This is the most pointless video I've ever seen. You filmed the Napoli central station, which was refurbished a few years ago and is in great condition. Then you filmed the circumvesuviana platforms in the same station, which is an absolutely standard train platform as you find them everywhere in the world... I've seen worse in important European capital cities, without doing names not to be offensive. Then you complained about the age and the speed of the train, assuming that it's not safe just because it's old and fast. If it still runs and goes that fast it means it can, if it couldn't there would be accidents all the time, which is not the case. Then you complained about the big amount of stops... and maybe you don't know that that is not a touristic line, but an essential line that connects the extremely densely populated Vesuvian area to Naples. Then you complained about the graffiti, and I agree with you on this, I don't like them, but again you are ignoring that keeping the walls of an overpopulated suburban area clean is not easy and is not even priority in an economically depressed metropolis like Naples. And you were talking and talking about pickpockets without having been pickpocketed yourself, so why were you caring so much? Man, if you are so anxious you're not made for travelling, just stay home or choose easier destinations. Napoli is not perfect and is surely not for Mr and Mrs Perfect. Hope you at least managed to enjoy a little bit of the immense beauty you had the chance to visit and you weren't focused only on our imperfections all the time.
To respond to your comments: This isn't a pointless video. I'm pointing out why myself and others were uncomfortable on this train. I agree the Napoli Central Station looks nice but the Circumvesuviana platform does not and yes, there's worse in some cities and better in others. Regarding the age of the train, I understand that newer trains are being phased in, which is a good thing. I complained about the large number of stops-of course I did-there's 35 stops in 70 minutes! As I pointed out in the video, this is a train for locals-good for them, bad for tourists. Regarding the graffiti, I've been to several Asian cities with zero graffiti. Graffiti gives a bad impression to visitors-you should be asking your local authorities to clean it up and have them patrol the stations to prevent those with a lack of respect of property from doing damage. Naples has a reputation for having pickpockets, especially in the train station. I didn't create this reputation-the pickpockets did, so don't kill the messenger. Why do I care? Because as soon as I arrived in Sorrento, I was told that a couple was just pickpocketed in the Naples train station and had their passport and credit cards stolen. That could have been me. Maybe you should ask them why we should care so much. You suggest I'm not made for traveling and I should just stay home. You do realize that I've been to over 50 countries on all 7 continents, including many "third world" countries. I just spent almost a month in India in November, so I don't think I'm going to just go to easy destinations. The fact that I'm well traveled and complained about this particular experience should tell you something. Regarding the immense beauty, if you're referring to Italy as a whole, yes, I did. Italy is my favorite European country. I did not get a chance to visit Naples due to time constraints-my criticism is not of Naples, it's of one train station and one train ride.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures You are free to express your opinions, and I'm free to find them pointless. I agree with you that stations look nicer without graffiti. Graffiti are a major issue in the whole city and I dislike it too, but this is how it is, our authorities consider it the last of their priorities compared to the city's major issues, so I don't recommend you to come back to see more if you find that so untolerable. But I have taken the circumvesuviana many times and it is just a damn train, there are better ones but it does the job properly and maybe you didn't realize how cheap the ride was for you to go to such a distant and expensive destination like Sorrento. You paid the price commuters pay and had a taste of our commuters' life, if you didn't like it be glad that you are not forced to do it everyday as they are. I have lived 3 years in London and although the trains tend to be newer I had the most dreadful train experiences of my life there, much worse than any experience I have ever had with any train in Naples. This is not to offend any other city but just to say that if you title your video "THE TRAIN RIDE FROM HELL" when nothing bad actually happened to you and you just made everything up with your imagination, you are providing people with a distorted image of my city and I really can't imagine you travelling across the 7 continents with this kind of attitude. True travellers enjoy discovering the true spirit of the places they explore, they don't expect them to be artificially made up for tourists.
I haven't traveled across 7 continents with that attitude, except when I have a rare negative experience. By the way, others who were with me felt the same way as I did and if you Google this train route, you will find others feel the same way as we did. You can criticize me all you want but as long as you have trains and train stations full of graffiti, trains that are quite old making 35 stops in 70 minutes which is unheard of, pickpockets in the Naples train station, and ticket collectors who have the reputation for ripping off people, my video is the least of your worries. If Naples doesn't address the problems, then tourists will continue to have a negative opinion of Naples, deserved or not.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures For me someone who visits a lovely place like Sorrento and rather than making a nice video about its beauty makes a video about a train ride where he just got a bad impression but nothing actually happened to him, is not someone I call a traveller. Worrying about these things is not a luxury that a city like ours can afford, get informed about our unemployment rates and "mafia" problems and you will understand why the massively overpopulated suburban area you crossed by train looks dodgy. Again, that train is not meant for posh tourists, it's meant as public transportation for about 1 million residents of one of the most economically depressed areas of Europe. Wealth is not everywhere and we are not the Principality of Monaco.
We spent 6 weeks in Sorrento in the summer of 2019. We used the CIrcumvesuviana for all our travel in between Naples and Sorrento several times. At no time did we feel uncomfortable, threatened or frightened. It was a great experience buying a 30 day ticket and hopping on and off the train in every little town that looked interesting. We kept our money and passports under our clothes. Can't recommend this form of transportation more. Perhaps rush hour isn't the best time, but don't be frightened off by one person's experience.
This is one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. Its almost tempting to think that this was someone parodying a neurotic american, rather than someone's genuine reaction to an entirely normal train station, local train and efficient train network allowing for faster speeds. I'm American but I'd sure as **** feel safer and less confused on this train than I did using the local trains and subway in NYC!
I worked in NYC in the early 80's and took commuter trains in Manhattan and the Bronx. I'm sure things are much better in NYC now than they were then. I don't recall any of them having close to 35 stops and New York City is a lot bigger than Naples or Sorrento. I guess the difference is some people accept these as "normal" but I don't. Many train stations and trains can be improved but if people want to defend their less than stellar commuter lines, so be it.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures the A line has 66 stops total, apparently. Having googled directions just now, taking the A line right now from 207th St to Rockaway would be 37 stops over 26 miles. Naples to Sorrento now is 32 stops over 28 miles. I think the parallel is pretty apt.
I was thinking the same thing. Normal station, normal train filled with normal looking people. Not sure what the problem is... As far as the 32 station thing, which seems to bother the author so much -- it's called "local train".
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures I used NYC subway in 2014, it was an awful experience, especially at night, it was like the scary Bronx of the 80s was around everywhere. And my heart broke at the sight of the too many homeless people hiding in the network station. Thousands of years backwards compared to Europe.
:) You know, when you travel you need to know the places you visit rather than expect the same things you are used to at home. If that is the case - stay home. This is a local train for residences who happen to work along those lines. I think you should take a private car and I hope they charge you double - your attitude sucks dude. I love the local train - it is exactly like the one that runs between Budapest and Szentendre - many stops along the way for the commuters. Yes, full of graffiti and not terribly comfortable - but it is cheap transportation for those who need to get to work. There are pickpockets everywhere. You never take jewelry on a trip - unless you take the Orient Express. Never carry more money than you need for admission to a museum - credit card protected will get you fed & housed. Back in the 80's actually spent half the night in Naples train station. Our train from Rome got in but the commuter to Sorrento didn't start running until dawn. Love traveling - never expect the host country to cater to me - I'm there to see how it is done locally.
My attitude may suck but a lot of people agree with me based on what I've read after the fact. As I said in the video, I thought this was a local train. I had no expectations at all of what the experience was like. The biggest reason I didn't feel safe was that the train is very old and was going quite fast. I'm personally not worried about pickpockets because I always wear a money belt. By the way, having traveled to over 50 countries and taken many train rides all over the world, if I say I wasn't comfortable, I mean I wasn't comfortable. We did take a private car on the return trip and it was awesome!
This video made by a paranoid American tourist, expecting to get pick pocketed just because someone told him he might. Perhaps he should look at the United States transport system before judging others, having a government who would rather drain the worlds recourses than spend money on their own transport system. Apparently its a problem the train was built in 1975? the L in Chicago was built in 1892?. 35 stops on this trip is also a talking point but isn't this public transport? meaning to serve the public?. Perhaps it should go non stop just for you letting everyone else walk? Being an Italian I find this video insulting, comparing this trip to a second rate Hollywood movie shows your lack of depth. Looking at your profile you have travelled extensively around the globe and I'm sure you have a gained a lot of experience, which is why I find it perplexing that you find such a small train journey made by millions of people each year such an irritation. Keep up the good work!
