All jokes aside, Monsoon is pretty spot on. The very definition of meme goes beyond funny videos and images; memes are ideas and concepts which can easily spread. To become a meme is to embody an idea or concept. And to top it all off, memes are designed to spread. The moment a particular meme gets recognized enough, it will infect all who view it with its ideas, and turn them into potential carriers.
As Richard Dawkins elaborated on the meme "Ideas are like viruses" so does Monsoon extend upon Mr. Dawkins' conclusions. -A meme applied from MGS2 to 4 to Risings: Revengeance the birth, the maturation the conclusion. Lest these are the ramblings of a drunk man on the genes of culture trough extraordinary media on Christmas eve. Merry christmas or what ever your next long vacation is tovarich, toveri, buddy, friend or adversary!
I like the detail that because Sam was intending to fight and kill Raiden, when he was about to Unsheathe his sword, he had his finger on it’s trigger.
@@TheFirstCurse1 I just saw it as trigger discipline, it was going to be a fight to the death, and you should never have your finger on the trigger of a gun when it’s aimed at something you aren’t intending to kill.
Raiden is a psychopath, and Solidus exploited that in his childhood. Somewhere between that and mg2 Jack managed to bury it, part of that was due to meeting his wife but should have been explained more for sure. We just know he's very mentally ill, as he said "I learned from a young age killing felt good... REALLY good..."
He was kidnapped by the patriots and made him as a subject (mgs4) then after mgs4 incident, he’s body was upgraded into that oh and if you’re wondering he’s aging looks well it went through the years coz... every person ages oh and he’s 41 yrs old in that game
@Benjamin Marston1 1) There's something called "re-playability" and enjoying a game chief 2) Are you a goddamn speedrunner or are you just playing the game in Easy/Normal? Because there's no way a normal MGR playthrough only lasts barely 2 hours
@@littlemoth4956 not only does he like crushing them, he heals and gets his energy back with every one he crushes. Imagine training all of your life to take down one SPECIFIC person, you miss one attack, and your one mistake becomes his strength and your fatality. I swear, this man could probably win WWIII on his own if he could just find more and more people to chop away at.
Two edgylords being edgy... One has a fucking sai and follows his own philosophy... Another don't know his own personality and realize that his ability is kill and want to let 'er rip.
3:26 That shift in Monsoon’s face is the best shit ever. He was just trying to fuck with and demoralize his enemy by gaslighting Raiden, while also making a good point about Raiden’s blatant killing. But then when Raiden AGREES, and in a tone that suggests it’s something he already knew, you can see in Monsoon’s face that he fucked up, and probably would have ended up better off just fighting Raiden from jump.
The sadness behind the "you've lost your mind." when he realises he just made his opponent several times more dangerous and bloodthirsty after Sam did such a good job demotivating him into literally not fighting back.
I remember sending this speech to a professor in college once as the weekly assignment we had to do of sending in a tumblr post. He sent out an email saying no posts of the "meme" variety after the first time, trying to be so philosophical and poetic and deep on tumblr of all things. So. This was the first thing I sent directly after that lmao. A whole speech on memes.
@@unknownfactor6489 Unfortunately not, I wish he did in some note! But, it did feel like he was a lot more harsh towards me in class after that lmao. Far more critical of anything I showed or did.
Depending on the subject he tought Monsoon's speech can be an entryway into speaking about at least a couple of things on a deeper level. Evolution (Dawkins) and online culture off the top of my head. Maybe it just wasn't relevant to the subject at hand. Bending memes (the funny image/video variety) into teaching can be nice if it works though.
@@jon9828 The thing for this was he was my poetry professor and said at first if it was an image or anything we found interesting to post it on our tumblr page for him and others in the class to see and wasn't even things we just showed or read to the class in class. He didn't say it had to specifically be super artsy and deep just things we liked and this was in about 2015 too?. so not sure what he was expecting from tumblr then lmao.
Little detail; when Raiden punches the ground Sam looks genuinely confused, verging on shocked. Having combed through his cutscenes, I can honestly say it's the only time he's ever visibly been surprised, including when Armstrong took his arm. To hurt a man, or even kill him, is one thing - but to shake him up, make someone like Sam worry? That's a whole new level of power. Stuff like this is why MGS/MGR are just fantastic series.
@@purpleperfection6304 How the fuck is Stains Of Time your favorite? It's the worst boss theme of them all BY FAR. It's still decent but I can't see why you'd like it THAT MUCH.
@Rebel Propaganda The Hot Wind Blowing is FAR better than Stains Of Time. I don't know how you could dislike that godlike boss theme. Maybe you're a hardcore American nationalist?
I would be more surprised on why they didn't attack him while he was removing the sword. Like, he stood there for more than 20 seconds, with both of it's hands occupied and his head down.
