Sooooo, here's my inputs hehehe: - Tahiti Test, or tahiti_test6: seems you didn't notice it's Smokey Mountain North :p - Tahiti Test Short: Welcome to the earliest sample of Smokey Mountain South, later known as Swiss Alps~ - No Name Dirt Course 2: Sike! That's Smokey Mountain South again, it's almost the final layout too, just missing scenery and different colored dirt haha The final filename for it was just shortened to nn_dirt_2 :p There are a few more tracks that i find interesting in the demos that you haven't shown, but no worries, they'll get shown someday i'm sure :)
I'm pretty sure, that Laguna 2 is another 2000 version of the track, here are some clues: - Laguna Seca is one of the first three tracks, that appeared in numerous GT2000 demo's and videos, with others being Special Stage Route 5 and Seattle Circuit. - Laguna 2 has the same issue with asphalt textures, that Seattle 2000 and SSR 2000, and I think, it is an issue with PBR lighting or sort of it implementation, which GT2 engine wasn't really familiar with. - Just like other 2000's version, it lacks some of tracks scenery, which could be some kind of optimization thing, so GT2 could work okay, if not properly with these version. Otherwise, thanks for the vid!
I KNEW I SAW SOMEONE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT MONACO PLANNING ON BEING IN GT2 It was driving me crazy, because I saw it in a very old video somewhere and I've been looking for it again for years.
I think I recall Roflwaffle explain the Monte Carlo chicane change being based on the layout of 1972 where the chicane was moved further down from its usual position
Yeah, it was a one-year-only layout implemented while the area around the swimming pool was being rebuilt and expanded. Pit lane was on the quayside between the normal chicane location and the new one.
The cut Reverse tracks were likely meant for Event Synthesizer and One Make Races. Both of them use variants of tracks we almost never see in the base events (or ONLY in those modes like Rome Night)
There's the infamous Plam Strip, which is actually a misspelling of an early name for Apricot Hill, Plum Strip. Plum Strip is mentioned in the PAL version in the description of a specific license test set in Apricot Hill, but it's only mentioned in select languages and not in English. There's also Apricot Hill being missing from the Event Synthesizer. While the reversed variant can appear in the event, the regular version doesn't due to a fault in the event's internal Track List, which misspells the internal name of Apricot Hill. Because the names don't match, the game proceeds to perform a failsafe by loading the first track in the game's internal track list, which is the 2P version of Autumn Ring.
I remember that when you had the channel subscription, there was a perk of having the beta demos and some cheat codes for it i think, but since that is gone, where you do you stock the stuff you did as a perk for this channel?
(Laguna 2) Is that GT2 logos on the background (at 31:08 and 31:26) in the approved laguna seca version? I dont remember them. Maybe they dont liked that background choice
Seems interesting. Some could of been a part of the original events along with the drag option to properly 100% the game. And it was interesting to see the license tracks to have full versions since it does remind some players the struggles of getting gold prizes for a free car in each class.
@@MattJ155 The main issue is severe lack of bass. The mic sounds like pure treble if that makes sense, which can be grating to the ears of someone who is wearing headphones after awhile
@@MattJ155 your mic reminds me of the kind we had back in the mid 2000s for me thats a good thing. im so nostalgic for it. and your channel is about retro gaming so it works!
If Seattle does come back, it's not gonna be the same. The chicane in between the two stadiums is not going to exist due to more businesses in that parking lot area and the final corners don't exist due to the Alaskan way Viaduct(the bridge over last and 2nd corners) not existing anymore
Indi would have been an amazing race course to add even adding a city course based off Indi time and scenery and it would beat SSR5 by a long shot as a favorite
In every video there is this one point that I hate so much. It's when the video ends. 😢 Thanks for another great video. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Granturismo 2 the gift that keeps on giving...🎉🎉
Sooooo, here's my inputs hehehe:
- Tahiti Test, or tahiti_test6: seems you didn't notice it's Smokey Mountain North :p
- Tahiti Test Short: Welcome to the earliest sample of Smokey Mountain South, later known as Swiss Alps~
- No Name Dirt Course 2: Sike! That's Smokey Mountain South again, it's almost the final layout too, just missing scenery and different colored dirt haha
The final filename for it was just shortened to nn_dirt_2 :p
There are a few more tracks that i find interesting in the demos that you haven't shown, but no worries, they'll get shown someday i'm sure :)
Dirt Test 2 kind of feels like it was trying to go for a rural Washington/Oregon vibe for their respective rally events IRL
And License Twst 2 looks like they forgot to scale it up with the other tracks
Does rural Washington/Oregon also have lots of invisible walls?
@@rodsk8dude731 Invisible walls are more of a feature in Idaho
I'm pretty sure, that Laguna 2 is another 2000 version of the track, here are some clues:
- Laguna Seca is one of the first three tracks, that appeared in numerous GT2000 demo's and videos, with others being Special Stage Route 5 and Seattle Circuit.
- Laguna 2 has the same issue with asphalt textures, that Seattle 2000 and SSR 2000, and I think, it is an issue with PBR lighting or sort of it implementation, which GT2 engine wasn't really familiar with.