"Paranoid...expecting to get pick pocketed." You do know that the Naples train station has had a long standing reputation for pickpockets. You did see in the video when I mentioned that when we arrived in Sorrento, the hotel owner told us that two of their guests were just pick pocketed in the Naples train station and had their credit cards and passports stolen. That's not paranoia-that's reality. Yes, going 100 miles per hour on a 40 year old train is a problem. Yes, for tourists, having 35 stops during a 70 minute ride is a major inconvenience but for locals it's perfect since they need to get off wherever they live-that's understandable. Seeing graffiti at every station didn't exactly give me a great impression of that area. I do have a lot of travel experience and have ridden many trains around the world, including New York City, where some of them are not dissimilar to the Naples-Sorrento line. While I do understand why you may find this video insulting, perhaps instead of criticizing me, you should be criticizing the pick pockets and graffiti artists who give us tourists a bad impression of that area and who have created and perpetuated the negative stereotypes.
@Andy's Awesome Adventures You certainly weren’t going 100 Mph this is a narrow gauge train which isn’t capable of doing that. Nothing actually happened to you so how you can claim there are are pick pockets all the time just because someone said there were is ridiculous. People get shot in the US all the time, well that’s what I’d think if I listened to the media but i don’t claim to have experienced it. Every city in the world has graffiti and as appalling as it is it’s an unfortunate fact of life because kids have nothing better to do. What do you expect from a small suburban railway? Your video gives no message apart from picking on the points that every commuter line in the world has.
In the video, I actually said it felt like the train was going 100 mph, not that we were going 100 mph. Never claimed pick pockets are there all the time but they are certainly there. Nothing happened to us because we took precautions-not everyone does. Not every city in the world has graffiti-been to several Asian cities with zero graffiti. If you watch the other 40 videos I made in Italy that are either currently on my channel or soon to be, you will find that I love Italy-it's one of my favorite countries in the world of the 50+ countries I've been to. We had a great experience over the two weeks we were there but this train ride was not one of them. That's all I'm saying.
Andy's Awesome Adventures Have you ever heard of concept of "Maintenace"? I bet you had had not any fear if riding a Nostalgia Steam Train that is far better more dangerous. Obsolete trains are retired from service at scheduled times. I know it, because I've seen where these retired trains are stationing before being recycled. If this train is still in service and has not been retired, it means it is perfectly safe.
I'm a Brit and I've been through those train stations and never had any issues. I've been in train stations all over Europe and America and some are nice and some aren't. Some tourists just think the rest of the world should roll out the red carpet whenever they arrive.
You remind me of those fools that say a city or a neighborhood isn’t dangerous because they have never seen or experienced any crime there. Yet, if you read the newspaper or watch the news, you know it’s dangerous there. Same goes with this train. Even Rick Steves says it’s bad news! I suspect that if you rode it long enough, you too will become a victim of a pickpocket. The only cure for stupid and gullible is experience.
I rode this train a lot in my recent visit to Naples..it was perfectly fine. 35 stops that’s ridiculous, you probably rode the wrong train route u do have to pay attention. The ride to Sorrento was about 3 Euros. Rather pay that than the 30 euros the so call travel guides that r offered everywhere (which I paid once before learning about this train. Yes it’s busy, yes u have to be careful with your belongings but that’s just common sense anywhere you travel. If u want to guarantee a seat enter the the train in Porto Nolano which is about a 8 minute walk from where you buy ur ticket. It’s where all trains deport from. This train stops at Pompei,Herculium, Caserta palace Sorrento and it’s sooooo cheap..Save you’re Euros for the fabulous pizza,gelatos,coffee ,patties and Italian beer..we stayed right by the train station so it was awesome took the trains and metro everywhere. Love Naples Italy. This was my third trip in the last 10 months and every time I find something new. Discovered old Naples this last visit. It’s a must soo much better then Via Toledo street. Lots of street side food little places to drink 🍋 chello sprits. And it’s waking distance from train station.
I have taken the public transport system in the US (which I guess is where you are from) and to be honest the NYC subway is much worse than this. No departure screens, grafittis everywhere and rats. MILLIONS OF THEM ! this is a suburban commuter line where robbers don't go. they prefer to rob in touristy areas where people think spending 125 euros for a taxi is ok.
I worked in New York City back in the early 1980's and what you said was true back then but today, there's actually a lot less graffiti and a lot of the graffiti that is there is actually done by people from outside the U.S. I never saw rats back then but I don't doubt that it's a problem. Also, I'm sure certain parts of New York City are worse than others.
An American complaining about a train ride in Italy...meanwhile he doesn't realise the public transportation situation in his own country is alot more dire, with dirties train trains and more violent crimes being committed.
I'm very well aware of the public transportation situation in the U.S. I took the New York subway to the Bronx years ago and took the subway in Manhattan every day back then. The U.S. is well behind Europe in long distance trains. I thought the Trenitalia high speed train I took on this same trip was outstanding. We're probably behind in commuter trains as well, but this video wasn't about the U.S. train system, it was about one train ride I took from Naples to Sorrento.
There was a bus that left outside the airport at Naples and went straight to Sorrento train station. We took that down to Sorrento and was a lovely ride. We used the trains to get around while staying in Sorrento and didn't have a bad experience. There were some men with accordian's getting on late afternoon when people seemed to be going home from work. We would hear the music as they worked their way up the carriages and every so often they would stick their hands in someone's face for money but almost all the Italians ignored them. Two sat opposite us one day obviously going home themselves and my 6 year daughter made eye contact and got a couple of Euro's out of her purse and they played for her. That was lovely. On the way back to the airport, we did take the train to Naples station and then a taxi outside after we agreed the price. That itself was an experience! It reminded me of Mario Cart! Dented cars squeezing in between each other and horns blasting. I loved it and would do it again but I would understand how others might prefer not to! The only bad experience we had in Italy was in Ercolano. The ruins were fantastic but when you're hot and tired and just want a cold drink, I can't stress enough how you should still check out reviews on trip advisor before you enter a restaurant. The smiling pretty girls outside, waving menus and welcoming you in to one particular pizza restaurant hide its awful reviews for scamming people. If staying in Sorrento though and you just want good, home cooked food, visit the Master Hosts restaurant. Food is lovely, service is great and prices are fantastic. Full of locals which is what we always look for.
Nothing unsafe about it ,I was on the train today amazing scenery and friendly people .Yes a bit of graffiti on the train but so what. It’s perfectly safe and cheap ,and I am not from this part of the world but realise that graffiti and a crowded train doesn’t make it unsafe.Like Glasgow where I’m from people make the place .It is a great train journey.And Neapolitans are the the friendliest people in Italy,.
There is also a train that runs four or five times a day that only stops four times on the way to sorrento . We took it in September not very crowded, can’t remember the name something express. I heard horror stories about pick pockets in station too , but use your head wallet in front pocket, or a money belt . The station was very modern clean .
First time out of your car bro? Try riding our public transport system (USA). I didn't see any crazy, drugged up, violent homeless people or gangs of youth randomly attacking people in your video. Their system looks like paradise compared to what we put up with.
I've taken trains all over the world, including in the Bronx, New York. Yes, there are public transport systems worse than this, but that's not what this video is about.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventuresYou mentioned in your older comments never seeing rats, and little graffiti in NYC stations...lolololol...who you trying to kid? And have you seen the cities of Cacafornia? LA, Oakland, especially...the graffiti LITERALLY is EVERYWHERE on EVERYTHING, it's mind boggling...tents, homeless, tons and tons of garbage, addicts, crime galore, dilapidated crumbling buildings. Even around Beverly Hills, graffiti, homeless, trash. Naples has some bad areas but that and parts of Palermo are the worst of Italy, USA has literally HUNDREDS of Naples' only 10X WORSE. Then visit Barcelona, Marseilles, Athens, Berlin, Eastern Europe, Belgium, etc and Asia may not have the graffiti nearly as bad, but it has every other problem I listed above. You seriously want to compare this train with those in India, Philippines, Africa, Middle East, South America?? I've seen so many Americans over the years criticizing Naples, posting disparaging videos. But those days of embarrassing Naples and Italy are over. Look at YOUR country, Naples is paradise in comparison.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventuresP.S. The vast majority of those pickpockets are Roma people and immigrants. A problem in all the western countries especially Europe.
