INVINCIBLE Goes Back In TIME To Stop OMNI MAN | Invincible Vs Omni Man | Invincible Season 2
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That alien thing is definitely a dick for not just returning Mark to the exact time it took him.
Well it was Mark’s fault for choosing the alternate timeline over the existence of his own daughter and family in the original timeline. Maybe that’s its way of punishing Mark when he showed it how selfish he was.
@@joshualawrence5253i think the main problem is the costant doubt if that timeline is real or not, even because EVERYTHING going strangely how Mark wanted
sure, you know about future and can prevent it, but once you did this 1-2 times for major events, you changed the timeline in a total different way you can't even predict,
plus, in history, terrible events were necessary for bring something good from it
(for Example after WW2 , nations founded ONU for prevent conflitcs, more or less )
Let's hope they skip this plot please
@@joshualawrence5253 selfish? he didn't ask to go to a different timeline, he already has his own life
@@marcerickson7075 They can't. It's essential to the plot and its great storytelling.
Mark:"gets trapped somewere for months or years but always come back
Evryone:"He must be dead"
You'd think after the first 2 times, they would hold off on the death certificate.
Granted this was half a decade
Mark entered new game plus
speedran the main story
Speed ran season 1 and would had a much happier and more generic hero story for the following seasons
This arc delivered a key to Robot's mental state. He was self-aware enough to realize that he's a total a-hole for not knowing how to be a friend.
Cripple Robot did nothing wrong
Clone Robot was a traitor
Crip bot also stole dna of one of his friends for his body vessel
@@whichDude crip robot would definitely be an a hole after 1000 years
why mark did not tell omni man that he was a direct descendant of Lord Argall ? he could have gotten rid of the viltrumite problem all together and made them peaceful
He probably does later on in that timeline, but Mark had a lot to explain.
7:50 If Nolan gets arrested, does that mean the meme "Think Mark, think!" won't happen in the future show?
???
Is this... Ironic?
If I respond assuming it's unironic:
That scene already happened in the show.
In the comics it's "Think, Mark, think!"
In the show it's "why did you make me do this??? You're fighting so you can watch everyone you love die! THINK, Mark!! You'll outlast every fragile insignificant being on this planet..." and the quote continues. Anyways, it's a single "think." In the show compared to the comics.
Actually it's just THINK MARK 👉😠👈
You know he only say "think, mark" not "think mark think"
ALRIGHT WE GET IT
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Bro got free restart, but said nah.
It wasn't free. The price for the new timeline was his daughter, marriage and most likely brother. Things that Mark was unwilling to sacrifice.
Didn't you see justice league flashpoint
@@kilerog Not to mention all the other lives and events that would be erased or changed across the whole universe and for the rest of time. The moral choice there I believe is to go back. No matter how many lives he could save in the new timeline he would never come close to the amount of life erased or changed from the original.
@gecho8848 Well, no. If he didn't go back he would save all people omniman killed, could do the same of better decisions to save people from main plot and his brother dies either way. He could still get along with eve. The one thing he would definitely lose is her daughter but who cares and it's one life of 4 year old vs thousands of lives taken from omniman
@@eliteknight2137 I think you missed the point. Yes he could have saved a lot of people by stopping omni man. Lets say he could have saved millions. That amount of people is still nothing in comparison to the effects of changing those events for the rest of time. To the point where a near infinite amount of lives will have been erased or significantly changed because of Marks choice.
You could never save enough people to justify the lose of all those people gone because of changing time. The only way a character could justify making that choice for all life in the universe is if they are an egomaniac villain who believes that their brand of tyranny is better than the alternative. And being okay with taking away agency from all life in existence is pretty clearly morally corrupt.
And regardless of all that, Marks ability to use his pre-existing knowledge from the other timeline would only go as far as stopping omni man. After that the timeline will have changed significantly enough to basically make all his predictions of the new timeline from that point on irrelevant.
Hope they actually do something in the show with this new timeline that he left, like maybe they can have the white n blue alien spirit be a redeemed Angstrum Levy believing in our Invincible and saving the past, then maybe an Avengers Endgame portal scene happens to where everyone Mark helped in the new timeline comes to help out Mark and the rest of the team fight in the Final War against Thragg and then Robot.
Holy cow your idea is worth more than all the diamonds in the universe put together and believe this notion should heavily be supported and maybe you can post it on Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, make a RUclips shorts video on it, put it on Instagram, Twitch if you have an account there or Google+ so more and more of your work is noticed.