@@The_D_ray Dude, are you kidding? If I impaled a guy who had killed dozens to hundreds of my comrades and he not only survived, but started laughing and _turned off his fucking pain inhibitors_ in front of me, and be scared out of my mind. I'm honestly surprised they attacked _at all_ after that
4:50 i was thinking about that "no" Raiden says and i got two options about it 1° Raiden is denying Jack's return and feeling bad to bring it back, but he knows he needed to do it 2- He just saying "no" cause they can't kill him no more
I think it's actually a final message to Monsoon, a warning not to attack him, otherwise he'll stop holding back and unleash the other half of his personality....of course, that being the half that can't be stopped.
I guess a positive way at looking at this is that to be truly free, you must be honest with yourself, and find out what you really believe in. But at the same time, you also have to accept who you are, flaws and all. Recognize you are human, identify your strengths and weaknesses. In short, know yourself, but also accept and love yourself for who you are.
Yes because if Raiden really WAS just Jack the Ripper, just someone who loved killing, he would never have gotten this far. This acceptance was only one step on a larger journey. It's his unstoppable will that truly sets him free (as we see with Armstrong)
Man, there is something intensely satisfying about seeing hero characters abandon all pretenses that they were "Paladins of Good" in a way. Raiden here acknowledges a part within all of us. A Rage, an Anger, a Fear and Pain that motivates many of us to fight. Raiden tried to make some sense of it, to fit into the "Law and Order" of the world, but in the end; he is just a force of nature like the villains. Which isnt necessarily a bad thing, We've seen plenty of times within this series people weaponize "good ideals" to do bad and "bad ideals" to do bad. Raiden here presents the conventional "Darker" parts of our personalities and utilizes it to do tremendous good albeit in a somewhat hypocritical manner. He switches from lawful good to chaotic good in this scene. He does what all of us wanted him to do, to Let er' rip, fuck the talk of ideals, we know he is justified. A moment where the villains hoped to crumble his world view, they instead get him to see clearer than ever before. He will be a raging force for good; forever and always.
What I always loved about this mission was that you spent most of it learning that the soldiers you fought had their fears and doubts suppressed artificially so they could focus on fighting. They weren't psychotic killers underneath, they just had tech to make them fight like that. So the moment the one guy stabs Jack in the gut and he just laughs? That hesitation as the soldier steps backwards? That's those fear inhibitors FAILING. They're not enough anymore. That is the moment that man's brain re-learned what fear is and shidded his cyborg pants in absolute terror.
@@unknownfactor6489 i think he mean that he fight because of pain, Raiden persona is fighting for the weak people like him when he was young so they don't have suffering pain that he once experienced, but Jack the Ripper fight because he like to kill, enjoy hurting people, makes them feel pain
@@ProudElizabethHusband HOLY SHIT. I never fucking realized that. I thought that it was just some cheesy edgy line they put in that made no sense. But now... GOD FUCKING DAMN!!!
honestly, the best part about this is Stains Of Time kicking in just before it starts as you get the zoom in of the sadistic grin on Monsoon. I lost it when i saw that shit
4:49 bit of a crack head theory but I think that "No!" is a final tinge of guilt he feels knowing what's going to happen to the soldier when he stabs him. He knows that's going to be what pushes him over the edge and he knows the soldier is going to die but he doesn't have the strength or the want to resist it so all he can do is mutter a protest in the vain hope that he'll change his mind and save himself.
Yes! Im guessing many people don't take metal gear rising seriously because of how over-the-top it is. I understand though, the game is pretty goofy. But some(not all) people don't seem appreciate the game much, and just enjoy the memes. Kinda sucks
I was guilty of this. I laughed at this game for the memes. A month ago, I found the soundtracks, listened to them, and then bought the game and proceeded to play the best video game I've played in years.
He expected Raiden to be just like what said said he was: weak, moral, blind to what the world really is. But Raiden (or rather, jack the ripper) is the complete opposite
Monsoon really thought he had Jack with his whole social darwinist speech and Jack basically went, "You know what? You're right. Killing's fun, so how about I kill you?"
I think it’s really interesting. Monsoon is a very apathetic character. Very closed off and cold to the world and an extremely Nihilistic character. But he seems the most augmented out of the winds. Obviously Mistral has her arms and Sam only has the one arm. Sundowner has those panels but monsoon is clearly the least human both physically and mentally. It’s the whole “if you replace every body part with a machine are you still human debate.”
Raiden is entirely machine aside from his brain, though I know what you're going for but it doesn't seem like the intention in design, rather that it was meant to display how much he'd sold his life to Desperado and the PMC life; that there was no going back for him, no redemption of his character he's a prisoner of his own ideologies as much as he is a prisoner of war, they all drove him down a cold, chaotic, relentless path
Can we just appreciate how smoothly Jack’s VA goes between the Raiden and Ripper voices and how he’s able to convey very different energy for the same character with what is ultimately a slight tweak?