It is a suburban railway but with lovely views. We used it as tourists and it is crowded but it was enjoyable. I didn't feel unsafe but then maybe as a Londoner I'm more used to such transport. I'd love to be able to go back and use it again.
If you want to experience a $20 cup of coffee, go to Venice. If you want to experience Renaissance paintings of naked people, go to Florence. If you want to experience people who wish they were German and not Italian, go to Milan. If you want to experience Italy, go to Naples.
I took that ride in 1973 when the train was new and clean and cheap. I took the same ride with the wife in 2017. I swear it was the same train! It was crowded with young beachgoers who were almost shocked to see tourists. We took the hydrofoil back to Naples.
R. R. First ones were from 1978/79. Last trains of this series were purchased in 1984 or 86 I think. New ones (those with flat front cabs) are from 2010/11 or so. Very recent 23 trains are starting being delivered by factory from December 2018, and you can spot them as they have full-marine blue color.
Funny, traveled this exact same route about a month ago, no pick pockets even though train was crowded. Safe, easy run, very, very inexpensive versus a private car. If he is that afraid, I wonder how afraid he would be with the graffiti covered streets of almost every major Italian city! This train may max out at 50 or 60 kph, nowhere near 100. Yep, you want a private car, it is about 25 to 30 times more expensive. Traveling the Circumvesuviana is no different than any other major metro train system in the western world.
Its a local train its perfectly normal for them to have more stops. I've never been to America but I'm sure they have trains that have plenty of stops for small journeys. Its meant to mostly serve the locals who need to travel to and from work. If you want a faster way you should have done more research and found an alternative route
Just been on the Sorrento to Pompei train, so shocked at the train station at Pompei. One of the worlds most popular tourist attractions, yet they can’t clean up graffiti and paint the buildings, get rid of weeds, the trains were covered in graffiti. Then there were the rip off merchants and the ticket seller who gave us the wrong tickets to get to Herculaneum, wasting 2 hours. It was like I was in some Middle Eastern country or transported back to 1930🤦♀️
I’m a Londoner so used to train/tube travel. I’ve used this the Circumversuviana train many times the last being 2 weeks ago on several trips each time from Sorrento to Naples, to Pompeii, Castelammare de Stabia, Torre Annunziata. At no time did I feel unsafe in fact quite the opposite. I’ve also used the metro in Naples several times, no problems.
The train and the ride is perfectly safe - we just took it today. It might feel a bit different for some people as it did for us as well, but never did we feel unsafe or threatened. A lot of tourists on the trip as well :)
This is hilarious. Try riding the trains in Los Angeles, with violent crazy homeless people and with sick and shit everywhere. Naples to me was not like London or Paris but it was pretty great.
We took this train in 2016 from Naples to Meta. We had a group of musicians playing lively loud music on the train they would be happy to take some donations I think. Some of the windows of the train were covered in graffiti partially blocking the view. We didn't have any problem and the folks on the train were perfectly fine. I had watched videos on the internet describing Sorrento as not a destination but a jumping off point to other places. I though the entire Campania region was beautiful and awesome, I would love to go back anytime.
This kind of videos made me so scared before taking the train to Sorrento, and it was FINE! And I was a female solo traveler. Yes, you have to careful and be aware of your surroundings, but it is safe. If you don’t want to make a line to buy tickets once you get in Naples, you can buy tickets online from Campania Express in advance and they even have someone to guide you, it costs $15 each way
We met thieves and we rode this train just once in a lifetime... They were operating in groups 😡 trying to steal everything. Looking into people's pockets, purses, bags and kneeling over. We did not got anything stolen but it was stressfull and shitty situation. They were not hiding it at all...
I took the circumvesuviana last year on September to go from Napoli to sorrento. The truth is not the very nice train, later to return from sorrento to napoli we took another one that makes the same route faster, has fewer stops, arrives quickly and only costs a little more
It looked like a fine train ride to me. What's the problem? Italian trains are outstanding. From experience, you just have to watch out for Romas lurking at the kiosks. You will have to push the ticket agents to do extra work; get all the train details of your itinerary from the agents whenever you need to make a connection. (eg. Connecting in Salerno or Empoli)
Never, this was my first train ride, expect for the train rides I took in Peru, Italy, England, Wales, the New York subway, Alaska, Ireland, Japan, Vietnam and India!
We took this train both ways. It's some messed up kind of an adventure and I'd recommend taking the ferry from Naples to Sorrento, a lot cheaper than a private car and has the benefit of no traffic jams. Sure the train stops 35 times, but Italian driving, not sure I'd be paying a premium to enjoy that over this.
This happens to be a hellish railway in a paradisiac orography. This happens to be useful to tourists as well but it was conceived to be useful to a huge mass of local people that needs to move around the area. I was a local there, and I have to admit that I do not like graffiti or the possibility to be robbed, but having seen a lot of other suburban railways in the world I have to say that a crowded train full of locals is always safer than a half-empty train with dislocated passengers with no roots with the territory. I have a strange memory of this train. Many years ago, the doors opened and an insect big as a cat jumped into the carriage causing a lot of shock to all (a sort of grasshopper). Then a tough guy managed to kill the "beast" and another one said: - it might be the only living thing on board that paid for the ticket. 35 stops. Well, that is how the territory is. A lot of densely inhabited little towns that need to be linked together. Naples and Sorrento being the attractive headlines is just a chancy feature of the line. Circumvesuviana was not born as a touristic infrastructure.
Honestly, a completely misleading title. Naples train station is no more prone to pickpocketing than any other main station in Europe. You’d know this if you indeed did do the research on your adventures. I’m curious what adventures you’ve ever done if this transit seems unsafe to you. Most Trams in urban European centres travel at speeds similar to this in similar condition and as others mentioned, are very safe. Consider leaving the reviews up to professionals and keep your insular, American perspective to yourself.
Sorry you were so offended, snowflake. I said at the beginning this might be an exaggeration. You said, "Naples train station is no more prone to pickpocketing than any other main station in Europe. You’d know this if you indeed did do the research on your adventures." Tell that to the couple who were just pick pocketed there when I was there and had their passports and credit cards stolen. I did do my research and a lot of people said not to take that train but that was our only choice. You said, "I’m curious what adventures you’ve ever done if this transit seems unsafe to you. Most Trams in urban European centres travel at speeds similar to this in similar condition and as others mentioned, are very safe." I've traveled to over 50 countries and have taken trains all over the world. No other commuter line I've been on had 35 stops in 70 minutes which means by definition it had to go very fast. I just recently took a few commuter lines in London-no graffiti, video cameras everywhere so we felt safe, speed was fine. No 35 stops-most lines didn't have more than 10. Have you even taken this commuter route? Where else have you traveled? You said, "Consider leaving the reviews up to professionals and keep your insular, American perspective to yourself." So the average person should keep their opinions to themselves because they might be negative? Oh, and thanks for stereotyping Americans. There's 330 million of us-how many of them do you know well enough that you think this is an American perspective. What country are you from so I can stereotype you?
I when on this train when I was a kid, nothing bad happened but it seemed dodgy but those trains are pretty standard looking for a British person maybe with less graffiti. Just be vigilant and never put things in back pockets and if possible wear a across the body bag.
we went from Sorrento to Pompeii a few years back and i didn't feel uncomfortable at all. Bought tickets from a tobacconists onl several euros. Lots of graffiti but that stuff is everywhere. I feel more uneasy on London's underground these days.
The thing that a lot of tourists don't realise because it's purposefully not advertised very well, is that there's a great bus service that runs from right outside the airport in Naples to the train station in Sorrento, and it's really cheap and reliable. There might be a bit of a wait as they're not that regular, especially out of season, but it's way better than getting the Circumvesuviana!
the NY metro is not any cleaner... what's the problem with 35 stations? is a suburb line, they have a lot of stations... there is an express train btw that runs in only 30mins, u should have taken that one
They have newer trains on the slow train route. They are air conditioned. If you want to get on one look for a black and red train and not a graffiti train
So your great advice to people is that if they don't like one particular train ride, they should just avoid traveling to the rest of the world? As far as coping in Europe, I've taken local trains in Italy, Spain, England, Wales, Austria, etc. as well as commuting on local trains in New York City for 2 years. I have plenty to compare this ride to.