And all of these efforts likely can pay off as the writers of the show can see your brilliant work and likely put it on there.
Thank you very much for posting this gem and I'm dissatisfied that this doesn't have enough attention as it should deserve in the sense it should have at least 100k likes but then again we shouldn't give up hope that it's going to get some traction in the future and let's be optimistic it's soon as possible.
The whole reboot arc is definitely my least favorite part of the comics, the whole thing just felt like an excuse so that Thraggs army could gain strength and Terra could grow up a bit. Not to mention a few issues later almost no one ever brings it up again. I wouldnt mind if the show just skips over this part altogether or rewrite it.
Even listening to this video it sounds so forced and lame.
Also this is proof that omni man would have lost if he didn't catch them off guard
If mark just told his dad that they’re the heir of argal then if he was there or not they’ll be fine
There was a part where they were getting close to a city and mark was like NOPE
Hate to say it but this was clearly contrived just to age up his daughter
AND it made him such an asshole. I guess his actions are understandable here, he went through a lot of trauma, he just wanted to be happy and have something for once, but holy fucking shit. He sacrificed thousands of people for this choice.
@@nonamesorry7135 those lifes were already lost he didn t sacrificed nothing tho
@@nonamesorry7135 those people were already dead, and its obvious its 2 different timelines/universes so they would still be dead in his og
At that moment I just think that the author no longer knew how to make a good timeskip for Thragg to regain his strength and create thousands of Viltrumite half-breeds and the only way he found to go directly to the age where children become adults is this one
@@Clashy69no this timeline would have replaced the original
2:35 mark realsies he is the founding titan LOOLLL
It is more so that Mark had accepted the original reality and found happiness within it
So even the choice of fixing all the bad things did not bring him joy because what actually brought him joy would not exist aswell
I dont have words to describe the philosophy thats being explored here (cuz i suck at english) but its actually deep if u think about it
I think this moral dilemma is actually pretty simple. If Mark chose the new timeline he would be taking countless lives into his own hands and making the choice for them. In turn he may save thousands or even millions, but the amount of lives erased or significantly changed across the whole galaxy/universe for all of time would always outweigh those he saved. So not only could he never save enough people to make up for the possibly infinite lives he effectively would choose to erase by going with the new timeline. He would also suffer great personal lose.
Seems like a no brainer to me. I would much prefer this story be told as Mark having to convince the entity that by choosing the new timeline more would be lost than gained. And all that loss would be his and the entities responsibility. Culminating in the entity finally realizing it's absolutionist folly and arrogance, but then the entity having to tell mark that he will return him to his original time but that weeks or even months may have passed. Mark would be angered at this of course but has no choice. Only when he finally returns to Eve would he find that not just weeks or months had passed but 2 whole years. (I think 5 years is too much)
You are assuming that what he does doesn't end up with lives being replaced.
Sure you are right millions even billions could never be born because of his shenanigans, but at the same time also millions and billions will be born to replace those that weren't.
Mark arguments shows this, eventually he would probably have a child but it would not be Terra because the line of events that ended with Terra never happened, a different one happened so while a child is born, it isn't Terra.
Same with the millions that are erased, eventually someone will be born in the place of an erased life, it will be someone but not the same person as the erased one, no because everythings changed, someone that had a daughter now may end up with a son, or never meeting a partner to settle with or a different one. Infinite possible outcomes assuming the lives are erased and not "replaced" is just ignoring the reality of things.
Unless Mark decisions end up with the whole universe turning sterile but I REALLY doubt it.
@manatipowa I would argue that while Mark choosing to stay in the alternate timeline can save countless lives andto stay in the alternate timeline can save countless lives and have some merit as a valid timeline where something could be gained by it overall I see Mark choosing the original timeline can be just as valid not only as it fulfills Marks desire to be with his original kid and wife but also because he will also have millions as well by choosing the original timeline.
