At the end of homecoming when tony offered the suit to peter he refused but if tony was there in place of peter, tony would have accepted the suit thats what changed tony's mentality
i hates when people were saying that tony took over spider-man’s movie and shouldn’t have been in it so much but what they failed to realize is that you can’t hand a kid a football and tell him to make it to the nfl with no help that kid is going to want help and a mentor and someone to look up to so they can grow and succeed so i say that tony helped peter while peter helped tony and it was a relationship i adore because it was like a broken father learning to love a kid and a kid learning to look up to someone and be a better person
matthew turner technically not broken father cause he wasn’t a father until endgame. He was just pepper’s boyfriend then became husband at the end of homecoming
I disagree. There are plenty actors that only ever play themselves and at some point it gets annoying or predictable. Actors that portray multitudes of personalities disjunct from other characters they play are good actors. Whenever you watch a movie, you want to see the character, not the actor.
No, that's how you spot a great Typecast. Otherwise, it would be the other way around. If an actor was able to portray a character so well that they appear like a completely different person, NOW THAT'S how you spot a great actor.
The picture of Tony & Peter isn't just the reason Tony "worked out" time travel, it was a clue on HOW to work out time travel, if you look at the photo, they're holding a certificate, which is upside down (inverted), then he brings up the mobius strip, and inverts it, et voila, time travel worked out!!!
He was looking at the pic cause Peter was the reason for working on that. But yeah, you're right, that scene was about figuring out how to time travel.
I would like to point out that yensen's death in Iron Man 1 was actually a huge part and a great reason for a selfish guy change into a responsible guy who wants to change things around him and make it better for all. He even went to greater measures as even fighting his own teammates to ensure that there will a protective protocol under right hands and people of the planet are safe from any and all threats. And this all sense of compassion and responsibility started when he saw yensen die for him , and even after sacrificing himself, yensen's final words were, live.
Also I deeply agree that Tony became more mature when Peter came into picture, but it's not that Peter was a turning point, he started taking responsibilities, but was not that serious about it, but when he saw himself in Peter he realised that he doesn't want Peter to become a version of himself, He wanted Peter to be better. That's what brought our the best and most responsible and most serious version of The Tony Stark.
You are not wrong but a character arc and its development takes a few turning points. In my opinion Yinsen's death was the first point it made him put his heart in Iron man. Second one was pepper, It worked more as a personal regiment so...👀and last but not the least was peter. Well maybe there was Morgan too but we haven't seen much of a post Morgan tony so...👀
@@luciferosborn3319 yup idk if you got that from when Peter says he wants to be like Tony and Tony saying and I wanted you to be better and God I sound like my father. A bunch of people aren't really hip on the whole Tony and Peter relationship. Now that No Way Home has been released and we're going to get Peter becoming his own man with everyone forgetting his identity we've got the best of both now.
The amount of detail in these movies makes me think that these characters are actually real and they live among us. That’s how amazing marvel really is.
People say that Steve Rogers be a better mentor to Peter Parker. But deep down Tony was the better mentor in a much deeper level. Tony had his wealth and intelligence on tech, that was his Powers which flood his ego, soon to realize the mistakes he has made when he realize the terrorist are using his weapons. We know the story behind Spider-Man, even to the greater extent the original 616 Peter Parker, he was about to become a TV Sensation and his ego got the better of him. Led to the death of Uncle Ben. Without a doubt Tony saw a lot of himself in Peter, and Peter is growing up in a world full of Super Powered Freaks at a young age. Tony knew Peter will need to learn more.
To be honest, if Pepper had died in Iron Man 3, Tony would have died minutes later xD After all, she's the one who took down the Mandarin One happy couple, complaining about giant bunnies in Heaven
7:11 not just that but also he got the idea of the mobius strip time travel.As you can see in the photo,Peter was holding the certificate upside down which gave him the idea of inverting the mobius strip for time travel.
I think Tony also changed a lot when he was trapped on the ship with Peter in Infinity War... Maybe it was like being on a spiritual journey with the better part of his consciousness.
@The Canadian Lad... If you watched the "Agent Carter" TV series, you would have noticed that Tony Stark's story Arc mirrors his father's (Howard Stark). Watch "Captain America - the first Avenger", "Agent Carter", "Iron-Man" (1, 2 & 3), "Ant-Man", "Captain America - Civil War", and "Avengers Endgame" (Howard Stark's story arc). You'll see that history repeats itself through his son (Tony Stark).
