It's the "once per turn" trigger. Token decks want to make multiple tokens per turn while control decks usually only have the capacity to make one token per turn (Fountainport, Sunfall, Deduce, etc.)
I mean if they DID want it to be for go wide decks they probably shouldn't have printed it into the format alongside Urabrask's Forge, Fountainport and Sunfall. At least I'd say those are the biggest enablers for using it in a control deck.
@@Luteloots to be fair when it was designed standard probably wasn't 3 years worth of sets yet so they'd have expected Urabrask's Forge and Sunfall to have rotated out by the time Bloomburrow came out. (Wizards works fairly far in advanced on sets)
Just had a crazy thought for pioneer. Use hare apparent, raise the past, and mystic reflection. If you have 5 hares in the yard and raise them they would make 4 tokens each. With thier triggers on the stack cast mystic reflection targeting a hare. The first trigger resolves making 4 more hares instead of rabbits, increasing the hare count to 9, so the last 8 would make 8 tokens each. That's 64 tokens lol.
I think you may need to add some way to immediately capitalize on the tokens so they don't get a chance to wrath. Red would help with purphurous to ping them to death with the tokens enter or the enduring dude that will give them all haste.
As a Hare Apparent + Raise the Past enjoyer, I just want to point out that that when you do raise the past, you should play any bunnies you can beforehand because it results in a lot more tokens. For example, in the Golgari match you raised and then played a hare, getting you 4 hares and 9 tokens, where if you played the hare then raised the past you would have 4 hares and 12 tokens since reach off the resurrected bunnies each simultaneously see an additional copy. Love the video!
So, I thought this as well, but it's not actually true, and it's hurting my brain because I very much assumed it would be. It seems to be because the bunnies give you x-1 tokens, not x tokens. I've run the math on a couple of different cases, and it seems to hold true across all cases that playing them in either order nets the same number of tokens. For the case in question: -As he played it, 3 hares at once for 6 tokens (3 triggers x 2 tokens each) + 1 hare for 3 tokens = 9 total. -As you recommended, 1 hare for 0 tokens + 3 hares at once for 9 tokens (3 triggers x 3 tokens each) = 9 total. I also tested if you already have some number of hares in play and it doesn't seem to matter. You still get the same number of tokens no matter the order you play/resurrect in. It's crazy that the math works that way and very counter-intuitive.
More general case, since it's on my mind: Let X be the number of hares you resurrect Resurrect first: X(X-1) + 1(X) = X^2 - X + X = X^2 Cast first: 1(0) + X(X) = 0 + X^2 = X^2 In both cases, you end up with the square of the number of hares you resurrect. This still holds true if you already have hares on the battlefield, but the math changes slightly. Let Y be the number of hares already on the battlefield Resurrect first: X(X-1+Y) + 1(X+Y) = X^2 - X + XY + X + Y = X^2 + XY + Y Cast first: 1(Y) + X(X+Y) = Y + X^2 + XY = X^2 + XY + Y In both cases here, we are getting the number of hares you resurrect squared plus the number of hares you resurrect times number of hares already on the battlefied plus number of hares already on the battlefield, regardless of cast order. Not the outcome I expected, but it holds true in all cases. Now I'm thinking about which order makes more sense in the face of single target removal held up by your opponent...
If your opponent has a single instant speed removal spell, you want to play Hare Apparent before RTP (assuming opponent plays optimally). For the 3 HA in the graveyard and 1 in hand case: RTP -> opponent kills one Hare while the 3x enters triggers are on the stack, leaving 3 tokens, cast HA from hand to get 2 more tokens for 5 total. (If the opponent waits till you play the HA from hand before casting the kill spell, then you end up with 8 tokens: 6 from the 3x RTP triggers and 2 more from the hand RA.) Play HA, then RTP. Opponent kills the HA while RTP is on the stack, 3 triggers of two tokens each for 6 total. (Killing a HA while the ETB triggers are on the stack also leaves 6 tokens.) Edit: Of course, your opponent might be holding on to their removal for a juicier target, so it may be better to go for the RTP -> hand HA line in some cases.