It 's been years since I rode the NYC subway and yes, there are certain neighborhoods that are quite dangerous. Just to be clear, I loved the high speed trains of Italy-some of the best in the world-much better than anything the U.S. has. It's just that this one particular commuter train ride was not what I was expecting.
You would be incorrect. That person is me, and I rode New York subway trains for years. I've taken trains all over the world, including North America, South America, Europe, and Asia. As you saw in the video, this was a graffitti-filled train, stopping at grafitti-filled train stations, going faster than it should given its age, making 35+ stops. It may be "normal" for a commuter train, but the experience can definitely be improved.
Aww Love seeing the video and bringing back memories! My mom and I took this train at 11PM from Rome>Naples>Sorrento on our first trip to Italy. I had researched it ahead of time and knew it was a no frills experience. We took it daily to Pompeii and other adventures. For the price, you can't beat it!
We caught this train in early October this year. Yeah it's definitely an old rattler. Full of people going to Pompeii. I still get a laugh thinking about the plastic seats.
I’m completely with you on this one. I saw this train on the station and it does look like a train from hell 😂 luckily we booked the Campania Express for €10 euros which is so much better.
Hahaha the Circumvesuviana is a once in a lifetime experience, it just must be done. Even better if you don't pay the ticket as many do, cause come on, the service is not worth the money (now I'm being serious). Anyway, the company has been in bankruptcy since forever and it's not Trenitalia (big difference, as much as it sucks Trenitalia still cares about the image or at least tries, EAV just fails thouroughly). The pros of the situation are that train managers are too few for the quantity of people to control
A ferry will definitely be more scenic and less of a hassle. My understanding is that there is another train with less stops and is perhaps more modern, but I really don't know much about it.
All I see is a typical local old commuter train that runs at a decent speed. Btw, in Europe there are trains and trams from the 50s and 60s that are still in service. Where the hell is the ride from hell??
The number of Italians and others in the comments defending this system is honestly tragic, especially AFTER you watch the same video as the rest of us, the state of those trains and the system. Would much rather take the NYC Subway any day of the week 🙌, even from Europe, the America bad trope is getting tired, not all of Europe like this railway, case in point, is a model for the rest of the world - apparent "patriotic" fervor blinding clear cut reason
If I lived there, I wouldn't be criticizing people who point out the obvious, I would put pressure on local authorities to improve the trains and to improve security, unless many people have lower standards and don't want to see any improvements. Now, the high speed train in Italy that I took on Trenitalia is the best. What an awesome ride!
Dude, read my comment just above, they're not defending but pointing out this is exaggerated clickbait. And USA, NYC, Cacafornia, etc etc are 10X WORSE than the worst of Naples.
Took this trip in 1992. Same trains!!. Yes they looked as sketchy as hell, but I've rode on the NYC transit, london underground, and they can be just as bad
The Campania Express is way better, €8 one way with an assigned seat. I took Circumvesuviana from Castellamare di Stabia to Sorrento, won’t dare to go through the same experience again.
try taking the train when it's 5x busier 30c heat and the italians are sticking their heads out the windows. Now thats a journey from hell, yours looked pretty comfortable...
I didn't get that impression at all. I was on that line everyday when staying in Seiano when we were travelling. I was with my wife, 4 year old and 6 month old and we were plenty safe. The only gripe I had was when males would not give up their seat for women. Where I come from, women and children sit and men stand.
East Europe countries, South Italy, Paris and Marseille train stations are the most dangerous place for foreigners, mostly of you have different skin colors, you gonna have troubles in East Europe countries train station.
LOL @ Unbreakable reference!! Coincidentally I've ridden both the Amtrak NEC to/from Philly (aka the train wreck setting from Unbreakable) and just rode the Circumvesuviana for the first time this past Summer. That said, we only rode this train between Pompeii and Sorrento, with our hotel between both in Stabia. Honestly, it wasnt the worst experience in the world but it did remind of my childhood riding the NYC subway back in the 70s.
Is there a bus going to Sorrento? Wow scary to take that train especially traveling alone, I’d be the perfect target!! Thank you for that very important video!!
There's an express train I believe, not sure how often it runs and not sure about a bus. I don't know what the train is like today. Many people say it's fine, and it is inexpensive. If you go during the day, I'm sure it's O.K., but it is a LOT of stops.
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"Vietato Fumare" means "No smoking" and 1975 it's the year when the law against smoking inside was created, it has nothing to do with the inspection.
Yeah but that train was built by an industry which is soo close to where I live, and I could bet that the train is waaaay older than that hahahaha
@@camilla5489 but still working better than some modern trains.
Built in the 50's graffitied up the next day.
This is the most pointless video I've ever seen.
You filmed the Napoli central station, which was refurbished a few years ago and is in great condition. Then you filmed the circumvesuviana platforms in the same station, which is an absolutely standard train platform as you find them everywhere in the world... I've seen worse in important European capital cities, without doing names not to be offensive.
Then you complained about the age and the speed of the train, assuming that it's not safe just because it's old and fast. If it still runs and goes that fast it means it can, if it couldn't there would be accidents all the time, which is not the case.
Then you complained about the big amount of stops... and maybe you don't know that that is not a touristic line, but an essential line that connects the extremely densely populated Vesuvian area to Naples.
Then you complained about the graffiti, and I agree with you on this, I don't like them, but again you are ignoring that keeping the walls of an overpopulated suburban area clean is not easy and is not even priority in an economically depressed metropolis like Naples.
And you were talking and talking about pickpockets without having been pickpocketed yourself, so why were you caring so much?
Man, if you are so anxious you're not made for travelling, just stay home or choose easier destinations. Napoli is not perfect and is surely not for Mr and Mrs Perfect.
Hope you at least managed to enjoy a little bit of the immense beauty you had the chance to visit and you weren't focused only on our imperfections all the time.
To respond to your comments: This isn't a pointless video. I'm pointing out why myself and others were uncomfortable on this train.
I agree the Napoli Central Station looks nice but the Circumvesuviana platform does not and yes, there's worse in some cities and better in others.
Regarding the age of the train, I understand that newer trains are being phased in, which is a good thing. I complained about the large number of stops-of course I did-there's 35 stops in 70 minutes! As I pointed out in the video, this is a train for locals-good for them, bad for tourists.
Regarding the graffiti, I've been to several Asian cities with zero graffiti. Graffiti gives a bad impression to visitors-you should be asking your local authorities to clean it up and have them patrol the stations to prevent those with a lack of respect of property from doing damage.
Naples has a reputation for having pickpockets, especially in the train station. I didn't create this reputation-the pickpockets did, so don't kill the messenger. Why do I care? Because as soon as I arrived in Sorrento, I was told that a couple was just pickpocketed in the Naples train station and had their passport and credit cards stolen. That could have been me. Maybe you should ask them why we should care so much.
You suggest I'm not made for traveling and I should just stay home. You do realize that I've been to over 50 countries on all 7 continents, including many "third world" countries. I just spent almost a month in India in November, so I don't think I'm going to just go to easy destinations. The fact that I'm well traveled and complained about this particular experience should tell you something.
Regarding the immense beauty, if you're referring to Italy as a whole, yes, I did. Italy is my favorite European country. I did not get a chance to visit Naples due to time constraints-my criticism is not of Naples, it's of one train station and one train ride.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures You are free to express your opinions, and I'm free to find them pointless.
I agree with you that stations look nicer without graffiti. Graffiti are a major issue in the whole city and I dislike it too, but this is how it is, our authorities consider it the last of their priorities compared to the city's major issues, so I don't recommend you to come back to see more if you find that so untolerable.
But I have taken the circumvesuviana many times and it is just a damn train, there are better ones but it does the job properly and maybe you didn't realize how cheap the ride was for you to go to such a distant and expensive destination like Sorrento. You paid the price commuters pay and had a taste of our commuters' life, if you didn't like it be glad that you are not forced to do it everyday as they are.