1. This guy is criminaly underrated.. 2. I am sure most of the things our Canadian lad says are just great coincidences and MCU never didn't even think about it. 3. Much support 😉
I love how he's just like, "Peter's just like Tony but just younger and poorer," and the first thing that comes to my mind is: Tony: STONKS Peter: NOT STONKS What is wrong with me?
What Tony see's in Peter is his past self. The only difference is that Tony grew up with his parents while Peter grew up with his Aunt. He doesn't want Peter to experience what he did growing up that's why he made his best to be Peter's not just a friend, but also a father figure.
LOVE this. That father/son, mentor/apprentice relationship was huge in creating the epic nature of the infinity war story. Epic is the only word to describe the last 10 years (just thinking about that is awesome) so incredible. Thanks to this channel for highlighting the masterful writing, OCD attention to detail and powerful acting talent in every film. Stan Lee died a happy man I’m sure. Excelsior!
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That cape has a personality. It just doesn't talk, but it shows clear signs of frustration when Peter starts talking and even that "What did you just say" attitude when Peter says it's Tony's fault for him being in Space
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100% agree. a well done development of personality, from "...if my math is right, and always ...." (Iron Man 1, when Tony explain Yinsen) to "I was wrong" (Spider-Man: Homecoming).
I got the moment in Avengers: Endgame, exactly why Tony Stark saw himself in Peter Parker. After taking the gauntlet from Black Panther, SpiderMan never loses track of the gauntlet until Captain Marvel took charge though he was terribly injured by rain fire. He never left his responsibilities though he was in life risk, what Tony Stark usually does! That was one of the iconic moment
*There is only one thing that raises questions.* Tony Stark says to Peter Parker at the very first meeting in #CivilWar, when Peter Parker asks Tony *if this is paid well,* Tony answers him with: *"Of course it will be paid well"* Peter Parker/ Spiderman had done his mission in #CivilWar and *should have received a fee.* And don't forget that Tony has been a Multi-Billionaire since day one. *I don't think he rewarded him with just 100,000$, but at least a Million Dollar, where did they go in Spiderman Home Coming, and Far From Home?*
Tony was just agreeing that it involved money because of the stark internship as shown in civil war scene where tony gives students some money for projects. He was just improvising😂. Anyways spiderman doesn't do good work for money.
The contract that tony made with the government also protects Peter parker And yes tony probably left a little bank account to peter as a gift with some millions in it Remember that peter technically is still a teenager Its not until the phase 5 that Spiderman character will be grown And he will lead the young avengers team
I think you overstate the similarity in personality. Peter is a smart ass, Tony is an asshole. What really freaks Tony out is he looks at Peter and sees all the brilliance and potential that he had at that age, but in a much much better person. Tony has one true berserk button in the entire MCU. When you hurt someone that he thinks is a better person than himself. Yinsen, Coulson, that lady's son who died in Sokovia at the start of Civil War, and Peter.
I even wanted to add the fact that Peter Parker was younger than Yinsen so he was attatched to him moreover. Also Yinsen and Tony didn't talk this much and spent that much time toghether but we could say that Tony and Yinsen were good friends.
The only thing missing from this is the scene in Far from home where Peter is talking to Happy about Tony. Its unfortunate that the video was made before its' release.
It was in a desperate situation tho There was not really a choice They were Trying to nuke New York If that Missile had drop New york would have been erase
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Tony's death was incredibly sad, but the inclusion of his and Peter's relationship in the MCU made it even more depressing
I like when Peter says it's actually Tony's fault and even the cape goes like, are you serious?
yes, I saw the cape's reaction too 😂
I also like how the cape shakes its neck color/head like: "Seriously kid, shut the heck up already!" XD
My entire theater gasped and said "uh oh" when they saw Tony's reaction
I didn't even notice the capes reaction but that just made the scene better!
@@jadedj5385 i wish i had seen this movie in theaters
9:25 In Spiderman homecoming: I'm just grabbing the door we're not there yet.
Endgame: first and last realest hug
That parallel was intentional I believe.
@@_briandickerson_ true. Just pointing it out.
when i saw their hug in endgame i literally said out loud, theyre there now
Okay you just made me want to watch the whole MCU saga.
CyclingAddict again. You forgot again
Yes you forgot the "again" say it againnn
Do it.
just Do IT
Do it broly?
Ant man:*goes in tony's suit*
Tony:*builds mark 50*
STONKS
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At the end of homecoming when tony offered the suit to peter he refused but if tony was there in place of peter, tony would have accepted the suit thats what changed tony's mentality
But finally Peter accepted...
Dude yes!!
@@krkvibes Mostly because if Tony didn't force the suit on him, Peter was going to die. Pretty sure even Peter understands that.