Internet memes are still memes though. Ideas that are powerful and influential because of their ability to spread so far and so quickly, even transcending generations and becoming immortal.
The fact Sam knew that he just changed on the spot and ordered the guards to quickly finish him off speaks volumes to how much Jac The Ripper is a threat.
this is after mgs2 AND mgs4 (easily recognized by him saying "After the Patriots, (referring to how him and Solid Snake beat the Patriots in mgs4)i thought i could have a normal life.")
A little detail I find intensely powerful is how when monsoon orders his goon to attack Raiden, you can see Raiden mutter “No!”. He knows how destructive and psychopathic Jack is, and he genuinely doesn’t want him to be unleashed, practically begging them to not allow such a thing to happen. But when the pain of battle overwhelms him, Raiden disappears altogether, and the ripper is the only one left to wreak destruction and death on those around him. Powerful stuff.
It's pretty hard to tell, but I think it was Sam who said no, not Raiden. Sam wanted to fight Raiden since the start of the game, so it makes perfect sense
Now in this scene Raiden had become more like gray fox the original cyborg ninja... The way of speak, the way of enjoying the pain... How badass they look... Although i enjoy hearing gray fox's voice in the original metal gear solid the way that he speak like corpse... Both Raiden and gray fox was my favourite characters...
Raiden journey Mgs 2 : "i was trying to be someone i wasn't by loving what wasn't real" Mgs 4 : " i am lightning, the rain transformed" MGR : " i think its time for jack to let it rip.!" Dude just went from running fools errand into a man who fight for what he believes in (kinda ironic since thats that armstrong wanted)
1:04 That's a reference to the quote "Who watches the Watchmen?", also explored in Alan Moore'e Watchmen. "Who saves the weak from the man who saves the weak?" paraphrases that idea. That meme, as it were, that asks, "who holds the enforcer accountable to his own ideals?"
I like how monsoon and Sam are almost opposites Monsoon has a lot of enhancements and talk a lot ( like a lot a lot) Sam has minimal enhancements and doesn’t talk all too much
Legit though, I have no idea how this guy ended up in my dreams last night. I dreamed he worked as a basic employee at some reception hall, and was moving around chairs in the main hall, setting up for an event.
A quote i remember if someone can tell me where its from it'd be appreciated. "I beseech thee villian. attack them, Taunt them, ridicule them, KILL them. But never, NEVER take everything away from the hero. For when you've taken everything, their friends their family their ideals, then they will become something worse than you villain. Worse than you can imagine. They will become a monster. And no one. Not you, the forces of good, the demons and magic creatures of the land, not even the gods themselves! will be able to stop them." This quote rings in my head everytime I see this exact scene and I i cant tell if it makes it more epic or more scary.
*"That nickname you love so much...wanna know how I got it?"* *"Actually, why don't I give you a demonstration."* *"I think it's time for Jack..."* *"TO LET HER RIP!"*
Monsoon says “you lost your mind” like jack went crazy in front of him. Jack has been crazy before he hit puberty, hes just really good and keeping The Ripper in check.
I watched the incorrect summary of this game, and when it said that this speech was an actual game lines, i had to come here to check. I am baffled it is
![Metal Gear Rising Revengeance - All Bosses [Revengeance, S rank, No damage]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AbEZmruW9Co/mqdefault.jpg)
![Metal Gear Rising Revengeance - All Bosses [Revengeance, S rank, No damage]](/img/tr.png)
![Metal Gear Rising Revengeance - Monsoon Boss Fight [4K 60FPS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ibZ7QJrEf80/mqdefault.jpg)
"Kill or be killed, Jack!"
"I choose kill."
"what-"
*"DEAD ON"*
B U L L S E Y E
PLAY TIME’S OVER
D O A S Y O U P L E A S E
STOP STOP IT
E N O U G H
All jokes aside, Monsoon is pretty spot on.
The very definition of meme goes beyond funny videos and images; memes are ideas and concepts which can easily spread. To become a meme is to embody an idea or concept.
And to top it all off, memes are designed to spread. The moment a particular meme gets recognized enough, it will infect all who view it with its ideas, and turn them into potential carriers.
Hehe. Amongus
true shit
As Richard Dawkins elaborated on the meme "Ideas are like viruses" so does Monsoon extend upon Mr. Dawkins' conclusions.
-A meme applied from MGS2 to 4 to Risings: Revengeance the birth, the maturation the conclusion.
Lest these are the ramblings of a drunk man on the genes of culture trough extraordinary media on Christmas eve. Merry christmas or what ever your next long vacation is tovarich, toveri, buddy, friend or adversary!