Delney hellqueues you, arguably you will perform better without him because adding him will more often match you with people who have answers for the rest of the deck
1:05:28 You would have won if you Play Caretaker's talent and leveled it up, You have 30 damage they are tapped out and block 6, you deal 24 and they have 23 life.
When I saw Painful Quandary, I knew I would love this video. I always want to use it but it's hard to drop a 5 drop passive. Thanks for the great work Sloth :)
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Seth, per your request during the Golgari match, here are the biggest mistakes I saw during the Golgari match: Game 1 - 1:05:32, missed lethal. Play and fully level up the talent, swing for 30 and they can only block 6. Game 2 - 1:13:34, Soul Partition a Dreadknight after attacks are declared. Don't block and take 6. Exile the Archfiend with Exorcise during your turn. Your position is more favorable and your opponent has the opportunity to missplay by casting the adventure mode of Dreadknight from exile, which would lose them the game. Game 3 - no major mistakes. Also, on the topic of Sunfall, I have mixed feelings about it rotating. Exile wraths do reduce counterplay, but with the amount of low CMC persistent threats WotC has been printing (Mosswood Dreadknight, Unstoppable Slasher, Enduring Curiosity, etc.) they feel more and more relevant. Though I love the current standard, I don't like FIRE design. So many cards along the curve feel like must answers, so slower decks need to pack tons of flexible answers to not die randomly. I'd like to see a reduction in the quality of threats and answers so the format slows down and games have more decision points. Lastly, I hope Vince is ok in the end? He should probably talk to aa medical professional if he's seeing a lot of blood in his stool.
I have been playing a similar deck for a while in best of one. Mine is just 28 Hare Apparent, 4 Caretaker's Talent, 4 Enduring Innocence, 24 Plains. It wins a surprising amount, but one deadly cover-up and I am cooked.
Call me crazy but i think with the "any number" cards, 1/3 of the deck is the bare minimum you want to play. Yes, 20 cards in 1v1 and 33 in commander sounds like a lot, but getting that stuff to work requires dedication.
If you are going to cast a heir apparent and a raise the past in the same turn, you should cast the creature first, that way you get more total tokens on the mass reanimation
57:44 in a matchup against sunfall, it's beneficial here to triple block the Beza with your 3 hare apparents, so that they die instead of going to exile. That way raise the past actually does something if you draw it.
1:04:16 Here you could've lay down arms your own hare apparent to mute the maelstrom pulse. Not sure if that's the right play or not, or if it even matters, but it is worth considering! :)
I've been playing Hare Apparent in my Kasla, the Broken Halo EDH deck. With the scry/draw effect Dazzling Theater kinda ends up being another copy of Thrumming Stone. It's really fun.
1:07:07 why play Hare apparent here when you can give all your rabbits the +2/+2, attack with all of the tokens, and still have the one summoning sick token, and two rabbits back on blocks? Or even attack with 9 of the tokens. They eat 3 of them, you get in for 18-21 depending on if they blocked with Llanowar, and then next turn you can go for lethal after presumably clumping all of their attackers?
I’ve been waiting for you to make deck using hare apparent. I had a deck using it but my computer died on me so I haven’t even had a chance to run it. But it seems to be such a fun card to use. I’m curious how similar our decks would be.
I wonder if 1 or two of Dazzling Theater // Prop Room would super charge this deck as you can tap hare apparents and their tokens to cast more and keep drawing cards with enduring innocence.
I never do this, but I'd like to formally request a Stasis Coffin combo deck. I think there might be enough token copy effects in standard that you could sac one each turn and have protection from your opponent forever.
Should've laid down arms the scooze, then you could've swung in more often. Also, dug harder with your fountain ports. Also, you can soul partition your own permanents.
I've tried different ways to make hare apparent work. I found that the self-mill plan (e.g. picklock prankster, Fallaji Archaeologist) works better than the card draw plan (caretaker's talent, enduring curiosity) and going all in on Raise the Past.
I was playing earlier and kept getting my hare apparent exiled so i couldn't raise them Then you run into the black card that removes all hare apparent from your deck ...
Edit: Nevermind, Lay down arms sorcery speed. In response to the Maelstrom Pulse you should have cast Lay Down Arms targeting the Hare Apparent that was targeted, fizzling the spell and keeping your 4 others.