Both timelines have validity as the tentacle monster has some good arguments for Mark staying in the alternate timeline but also Mark has good arguments choosing to stay in the prior setting and ultimately if the creature wanted to restore balance to the universe why not have the Mauler Twins create a clone of Mark to send that reality while Mark gets to stay in the original and I'm not so sure about the whole restoring balance to the universe thing as if the creature is powerful enough to give Mark the choice to restore balance why it would allow for the problem with the universe to happen in the first place and reality ( in this context is another way of saying the invincible universe) is decent the way it is despite it's imperfections and so this cosmic imbalance can arising within would be unlikely as a. invincible reality has to create something stronger outside of it for it to destroy itself and b. The cosmic imbalance will correct itself as if it destroys reality than it can't exist as well so therefore only reality can exist and not the cosmic imbalance and lastly I would argue the original timeline could have even more benefits for Mark to stay in not only because it will benefit his personal desires but also because the original timeline can still exist if millions are lost from the alternate timeline and it's not impossible for Mark to rebuild millions more and even he can't match the millions more he could have saved by staying in the alternate timeline he did the best he could with the circumstances he was dealt with and wasn't bad for choosing his wife and kid as he shouldn't have to carry the weight of the alternate timeline to begin with even if he is a good man because while it would be good for others it won't necessarily be good for himself so being good to himself is just as valid as being good to others.
By staying with the original timeline they could be downsides but ultimately Mark can bear that burden and if there is a possibility to make sure in the original timeline to save millions I'm sure Mark will try his best to find it and yes you may say it still won't bring the millions dead back from the alternate reality and yes that is true that may be a negative but ultimately Mark has made his choice to choose the original timeline that may come with some consequences but on the plus side he gets to see his wife and kid again and if the chance arises to save millions he would take it and to make his personal choice for staying in the original reality if not positive for others then for himself but will try to compensate for the good of others while cherishing his needs as well and ultimately he can maximize the potential good things that can result by staying with the original timeline and try his best to make a case for it.
@@GravityK-b I think I got most of what you are saying but a lot of what you typed is hard to grasp since you don't use much punctuation and your a little overly wordy. Not trying to be mean or anything I just genuinely struggled to understand a lot of it. Not saying you need to be perfect, but if you used punctuation better and were a little more succinct it would help you get your point across I think. Either way thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
@gecho8848 Thanks for the kind feedback and yes I will probably use grammarly or something like that to correct my grammar and I tend to be overly wordy because I just like to express many of my thoughts very often and sometimes I start a text with the mind for it to be short and then a interesting thought pops up and then another comes up and I have the urge to write all of these down on the internet and when you know it I end up writing the declaration of independence.
Thanks for explaining this lol
6:55 “While getting his ass kicked by his father, Invincible leads Nolan to Utah”
😂😂😂 The way the narrator says this is hilarious!
And then the time-traveling tentacle monster was never elaborated on further. There's a difference between leaving things open to interpretation and just writing in a time skip. Hell the same story's accomplished by saying Mark fell in a time hole and missed five years, which frankly the whole "Mark gets stranded in a time altering dimension" shtick was really getting old, glad this was at least the last time they did it.
I agree I felt like the writers just wanted Mark to suffer so they needlessly introduced the tentacle monster to shame him for putting his wife and kid first through a cheap time travel plot which could have been done so much better like instead of Mark out of nowhere leaving the alternate timeline he has some time to reflect on it and before the tentacle monster shames him for being selfish sees his side for choosing the original shows his reasons and maybe they both can can compromise where he can have what he wants all the whole restoring balance to the universe as it's a difficult situation for both of them and both of them see flashes of all positive and negative outcomes of both the alternative and original timeline and see why it's not impossible for Mark decision to see his wife and kid to be wrong as it might not exactly destroy balance to the universe.
Feel like this would make for a cool deep dream sequence but nothing more.
I still find it hilarious that at THIS point in well, "time" he thinks he can convince Nolan to not conquer the planet. I feel like Mark should have known of COURSE he'd double down
“it was just a dream”
Bro you're doing Gods work you deserve more subscribers
Bro calm down, it’s a recap of a picture book. Actin like you can’t look at pictures or sumn
These comics are available for free on yt 😂
This whole arc bugs the hell outa me cause while you can understand WHY Mark wants to return to his original timeline, it doesn't make him any less of a selfish dickhead.
Coudnt agree more, it pisses me off so much, hopefully in the show it will be different
He didnt want to stick on the past. He already got it in the present..@@beaversigma
I disagree. it's a chance to show him not as a perfect messiah figure, but as a human person that doesn't want to ruin his entire life. i thought it was a cool idea
@@lucaspsm125 I'd argue that when that many lives are on the line, what YOU want as an individual doesn't matter. And for someone like Mark who's supposed to be a super hero, he should be expected to act like a sort of "messiah figure" as you put it. If you can't make the right descision in crucial moments like that, you shouldn't be in the position to make them at all.