I have lived 3 years in London and although the trains tend to be newer I had the most dreadful train experiences of my life there, much worse than any experience I have ever had with any train in Naples.
This is not to offend any other city but just to say that if you title your video "THE TRAIN RIDE FROM HELL" when nothing bad actually happened to you and you just made everything up with your imagination, you are providing people with a distorted image of my city and I really can't imagine you travelling across the 7 continents with this kind of attitude.
True travellers enjoy discovering the true spirit of the places they explore, they don't expect them to be artificially made up for tourists.
I haven't traveled across 7 continents with that attitude, except when I have a rare negative experience. By the way, others who were with me felt the same way as I did and if you Google this train route, you will find others feel the same way as we did. You can criticize me all you want but as long as you have trains and train stations full of graffiti, trains that are quite old making 35 stops in 70 minutes which is unheard of, pickpockets in the Naples train station, and ticket collectors who have the reputation for ripping off people, my video is the least of your worries. If Naples doesn't address the problems, then tourists will continue to have a negative opinion of Naples, deserved or not.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures For me someone who visits a lovely place like Sorrento and rather than making a nice video about its beauty makes a video about a train ride where he just got a bad impression but nothing actually happened to him, is not someone I call a traveller.
Worrying about these things is not a luxury that a city like ours can afford, get informed about our unemployment rates and "mafia" problems and you will understand why the massively overpopulated suburban area you crossed by train looks dodgy.
Again, that train is not meant for posh tourists, it's meant as public transportation for about 1 million residents of one of the most economically depressed areas of Europe. Wealth is not everywhere and we are not the Principality of Monaco.
I did make a nice video about Sorrento but I get what you're saying.
I took this train two times last week with my family, including a little child. Everything was fine and I felt safe! No need to worry! 🇦🇹❤️🇮🇹
Maybe because your a local and not a tourist
@@buizelmeme6288 I was a tourist there and took this train to Pompei. No problem at all!
I've taken this train and I was a visitor. Nothing bad happened. It's just a train
😂 I guess because u are not been in the right moment in the train. That is why is been safe. Or is not been late
Yea, one of the worst train systems I've ever used was in the USA...
can you elaborate?
What? We have train service in the US? This is news to me.
We spent 6 weeks in Sorrento in the summer of 2019. We used the CIrcumvesuviana for all our travel in between Naples and Sorrento several times. At no time did we feel uncomfortable, threatened or frightened. It was a great experience buying a 30 day ticket and hopping on and off the train in every little town that looked interesting. We kept our money and passports under our clothes. Can't recommend this form of transportation more. Perhaps rush hour isn't the best time, but don't be frightened off by one person's experience.
This is one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. Its almost tempting to think that this was someone parodying a neurotic american, rather than someone's genuine reaction to an entirely normal train station, local train and efficient train network allowing for faster speeds.
I'm American but I'd sure as **** feel safer and less confused on this train than I did using the local trains and subway in NYC!
I worked in NYC in the early 80's and took commuter trains in Manhattan and the Bronx. I'm sure things are much better in NYC now than they were then. I don't recall any of them having close to 35 stops and New York City is a lot bigger than Naples or Sorrento. I guess the difference is some people accept these as "normal" but I don't. Many train stations and trains can be improved but if people want to defend their less than stellar commuter lines, so be it.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures the A line has 66 stops total, apparently. Having googled directions just now, taking the A line right now from 207th St to Rockaway would be 37 stops over 26 miles. Naples to Sorrento now is 32 stops over 28 miles. I think the parallel is pretty apt.
I was thinking the same thing. Normal station, normal train filled with normal looking people. Not sure what the problem is... As far as the 32 station thing, which seems to bother the author so much -- it's called "local train".
@@mashencia1 Exactly. Local trains have lots of stops. Have travelled many times on this line, it's perfectly ok.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures I used NYC subway in 2014, it was an awful experience, especially at night, it was like the scary Bronx of the 80s was around everywhere. And my heart broke at the sight of the too many homeless people hiding in the network station. Thousands of years backwards compared to Europe.
We took the train 2 years ago and it was fine. We Brits are used to public transport!
Agree.... .
Honestly idk what his problem was... Of course you will not get the public transports of Norway in Italy but it looked totally fine...
:) You know, when you travel you need to know the places you visit rather than expect the same things you are used to at home. If that is the case - stay home. This is a local train for residences who happen to work along those lines. I think you should take a private car and I hope they charge you double - your attitude sucks dude. I love the local train - it is exactly like the one that runs between Budapest and Szentendre - many stops along the way for the commuters. Yes, full of graffiti and not terribly comfortable - but it is cheap transportation for those who need to get to work. There are pickpockets everywhere. You never take jewelry on a trip - unless you take the Orient Express. Never carry more money than you need for admission to a museum - credit card protected will get you fed & housed. Back in the 80's actually spent half the night in Naples train station. Our train from Rome got in but the commuter to Sorrento didn't start running until dawn. Love traveling - never expect the host country to cater to me - I'm there to see how it is done locally.
My attitude may suck but a lot of people agree with me based on what I've read after the fact. As I said in the video, I thought this was a local train. I had no expectations at all of what the experience was like. The biggest reason I didn't feel safe was that the train is very old and was going quite fast. I'm personally not worried about pickpockets because I always wear a money belt. By the way, having traveled to over 50 countries and taken many train rides all over the world, if I say I wasn't comfortable, I mean I wasn't comfortable. We did take a private car on the return trip and it was awesome!
This video made by a paranoid American tourist, expecting to get pick pocketed just because someone told him he might. Perhaps he should look at the United States transport system before judging others, having a government who would rather drain the worlds recourses than spend money on their own transport system. Apparently its a problem the train was built in 1975? the L in Chicago was built in 1892?. 35 stops on this trip is also a talking point but isn't this public transport? meaning to serve the public?. Perhaps it should go non stop just for you letting everyone else walk?
Being an Italian I find this video insulting, comparing this trip to a second rate Hollywood movie shows your lack of depth. Looking at your profile you have travelled extensively around the globe and I'm sure you have a gained a lot of experience, which is why I find it perplexing that you find such a small train journey made by millions of people each year such an irritation.
Keep up the good work!
"Paranoid...expecting to get pick pocketed." You do know that the Naples train station has had a long standing reputation for pickpockets. You did see in the video when I mentioned that when we arrived in Sorrento, the hotel owner told us that two of their guests were just pick pocketed in the Naples train station and had their credit cards and passports stolen. That's not paranoia-that's reality. Yes, going 100 miles per hour on a 40 year old train is a problem. Yes, for tourists, having 35 stops during a 70 minute ride is a major inconvenience but for locals it's perfect since they need to get off wherever they live-that's understandable. Seeing graffiti at every station didn't exactly give me a great impression of that area. I do have a lot of travel experience and have ridden many trains around the world, including New York City, where some of them are not dissimilar to the Naples-Sorrento line. While I do understand why you may find this video insulting, perhaps instead of criticizing me, you should be criticizing the pick pockets and graffiti artists who give us tourists a bad impression of that area and who have created and perpetuated the negative stereotypes.
@Andy's Awesome Adventures You certainly weren’t going 100
Mph this is a narrow gauge train which isn’t capable of doing that. Nothing actually happened to you so how you can claim there are are pick pockets all the time just because someone said there were is ridiculous. People get shot in the US all the time, well that’s what I’d think if I listened to the media but i don’t claim to have experienced it. Every city in the world has graffiti and as appalling as it is it’s an unfortunate fact of life because kids have nothing better to do. What do you expect from a small suburban railway? Your video gives no message apart from picking on the points that every commuter line in the world has.
In the video, I actually said it felt like the train was going 100 mph, not that we were going 100 mph. Never claimed pick pockets are there all the time but they are certainly there. Nothing happened to us because we took precautions-not everyone does. Not every city in the world has graffiti-been to several Asian cities with zero graffiti. If you watch the other 40 videos I made in Italy that are either currently on my channel or soon to be, you will find that I love Italy-it's one of my favorite countries in the world of the 50+ countries I've been to. We had a great experience over the two weeks we were there but this train ride was not one of them. That's all I'm saying.
