Please make more of these kinds... its really interesting... How historians arrive at a narration... well done... this video is one of its kind... And very few such videos are made !
@@xipingpong5165 burning of a single University or library can't make all the knowledge lost. There were many universities in India at that time besides nalanda lol. Do you think all the information was only kept at nalanda?
Because most Indic(hindu/Buddhist) kingdoms didn't consider it important to write down their history 🥲😓. I guess that's the truth. The fact that we can find endless amount of literature, but can't find any form of recorded and detailed history of ANY KINGDOM from the hindu borders of Kabul , to Nepal, to southeast Asia shows this mentality. Because if it were destroyed due to climate/invaders there would've been exceptions(where climate was suitable/invaders couldn't reach), but we still don't find recorded history.
I personally suspect that this is because hindus had an oral tradition (oral traditions tend to trim details and add fiction) and if the Buddhists had a more established writing tradition, they got wiped out
either they were not written like Roman history, or they were written down but lost due to invasion and Brahmins only kept it with themselves but didn't feel it important to pass on. The only Indian sources are Puranas and inscriptions. Indian history was written like religious scriptures and not like a subject. Therefore, it is difficult to have a proper detailed accounts.
Great video as always. Will you countinue ancient Indian warfare series? Please make a video about armour and clothes worn by soldiers in warfare and weapons in ancient warfare like what kinda arrows, spears, shields, swords etc.
Society today comes from hundreds and thousands of event of past. The more we learn about how these things happened, the better we understand real life. Great video🫡
Hi Jay, great content as always. Can you suggest some books that shed light on the topics like that of demographics, economics, wages, bureaucratic setup and logistics of ancient Indian kingdoms in detail?
Thank you. About the books, I am not sure if there's a book that covers all of these topics. Administration and economy has been covered in different books but topics like demographics and logistics are not. You can look into the collective volume of The History and Culture of the Indian people.
@@JayVardhanSingh Thanks, I will try those books in near future. One more thing, do you have any idea OR a logical explanation for how the Mauryan empire would have collapsed, I mean is there any extensive research done on any pre-Islamic empires of India and specially their falls, like that of the Roman and Chinese? I
Sir Also tell about Empire of Harsha! After collapse of Alchon Huns Empire. (White Huns) Toramana & Mihirakula 528ce | New dynasty rise . Legend Pushyabhuti lived in the Srikantha janapada (modern Kurukshetra district), whose capital was Sthanvishvara (modern Thanesar). Tell about Origin of Pushyabhuti dynasty or (Vardhana dynasty) 500-647CE & their zenith, circa 600-650 CE, forming the "Empire of Harsha", and neighbouring polities. Pushyabhuti (?~500) & Nāravardhana (500-525) have any relation with or descendants of Yaudheya gana republic Or Alcon Huns ?
What was the morality of kings and leaders towards people and their sense of service towards their subjects? Does it differs from the times IVC to ganga plan? Or was it a continuem?
The Yavana attack on Patliputra is also mentioned by inscriptions commissioned by Kharvela. So were Kharvela and Pushyamitra contemporaries? Did Kharvela reach Patliputra? Was there any confrontations between Kharvela and Pushyamitra?
It talks about Yavanas but doesn't mention that Yavanas were attacking Pataliputra. I believe that these Yavanas that are mentioned in Hathigumpha inscirptions were the Yavanas who were attacking Pataliputra. This would make Kharavela and Pushyamitra contemporaries. But this would also mean that the Magadhan king who was defeated by Kharavela was Pushyamitra.
Maalavikaagnimitram is a kriti of Kalidasa. A writer/ poet is not a historian. They take a character from the past and add their own imagination and write a story. Kalidasa wrote Maalavikaagnimitram so many years later after the time of Pushyamitra or Malavikagni mitra.And it's a love story. Shakespeare wrote Julius Caesar and Antony &Cleopatra,in which, some facts are not historically true. It's applicable in the case of Kalidasa's poems as well. So we must not take literary text as proof for historical accuracy. Valmiki's Ramayanam also can be perceived in this way. A king Raghu would have been there but Rama might be an imagination or Rama would have been there but abduction of Sita might have been imagination May be everything written in Ramayana might be true but Utthara Ramayana might be an imagination. We are not sure,for sure
In puranas we have told that simuk killed last kanv ruler susharman and extablished shung dynsty In hathigumfa scription kharwel claims that he defeated "brahspatimitr" and Looted too much money from this attack And this time shatkarni 1 was ruling ???¿??????