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsc1447bro what part of these comics make you think that these characters are supposed to praised as flawless, they arent marvel comics. By your logic you wouldve been a viltrumite supporter lol
No we see why he needed the element of surprise.
I feel like this took from mark more they lowkey should have mark only lose one year instead of 5
Agreed, I feel like maybe 2 years would be enough to shock and effect things without it being too much.
See the thing is, if this was to happen; there would be no Oliver. No Android Rick. No Tera. Ect ect.
Not to mention; without the changes: many more could’ve died, being the many that would’ve not been found thanks to Mark.
Exactly, and the exponential amounts more lives that would continue to be changed or erased as time went on forever. All to save some thousands of people in the short term. Honestly the entity thing was pretty dumb and if Mark really questioned it it's argument would have fallen apart. There really was no other choice.
Alien: You can save all those innocent lives
Mark: That sounds like a skill issue my daughter is more important.
Honestly, that's such a real human thing to do all jokes aside
There's also a legitimate argument to be made in favor of his choice. For instance, regardless of some sort of universal balance, the events of his original timeline happened naturally, and although the changes he made in the new timeline seemed to be for the better in the short term, the long term consequences of this could potentially be catastrophic. It's not a new concept, and there's even been sci-fi type stories before covering events such as going back in time to kill Hitler before he took power, only for the person who takes power instead to end up being much worse.
Additionally, the choice he was being offered was to kill one timeline in favor of another. This ends up happening regardless of his choice. With the two options being effectively the same in this regard, his choice to return to his original timeline, faults and all, can be seen as the ultimately more selfless and mature decision. He's not just saving his daughter at the expense of thousands, as many many other individuals across history also wouldn't have been born if not for the tragedies that preceded them. To choose the new timeline just because the events seem happier in the short term would be very short sighted and irresponsible towards the entire timeline he hails from, and could be seen as pursuing a selfish outcome.
It was the right choice.
This was basically One More Day if it was done right.
Entity: what you mean you won't stay in the past where i gave you no option
one thing invincible and spider-man have in common, the writers love fucking them over
Invincible's retort to One More Day. Instead of choosing to sacrifice his marriage and child, the hero instead chooses to retain those things regardless of the cost of a "better" timeline.
whats the background music called?
mark couldve just told eve about the affair between kate and rex
How does Cecil already have ReAnimen? Sinclair hasn't been caught yet, so he's not making them yet. The government isn't making them otherwise they never would have bothered using Sinclair.
He caught Sinclair early, before the arrest.
@@SuperMongooser Do they explain it, or is it just assumed since Cecil has the ReAnimen? I thought only difference was Mark knowing future events.
@@whichDude 5:02
If they hade this on the show
Leave it a small cliffhanger on the show and bring it back on a telltale video game of Invincible where it left off
You play as Mark/Invincible make choices and see your story goes in the game
In the end Mark want go back to the future
And the show come back yet you decide how his story goes in the game
But the show is on the five year gap timeline
So yeah that be awesome
Lmao my guy has a broad imagination
Oh Lord I didn’t even know about this
they definitely went to far with those comics😭
WE WILL NEVER HEAR THIS IN GAME EVER AGAIN, WE WIPED THEM OUT
Honestly if Mark future was actually.what a dream I could see him doing all of this.
I need some tips in barring chords its kinda hard for me.
I hope they scrap this arc in the show.
No
They probably will this arc is trash. How the fuck did they even have Omni man contained, when they couldn’t contain conquest lmao
@@anobody8749he was choosing to be contained
I haven't read the comic. But the few things I know, I keep wondering in what aspect this will contribute to the main plotline, and to my knowledge it seems to be nothing other than, once again, make Mark absent from other loved one's lifes, which seems to be a recurrent theme and kind of wished it doesn't.
