifts with volume and the others with intensity or some combination? I assume this can get complicated based on lifter goals, experience, training cycle focus, etc. but would love to hear discussion on this topic.
You could really get intricate with this but I'd really just say that I try to be generally overreached going into a deload. For me that means having medium and heavy squat sessions, medium deadlift session, heavy and light bench sessions in the week prior to a deload. This will help you understand my programming structure better:
ruclips.net/video/eBIInwyXIfA/видео.html
+Juggernaut Training Systems So If I am understanding correctly, you plan those training sessions such that they put you in a generally overreached state by the end of the week. Stemming from my initial question, in your planning, is the MRV for overreaching an overall measurement across the three lifts for the week or do you look at it as an MRV for each training session? or the MRV for each lift (as in spreading it across the 2 days of squat or bench)?
+Tyler Desplenter for each lift
+Juggernaut Training Systems thank you very much, i really appreciate the information
what about warm baths, are they benefical during a training cycle or are they something to avoid (like at your home not profesionaly)
They can have a therapeutic quality but you don't want to use extended heat based therapy because it will dehydrate you and negatively affect recovery.
How long do i need to take off from exercise to recover from CNS fatigue/ overtraining?
If you have real overtraining it could be a month or up to 6 months depending on how bad it is. It's bad when you're sick all the time and really irritable and not sleeping.
Should I wait til I fail to complete volume in a workout or know in advance when to deload? If I know in advance, what if i could have had more weeks of hard training for that phase or mesocycle?
+Liam Seagrave Ideally you'll want to have planned deloads but as you learn your own MRV, you may have to deload by feel early on.
did u ever do the phase potentiation video? I can't seem to find it
ruclips.net/video/iAjgTcBJXLU/видео.html
Chad, how do I go about asking you a couple questions directly about peaking/up coming meets?
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After a deload should you go straight back to the weights you were struggling with or take it back a few kilo's?
Drop it back. Let's say volume increased in each week 1, 2 and 3 then you deload. Start the next block at 1.5 and go 2.5, 3.5. Know what I'm saying?
+Juggernaut Training Systems I do! Thank you. I bought the book a couple of months looking to train smarter. I've added a lot more volume but wasn't sure how long I could keep adding more weight each week, as I was getting pretty fatigued pretty quick. I was previously doing squat everyday for about a year going up to a single and coming down for a few triples. I've been listening to the Mark Bell power cast a lot recently and all the greats said volume is the way to go. Thanks for all the information :)
+Juggernaut Training Systems . Does chad have any programming articles or books for strongman training/competing?
This will help: ruclips.net/video/IuAZbsjniKc/видео.html
and this: www.jtsstrength.com/?s=strongman
Thanks, Boss.
Training is for building
Awesome!!
How should training session/main lift frequency be regulated during the deload week? For instance if I squat 3x/week normally, should I perhaps reduce my squat frequency to 2x/week to reduce total volume? Or should I proceed normally with lower set-rep volume at 60-70%. intensity?
Either is fine.
Juggernaut Training Systems thanks, I appreciate the quick response.
I didn't get from this video why would you overreach in a first place? Why don't just have 2 normal training weeks instead of 1 overreach and 1 deaload week?
What do you think about 531 training ?
Chad: Isn't there evidence that heat therapy, such as sauna, promotes hypertrophy via "shock proteins"? I know it's been brought up be more than one person with education in the sciences.
am i supposed to apply any progressive overload during a deloading microcycle?
Cellar Door no
Would you avoid NSAIDs as well?
mpoll1016 if the choice is use the nsaid or don't train, then use them but otherwise yes they'd have a similar effect of dampening adaptation signaling.
No. This has been debunked. Feel free to reduce your inflammation any way you see fit. See here: startingstrength.com/article/inflammation_sullivan
Can you make mesocycle way shorters? Let's say you train really hard and high volume for 3 days, day 1 legs, day 2 back, day 3 pecs shoulders triceps biceps and then something like 3 days off, would you go through stimulation / recovery / adaptation and then can start again? Not sure if I'm saying something stupid or not :p
Great video by the way
I could never see something that short being feasible but a 2 week cycle wouldn't be out of the question for an advanced, higher weight class, very fast twitch athlete.
Juggernaut Training Systems
That's what I had to do when following Georges Leeman's coaching, I'm glad I found renaissance periodization.
Laughing so hard at the portion around 1:32 HAHAHAHA
as in you disagree?
All this reference to MRV would mean alot more if you told us what those letters mean...