Sungas were odumbara, the descendants of.Viswamita. wrong translation of dhandev inscription. Pushyamitra was kosikey,. dhandev was sixth governor,pl see and reconstruct.accordigly.
Was Hindu God Ram based on Pushyamitra Sunga? because Pushyamitra Sunga killed lot of Buddhist just exactly like how Ram killed lot of Rakshashas(Natives of Dandakaranya)? or Was he some earlier king(Earlier than Mauryans) because the span of Valmiki's Ramayana is 700BC to 300AD, He could be earlier than Mauryans. What is your opinion? I know there is not a single Historical proof for Ramayana(Herodotus proof), but want to know your opinion.
I don't think pushyamitra can be the inspiration for Rama because pushyamitra was kinda left behind for most of history, and especially not remembered as a "good ruler" by either hindus or Buddhist(unlike Ashoka for ex), whereas Rama for hindus was the just not the ideal king, but the ideal man. If Rama were to be inspired by a real life king, that king would be wayyy more popular.(or would be inspired from a king of the same name lol)
Wow show me the proofs where ram is debunked he is real for you maybe Jesus was real but ram isn't even though there is historical star locations and times noted down of his birth and ramsetu exists along with the path he took ayodhya exists Sri Lanka exists and Sri Lankans themselves say there was ravan but no for you Jesus is true and you will base your calender on his birth but you don't know his birthday only birth year
Great videos , a refreshing take on history
Please make more of these kinds... its really interesting... How historians arrive at a narration... well done... this video is one of its kind... And very few such videos are made !
Your vdos are so much knowledgeable
Why isn't ancient Indian history recorded in detail like Roman history? It always baffles me.
@@xipingpong5165 burning of a single University or library can't make all the knowledge lost. There were many universities in India at that time besides nalanda lol. Do you think all the information was only kept at nalanda?
The climate of India
Because most Indic(hindu/Buddhist) kingdoms didn't consider it important to write down their history 🥲😓. I guess that's the truth. The fact that we can find endless amount of literature, but can't find any form of recorded and detailed history of ANY KINGDOM from the hindu borders of Kabul , to Nepal, to southeast Asia shows this mentality.
Because if it were destroyed due to climate/invaders there would've been exceptions(where climate was suitable/invaders couldn't reach), but we still don't find recorded history.
I personally suspect that this is because hindus had an oral tradition (oral traditions tend to trim details and add fiction) and if the Buddhists had a more established writing tradition, they got wiped out
either they were not written like Roman history, or they were written down but lost due to invasion and Brahmins only kept it with themselves but didn't feel it important to pass on. The only Indian sources are Puranas and inscriptions. Indian history was written like religious scriptures and not like a subject. Therefore, it is difficult to have a proper detailed accounts.
Great video as always. Will you countinue ancient Indian warfare series? Please make a video about armour and clothes worn by soldiers in warfare and weapons in ancient warfare like what kinda arrows, spears, shields, swords etc.
Yeah
Yes, will soon do a video or two on this topic.
Society today comes from hundreds and thousands of event of past. The more we learn about how these things happened, the better we understand real life. Great video🫡
Hi Jay, great content as always. Can you suggest some books that shed light on the topics like that of demographics, economics, wages, bureaucratic setup and logistics of ancient Indian kingdoms in detail?
Thank you.
About the books, I am not sure if there's a book that covers all of these topics. Administration and economy has been covered in different books but topics like demographics and logistics are not. You can look into the collective volume of The History and Culture of the Indian people.
@@JayVardhanSingh Thanks, I will try those books in near future. One more thing, do you have any idea OR a logical explanation for how the Mauryan empire would have collapsed, I mean is there any extensive research done on any pre-Islamic empires of India and specially their falls, like that of the Roman and Chinese? I
Sir Also tell about Empire of Harsha!
After collapse of Alchon Huns Empire. (White Huns) Toramana & Mihirakula 528ce | New dynasty rise . Legend Pushyabhuti lived in the Srikantha janapada (modern Kurukshetra district), whose capital was Sthanvishvara (modern Thanesar).
Tell about Origin of Pushyabhuti dynasty or (Vardhana dynasty) 500-647CE & their zenith, circa 600-650 CE, forming the "Empire of Harsha", and neighbouring polities.
Pushyabhuti (?~500) & Nāravardhana (500-525) have any relation with or descendants of Yaudheya gana republic Or Alcon Huns ?