I ran into this deck while laddering in Diamond, was playing my manifest dread/blink in omniscience/big creatures deck and missed 3 dreads somehow - lost by turn 5 or 6 :(
id love to see hare apparent with that kaldheim blue sorcery that makes all your tokens enter as a copy of a creature-- having the hare apparents make more hare apparents seems absurd
They might have also put in things like maelstrom pulse because they expected more people to try to abuse Fishing Pole for all-you-can-eat fish tokens.
I like to play this deck relying more on Wraths+ Raise the past + Soul sister rabbits. More resilient against aggro, but kinda weak to graveyard hate, unless you can time things smoothly.
Last time I tried to play a Hare deck, I played against 3 opponents in a row that were running (and drawing) Deadly Cover-up. I rage-deleted the deck and never looked back. That being said, Hare Apparent is my go-to whenever we get a Constructed Brawl MWM event, since I can't be bothered to make an actual Brawl deck.
I tried hare apparent in so many versions. Boros that's more of a Arabella deck is like the only way, and even then it still looses 80% of the time because of the meta, heh.
Three Steps Ahead would be the easiest and most direct way. If however you wanted to do it in the most janky way possible then you could play Leyline of Transformation naming any of the Outlaw tribals and then use Double Down.
I think it is impossble to make an interesting Hare Apparent deck because if you win, it's because you have 20 copies of Hare Apparent. If you lose it's because you have 20 copies of hare apparent.
I'd really like to see a Farewell that destroys instead of exiling in standard. One of my biggest problems when trying to play draw go control is decks that play a lot of artifacts and enchantments. I leaned on Farewell a lot when it was legal, but I often now find myself in a situation where my opponent has creatures and artifacts/enchantments, and I need to deal with both or else I lose. I know there's Cease/Desist, but it isn't enough
A lot of people complain that aggro gets too much love from Wizards, in fact I think Seth has also said it a few times. But I think their favored child is hard control and cards like Sunfall prove it.
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Vince is like: "I heard you were beating mono red? Well I need some help with some mono red of my own, and it's got a lot of burn."
the pleasantkenobi bit was rather hilarious
"I hope you aren't recording right now" famous last words
They didn't even tell me my silly little messages made it into the video. Amazing.
@@PleasantKenobi I'm concerned you asked Seth for help rather than a medical professional. Hope all ended well!
@@PleasantKenobi i mean aside from the classic hemorrhoids advice i don't think any of us can help you there, go see a doctor XP
I was thinking you were playing Arena, and was just making a joke about board wiping.
@@PleasantKenobi eat more fiber, also there's such a thing as too much wiping
"I keep wiping and wiping and wiping and it wont stop"
Yeah, trying to play control against any aggro does feel like that nowdays.
Seriously feels like you've beat a raid boss at this point. Need a drink afterwards 😂
It's funny that Caretaker's talent was seemingly made for go wide, token decks like this, but works arguably better in control decks as of now.
Stormchaser's talent is similar, looks like its for prowess decks and is apparently much better in the bounce your own things value engine
It's the "once per turn" trigger. Token decks want to make multiple tokens per turn while control decks usually only have the capacity to make one token per turn (Fountainport, Sunfall, Deduce, etc.)
I mean if they DID want it to be for go wide decks they probably shouldn't have printed it into the format alongside Urabrask's Forge, Fountainport and Sunfall. At least I'd say those are the biggest enablers for using it in a control deck.
Have been playing it with Teferi because the draw from the token triggers the token and gives Teferi one of the loyalty back.
@@Luteloots to be fair when it was designed standard probably wasn't 3 years worth of sets yet so they'd have expected Urabrask's Forge and Sunfall to have rotated out by the time Bloomburrow came out.
(Wizards works fairly far in advanced on sets)
Just had a crazy thought for pioneer. Use hare apparent, raise the past, and mystic reflection. If you have 5 hares in the yard and raise them they would make 4 tokens each. With thier triggers on the stack cast mystic reflection targeting a hare. The first trigger resolves making 4 more hares instead of rabbits, increasing the hare count to 9, so the last 8 would make 8 tokens each. That's 64 tokens lol.