And then he had to propose pepper pots in front of the media😊😊😊😊☺️☺️☺️
And that famous question to john "did you get the ring"
4:24 add in top of this Peter's exactly opposite reaction
Yinsen: "I want this."
Peter:"I don't want to go... I'm sorry."
i hates when people were saying that tony took over spider-man’s movie and shouldn’t have been in it so much but what they failed to realize is that you can’t hand a kid a football and tell him to make it to the nfl with no help that kid is going to want help and a mentor and someone to look up to so they can grow and succeed so i say that tony helped peter while peter helped tony and it was a relationship i adore because it was like a broken father learning to love a kid and a kid learning to look up to someone and be a better person
True
But people mad because Tony and Peter are friends in comics.
But I like this version also
matthew turner technically not broken father cause he wasn’t a father until endgame. He was just pepper’s boyfriend then became husband at the end of homecoming
You know an actors good when he adds himself into what he's playing
what
I disagree. There are plenty actors that only ever play themselves and at some point it gets annoying or predictable. Actors that portray multitudes of personalities disjunct from other characters they play are good actors.
Whenever you watch a movie, you want to see the character, not the actor.
5cript that depends on the who the actual character who and who the actor is
No, that's how you spot a great Typecast. Otherwise, it would be the other way around. If an actor was able to portray a character so well that they appear like a completely different person, NOW THAT'S how you spot a great actor.
So only dudes? And not necessarily
I always got the impression that Tony saw Peter as the son he never had but realized he wanted.
The picture of Tony & Peter isn't just the reason Tony "worked out" time travel, it was a clue on HOW to work out time travel, if you look at the photo, they're holding a certificate, which is upside down (inverted), then he brings up the mobius strip, and inverts it, et voila, time travel worked out!!!
He was looking at the pic cause Peter was the reason for working on that. But yeah, you're right, that scene was about figuring out how to time travel.
Watch his video he has depicted that detail when he saw the movie in 0.25x speed
I would like to point out that yensen's death in Iron Man 1 was actually a huge part and a great reason for a selfish guy change into a responsible guy who wants to change things around him and make it better for all. He even went to greater measures as even fighting his own teammates to ensure that there will a protective protocol under right hands and people of the planet are safe from any and all threats. And this all sense of compassion and responsibility started when he saw yensen die for him , and even after sacrificing himself, yensen's final words were, live.
Also I deeply agree that Tony became more mature when Peter came into picture, but it's not that Peter was a turning point, he started taking responsibilities, but was not that serious about it, but when he saw himself in Peter he realised that he doesn't want Peter to become a version of himself, He wanted Peter to be better. That's what brought our the best and most responsible and most serious version of The Tony Stark.
@@luciferosborn3319 Are you related to Peter's best didn't Harry Osborn ?
@@jaison8263 I am harry, just using this alibi for social media😉
You are not wrong but a character arc and its development takes a few turning points. In my opinion Yinsen's death was the first point it made him put his heart in Iron man. Second one was pepper, It worked more as a personal regiment so...👀and last but not the least was peter. Well maybe there was Morgan too but we haven't seen much of a post Morgan tony so...👀
@@luciferosborn3319 yup idk if you got that from when Peter says he wants to be like Tony and Tony saying and I wanted you to be better and God I sound like my father. A bunch of people aren't really hip on the whole Tony and Peter relationship. Now that No Way Home has been released and we're going to get Peter becoming his own man with everyone forgetting his identity we've got the best of both now.
Well made and well spoken.
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@@TheCanadianLad No Thank You 4 making These Awsome Videos!
The amount of detail in these movies makes me think that these characters are actually real and they live among us.
That’s how amazing marvel really is.
Sometimes I imagine Iron Man flying over my house 😂
@@valeaves lmao
@@valeaves 😁😂😻
Iron Man and Spider-man always will be my two most favourite Marvel heroes.
Same😭
And also, Happy tells Peter that "I don't think he would've done what he did, if he didn't know you were gonna be here" or something like that.
People say that Steve Rogers be a better mentor to Peter Parker. But deep down Tony was the better mentor in a much deeper level.
Tony had his wealth and intelligence on tech, that was his Powers which flood his ego, soon to realize the mistakes he has made when he realize the terrorist are using his weapons.
We know the story behind Spider-Man, even to the greater extent the original 616 Peter Parker, he was about to become a TV Sensation and his ego got the better of him. Led to the death of Uncle Ben.
Without a doubt Tony saw a lot of himself in Peter, and Peter is growing up in a world full of Super Powered Freaks at a young age. Tony knew Peter will need to learn more.