- Just like other 2000's version, it lacks some of tracks scenery, which could be some kind of optimization thing, so GT2 could work okay, if not properly with these version.
Otherwise, thanks for the vid!
Wish Gran Turismo 2000 tracks also made into GT2 track list.
I KNEW I SAW SOMEONE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT MONACO PLANNING ON BEING IN GT2
It was driving me crazy, because I saw it in a very old video somewhere and I've been looking for it again for years.
Would it be possible for the developers of the A-Spec expansion to include these tracks in the final version of the mod?
As of now, no.
Its impossible
I think I recall Roflwaffle explain the Monte Carlo chicane change being based on the layout of 1972 where the chicane was moved further down from its usual position
Yeah, it was a one-year-only layout implemented while the area around the swimming pool was being rebuilt and expanded. Pit lane was on the quayside between the normal chicane location and the new one.
Amazing to see how much time and effort went into mastering these tracks.
It's kinda crazy to see how this ps one game had a ton of tracks, yet it could've gotten a lot more. It would have been massive!
I wish there was a mod that made those tracks usable in the game, It would be so cool!
The cut Reverse tracks were likely meant for Event Synthesizer and One Make Races. Both of them use variants of tracks we almost never see in the base events (or ONLY in those modes like Rome Night)
You, being sponsored by Paramount!? Damn, you actually did go FAR.
I think No-Name Dirt Course 2 is an early version of Smokey Mountain South/Swiss Alps.
Great content as always Matt! Mic levels could use a check, it might be my end but it sounds very thin and tinny.
There's the infamous Plam Strip, which is actually a misspelling of an early name for Apricot Hill, Plum Strip. Plum Strip is mentioned in the PAL version in the description of a specific license test set in Apricot Hill, but it's only mentioned in select languages and not in English.
There's also Apricot Hill being missing from the Event Synthesizer. While the reversed variant can appear in the event, the regular version doesn't due to a fault in the event's internal Track List, which misspells the internal name of Apricot Hill. Because the names don't match, the game proceeds to perform a failsafe by loading the first track in the game's internal track list, which is the 2P version of Autumn Ring.
I remember that when you had the channel subscription, there was a perk of having the beta demos and some cheat codes for it i think, but since that is gone, where you do you stock the stuff you did as a perk for this channel?
(Laguna 2) Is that GT2 logos on the background (at 31:08 and 31:26) in the approved laguna seca version? I dont remember them. Maybe they dont liked that background choice
Seems interesting. Some could of been a part of the original events along with the drag option to properly 100% the game. And it was interesting to see the license tracks to have full versions since it does remind some players the struggles of getting gold prizes for a free car in each class.
Sounds like you need to get a new mic, friend. But overall, great video.
Thanks Mace! How does the audio sound for you? It sounds fine to me, so I'm curious about how it is for everyone else.
@@MattJ155 The main issue is severe lack of bass. The mic sounds like pure treble if that makes sense, which can be grating to the ears of someone who is wearing headphones after awhile
@@MattJ155 I did not notice anything about the sound quality, it sounds good to me
@@MattJ155 your mic reminds me of the kind we had back in the mid 2000s
for me thats a good thing. im so nostalgic for it. and your channel is about retro gaming so it works!
@@OfficialMidnightRubynot everyone wears earphone to watch RUclips
Didn't Seattle 2000 have those issues because it was literally in a different format or something? Because it was already meant for the new console.
There are about 34 cut tracks on Gran Turismo 2 i belive.
License test 2 is the short version of Zandvoort
Lets hope for seatlle to make a comeback.
If Seattle does come back, it's not gonna be the same. The chicane in between the two stadiums is not going to exist due to more businesses in that parking lot area and the final corners don't exist due to the Alaskan way Viaduct(the bridge over last and 2nd corners) not existing anymore
Indi would have been an amazing race course to add even adding a city course based off Indi time and scenery and it would beat SSR5 by a long shot as a favorite
Any and all reverse tracks can go straight to hell. And they were gonna do Laguna reverse!?!?
i'd like to see the part of Special Stage Route X that been canceled. i wish someone drive on it like this. 🤔
Matt continues dropping bangers!🗣
Test course reverse is an early interpretation of Special Stage Route X
I wish gt2 kept that turbo gauge with the numbers
Seattle circuit needs to return
Isn't a reverse oval just another oval? :D
after this, 1 lap of every cut car on GT2
4:00 it strangely feels like laguna seca tho
Great video Matt! Interesting to see the stages of development. Slowed down GT music soothes the soul.
3:47 we also see the Michelin man billboard which was replaced in the final game
3:48 Valvoline and Goodyear sign were replaced and Trampio been cut from the final game
If it's about cut tracks then... Tahiti Test has the same track path as Smokey Mountain North
Perhaps the slidey version of Special Stage Route 5 is a trial for the wet version we got in GT3?
In every video there is this one point that I hate so much. It's when the video ends. 😢
Thanks for another great video. I'm looking forward to the next one.
1999: the year I turned nine years old.
Same, hope you’ve done well since 👍🏻
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I was here and I was first. Fantastic new vid Matt