I think you may need to add some way to immediately capitalize on the tokens so they don't get a chance to wrath. Red would help with purphurous to ping them to death with the tokens enter or the enduring dude that will give them all haste.
Pleasantkenobi's guest appearance was gold lol!
As a Hare Apparent + Raise the Past enjoyer, I just want to point out that that when you do raise the past, you should play any bunnies you can beforehand because it results in a lot more tokens. For example, in the Golgari match you raised and then played a hare, getting you 4 hares and 9 tokens, where if you played the hare then raised the past you would have 4 hares and 12 tokens since reach off the resurrected bunnies each simultaneously see an additional copy.
Love the video!
So, I thought this as well, but it's not actually true, and it's hurting my brain because I very much assumed it would be. It seems to be because the bunnies give you x-1 tokens, not x tokens. I've run the math on a couple of different cases, and it seems to hold true across all cases that playing them in either order nets the same number of tokens.
For the case in question:
-As he played it, 3 hares at once for 6 tokens (3 triggers x 2 tokens each) + 1 hare for 3 tokens = 9 total.
-As you recommended, 1 hare for 0 tokens + 3 hares at once for 9 tokens (3 triggers x 3 tokens each) = 9 total.
I also tested if you already have some number of hares in play and it doesn't seem to matter. You still get the same number of tokens no matter the order you play/resurrect in. It's crazy that the math works that way and very counter-intuitive.
More general case, since it's on my mind:
Let X be the number of hares you resurrect
Resurrect first:
X(X-1) + 1(X) = X^2 - X + X = X^2
Cast first:
1(0) + X(X) = 0 + X^2 = X^2
In both cases, you end up with the square of the number of hares you resurrect. This still holds true if you already have hares on the battlefield, but the math changes slightly.
Let Y be the number of hares already on the battlefield
Resurrect first:
X(X-1+Y) + 1(X+Y) = X^2 - X + XY + X + Y = X^2 + XY + Y
Cast first:
1(Y) + X(X+Y) = Y + X^2 + XY = X^2 + XY + Y
In both cases here, we are getting the number of hares you resurrect squared plus the number of hares you resurrect times number of hares already on the battlefied plus number of hares already on the battlefield, regardless of cast order.
Not the outcome I expected, but it holds true in all cases. Now I'm thinking about which order makes more sense in the face of single target removal held up by your opponent...
It should be 3 triggers x 4 tokens each = 12 total
If your opponent has a single instant speed removal spell, you want to play Hare Apparent before RTP (assuming opponent plays optimally). For the 3 HA in the graveyard and 1 in hand case:
RTP -> opponent kills one Hare while the 3x enters triggers are on the stack, leaving 3 tokens, cast HA from hand to get 2 more tokens for 5 total. (If the opponent waits till you play the HA from hand before casting the kill spell, then you end up with 8 tokens: 6 from the 3x RTP triggers and 2 more from the hand RA.)
Play HA, then RTP. Opponent kills the HA while RTP is on the stack, 3 triggers of two tokens each for 6 total. (Killing a HA while the ETB triggers are on the stack also leaves 6 tokens.)
Edit: Of course, your opponent might be holding on to their removal for a juicier target, so it may be better to go for the RTP -> hand HA line in some cases.
@@battleship789if they kill it in response to cast that means it’ll just reanimate too
I was screaming at Seth not to lay down arms the bunny! Poor bunny. 🐰 😔
I was screaming for him to Lay Down the bunny 🐰 targeted by the pulse 😂
@@soron703 Sorcery
I was screaming as well to “Lay Down Arms!”
@@soron703 Lay down arms is a sorcery so sadly the bunnies were doomed
@@OceanicBacon Oh that explains it, thanks, never played that card 😅
Maelstrom Pulse is the bane of Hare Apparent. It was "Hare today? Gone tomorrow!"
No, it's memorycide / surgical extraction type effects.
Vince cameo bringing the wins.
“Hellllo every bunnny it’s Seth” haha the into finally fits!