I Just have a good smile throughout this vedio. It just touched me...
*video
@@omvardhanmishra9787 Yep..
@@omvardhanmishra9787 no it's vedio , it's his choice,what u gonna do huh
@@seven4280 No spelling IS spelling
Video**
9:07 lmao the cloak of levitation's confused
Kristine Mae no he’s mocking tony
no cloak "attached" himself to the strongest individial who could save his master and at that time Stark is strongest(while not magicly)
To be honest, if Pepper had died in Iron Man 3, Tony would have died minutes later xD
After all, she's the one who took down the Mandarin
One happy couple, complaining about giant bunnies in Heaven
7:11 not just that but also he got the idea of the mobius strip time travel.As you can see in the photo,Peter was holding the certificate upside down which gave him the idea of inverting the mobius strip for time travel.
Yeah I didn't realize it first but later I saw it on RUclips.
Eow
Good point. Lots missed that easter egg.
I think Tony also changed a lot when he was trapped on the ship with Peter in Infinity War... Maybe it was like being on a spiritual journey with the better part of his consciousness.
@The Canadian Lad... If you watched the "Agent Carter" TV series, you would have noticed that Tony Stark's story Arc mirrors his father's (Howard Stark).
Watch "Captain America - the first Avenger", "Agent Carter", "Iron-Man" (1, 2 & 3), "Ant-Man", "Captain America - Civil War", and "Avengers Endgame" (Howard Stark's story arc). You'll see that history repeats itself through his son (Tony Stark).
this i good
Please explain
I just realized aunt may is Tony’s ‘I win card’
More like a "Trump card
nah more lik a "uno reverse card"
1. This guy is criminaly underrated..
2. I am sure most of the things our Canadian lad says are just great coincidences and MCU never didn't even think about it.
3. Much support 😉
I love how he's just like, "Peter's just like Tony but just younger and poorer," and the first thing that comes to my mind is:
Tony: STONKS
Peter: NOT STONKS
What is wrong with me?
This is a fantastic point and a fantastic video. The fact that the narrator sounds a lot like Yinsin from Iron Man 1 makes it so much better!
What Tony see's in Peter is his past self. The only difference is that Tony grew up with his parents while Peter grew up with his Aunt. He doesn't want Peter to experience what he did growing up that's why he made his best to be Peter's not just a friend, but also a father figure.
9:52 The proud smile on Tony's face explains everything
well some times it feels that RDJ is Tony Stark from another dimension. The attitude, way of talking and yeah money as well.
Your channel deserve better...love your all post..
At 3:43, that wasn't a sigh of relief, it was a sigh of brokenness, despair and defeat. Please watch Tony's face. His face and eyes say it all.
One thing we hard to do that Tony did : Learn from our mistakes
I'm so touched.. I miss Stark.. I hope we still have him, Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, still ...
btw the picture also gave tony the idea for the time machine
motivation AND inspiration!!
Wow ! This Video bought both, a Smile on my lips and tears in my Eyes. A Beautiful relationship.
THIS IS MY FAVOURITE AS FAR AS I WATCHED ALL YOUR VIDEOS MARATHON. 😭💖
LOVE this. That father/son, mentor/apprentice relationship was huge in creating the epic nature of the infinity war story. Epic is the only word to describe the last 10 years (just thinking about that is awesome) so incredible. Thanks to this channel for highlighting the masterful writing, OCD attention to detail and powerful acting talent in every film. Stan Lee died a happy man I’m sure. Excelsior!
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Love your content man.
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Excellent vid!
Tony stark does nice acting of rdj
Amazing job explaining this! Great video!!!
"How spiderman changed iron man in the MCU forever"
*iron man being dead forever*
F*** u
Actually the first thing Tony saif to Steve after all those years was "I couldn't stop him"
Exactly.
That cape has a personality. It just doesn't talk, but it shows clear signs of frustration when Peter starts talking and even that "What did you just say" attitude when Peter says it's Tony's fault for him being in Space
I don't know why but when I was watching this my eyes had "allergies"
Oh dear😭
In my case, someone suddenly started cutting onions...
Same here... 😭
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That’s an interesting nuance. I agree with the analysis.
Thanks for spotting and sharing.
Nice video, great insight.
the saddest thing is after he snapped to bring back Peter, peter wont get to be with him again
NGL, that "I lost the kid" poster made me cry.
Yes... sigh of RELIEF "I lost the kid."
Feels good revisiting these classic moments
God damn...
That in some kind of way broke my heart even more 😥
100% agree. a well done development of personality, from "...if my math is right, and always ...." (Iron Man 1, when Tony explain Yinsen) to "I was wrong" (Spider-Man: Homecoming).