They just wanted to do a time skip for thraggs army but did it in a very contrived way also sprinkled in some drama regarding eve/marks daughter to
Here me out why not tell eve that you have a kod together
Rex probably never became an asshole or caught being one and it'll be unethical to take advantage of her by saying that you had a kid together
It wouldn't be her daughter
I wish i could go back in time. It would be hell but at least i could never make mistakes
i know this wont happen for another couple of seasons but i think this plot is neat as hell and i hope to see it done in the show eventually
The good timeline
That's the kind of treatment Spiderman gets😂 dono option me kuch bhi accha ni mila bhai ko
this was no doubt the most fucked up thing the comic had done and still makes me tear up because I'm annoyed at how fucking cruel of a story line it is
Mark tearing up when seeing Terra, fiction or not no dad should ever have to feel that
We're going back in time
To the first ever thanksgiving
To take Turkeys
*Off*
The menu
To keep in mind; this mark went back to his body when his powers first appeared, meaning he’s weaker than Omni man. However I’m of the opinion that if he dropped his subconscious restraints he should be capable of doing decent damage.
Mark could have just worked to reveal the affair anyhow. My gosh he is an idiot on top of being an asshole. If this arc happens in the cartoon that will be where I quit.
If you are in the band of people saying Mark should've stayed in the new timeline, consider this.
In the long run, you are absolutely wrong. Marrying and having a relationship with Eve could save millions of lives more by her becoming the wife of essentially the most powerful being with an impossible amount of support and resources. They are a civilization changing force, just the two of them, Terra goes on to be an ambassador of the Coalition, helping planets change their brutal savage ways, the sacrifice Oliver makes is the deciding factor that brings about Thragg's end. There are so many plot points these characters are necessary to that it brings into question the absolute morality the blue creatures and you spouse.
Also, Invincible never asked or wanted to be in the position of a ruler, or even a hero after becoming a father. This position is thrown on him repeatedly throughout the story and this is the true reason Mark is the main character, a great man that saves the universe, not because he wants to, because if he doesn't, who else will?
This makes the story feel way more real and I truly hope everyone else can see this, its not just that they cant change it because it would alter the trajectory of the story. They SHOULDN'T change it because its the epitome of Mark's journey as his own person.
(reposting because i found so many people sharing this view, wanted to share in more than just a reply)
I fully agree him and eve led the the vilturmites to be a peace keeping force. Without eve in the "new" time line and being weaker because he's physically younger is a huge risk vs conquest and thragg anyways.
@@BC21beatsYou also gotta think of all the miraculous feats that Eve accomplished while a part of the new Viltrum empire, since some talk about the thousands Mark could've saved. She could re-shape societies and possibly made the lives of not just millions but billions better.
Honestly, the blue entities might've been villains trying to stop Mark from making the galaxy better, since he lacked the knowledge of his future, but they, probably didn't.
@@cruel284 yeah exactly it's also a huge gamble fighting the vilturmites anyways since he needed eve to revive him from thragg so both future and present are fucked
Lmao they don’t need to be married for that
I think comparing numbers is missing the point of the choice that Mark made. It wasn't about what was statistically "better," it was about Mark cared about more--saving others or his family. And at the end of the day, even if altering the timeline saved a lot of people, Mark was unwilling to sacrifice his family.
Yeah this was a super weird Arc and I never really knew how I felt about it.
0:01 i feel like nolan is talking
Id probably have turned it down, not because of any contrived reason like wanting to go back to intergalactic war, but because I have no proof that im not just sitting in the real world unconscious and everything happening here is just a dream.
Kinda hope they don’t include this plot in the show, just seems absolutely pointless
didnt like this plot tbh
L
Didn’t ask (plus this plot was mid)
It didn't have any payoff maybe that's why.
I hope they cut it from the show. It's pretty pointless and the time skips causing drama are way too cheap
@@AverageDonaldDuckFan you know despite having no point it does drive some of the plot. Like Oliver's death characterization for the hybrid twins. And most importantly on what mark missed.
Omni man was gonna murder bro fr
7 days ago 😢
Pointless since it’s just the same old thing with Mark being BEATEN UP.
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Time travel is the number one way to ruin a tv series. I liked the flash really good at first but the plot was just so stupid.
Try watching Steins;Gate
@@steveelpro yeah time travel is probably one of the best plotlines when done right however most of the time it actually just ruins the series i think re zero's return by death is another good use of time shenanigans as well
But this didn’t ruin anything😂
This was the beginning of the Invincible downfall for me
I watched this video, much to my much to my
one more day but kinda interesting idk
Unrelated; but why doesn't Space Racer just blow up Viltrum? All it would take is one shot, then boom. 50-70% of Viltrumites gone in an instant.