Don’t worry. People with taste caught your “always more tokens in the banana stand” comment. Well done sir
It took me reading this to catch that it was a Arrested Development reference
That caught me so off guard xd
I'm surprised Delney isn't in the deck. Double triggers plus no blocking for early aggro is great
THIS
Delney hellqueues you, arguably you will perform better without him because adding him will more often match you with people who have answers for the rest of the deck
@@shdowdrgonrider That's only in unranked best of one and brawl. Seth is playing ranked best of 3 in this video.
I'm playing them with Delney and altar of the brood
@@Nyundaa its still rigged to an extent
1:05:28 You would have won if you Play Caretaker's talent and leveled it up, You have 30 damage they are tapped out and block 6, you deal 24 and they have 23 life.
of all modes of communication pleasantkeonbi could have chosen it had to be mtga 😂
22:11 it warms my heart knowing that Arrested Development references are still circulating in 2025 😂
I still find that show super funny, well, maybe not the last couple of Netflix seasons, but the main run is still great.
"Well, we have successfully played eight Hare Apparents. I'm pretty sure we're dead."
One of the very best series. Love these videos!
I've been playing a Boros Hare Apparent deck with Warleaders' Call and The Jolly Balloon Man. I call it "Balloon Animals"
Yo! I wanna build this as a commander deck!
Should be called Looney Tunes
Weird way to find out my favorite Magic RUclipsrs live in the same building complex, lol.
*Thanks for the Content* !
Do they? I thought Vince was in Europe and Seth was in America.
Yeah, Vince is in the UK and I'm in the USA. He was hoping for some long distance help lol.
Who would win? A 2 drop rabbit that makes more rabbits the more of itself is on the board or a 1 drop with 5 lines of text and a death trigger?
When I saw Painful Quandary, I knew I would love this video. I always want to use it but it's hard to drop a 5 drop passive.
Thanks for the great work Sloth :)
Delney, Streetwise Lookout is cracked in this deck
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Pleasant kenobi was not expected
Missed opportunity to name the deck hare raiser
Seth, per your request during the Golgari match, here are the biggest mistakes I saw during the Golgari match:
Game 1 - 1:05:32, missed lethal. Play and fully level up the talent, swing for 30 and they can only block 6.
Game 2 - 1:13:34, Soul Partition a Dreadknight after attacks are declared. Don't block and take 6. Exile the Archfiend with Exorcise during your turn. Your position is more favorable and your opponent has the opportunity to missplay by casting the adventure mode of Dreadknight from exile, which would lose them the game.
Game 3 - no major mistakes.
Also, on the topic of Sunfall, I have mixed feelings about it rotating. Exile wraths do reduce counterplay, but with the amount of low CMC persistent threats WotC has been printing (Mosswood Dreadknight, Unstoppable Slasher, Enduring Curiosity, etc.) they feel more and more relevant. Though I love the current standard, I don't like FIRE design. So many cards along the curve feel like must answers, so slower decks need to pack tons of flexible answers to not die randomly. I'd like to see a reduction in the quality of threats and answers so the format slows down and games have more decision points.
Lastly, I hope Vince is ok in the end? He should probably talk to aa medical professional if he's seeing a lot of blood in his stool.
I loved the nature-based animal rankings lol. Birds (certain ones anyway) do indeed eat bunnies.
I really want to see a self-mill version of this where you Raise the Past all the Hare Apparent’s at once.
I never see 'The End' and stone brains normally, but as soon. As play a hare deck they come out of the woodwork
WotC swears the matchmaking system doesn’t give you impossible matchups on purpose, but…
I mostly see Sheoldred's Edict when I'm playing a Bogle deck too lol.
Man, I always run Stone Brain in my sideboard nowadays for standard tournaments. It's just such a good card. Too much BS in the format hahaha
Beat a hare apparent deck using Deadly Coverup to exile all copies of the card and then milling them - felt really evil
I have been playing a similar deck for a while in best of one. Mine is just 28 Hare Apparent, 4 Caretaker's Talent, 4 Enduring Innocence, 24 Plains. It wins a surprising amount, but one deadly cover-up and I am cooked.
If you splash red you can get bitter reunion and impact tremors (or warleaders call) to finish the game with raise the past etb pings
Call me crazy but i think with the "any number" cards, 1/3 of the deck is the bare minimum you want to play. Yes, 20 cards in 1v1 and 33 in commander sounds like a lot, but getting that stuff to work requires dedication.