Well yeah, that's the science of memetics
@@greengoat5654 mema what ?
You know...from a pure design standpoint Monsoon is actually a fairly unique character.
I like how you cant see his eyes
Actually not his baseform it's also used in Shinobi and the bouncer
Physically? Yes.
Character-wise? No. He's just a one dimensional nihilist.
Yeah I was talking about his appearance only lol
@@TheFirstCurse1 yeah, but the meme stuff was interesting
Memes. The DNA of the soul. You say it , boi
True as a dodo
nice pfp
I thought this was a joke at first
In Richard Dawkins elaboration, not the one that every internet hobos are familiar with
2:03
I like the detail that because Sam was intending to fight and kill Raiden, when he was about to Unsheathe his sword, he had his finger on it’s trigger.
Yeah I love that detail. He was so excited and ready to put him down.
@@TheFirstCurse1 I just saw it as trigger discipline, it was going to be a fight to the death, and you should never have your finger on the trigger of a gun when it’s aimed at something you aren’t intending to kill.
@@OKTANE0 That's a good observation as well actually. Damn, that sheathe is more symbolic than I thought.
I like to think that during this shot, Sam was making the face of "You wanna fight him? Okay fam but he gonna kill you."
@Soft Tofu wdym by that? I didn't even notice until i saw this comment
*MEME* or be *MEMED* Jack!
Jose Tomas Campos Robledano 4chan taught me that
Your memes! End here!
Troll or be trolled Jack!
Jake Paul taught me that.
And then he got memed
This game is a MEME. LOL XD
After putting 50 hours into this game, I still can't understand how this is the Raiden from MGS2.
Raiden is a psychopath, and Solidus exploited that in his childhood. Somewhere between that and mg2 Jack managed to bury it, part of that was due to meeting his wife but should have been explained more for sure. We just know he's very mentally ill, as he said "I learned from a young age killing felt good... REALLY good..."
He was kidnapped by the patriots and made him as a subject (mgs4) then after mgs4 incident, he’s body was upgraded into that oh and if you’re wondering he’s aging looks well it went through the years coz... every person ages oh and he’s 41 yrs old in that game
@Benjamin Marston1 1) There's something called "re-playability" and enjoying a game chief
2) Are you a goddamn speedrunner or are you just playing the game in Easy/Normal? Because there's no way a normal MGR playthrough only lasts barely 2 hours
@Benjamin Marston try revengeance difficulty then :)
Did you not play MGS4 get fucking with it slow poke.
This game has the most batshit insane plot i felt like I could have a brain aneurysm any second while playing it
10/10 would play again
You're batshit insane
You're batshit insane
Your batshit insane
ur batshit insane
aneurysms suck though, they killed my mum, this game is actually cool and much better than an aneurysm.
"On all levels except physical, I am a meme!"
*[ E X Q U I S I T E ]*
Raiden's whole deal is basically "yeah, I might be a borderline-sociopath that loves to murder. But I'm still gonna beat your ass."
Sociopath is WAY underselling a guy that likes crushing spines
@@littlemoth4956 not only does he like crushing them, he heals and gets his energy back with every one he crushes. Imagine training all of your life to take down one SPECIFIC person, you miss one attack, and your one mistake becomes his strength and your fatality. I swear, this man could probably win WWIII on his own if he could just find more and more people to chop away at.
@@gladoseon4117tbf, killing felt good for him
Monsoon is so edgy his mask is literally half fedora lol
Two edgylords being edgy...
One has a fucking sai and follows his own philosophy...
Another don't know his own personality and realize that his ability is kill and want to let 'er rip.
Fedora Dude VS the local Weeb
M’lady
Monsoon is a good boy, though. His smile is beautiful.
Bruh that's more of a bowler hat than a fedora.
3:26 That shift in Monsoon’s face is the best shit ever.
He was just trying to fuck with and demoralize his enemy by gaslighting Raiden, while also making a good point about Raiden’s blatant killing.
But then when Raiden AGREES, and in a tone that suggests it’s something he already knew, you can see in Monsoon’s face that he fucked up, and probably would have ended up better off just fighting Raiden from jump.
WASH AWAY THE ANGER
☺️
🙁
@@carnificina300 HERE I STAND BENEATH THE WARM AND SOOTHING RAIN
The sadness behind the "you've lost your mind." when he realises he just made his opponent several times more dangerous and bloodthirsty after Sam did such a good job demotivating him into literally not fighting back.
@@dynomite9524 THE DROPLETS FALLING DOWN ON THE TERRAIN
So raiden is pretty much a villain who just happens to work for the good guys
He's not a bad guy
@@deathripperfromhell7977 But also not the greatest. It's his nature.