Hell, if Frieza or any decent Saiyan was there, they would fingerblast the planet to ash. Thragg would be pissed, (if he somehow wasn't on Viltrum) until Frieza evaporates him.
Couldn’t mark have told eve that if he didn’t save the guardians by going back in time that Rex would’ve cheated on her with duplikate?
Worst part of the story wtf made dem think this was smart
W
Reminds me of the last third of Dragon Quest XI... which is not great
Largely disappointed in what could have been a great story in Invincible that instead ended up going nowhere as while this new timeline that this blue creature offered mark showed the better timeline he created was good and all and saved millions ultimately he wasn't selfish to choose the original timeline over this one even if the other one resulted in better results for everyone and potentially for more happiness for Mark, saving millions and correcting balance in the universe as yes he was not in the wrong to do so just to see his wife and original kid as those were in his original timeline and the one he knew best as he had close ties with these people.
Some common objections to this would be.
A. Why would he choose the original timeline when in the new timeline he could just marry Eve again and have a kid but this wouldn't be the same Eve and the kid would be different.
B. His destroying millions of lives and the whole timeline and unsettling the whole balance of things just to see his wife and kid again yes it may seem it's a bad decision but don't forget she's someone he's close with and why put the heavy responsibility of something like this on someone who wants to live a happy life as the argument could also be made he's screwing with his personal happiness just to save this alternate universe it's difficult to say but I'm on the table on this one as selfless altruism for all of existence or putting your personal happiness first even over the whole universe but depends if the stakes of destroying reality are too big maybe he should take the selfless route but if there is an option for him to find personal happiness without the stakes being too severe I would see the case for him taking it so I find validity in both arguments but this is a big debate anyways and hopefully it gets solved in the future.
C. What if did indeed this alternate timeline was actually the original and the creature sent him fives years into the future to so much he screwed the original by choosing back to the original just under different circumstances with huge consequences and I would argue there was no way he could know if the alternate was actually the original and even if he did screw it up I believe it was his choice to make as he already had a life in the original expect with different circumstances besides the original life he had wasn't so bad that the whole universe collapsed and the original one could have been made better and so what he has done can be seen as negative but I don't see as objectively wrong as the original with different circumstances offered better objective happiness him so I guess I see the case for his own well-being even over the whole universe but again I'm on the fence on this one as well as the arguments could go both ways.
Overall I believe there are way too many contradictions and plot holes with this story and I largely understand the arguments for Mark wanting to see his wife and kids and just for the original to be the way it was but I see this story being inspired by the trolley problem and would go back in time to destroy Hitler to save millions or keep keep the things the way they are with both negative and positive consequences so again saving the universe/going back time to create a better timeline or putting personal happiness first/keeping things the way they are or have half putting your happiness first and half saving the universe or finding a way to save the universe and have your personal happiness or go to a different universe altogether to avoid this mess or realize reality is self correcting so it's impossible for negative timeline to destroy it because if reality doesn't exist because of the negative timeline neither will the negative alternate timeline thus reality will always exist and no negative timeline can destroy it and maybe all of this is just something beyond our comprehension in the grand of schemes so nature knows best and let things be the way they are.
To quote the Mauler twin who poisoned King Mauler after he found out he was the original and he was just the clone and being made into a slave and felt inferior so he wanted to even the score said after poisoning King Mauler "Sometimes Things Are The Way They Are For A Good F#cking Reason"
I hope this story isn't adapted into the Invincible Tv show and removed from the Invincible comics universe and instead replaced with a better story.
Love to hear your thoughts on the whole saving the universe or putting your personal happiness first as there cases for both and maybe the debate can be settled some time along the line with answers for both or make a more valid case for personal happiness who knows.
I think this moral dilemma is actually pretty simple. If Mark chose the new timeline he would be taking countless lives into his own hands and making the choice for them. In turn he may save thousands or even millions, but the amount of lives erased or significantly changed across the whole galaxy/universe for all of time would always outweigh those he saved. So not only could he never save enough people to make up for the possibly infinite lives he effectively would choose to erase by going with the new timeline. He would also suffer great personal lose.