Maximum Recoverable columns. This video is part of a series of videos that all build on each other.
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+Juggernaut Training Systems that helps! Thank you!
+rawnie79
Well done . You accomplished something on this day
I just finished an 8 week program that I designed. Program went well and I felt very strong. However, I did a week at 90% on all three lifts thinking I would go for rep PR's the next week at 95% The week at 90% felt great. For instance, I worked up to a 500lb double on the dead lift; which is a training PR for me. However, this week, the 95% week, I was supposed to dead lift 515lbs for reps and I couldn't even move it. My max is 540. My question is, should I have worked 95% with my 90% the week earlier? Was that 90% week really my peak week? The same happened in my bench. I felt very strong benching 90% and went backwards doing 95% the next week.
I set peaking blocks up as a high, medium, super high, deload. So week 1 would be about opener or a bit higher, let's say up to 93% for 1. Then week 2 is lower intensity for a bit higher volume to reduce neural fatigue but keep fitness high like 85% for 3x2. Then week 3 would be up to 98%x1, then a deload.
+Juggernaut Training Systems Thank you. Makes total sense.
+Juggernaut Training Systems Would you recommend a deload this week and start a new training cycle? That was my plan. I will work in your suggested peaking plan for this next cycle when I get to that block.
+MrPetey51 That likely happened because you weren't neurally recovered from the first week. The way I set up a peak is Week 1-Heavy, Week 2-Medium, Week 3-Super Heavy, Week 4-Deload. In Week 1, work up to a single at about 93-94% (5-8 sets total above 85%), or something you see between a 1st and 2nd attempt. Week 2, volume will be a little higher to keep fitness up but at a lower intensity to decay fatigue and allow for neural recovery, so 85%x3x2 could be appropriate. In week 3, you'll go to a single a bit above a planned 2nd attempt, something like 98% and doing 3-5 total sets above 85%.
So, for this week drop to 85% for 3x2 and the week after go 98%
This video was awesome. Thank you! I’m going to implement de-loads as I related to a lot that was said- and have always been fearful of not implementing them correctly and losing progress lol.
I do cold showers everyday? Is that bad?
Like 1-3-5min. Depends on the day.
It’s good for you :)
Chad in your video about how to design a Strength Block (ruclips.net/video/eBIInwyXIfA/видео.html) you talk about structuring your week so that you take Hi, Med and Low days. By mixing it like this, do you ever let yourself hit the Overreaching state? I mean that final week prior to Deload still only has one "High" day...
The final week is Med Squat, Hi Bench, Med Dead, Off, Hi Squat, Low Bench. So the 2 Hi and 2 Med lower body days definitely do, but it is also about the cumulative fatigue of the entire cycle.
Its not Easier overtrain in mma As an example but is harder to program thats why it easier to fail in programing
Mr Smith, I like that hat you're wearing. where do I find one?
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Wait.... Dampening adaptation... NSAIDs are a no go?
+Cctmadden they would have a similar effect but its also striking a balance of feeling good enough to do the necessary training or not. The dampened effect is very minimal too in the case of 1 instance. 1 ice bath isn't going to ruin a training cycle, 1 handful of advil isn't going to stop you from getting strong, they make make it possible to have a good session when you would have had to take a day off instead but over the long haul it isn't something you want to avoid consistently relying on.
+Juggernaut Training Systems slam 800mg after every peaking session. Technically short term, stance?
+Cctmadden are you using them to deal with specific pain to be able to do the next training session?
+Juggernaut Training Systems you bet
+Cctmadden Then in that case, yea you're gonna need to take them because even though they may dampen adaptation, it will be very minimal, compared to that of missing a training session due to pain.
Could speed work count for a deload?
Andrew Cameron I find speed work to be less taxing on my CNS
hey Chad awesome video! one question is the Juggernaut Method appropiate for beginner-intermediate lifter? my main focus is hypertrophy, but obviously to get strong! thank
s for the info!
Definitely appropriate. It's not exactly how I'd program now, that'd be like the stuff I post at 360.jtsstrength.com
yuh
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3 weeks then a 1 week deload sounds a little stupid?
Ovetrain is very realy very hard in powerlifters
wut
Dem nipples
yeah that 1 percent will always be 1 percent. Idc if my bench is only 388 lbs compared to 400 lbs I listened to your advice. It sounds right. You realize most of us arent elite level athletes right? You didn't even recommend intermittent streching between sets which can lead to up to 13 percent increase in gains. So you know. Dropped the ball there buddy lol like in a bad way.