@@Random__Dude. RULES OF NATURE
Nah he fight to do good but still really likes to butcher
Violence breeds violence
I remember sending this speech to a professor in college once as the weekly assignment we had to do of sending in a tumblr post. He sent out an email saying no posts of the "meme" variety after the first time, trying to be so philosophical and poetic and deep on tumblr of all things. So. This was the first thing I sent directly after that lmao. A whole speech on memes.
Did he have any comments on this ?
@@unknownfactor6489 Unfortunately not, I wish he did in some note! But, it did feel like he was a lot more harsh towards me in class after that lmao. Far more critical of anything I showed or did.
Depending on the subject he tought Monsoon's speech can be an entryway into speaking about at least a couple of things on a deeper level.
Evolution (Dawkins) and online culture off the top of my head.
Maybe it just wasn't relevant to the subject at hand. Bending memes (the funny image/video variety) into teaching can be nice if it works though.
@@jon9828 The thing for this was he was my poetry professor and said at first if it was an image or anything we found interesting to post it on our tumblr page for him and others in the class to see and wasn't even things we just showed or read to the class in class. He didn't say it had to specifically be super artsy and deep just things we liked and this was in about 2015 too?. so not sure what he was expecting from tumblr then lmao.
>school assignment to send a post off tumblr
When jack said pain is why I fight I legit got sent back to the Stone Age with how much nostalgia hit me
Wait its a reference ? To what ?
@@unknownfactor6489 the fact that this game came out 9 years ago
@@mercury2157 damn, I've been playing it for 7 years. Time moves so fast.
@@unknownfactor6489gray fox's quote. The first cyborg ninja from mgs1
@@speedking7224Omg here I was thinking of THE Pain from mgs3 but no yeah you're right. That IS a Grey Fox quote
Little detail; when Raiden punches the ground Sam looks genuinely confused, verging on shocked. Having combed through his cutscenes, I can honestly say it's the only time he's ever visibly been surprised, including when Armstrong took his arm. To hurt a man, or even kill him, is one thing - but to shake him up, make someone like Sam worry? That's a whole new level of power. Stuff like this is why MGS/MGR are just fantastic series.
i love monsoon's uncertain step back at 6:11, guy knows something ain't quite right anymore
It was at this moment, he knew, he f**** up
the guitar riff was one of the hypest moments in any game i've ever played
That guitar riff gets me excited for the fight every god damn time. It's my favorite song in the OST
@@purpleperfection6304 How the fuck is Stains Of Time your favorite? It's the worst boss theme of them all BY FAR.
It's still decent but I can't see why you'd like it THAT MUCH.
@@TheFirstCurse1 chill out jesus christ
@@TheFirstCurse1 This mf when people enjoy things: 😡🤬
@Rebel Propaganda The Hot Wind Blowing is FAR better than Stains Of Time. I don't know how you could dislike that godlike boss theme. Maybe you're a hardcore American nationalist?
Whenever Kojima writes dialogue: "Now that's a pretty meme. Exquisite!"
It wasn't written by Kojima
4:40 i like how monsoon takes a step back like "oh fuck."
Sam tells me you see your weapon as a tool. Something that saves lives -- a means of justice.
Now there's a pretty meme.
Exquisite!
6:29 don't mind me, just appreciating Sam's moment
Alternative ending:
4:46 Monsoon: Kill him!
Cyborg guard charges at Raiden and decapitates him, instead of impaling
Raiden dies
*Credits roll*
I wouldn't be surprised if he did and it still didn't kill him at this point.
@@MementoMori7777 he dodged a chainsaw swung at his face at fuck knows what speed, who's to say he won't dodge a sword
I would be more surprised on why they didn't attack him while he was removing the sword.
Like, he stood there for more than 20 seconds, with both of it's hands occupied and his head down.
@@The_D_ray Dude, are you kidding? If I impaled a guy who had killed dozens to hundreds of my comrades and he not only survived, but started laughing and _turned off his fucking pain inhibitors_ in front of me, and be scared out of my mind. I'm honestly surprised they attacked _at all_ after that
From how I remember the other cinematics... If the Cyborg tries to decapitate him, the blade would just bounce off his chin again.
4:50 i was thinking about that "no" Raiden says and i got two options about it
1° Raiden is denying Jack's return and feeling bad to bring it back, but he knows he needed to do it
2- He just saying "no" cause they can't kill him no more
5:20 do you know this soundtrack name please?
Most likely #2
I didn't notice that "no" until I saw your comment
I think it's actually a final message to Monsoon, a warning not to attack him, otherwise he'll stop holding back and unleash the other half of his personality....of course, that being the half that can't be stopped.
Small possibility that he was pretending to be weak. Maybe, just maybe.
00:53
Gotta love how Sam turns around like "And there he goes"
Him to the grunts: “this fuckhead does speeches? What are we now, the church?”