What was the morality of kings and leaders towards people and their sense of service towards their subjects?
Does it differs from the times IVC to ganga plan? Or was it a continuem?
Very knowledgeable Video
Beautiful video!!
Please make a video on Kalidas chronology
Both perspective whether he was in Gupta era or in Shunga era
Also his books other than which are famous
Will try
what dose modern acheologist says about the limit of shunga influence.
Love your content... 👍
What is that sacrifice? You mentioned it in another video.. But I don’t think you explained it... Ashwamedh? Something to do with horse?
Full fledged Hindu kingdom starts from pushya Mitra
Some historians are spreading hatred in the name of Shungas.
The Yavana attack on Patliputra is also mentioned by inscriptions commissioned by Kharvela. So were Kharvela and Pushyamitra contemporaries? Did Kharvela reach Patliputra? Was there any confrontations between Kharvela and Pushyamitra?
It talks about Yavanas but doesn't mention that Yavanas were attacking Pataliputra.
I believe that these Yavanas that are mentioned in Hathigumpha inscirptions were the Yavanas who were attacking Pataliputra.
This would make Kharavela and Pushyamitra contemporaries. But this would also mean that the Magadhan king who was defeated by Kharavela was Pushyamitra.
@@JayVardhanSingh Thank you, so that confusion on the time period of Kharvela and Pushyamitra still remains then
That is an interesting assumption to make
Also did Kharavela compile the Jain angas according to hathigumpha inscription
The Hathigumpha inscirption doesn't mention any such details.
Maalavikaagnimitram is a kriti of Kalidasa. A writer/ poet is not a historian. They take a character from the past and add their own imagination and write a story. Kalidasa wrote Maalavikaagnimitram so many years later after the time of Pushyamitra or Malavikagni mitra.And it's a love story.
Shakespeare wrote Julius Caesar and Antony &Cleopatra,in which, some facts are not historically true. It's applicable in the case of Kalidasa's poems as well. So we must not take literary text as proof for historical accuracy.
Valmiki's Ramayanam also can be perceived in this way. A king Raghu would have been there but Rama might be an imagination or Rama would have been there but abduction of Sita might have been imagination
May be everything written in Ramayana might be true but Utthara Ramayana might be an imagination. We are not sure,for sure
Greeks invaded when brahaspatimitr was ruling magadh
In puranas we have told that simuk killed last kanv ruler susharman and extablished shung dynsty
In hathigumfa scription kharwel claims that he defeated "brahspatimitr" and Looted too much money from this attack
And this time shatkarni 1 was ruling
???¿??????
Hindi me banao or sila lekh sanskrit sila lekh kaha hai
Nice
Sungas were odumbara, the descendants of.Viswamita. wrong translation of dhandev inscription. Pushyamitra was kosikey,. dhandev was sixth governor,pl see and reconstruct.accordigly.
Pushyamitra was part of mourya dynasty. King Pushyamitra never existed
Hindi me bola kar bhai
Puranas are wrong
Was Hindu God Ram based on Pushyamitra Sunga? because Pushyamitra Sunga killed lot of Buddhist just exactly like how Ram killed lot of Rakshashas(Natives of Dandakaranya)? or Was he some earlier king(Earlier than Mauryans) because the span of Valmiki's Ramayana is 700BC to 300AD, He could be earlier than Mauryans. What is your opinion?
I know there is not a single Historical proof for Ramayana(Herodotus proof), but want to know your opinion.
I don't think pushyamitra can be the inspiration for Rama because pushyamitra was kinda left behind for most of history, and especially not remembered as a "good ruler" by either hindus or Buddhist(unlike Ashoka for ex), whereas Rama for hindus was the just not the ideal king, but the ideal man.
If Rama were to be inspired by a real life king, that king would be wayyy more popular.(or would be inspired from a king of the same name lol)
@@randomturd1415 I like how the persecution in not mentioned by Greek Scholars of that time
Wow show me the proofs where ram is debunked he is real for you maybe Jesus was real but ram isn't even though there is historical star locations and times noted down of his birth and ramsetu exists along with the path he took ayodhya exists Sri Lanka exists and Sri Lankans themselves say there was ravan but no for you Jesus is true and you will base your calender on his birth but you don't know his birthday only birth year
@@rameshraju4784 NO lord RAM ever existed. Get over it.
@@ganeshcsaiisc proof