Andy's Awesome Adventures Have you ever heard of concept of "Maintenace"? I bet you had had not any fear if riding a Nostalgia Steam Train that is far better more dangerous. Obsolete trains are retired from service at scheduled times. I know it, because I've seen where these retired trains are stationing before being recycled. If this train is still in service and has not been retired, it means it is perfectly safe.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures you do know that your chances of being mugged,attacked or worse in Europe are miniscule compared to the States
I'm a Brit and I've been through those train stations and never had any issues. I've been in train stations all over Europe and America and some are nice and some aren't. Some tourists just think the rest of the world should roll out the red carpet whenever they arrive.
You remind me of those fools that say a city or a neighborhood isn’t dangerous because they have never seen or experienced any crime there. Yet, if you read the newspaper or watch the news, you know it’s dangerous there. Same goes with this train. Even Rick Steves says it’s bad news! I suspect that if you rode it long enough, you too will become a victim of a pickpocket. The only cure for stupid and gullible is experience.
If you want a fun and exhilarating ride then this is 4 euros well spent.
My thinking was to do what the locals do and experience the “real life”.
Use the paris metro stations in some of the suburbs if you want to feel unsafe, this looks fine, well lit and crowded
I rode this train a lot in my recent visit to Naples..it was perfectly fine. 35 stops that’s ridiculous, you probably rode the wrong train route u do have to pay attention. The ride to Sorrento was about 3 Euros. Rather pay that than the 30 euros the so call travel guides that r offered everywhere (which I paid once before learning about this train. Yes it’s busy, yes u have to be careful with your belongings but that’s just common sense anywhere you travel. If u want to guarantee a seat enter the the train in Porto Nolano which is about a 8 minute walk from where you buy ur ticket. It’s where all trains deport from. This train stops at Pompei,Herculium, Caserta palace Sorrento and it’s sooooo cheap..Save you’re Euros for the fabulous pizza,gelatos,coffee ,patties and Italian beer..we stayed right by the train station so it was awesome took the trains and metro everywhere. Love Naples Italy. This was my third trip in the last 10 months and every time I find something new. Discovered old Naples this last visit. It’s a must soo much better then Via Toledo street. Lots of street side food little places to drink 🍋 chello sprits. And it’s waking distance from train station.
I have taken the public transport system in the US (which I guess is where you are from) and to be honest the NYC subway is much worse than this. No departure screens, grafittis everywhere and rats. MILLIONS OF THEM ! this is a suburban commuter line where robbers don't go. they prefer to rob in touristy areas where people think spending 125 euros for a taxi is ok.
I worked in New York City back in the early 1980's and what you said was true back then but today, there's actually a lot less graffiti and a lot of the graffiti that is there is actually done by people from outside the U.S. I never saw rats back then but I don't doubt that it's a problem. Also, I'm sure certain parts of New York City are worse than others.
The US is not New York, and YES NY has some old unkept subways stations, but That doesn't excludes him for criticizing this horrendous train.
@@kelvinhernandez5893The US is now NYC but 10X WORSE. There are literally hundreds of Naples' in US again only 10X worse...and you know it.
An American complaining about a train ride in Italy...meanwhile he doesn't realise the public transportation situation in his own country is alot more dire, with dirties train trains and more violent crimes being committed.
I'm very well aware of the public transportation situation in the U.S. I took the New York subway to the Bronx years ago and took the subway in Manhattan every day back then. The U.S. is well behind Europe in long distance trains. I thought the Trenitalia high speed train I took on this same trip was outstanding. We're probably behind in commuter trains as well, but this video wasn't about the U.S. train system, it was about one train ride I took from Naples to Sorrento.
There was a bus that left outside the airport at Naples and went straight to Sorrento train station. We took that down to Sorrento and was a lovely ride. We used the trains to get around while staying in Sorrento and didn't have a bad experience. There were some men with accordian's getting on late afternoon when people seemed to be going home from work. We would hear the music as they worked their way up the carriages and every so often they would stick their hands in someone's face for money but almost all the Italians ignored them. Two sat opposite us one day obviously going home themselves and my 6 year daughter made eye contact and got a couple of Euro's out of her purse and they played for her. That was lovely.
On the way back to the airport, we did take the train to Naples station and then a taxi outside after we agreed the price. That itself was an experience! It reminded me of Mario Cart! Dented cars squeezing in between each other and horns blasting. I loved it and would do it again but I would understand how others might prefer not to!
The only bad experience we had in Italy was in Ercolano. The ruins were fantastic but when you're hot and tired and just want a cold drink, I can't stress enough how you should still check out reviews on trip advisor before you enter a restaurant. The smiling pretty girls outside, waving menus and welcoming you in to one particular pizza restaurant hide its awful reviews for scamming people.
If staying in Sorrento though and you just want good, home cooked food, visit the Master Hosts restaurant. Food is lovely, service is great and prices are fantastic. Full of locals which is what we always look for.
Nothing unsafe about it ,I was on the train today amazing scenery and friendly people .Yes a bit of graffiti on the train but so what. It’s perfectly safe and cheap ,and I am not from this part of the world but realise that graffiti and a crowded train doesn’t make it unsafe.Like Glasgow where I’m from people make the place .It is a great train journey.And Neapolitans are the the friendliest people in Italy,.
@ Mark Cuthbert grazia mille 😊
Thanks
There is also a train that runs four or five times a day that only stops four times on the way to sorrento . We took it in September not very crowded, can’t remember the name something express. I heard horror stories about pick pockets in station too , but use your head wallet in front pocket, or a money belt . The station was very modern clean .
Mike Sutcliffe Campania Express is the name of the train
First time out of your car bro? Try riding our public transport system (USA). I didn't see any crazy, drugged up, violent homeless people or gangs of youth randomly attacking people in your video. Their system looks like paradise compared to what we put up with.
I've taken trains all over the world, including in the Bronx, New York. Yes, there are public transport systems worse than this, but that's not what this video is about.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventuresYou mentioned in your older comments never seeing rats, and little graffiti in NYC stations...lolololol...who you trying to kid? And have you seen the cities of Cacafornia? LA, Oakland, especially...the graffiti LITERALLY is EVERYWHERE on EVERYTHING, it's mind boggling...tents, homeless, tons and tons of garbage, addicts, crime galore, dilapidated crumbling buildings. Even around Beverly Hills, graffiti, homeless, trash. Naples has some bad areas but that and parts of Palermo are the worst of Italy, USA has literally HUNDREDS of Naples' only 10X WORSE. Then visit Barcelona, Marseilles, Athens, Berlin, Eastern Europe, Belgium, etc and Asia may not have the graffiti nearly as bad, but it has every other problem I listed above. You seriously want to compare this train with those in India, Philippines, Africa, Middle East, South America?? I've seen so many Americans over the years criticizing Naples, posting disparaging videos. But those days of embarrassing Naples and Italy are over. Look at YOUR country, Naples is paradise in comparison.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventuresP.S. The vast majority of those pickpockets are Roma people and immigrants. A problem in all the western countries especially Europe.
It is a suburban railway but with lovely views. We used it as tourists and it is crowded but it was enjoyable. I didn't feel unsafe but then maybe as a Londoner I'm more used to such transport. I'd love to be able to go back and use it again.
So this guy had a safe trip, arrived on time and wasn’t the victim of any crime?
LOL. Dante's Inferno would have been extremely boring if this would have been his description of 'hell'.
If you want to experience a $20 cup of coffee, go to Venice. If you want to experience Renaissance paintings of naked people, go to Florence. If you want to experience people who wish they were German and not Italian, go to Milan. If you want to experience Italy, go to Naples.
If that is the case. Then Italy sucks! LOL!
No Italian wishes they were German , it's the reverse.
I took that ride in 1973 when the train was new and clean and cheap. I took the same ride with the wife in 2017. I swear it was the same train! It was crowded with young beachgoers who were almost shocked to see tourists. We took the hydrofoil back to Naples.
1975 is the date of the “no smoke” law
Good to know, thanks, although it felt like the train was built in 1975.
Andy's Awesome Adventures you’re close...1978/79 lol
R. R. First ones were from 1978/79. Last trains of this series were purchased in 1984 or 86 I think.
New ones (those with flat front cabs) are from 2010/11 or so. Very recent 23 trains are starting being delivered by factory from December 2018, and you can spot them as they have full-marine blue color.