I guess a positive way at looking at this is that to be truly free, you must be honest with yourself, and find out what you really believe in.
But at the same time, you also have to accept who you are, flaws and all. Recognize you are human, identify your strengths and weaknesses.
In short, know yourself, but also accept and love yourself for who you are.
@IMTHEBEST IM#1
Thanks! XD
_/wholesome/_
Plays MGR.
Achieved enlightenment.
Yes because if Raiden really WAS just Jack the Ripper, just someone who loved killing, he would never have gotten this far. This acceptance was only one step on a larger journey. It's his unstoppable will that truly sets him free (as we see with Armstrong)
"I may be cringe, but that makes me free"
I love this part because honestly it makes you almost feel like you're playing a villain.
I think it's time for Jack... to let'er rip!
Man, there is something intensely satisfying about seeing hero characters abandon all pretenses that they were "Paladins of Good" in a way. Raiden here acknowledges a part within all of us. A Rage, an Anger, a Fear and Pain that motivates many of us to fight. Raiden tried to make some sense of it, to fit into the "Law and Order" of the world, but in the end; he is just a force of nature like the villains. Which isnt necessarily a bad thing, We've seen plenty of times within this series people weaponize "good ideals" to do bad and "bad ideals" to do bad. Raiden here presents the conventional "Darker" parts of our personalities and utilizes it to do tremendous good albeit in a somewhat hypocritical manner. He switches from lawful good to chaotic good in this scene. He does what all of us wanted him to do, to Let er' rip, fuck the talk of ideals, we know he is justified. A moment where the villains hoped to crumble his world view, they instead get him to see clearer than ever before. He will be a raging force for good; forever and always.
One of the best sums ups of the scene out there
Didnt read
👏👏👏
@@AldoMarrufo-t4y tldr monsoon makes raiden from doing good through "good" and do good through bad and its badass as fuck
7:02
The introductory guitar riff is too much fun!
What I always loved about this mission was that you spent most of it learning that the soldiers you fought had their fears and doubts suppressed artificially so they could focus on fighting. They weren't psychotic killers underneath, they just had tech to make them fight like that.
So the moment the one guy stabs Jack in the gut and he just laughs? That hesitation as the soldier steps backwards? That's those fear inhibitors FAILING. They're not enough anymore.
That is the moment that man's brain re-learned what fear is and shidded his cyborg pants in absolute terror.
And then there is 2 confused cyborgs. upper and lower.
The line about fighting for pain, is a breathetaking masterpiece. No finer meaning could ever come close. I'm so proud . Lol
Can you exolain why he fights for pain ?
@@unknownfactor6489 i think he mean that he fight because of pain, Raiden persona is fighting for the weak people like him when he was young so they don't have suffering pain that he once experienced, but Jack the Ripper fight because he like to kill, enjoy hurting people, makes them feel pain
@@unknownfactor6489 Raiden is a sadomasochist.
@@ProudElizabethHusband HOLY SHIT. I never fucking realized that. I thought that it was just some cheesy edgy line they put in that made no sense. But now... GOD FUCKING DAMN!!!
@@ProudElizabethHusbandAnd also, turning off the pain inhibitors reminded him of the exquisite sensation of feeling a blade pierce his body
I love it when two psychopaths argue about philosophy and the loss of life only to have one brutally kill the other while speaking the meme language
I mean Raiden has some form of empathy considering he locked jack away
Yesssssssssss
they are sociopaths not psychopaths. A psychopath can't love or be traumatised.
@@Tokmurok exactly!
They are sociopaths. Same people that infest people like Twitter and Reddit.
honestly, the best part about this is Stains Of Time kicking in just before it starts as you get the zoom in of the sadistic grin on Monsoon. I lost it when i saw that shit
4:49 bit of a crack head theory but I think that "No!" is a final tinge of guilt he feels knowing what's going to happen to the soldier when he stabs him. He knows that's going to be what pushes him over the edge and he knows the soldier is going to die but he doesn't have the strength or the want to resist it so all he can do is mutter a protest in the vain hope that he'll change his mind and save himself.
I was basically thinking the same thing
It’s like it’s the last little bit of Raiden trying to fight back before Jack takes over
5:20 easily one of my favorite moments in the game.
Gotta love it seeing someone go all Riddick on his enemies, eh?
do you know soundtrack name from this scene please?
it sucks that people misinterpret his speech so much, it's been memed to death and you don't really see it as a crucial aspect in the story anymore
Yes! Im guessing many people don't take metal gear rising seriously because of how over-the-top it is.
I understand though, the game is pretty goofy.
But some(not all) people don't seem appreciate the game much, and just enjoy the memes. Kinda sucks
I was guilty of this. I laughed at this game for the memes. A month ago, I found the soundtracks, listened to them, and then bought the game and proceeded to play the best video game I've played in years.