Seems like a no brainer to me. I would much prefer this story be told as Mark having to convince the entity that by choosing the new timeline more would be lost than gained. And all that loss would be his and the entities responsibility. Culminating in the entity finally realizing it's absolutionist folly and arrogance, but then the entity having to tell mark that he will return him to his original time but that weeks or even months may have passed. Mark would be angered at this of course but has no choice. Only when he finally returns to Eve would he find that not just weeks or months had passed but 2 whole years. (I think 5 years is too much)
@@gecho8848The creators of invincible should hire you as the new writer as honestly your idea for this story would have been much better than what we originally got especially how the blue creature now realizes why Mark has reasons for choosing to stay in the original timeline with his wife and kid over the original timeline inspite of the consequences as while their are consequences to be had when leaving the alternate timeline there also mental consequences for him as he is leaving his wife and kid behind in the original timeline and I would say to restore balance to the universe have the Mauler Twin make a clone of Invincible one who will stay in alternate timeline to restore balance and the original gets to go back to his original timeline without it being erased if possible there problem solved.
they better change this story in the show , its just so unneeded and irksome.
ahahaha Invincible infinite tsukuyomi arc
Alien was selfish, didn’t have to reveal itself to mark, if they knew he was selfless, would do the right thing and the outcome why give him a choice?
This ark we can Just skip
why is her neck so thin
I HATED this part in the comics. The story could've progressed well with a timeskip after/during the conflict with Thragg, perhaps even a "5-year war" timeskip, but they instead decided to pull this out of nowhere and make Mark suffer for no reason. It's completely out of place and only serves the purpose of skipping major story beats that Kirkman didn't bother to actually progress in the original run of the comics. I really hope the show leaves this out since Kirkman is an executive producer, and we get a much smoother story.
And, the effect this had on Mark and Eve's relationship is just terrible. I really don't see the point in any of it, and it's a huge plothole, too. Wouldn't Thragg have done more in those 5 years? It's just really poor, cruel, strange, and convoluted.
I liked it tbh
This plot is alr, I wished they thought of something else, though for a time skip
I hope they skip this in the show
I swear the illustrated made eve look so stupid. She’s always pulling weird faces
I truly hope they change it a little bit in the show because now I feel like I spoiled the show
This plot what terrible what was even the purpose 😂
I know, he did all that just to go back to the original timeline😂😂what was the use , i hope its not an episode in the series
Seeing Nolan get his ass kicked was pretty good.
Honestly kindof an L on mark on this one cause he could told eve to go the bathroom the moment rex and kate were in there, or he couldve just flat out told her since he's from the future rex is cheating on her and that over time she'll get over him and then mark couldve made the moves and since he knows her already itll be an easy W. Gwts the girls, millions live, and he gets Terra. They had a nice plot there with Mark retaining knowledge, but he didn't wanna use it with Eve? I find it weird
Even if Mark still hooks up with Eve, Terra still gets butterflied. The chances of the same sperm hitting the same egg in this timeline are astronomically low. Mark and Eve may end up having children but they won't be Terra. The daughter Mark knew would still be gone forever.
Wow this is terrible I really hope they skip this in the show.
This is like some awful fanfiction that was written by disney
This arc is horrible and they need to skip it. Besides the fact that it was a lazy way to write in a time skip for plot convenience, the message it attempts to bring is awful. If you've seen the episode tapestry from star trek, this is similar but it has the oppose message. The protagonist finds themselves in their past and they have a chance to right what went wrong. In star trek, it's shown that even actions that are mistakes in someone's past are necessary and essential to becoming something better. Meanwhile this trying to say no you should want to correct every mistake in your past and if you dont you're selfish. It's really bad writing.
No? It's the exact same message as Trek, but framed a bit selfishly. The arc is Kirkman's metextual shitpost about how comic universes use reboots as a crutch to correct perceived mistakes. Kirkman is famous for sticking to his choices. It's basically just saying that you should own the mistakes of your youth (both Mark's choices as a young man and Kirkman's various writing mistakes when he was a young man.)
Funny thing is, it's the complete opposite of bad writing... Not following the norm, because 1 show, decades ago, did it good, 1 way is bad writing to you?????? Plagiarize much? LMFFFAAAOOO
@@tankeater I bet you think the last jedi is the best star wars film because it "didn't follow the norm" lmao opinion discarded.
This is genuine filler
Garbage writing invincible should had been holding his own against omni man
He was in his younger body. Sure he had more skill than his original teen self but Nolan was a lot stronger than him at that point. And even just having more skill allowed Mark to set up a win against Omni-man.
@@kilerog that makes more sense
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I hope they remove this plotline from the show. Seems convoluted and unnecessary AF