If you are going to cast a heir apparent and a raise the past in the same turn, you should cast the creature first, that way you get more total tokens on the mass reanimation
57:44 in a matchup against sunfall, it's beneficial here to triple block the Beza with your 3 hare apparents, so that they die instead of going to exile. That way raise the past actually does something if you draw it.
1:04:16 Here you could've lay down arms your own hare apparent to mute the maelstrom pulse. Not sure if that's the right play or not, or if it even matters, but it is worth considering! :)
Hey Seth, if you're talking about the first Hare Apparent, you realize it's actually a Grizzly Hare, right?
57:41 Seth you can put all the Hares in front of Beza, so later when you draw the Raise the Past, you can reanimate them all
50:20 Lay down arms?
I was wondering that too. Not that it ended up mattering much
Hare Apparent is such an interesting card. Glad to see it's getting a lot of attention!
game one was great. "what could my opponent be doing with all that mill?" you ask, holding raise the past in hand.
I've been playing Hare Apparent in my Kasla, the Broken Halo EDH deck. With the scry/draw effect Dazzling Theater kinda ends up being another copy of Thrumming Stone. It's really fun.
I've been waiting for this one for like two month!
Also, adding red for haste enabler, then Another Round to blink any hares on the board is fun.
Love the Arrested Development reference rofl!
Drinking game: Drink 1ml every time Seth says Hare Apparent and 1 shot every time someone needs toilet help.
Vince with the ole magic marker wipe. Happens to the best of us.
On the bright side, Sunfall is rotating later this year. I'll be glad to see the back of it as well.
1:07:07 why play Hare apparent here when you can give all your rabbits the +2/+2, attack with all of the tokens, and still have the one summoning sick token, and two rabbits back on blocks? Or even attack with 9 of the tokens. They eat 3 of them, you get in for 18-21 depending on if they blocked with Llanowar, and then next turn you can go for lethal after presumably clumping all of their attackers?
I love facing these decks because i always play The End and Deadly coverup and then they scoop
I’ve been waiting for you to make deck using hare apparent. I had a deck using it but my computer died on me so I haven’t even had a chance to run it. But it seems to be such a fun card to use. I’m curious how similar our decks would be.
You need to splash blue for protection of your combo basically. Even a couple spell pierces and negates could've gone a long way.
Where is Denley?😂 And help the poor guy!🤣
I wonder if 1 or two of Dazzling Theater // Prop Room would super charge this deck as you can tap hare apparents and their tokens to cast more and keep drawing cards with enduring innocence.
I never do this, but I'd like to formally request a Stasis Coffin combo deck. I think there might be enough token copy effects in standard that you could sac one each turn and have protection from your opponent forever.
When i cast “the end” this deck concedes almost every time. Mono black
Prologue to Pharisees
PleasantKenobi asking Seth for help right after the punt. You might get unexpected results Vince
Should've laid down arms the scooze, then you could've swung in more often. Also, dug harder with your fountain ports.
Also, you can soul partition your own permanents.
I've tried different ways to make hare apparent work. I found that the self-mill plan (e.g. picklock prankster, Fallaji Archaeologist) works better than the card draw plan (caretaker's talent, enduring curiosity) and going all in on Raise the Past.
I made a very funny version of the stack with the ley line that makes all creatures a certain type, and then Giada with the Hare Apparent lol
I’ve been playing a lot of Hares lately and if you’re looking for a finisher Banner of Kinship can really get the job done.
Seen the part about Vince and looked at the comments to see if he posted. Super funny.
I am not sure if he will come to comment here...he's probably still wiping! 😂
What about a one of fun of Rabbit Response/On the Job, Family Reunion, or Make a Stand as well, seems decent
I was playing earlier and kept getting my hare apparent exiled so i couldn't raise them
Then you run into the black card that removes all hare apparent from your deck ...
Edit: Nevermind, Lay down arms sorcery speed.
In response to the Maelstrom Pulse you should have cast Lay Down Arms targeting the Hare Apparent that was targeted, fizzling the spell and keeping your 4 others.