@@Thomas_Everman How do you keep finding meee....
@@slickcalf985 Guess we just like the same stuff
@@Thomas_Everman real
0:23-0:39
Monsoon has some fantastic sound design there
I love the line delivery at 5:44, Monsoon sounds scared and oddly a little concerned
He expected Raiden to be just like what said said he was: weak, moral, blind to what the world really is. But Raiden (or rather, jack the ripper) is the complete opposite
4:20 Gotta love sam's face here lol, he went "so he finally gets it".
He looks more like upset honestly
Or, like a
"Huh..."
We went from memes to Jack the Ripper. Oh how I love Metal Gear.
Love how raidens voice changes, as he starts to accept the ripper part of himself.
Monsoon really thought he had Jack with his whole social darwinist speech and Jack basically went, "You know what? You're right. Killing's fun, so how about I kill you?"
what i love most about this scene is the random cat that shows up and the guard gives the cat pets
what minute?
Remember Buggy the Clown? this is him now, after giving up on being a pirate.
Heh
Feels old
Raiden getting close to monsoons face :"... SLOW BEEEEEAM"
I think it’s really interesting. Monsoon is a very apathetic character. Very closed off and cold to the world and an extremely Nihilistic character. But he seems the most augmented out of the winds. Obviously Mistral has her arms and Sam only has the one arm. Sundowner has those panels but monsoon is clearly the least human both physically and mentally. It’s the whole “if you replace every body part with a machine are you still human debate.”
Raiden is entirely machine aside from his brain, though
I know what you're going for but it doesn't seem like the intention in design, rather that it was meant to display how much he'd sold his life to Desperado and the PMC life; that there was no going back for him, no redemption of his character
he's a prisoner of his own ideologies as much as he is a prisoner of war, they all drove him down a cold, chaotic, relentless path
Can we just appreciate how smoothly Jack’s VA goes between the Raiden and Ripper voices and how he’s able to convey very different energy for the same character with what is ultimately a slight tweak?
Fun fact: you cannot skip Monsoon’s speech, not that you would want to
it's weird seeing "meme" used in its original meaning when now the word has been reduced to simply being synonymous with "joke" or "funny thing"
2:25 How about "full of shit"? Is that a meme?
No, Patrick, "full of shit" is not a meme.
"No it isn't you fucking amoeba."
Hahaha,bro jack went full provoc😂😂
Monsoon is so flamboyant, he wears heels like a true chad.
0:43 sam's little chuckle always gets me. it's so anime-like
Didn't you know the entire Metal Gear is anime?
@@mossfinder7516 Please don't compare this masterpiece to that weeb cringe
@@The_GK1 I am not comparing, I am -making the mother of all omelettes here- drawing the straight line between both
@@mossfinder7516 cant fret over every freg
@@The_GK1 Oh boy someone is on copium
For that grunt having his face being covered he showed so much emotion in his minimal screentime
Raiden speech and monologue was thrilling and I loved it
Hey look, someone remembers back when memes didn't refer to internet memes.
Internet memes are still memes though. Ideas that are powerful and influential because of their ability to spread so far and so quickly, even transcending generations and becoming immortal.
The Virgin: Tyrian Callows
Vs.
The Chad: Monsoon, of the Winds of Destruction
the meme man is coming back
Wonder from where the word meme comes from. From mimic? When a meme is induced on someone, he will replicate it. I think it would be pretty spot on.
The fact Sam knew that he just changed on the spot and ordered the guards to quickly finish him off speaks volumes to how much Jac The Ripper is a threat.
When I first saw Jack become Jack the Ripper my reaction was "Where were you in Metal Gear Solid 2?"
this is after mgs2 AND mgs4 (easily recognized by him saying "After the Patriots, (referring to how him and Solid Snake beat the Patriots in mgs4)i thought i could have a normal life.")
Buried deep inside of him
@@rbraunbeck96 if only he let it out in MGS2 I would have loved his character.
A little detail I find intensely powerful is how when monsoon orders his goon to attack Raiden, you can see Raiden mutter “No!”. He knows how destructive and psychopathic Jack is, and he genuinely doesn’t want him to be unleashed, practically begging them to not allow such a thing to happen. But when the pain of battle overwhelms him, Raiden disappears altogether, and the ripper is the only one left to wreak destruction and death on those around him. Powerful stuff.
It's pretty hard to tell, but I think it was Sam who said no, not Raiden. Sam wanted to fight Raiden since the start of the game, so it makes perfect sense
1:40 And thus, the most legendary concept embodiment was born.
If you think about it, before "Among Us" was released, the word "sus" was fairly unused compared to after.
Europe's meme ban final boss
theres a soilder petting a cat during the 1st person view to your right....