@@raffaeleirlanda6966 no the flat front (ugly btw) is from the 90s. 2011 --》 its the Metrostar.
Guys it is not that bad. It is safe if you have street smart. An alternative is actually take a ferry from the port.
Funny, traveled this exact same route about a month ago, no pick pockets even though train was crowded. Safe, easy run, very, very inexpensive versus a private car. If he is that afraid, I wonder how afraid he would be with the graffiti covered streets of almost every major Italian city! This train may max out at 50 or 60 kph, nowhere near 100. Yep, you want a private car, it is about 25 to 30 times more expensive. Traveling the Circumvesuviana is no different than any other major metro train system in the western world.
me too. i went with my mum but i was so scared after reading the reviews but as long as you’re vigilant then you’ll be fine.
Its a local train its perfectly normal for them to have more stops. I've never been to America but I'm sure they have trains that have plenty of stops for small journeys. Its meant to mostly serve the locals who need to travel to and from work. If you want a faster way you should have done more research and found an alternative route
I did do my research and the non-commuter trains did not show up in my research.
Just been on the Sorrento to Pompei train, so shocked at the train station at Pompei. One of the worlds most popular tourist attractions, yet they can’t clean up graffiti and paint the buildings, get rid of weeds, the trains were covered in graffiti. Then there were the rip off merchants and the ticket seller who gave us the wrong tickets to get to Herculaneum, wasting 2 hours. It was like I was in some Middle Eastern country or transported back to 1930🤦♀️
Look at your own continent aussie, I watch that famous aussie video guy and your neighborhoods are nothing to Russell crow about.
Being from NYC this is doesn't sound so bad.
Let's say the train was built in the 1970s and its top speed was 60 kilometers per hour. Best 4 euros spent.
I’m a Londoner so used to train/tube travel. I’ve used this the Circumversuviana train many times the last being 2 weeks ago on several trips each time from Sorrento to Naples, to Pompeii, Castelammare de Stabia, Torre Annunziata. At no time did I feel unsafe in fact quite the opposite. I’ve also used the metro in Naples several times, no problems.
O metrô de Nova Iorque também é uma nojeira... e continua sendo o metrô de Nova Iorque.
that train was from ancient rome empire. its historic train and italy does not want to destroy histrory
The train and the ride is perfectly safe - we just took it today. It might feel a bit different for some people as it did for us as well, but never did we feel unsafe or threatened. A lot of tourists on the trip as well :)
This is hilarious. Try riding the trains in Los Angeles, with violent crazy homeless people and with sick and shit everywhere. Naples to me was not like London or Paris but it was pretty great.
I've lived in Los Angeles for almost 40 years and have never taken the train (never needed to) but I used to take the New York subway all the time.
I would rather take this €4 train ride than a €125 car ride any day.
Just took this train today with my wife. . Cheap, cheerful and worked like a charm.
Absolutely nothing to worry about guys. Very odd video.
We took this train in 2016 from Naples to Meta. We had a group of musicians playing lively loud music on the train they would be happy to take some donations I think. Some of the windows of the train were covered in graffiti partially blocking the view. We didn't have any problem and the folks on the train were perfectly fine. I had watched videos on the internet describing Sorrento as not a destination but a jumping off point to other places. I though the entire Campania region was beautiful and awesome, I would love to go back anytime.
I made a Sorrento video and in it, I mention that while many people use it as a jumping off point, it's worth seeing on its own merit.
This kind of videos made me so scared before taking the train to Sorrento, and it was FINE! And I was a female solo traveler. Yes, you have to careful and be aware of your surroundings, but it is safe. If you don’t want to make a line to buy tickets once you get in Naples, you can buy tickets online from Campania Express in advance and they even have someone to guide you, it costs $15 each way
We met thieves and we rode this train just once in a lifetime... They were operating in groups 😡 trying to steal everything. Looking into people's pockets, purses, bags and kneeling over. We did not got anything stolen but it was stressfull and shitty situation. They were not hiding it at all...
vast majority are Roma people/immigrants, not Italians.
I took the circumvesuviana last year on September to go from Napoli to sorrento. The truth is not the very nice train, later to return from sorrento to napoli we took another one that makes the same route faster, has fewer stops, arrives quickly and only costs a little more
It looked like a fine train ride to me. What's the problem? Italian trains are outstanding. From experience, you just have to watch out for Romas lurking at the kiosks. You will have to push the ticket agents to do extra work; get all the train details of your itinerary from the agents whenever you need to make a connection. (eg. Connecting in Salerno or Empoli)
Has this guy never been on a train?
Never, this was my first train ride, expect for the train rides I took in Peru, Italy, England, Wales, the New York subway, Alaska, Ireland, Japan, Vietnam and India!
They now have the Campania Express that has 8 stops, A/C, assigned seats.
We took this train both ways. It's some messed up kind of an adventure and I'd recommend taking the ferry from Naples to Sorrento, a lot cheaper than a private car and has the benefit of no traffic jams. Sure the train stops 35 times, but Italian driving, not sure I'd be paying a premium to enjoy that over this.
You can also take the ferry for about 15€
Only takes you 30 minutes
@@EH-bb6wu How far is the ferry from Naples train station?
That train haven't been buildt in 1975 but that sign told about a law (11 november 1975 ) which say:"NO SMOKING ON THE TRAIN".
This happens to be a hellish railway in a paradisiac orography. This happens to be useful to tourists as well but it was conceived to be useful to a huge mass of local people that needs to move around the area. I was a local there, and I have to admit that I do not like graffiti or the possibility to be robbed, but having seen a lot of other suburban railways in the world I have to say that a crowded train full of locals is always safer than a half-empty train with dislocated passengers with no roots with the territory.
I have a strange memory of this train. Many years ago, the doors opened and an insect big as a cat jumped into the carriage causing a lot of shock to all (a sort of grasshopper). Then a tough guy managed to kill the "beast" and another one said: - it might be the only living thing on board that paid for the ticket.
35 stops. Well, that is how the territory is. A lot of densely inhabited little towns that need to be linked together. Naples and Sorrento being the attractive headlines is just a chancy feature of the line. Circumvesuviana was not born as a touristic infrastructure.
I grew up on that train, and you're right. It's even so much better now than it was in the '90s.
They are crowded and old train. They can also be delayed but I never had issues with them. Quite cheap too
We caught a bus from Naples direct to Sorrento. It was very affordable and didn't take too long 😊
Honestly, a completely misleading title. Naples train station is no more prone to pickpocketing than any other main station in Europe. You’d know this if you indeed did do the research on your adventures. I’m curious what adventures you’ve ever done if this transit seems unsafe to you. Most Trams in urban European centres travel at speeds similar to this in similar condition and as others mentioned, are very safe. Consider leaving the reviews up to professionals and keep your insular, American perspective to yourself.
Sorry you were so offended, snowflake. I said at the beginning this might be an exaggeration. You said, "Naples train station is no more prone to pickpocketing than any other main station in Europe. You’d know this if you indeed did do the research on your adventures." Tell that to the couple who were just pick pocketed there when I was there and had their passports and credit cards stolen. I did do my research and a lot of people said not to take that train but that was our only choice. You said, "I’m curious what adventures you’ve ever done if this transit seems unsafe to you. Most Trams in urban European centres travel at speeds similar to this in similar condition and as others mentioned, are very safe." I've traveled to over 50 countries and have taken trains all over the world. No other commuter line I've been on had 35 stops in 70 minutes which means by definition it had to go very fast. I just recently took a few commuter lines in London-no graffiti, video cameras everywhere so we felt safe, speed was fine. No 35 stops-most lines didn't have more than 10. Have you even taken this commuter route? Where else have you traveled? You said, "Consider leaving the reviews up to professionals and keep your insular, American perspective to yourself." So the average person should keep their opinions to themselves because they might be negative? Oh, and thanks for stereotyping Americans. There's 330 million of us-how many of them do you know well enough that you think this is an American perspective. What country are you from so I can stereotype you?
Took the train last month to get to Sorrento, it really isn’t that bad. Only annoyance was having little to no space for the luggage I had brought.
its commonly used by tourists, hardly unsafe
When I took the train in 2007, with all the grime and grafitti, it reminded me of the NYC subways in the 70s and early 80s.