Good vid mate.
Great vid you gave me a lot more knowledge about tony stark
this is such a good vid mate
My fav. Father son duo 🤗🤗💞💞💞
Nice video ever
So Peter Parker is the next Tony stark in MCU. Well planned marvel and well explained lad. 👍👌
8:16 Can we also mention how Peter first introduction in his suit mimics a signature Iron Man pose
I keep hearing Tony Sturk
Anyway Nice Vid Man
Every time i see tony's eyes when he seen spider man again it feels likes tony's really old man with IRONMAN suit..it feels sad for real..
😭🥺🤧♥️✨ this is Soo beautiful
You forgot to mention Agent Colson . He mentions him especially in Avengers
IronDad and SpiderSon!
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The best part of mcu is their character development
Jus had a chance to see avengers endgame again at last when peter return after five years the calmness on tony's face was worth to watch all 22 movies
I got the moment in Avengers: Endgame, exactly why Tony Stark saw himself in Peter Parker. After taking the gauntlet from Black Panther, SpiderMan never loses track of the gauntlet until Captain Marvel took charge though he was terribly injured by rain fire. He never left his responsibilities though he was in life risk, what Tony Stark usually does! That was one of the iconic moment
When the"TONY Learns from his mistakes"🔥
-Allen Tsai
Beautifully explained, I agree wholeheartedly. 🎯💯
"Mr Stark I don't feel so good"
I wanted to be like you
And i wanted you to be better
This tells everything
It’s more like “I don’t want you to be like me, I want you to be better than me”
I’m subscribing to Disney Plus again. You made me want to do an MCU Marathon again 😁
*There is only one thing that raises questions.*
Tony Stark says to Peter Parker at the very first meeting in #CivilWar, when Peter Parker asks Tony *if this is paid well,* Tony answers him with:
*"Of course it will be paid well"*
Peter Parker/ Spiderman had done his mission in #CivilWar and *should have received a fee.*
And don't forget that Tony has been a Multi-Billionaire since day one.
*I don't think he rewarded him with just 100,000$, but at least a Million Dollar, where did they go in Spiderman Home Coming, and Far From Home?*
Tony was just agreeing that it involved money because of the stark internship as shown in civil war scene where tony gives students some money for projects. He was just improvising😂. Anyways spiderman doesn't do good work for money.
The contract that tony made with the government also protects Peter parker
And yes tony probably left a little bank account to peter as a gift with some millions in it
Remember that peter technically is still a teenager
Its not until the phase 5 that
Spiderman character will be grown
And he will lead the young avengers team
This made me love them more
another quality video. thank you.
I think you overstate the similarity in personality. Peter is a smart ass, Tony is an asshole. What really freaks Tony out is he looks at Peter and sees all the brilliance and potential that he had at that age, but in a much much better person. Tony has one true berserk button in the entire MCU. When you hurt someone that he thinks is a better person than himself. Yinsen, Coulson, that lady's son who died in Sokovia at the start of Civil War, and Peter.
Nice video bro 😊
"whats up ebibabi" is the one iconic quotes ever lived
I even wanted to add the fact that Peter Parker was younger than Yinsen so he was attatched to him moreover. Also Yinsen and Tony didn't talk this much and spent that much time toghether but we could say that Tony and Yinsen were good friends.
Another Great Video....Great Way To Combine The Tony Strark & Peter Parker To Explained Your Thought Fully !
Whenever I see a reference of Iron Man, a very famous dialogue comes to mind i.e, When I first heard "I'm Iron Man."
Peter will never know that he was the reason why Tony helped bring everyone back.
wow nice video thanks for the content i really enjoyed it😊😊
By the way this all I can say about this video ❤❤❤❤❤
Absolutely incredible how you pick up on these.
Yeah this is the real reason for peter being character growth for mainly improvement for mature tony stark.
The only thing missing from this is the scene in Far from home where Peter is talking to Happy about Tony. Its unfortunate that the video was made before its' release.
I just thought that Peter was Tony's way of dealing with his baggage from losing his parents as a teenager
Tony actually risked his life in Avengers the first movie long before he met peter...
It was in a desperate situation tho
There was not really a choice
They were Trying to nuke New York
If that Missile had drop
New york would have been erase
Massive respect
Peter is 100% Tony’s new child
Whoever comes... nobody can take the place of Ironman ❤️❤️❤️
he treats Peter like the son he never had....his daughter reference Peter as his big brother that her father keeps talking about..
Another Cool Vid 👍👍