Now in this scene Raiden had become more like gray fox the original cyborg ninja... The way of speak, the way of enjoying the pain... How badass they look... Although i enjoy hearing gray fox's voice in the original metal gear solid the way that he speak like corpse... Both Raiden and gray fox was my favourite characters...
I have never played this game but I was definitely not expecting the bad guy to go on a rant about memes
Monsoon is pretty powerful he survived so much when raiden was in ripper mode
Raiden journey
Mgs 2 : "i was trying to be someone i wasn't by loving what wasn't real"
Mgs 4 : " i am lightning, the rain transformed"
MGR : " i think its time for jack to let it rip.!"
Dude just went from running fools errand into a man who fight for what he believes in (kinda ironic since thats that armstrong wanted)
"I think It's time for jack... to let er rip!" has to be one of the exciting quotes especially when cool ass music is there after it
I get an adrenaline rush every time I hear it, it’s so fucking cool.
1:04 That's a reference to the quote "Who watches the Watchmen?", also explored in Alan Moore'e Watchmen. "Who saves the weak from the man who saves the weak?" paraphrases that idea. That meme, as it were, that asks, "who holds the enforcer accountable to his own ideals?"
1:51- 2:15 wise words from a video game
There are plenty of games with great life philosophies. Deus ex franchise can be one of them
@@OMM94 that's what's dope about this media, it let's them show concepts like that in a way that's palatable
Ehh edgy fake crap
Religion is a joke is my favourite
Memesoon of The Memes of Destruction
I like how monsoon and Sam are almost opposites
Monsoon has a lot of enhancements and talk a lot ( like a lot a lot)
Sam has minimal enhancements and doesn’t talk all too much
I really wish we got more Monsoon. He’s such a badass character.
"Now there's a pretty meme. Exquisite!"
Now this line is a meme. Exquisite!
I learned young that killing your enemies felt bad. Really bad. *starts crying*
A *memes* of justice
Hah... haha.. ha
Uuuuuuuuuuh
7:04 god damn that guitar shredding as Monsoon smiles at the start of the fight gives me goosebumps every time
5:38 Underrated line.
This sequence is basically a tutorial on what to do when some tool on the internet gets all "debate me" in your mentions.
Monsoon: We're the same you and I!
Raiden: *goes bonkers*
Monsoon: No wait not like that
Fav cutscene in the game
5:20 do you know this soundtrack name please?
Legit though, I have no idea how this guy ended up in my dreams last night. I dreamed he worked as a basic employee at some reception hall, and was moving around chairs in the main hall, setting up for an event.
Now that's a pretty meme. Exquisite!
the alternative metal gear rising ending where everyone in desperado became better people
A quote i remember if someone can tell me where its from it'd be appreciated.
"I beseech thee villian. attack them, Taunt them, ridicule them, KILL them. But never, NEVER take everything away from the hero. For when you've taken everything, their friends their family their ideals, then they will become something worse than you villain. Worse than you can imagine. They will become a monster. And no one. Not you, the forces of good, the demons and magic creatures of the land, not even the gods themselves! will be able to stop them."
This quote rings in my head everytime I see this exact scene and I i cant tell if it makes it more epic or more scary.
Grass grows,sun shines and brother I hurt people
Wind blows,rain falls and the strong prey upon the weak
It's all coming together
Sam and Monsoon really did the most epic callout collab in history.
5:14 when you stub your toe
0:52 Monsoon says:"fisting"
I also hear this))))
I don't know why the way monsoon's hips just jiggle wiggle at 0:33 is so funny to me
😳hips don't lie
Dude Imagine Raiden coming home to Rose after this shit "Hey honey, I finally embraced my psychopathic serial-killer nature, how's our little boy?"
Love that smile monsoon made at the end
*"That nickname you love so much...wanna know how I got it?"*
*"Actually, why don't I give you a demonstration."*
*"I think it's time for Jack..."*
*"TO LET HER RIP!"*
Raiden, the edgelord...
*cringey guitar riff starts*
Monsoon says “you lost your mind” like jack went crazy in front of him. Jack has been crazy before he hit puberty, hes just really good and keeping The Ripper in check.
I watched the incorrect summary of this game, and when it said that this speech was an actual game lines, i had to come here to check. I am baffled it is
Love a miniseries about the Winds of Destructions origins and the missions they went on before meeting their end in this game
Jack in this game is the jack he was hiding from everyone in mgs2 and mgs4. The little boy who loved to kill, now a grown up.......
When monsoon says "Kill him!" i never noticed jack whispering "no"
I thought that was just the minion since Sam made Raiden hear their inner thoughts
2:05 we kind of are controlled by memes lol
Ironic how his name is monsoon and the fight takes place during a storm
Jack had accepted his personality disorder.