I when on this train when I was a kid, nothing bad happened but it seemed dodgy but those trains are pretty standard looking for a British person maybe with less graffiti. Just be vigilant and never put things in back pockets and if possible wear a across the body bag.
we went from Sorrento to Pompeii a few years back and i didn't feel uncomfortable at all. Bought tickets from a tobacconists onl several euros. Lots of graffiti but that stuff is everywhere. I feel more uneasy on London's underground these days.
The thing that a lot of tourists don't realise because it's purposefully not advertised very well, is that there's a great bus service that runs from right outside the airport in Naples to the train station in Sorrento, and it's really cheap and reliable. There might be a bit of a wait as they're not that regular, especially out of season, but it's way better than getting the Circumvesuviana!
the NY metro is not any cleaner... what's the problem with 35 stations? is a suburb line, they have a lot of stations...
there is an express train btw that runs in only 30mins, u should have taken that one
When I did my research, I didn't see anything about the express train. Had I seen that, I would have taken it.
My comment is just that the journey shown is less sketchy than many similar train trips in the US. It's public transport, basic and effective.
Naples is a fab city
That local train between Naples and Sorrento gets the job done
All those places you mentioned are fab to
They have newer trains on the slow train route. They are air conditioned. If you want to get on one look for a black and red train and not a graffiti train
250 euros to avoid using the circumvesuviana? I wonder how much he'd pay to avoid the New York Subway.
I took the New York subway for 2 1/2 years when I worked there.
You guys are so clueless abut NYC.
Video out of date in 2024. See more recent YT videos that show latest trains.
I backpacked on the train by myself & had many people looking at me as it was packed & I had many bags. Never again ahaha
There are ferries from Napoli to Sorrento
Embarrassing. Whilst it's basic, it is brilliant value for money!
Don't travel to any other continent if you can't cope in Europe.
So your great advice to people is that if they don't like one particular train ride, they should just avoid traveling to the rest of the world? As far as coping in Europe, I've taken local trains in Italy, Spain, England, Wales, Austria, etc. as well as commuting on local trains in New York City for 2 years. I have plenty to compare this ride to.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures This people can't take a critic don't bother!
Ferry is 20 euros return and takes 35 mins.. No pick pockets either🙄
Did u ever ride the New York City subway!
All the time when I worked in NYC-in Manhattan to work, to The Bronx for Yankee games.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures you seem happy with the nyc subway, I would be more concerned about getting murdered not picked pocked
It 's been years since I rode the NYC subway and yes, there are certain neighborhoods that are quite dangerous. Just to be clear, I loved the high speed trains of Italy-some of the best in the world-much better than anything the U.S. has. It's just that this one particular commuter train ride was not what I was expecting.
@@AndysAwesomeAdventures I took the same train from Sorento to Pompeii and love it
this person has definitely not experienced public transport. It such a normal train ride.
You would be incorrect. That person is me, and I rode New York subway trains for years. I've taken trains all over the world, including North America, South America, Europe, and Asia. As you saw in the video, this was a graffitti-filled train, stopping at grafitti-filled train stations, going faster than it should given its age, making 35+ stops. It may be "normal" for a commuter train, but the experience can definitely be improved.
Aww Love seeing the video and bringing back memories! My mom and I took this train at 11PM from Rome>Naples>Sorrento on our first trip to Italy. I had researched it ahead of time and knew it was a no frills experience. We took it daily to Pompeii and other adventures. For the price, you can't beat it!
Do you know the meaning of LOCAL?
thank you Andy
You are very welcome!
I had the time of my life on this train.
We caught this train in early October this year. Yeah it's definitely an old rattler. Full of people going to Pompeii. I still get a laugh thinking about the plastic seats.
Do your majesty preferred to have velvet seats?
I’m completely with you on this one. I saw this train on the station and it does look like a train from hell 😂 luckily we booked the Campania Express for €10 euros which is so much better.
Hahaha the Circumvesuviana is a once in a lifetime experience, it just must be done. Even better if you don't pay the ticket as many do, cause come on, the service is not worth the money (now I'm being serious). Anyway, the company has been in bankruptcy since forever and it's not Trenitalia (big difference, as much as it sucks Trenitalia still cares about the image or at least tries, EAV just fails thouroughly). The pros of the situation are that train managers are too few for the quantity of people to control
bruh its not a local train its like a narrow gauge metro tram system
Omg.. i was going to take this train tommorow.. thanks for posting this!
You could have taken the express train....
Also never got ever been to Penn station in New York? 🤕
Need to get from Sorrento to Naples this October and I'm glad to have seen your video. Will definitely take the ferry.
A ferry will definitely be more scenic and less of a hassle. My understanding is that there is another train with less stops and is perhaps more modern, but I really don't know much about it.
All I see is a typical local old commuter train that runs at a decent speed. Btw, in Europe there are trains and trams from the 50s and 60s that are still in service. Where the hell is the ride from hell??
The number of Italians and others in the comments defending this system is honestly tragic, especially AFTER you watch the same video as the rest of us, the state of those trains and the system. Would much rather take the NYC Subway any day of the week 🙌, even from Europe, the America bad trope is getting tired, not all of Europe like this railway, case in point, is a model for the rest of the world - apparent "patriotic" fervor blinding clear cut reason
If I lived there, I wouldn't be criticizing people who point out the obvious, I would put pressure on local authorities to improve the trains and to improve security, unless many people have lower standards and don't want to see any improvements. Now, the high speed train in Italy that I took on Trenitalia is the best. What an awesome ride!
Dude, read my comment just above, they're not defending but pointing out this is exaggerated clickbait. And USA, NYC, Cacafornia, etc etc are 10X WORSE than the worst of Naples.
Took this trip in 1992. Same trains!!. Yes they looked as sketchy as hell, but I've rode on the NYC transit, london underground, and they can be just as bad
The Campania Express is way better, €8 one way with an assigned seat. I took Circumvesuviana from Castellamare di Stabia to Sorrento, won’t dare to go through the same experience again.
The trains have a top speed of only 50 MPH because Of the narrow tracks.
And they say that Central or East Europe looks bad....
This guy would soil is underwear on Philadelphia's Broad Street subway if he is fearful on the Naples train to Sorrento.
I used to take the subway in the Bronx, New York, so I think you'd be wrong about that!
The 1975 on 1:03 is the introduction of no-smoking bylaw date. With finas from 1000 to 10000 lires.
try taking the train when it's 5x busier 30c heat and the italians are sticking their heads out the windows. Now thats a journey from hell, yours looked pretty comfortable...
Sh#t!!! Sound like India. LOL!!!
I like the 70s looks of new York!!!🇮🇹🇺🇸🇵🇷from the Bronx,💞😂🙏
I was born in the Bronx and lived there until I was 8.
I didn't get that impression at all. I was on that line everyday when staying in Seiano when we were travelling. I was with my wife, 4 year old and 6 month old and we were plenty safe. The only gripe I had was when males would not give up their seat for women. Where I come from, women and children sit and men stand.
Ry Telford Thanks for the testimony. 😀😎😘
gender equality
Can't wait for the sequel: "Amalfi Armageddon".
East Europe countries, South Italy, Paris and Marseille train stations are the most dangerous place for foreigners, mostly of you have different skin colors, you gonna have troubles in East Europe countries train station.
South Italy is like africa
lol. This guy needs to toughen up and grow a set. I was on this train a few months ago and it’s fine.
Graffiti!? Good God!
lmao i get the sarcasm haha
LOL @ Unbreakable reference!! Coincidentally I've ridden both the Amtrak NEC to/from Philly (aka the train wreck setting from Unbreakable) and just rode the Circumvesuviana for the first time this past Summer. That said, we only rode this train between Pompeii and Sorrento, with our hotel between both in Stabia. Honestly, it wasnt the worst experience in the world but it did remind of my childhood riding the NYC subway back in the 70s.
Is there a bus going to Sorrento? Wow scary to take that train especially traveling alone, I’d be the perfect target!! Thank you for that very important video!!
There's an express train I believe, not sure how often it runs and not sure about a bus. I don't know what the train is like today. Many people say it's fine, and it is inexpensive. If you go during the day, I'm sure it's O.K., but it is a LOT of stops.
Just be aware and enjoy. It all looked fine to me. Get an Uba if your scared 😅