Lay down arms is a sorcery tho
@@adrianmelo7768 Oh. Sorcery speed removal smh
I ran into this deck while laddering in Diamond, was playing my manifest dread/blink in omniscience/big creatures deck and missed 3 dreads somehow - lost by turn 5 or 6 :(
id love to see hare apparent with that kaldheim blue sorcery that makes all your tokens enter as a copy of a creature-- having the hare apparents make more hare apparents seems absurd
They might have also put in things like maelstrom pulse because they expected more people to try to abuse Fishing Pole for all-you-can-eat fish tokens.
Come for the rabbits, stay for the wiping.
Hey Seth, you should have tried to put in the commander that gives em offspring for the Hare Apparents lol
Built a red white version of this set on milling then mass reanimating with the offspring card that deals 1 damage on etb
This deck's name needs to be "Hare Raising Experience"
In your into did you say pop off or hop off? I know the one i want it to be lol
I have played The End on a Hare Apparent…they had 17 of them. It didn’t feel great, but it was also hilarious
I feel like Dragon's Approach is theoretically the strongest of the "you can play any number of this card" cards?
I like to play this deck relying more on Wraths+ Raise the past + Soul sister rabbits. More resilient against aggro, but kinda weak to graveyard hate, unless you can time things smoothly.
Last time I tried to play a Hare deck, I played against 3 opponents in a row that were running (and drawing) Deadly Cover-up. I rage-deleted the deck and never looked back. That being said, Hare Apparent is my go-to whenever we get a Constructed Brawl MWM event, since I can't be bothered to make an actual Brawl deck.
I wish we'd get another Squadron Hawk effect in standard. Made for some really interesting plays
i usually dont give you grief for punting. but THAT punt was painful
I tried hare apparent in so many versions. Boros that's more of a Arabella deck is like the only way, and even then it still looses 80% of the time because of the meta, heh.
Why no Valley Questcaller and/or Warren Warleader?
Isnt there some way to make a token copy of Hare Apparent in standard? That could be pretty nuts with caretakers talent
Three Steps Ahead would be the easiest and most direct way. If however you wanted to do it in the most janky way possible then you could play Leyline of Transformation naming any of the Outlaw tribals and then use Double Down.
There's always more tokens in the Banana Stand Seth!
Rumor has it Pleasantkenobi is still stuck in the toilet.
I think it is impossble to make an interesting Hare Apparent deck because if you win, it's because you have 20 copies of Hare Apparent. If you lose it's because you have 20 copies of hare apparent.
Havent watched the video yet, fingers crossed that maelstrom pulse makes an appearance!
1:04:13 oh nooo 🥲
I've got a funny version of this cooked up for Modern. Hare Apparent+Mondrak+Thrumming Stone
One of the people at my LGS is playing a Hare Apparent deck but they're splashing green for Anthem of Champions & Parallel Lives.
Phineas is also pretty nice in selesnya hare apparent
I'd really like to see a Farewell that destroys instead of exiling in standard. One of my biggest problems when trying to play draw go control is decks that play a lot of artifacts and enchantments. I leaned on Farewell a lot when it was legal, but I often now find myself in a situation where my opponent has creatures and artifacts/enchantments, and I need to deal with both or else I lose. I know there's Cease/Desist, but it isn't enough
Selesnya control for cease, season of gathering, tranquil frillback, tear asunder
And of course pawpatch formation
i would play some lupinflower vilages in the manabase and some number of hinterland sanctifiers in the 75 of this deck.
valley questcaller must have been insane in this deck if it was included, think of all the scry and power... althought it's not a hare apparent
I like how this isn't even against the odds
Just looking at the initial deck tech, I wish Delney and Three Tree City were in here.
His first opponent is how i play hare apparent.
Man I thought I was about to learn some tech to bypass nemesis 😅
I trully wanted this one to work tho. Would have been such a great great deck to play
Flare of Fortitude is very good in this deck because you always have a hare to sac
I love this card. It is great when I play the end and the game ends at turn 4.
A lot of people complain that aggro gets too much love from Wizards, in fact I think Seth has also said it a few times.
But I think their favored child is hard control and cards like Sunfall prove it.
did vince ever stop wiping?
Hes still there to this day 😢
Why is three tree city not in this deck? It feels almost custom made for this scenario no?