Factory Framing Passive House Walls - "Build Original Series" Episode 1

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Комментарии • 210

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin0654 3 года назад +56

    I believe the most important benefit of factory panels is the use of jigs that provide square and plum results.

    • @drewp503
      @drewp503 3 года назад

      if people hire builders that build and where a tool belt that isnt an issue...typically builders hire framers and dont check the work

    • @JOSEPH-vs2gc
      @JOSEPH-vs2gc 3 года назад +2

      on a completely random note, the eventual obsolescence of human labor is concerning, i mean what are we gonna do when the machines take over? paint pictures all day and drink wine as robots and algorithms do all the work for us?

    • @malydok
      @malydok 3 года назад +9

      @@JOSEPH-vs2gc let the robots create base value for us to live off of and be free to pursue whatever you want on top of that without fretting for your livelihood. "Hand made" isn't going anywhere any time soon :-)

    • @viliuszyb
      @viliuszyb 3 года назад +2

      @@JOSEPH-vs2gc i would say ohayo answer what we are hoping for, but reality is that automation will bring wealth to few individuals while the majority will starve and riot.

    • @JOSEPH-vs2gc
      @JOSEPH-vs2gc 3 года назад

      @@viliuszyb true, the smart phone your holding was shipped over from China, built by sweat-shop worker-slaves, while we Automate in the west with AI and robots and kill off potential jobs for average people who can't be rockstars or rocket scientists. The whole system is some kind of dysfunctional mutation of a creature. And the Elite are riding on this beast.

  • @peterebenhoech8423
    @peterebenhoech8423 3 года назад +7

    Thanks, Matt for including some Canadian content. Always enjoy your shows being an Architecture student here in Canada, been learning a lot from you which helps with schooling.

  • @007MegaRoll
    @007MegaRoll 3 года назад +11

    we need something like this in USA. Ordering from Canada adds extra costs

    • @rollingacresfarmstead206
      @rollingacresfarmstead206 3 года назад

      dont forget that exchange rate I bet you would be ahead. I know of a guy who saved over 50k and that included delivery

    • @teddysthaiadventure2534
      @teddysthaiadventure2534 3 года назад

      Working on it now. Looking to setup in Ontario Cali

  • @kenreynolds1000
    @kenreynolds1000 3 года назад +9

    OK, love the concept of the pre-fab wall but you skimmed past some key items. Boxes, wire routing, plumbing? How do you mount everything together/to the foundation when the insulation is in place.

  • @UNBOUNDED-zq9ul
    @UNBOUNDED-zq9ul Год назад

    ANOTHER GREAT VID !!!

  • @journalsofathirddensitytra3498
    @journalsofathirddensitytra3498 2 года назад +1

    This is amazing, im trying to learn all i can about this exact subject. Thank you so much!

  • @InnotechWindowsDoors
    @InnotechWindowsDoors 3 года назад +7

    Thanks Matt and the Build Show Network! Very excited to be part of the first Build Original Series.

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  3 года назад +1

      Sure glad to have you guy a part of this... Check out this Innotech house I made a video about: ruclips.net/video/_vul4vMFdkA/видео.html

  • @JozefParker
    @JozefParker 3 года назад +1

    Wish something like this was available near me for when I get my house built. Great info.

  • @ThePete2432
    @ThePete2432 3 года назад +7

    This is going to be a great series!

  • @auwtomoton
    @auwtomoton 3 года назад

    So cool! Love to see a smart system that cares for people and planet and process in so many directions.

  • @latitude48design
    @latitude48design 3 года назад

    Great video showing the evolution of pre-fab construction. The key here with this business is the low embodied carbon concept and using recycled materials that perform just as well as readily available products in our building supply stores. I hope they touch upon the Step Code in BC and our drive to Net Zero ready homes by 2032!

  • @udp1073
    @udp1073 3 года назад

    that process can and should be patented and trademarked. other did similar stuff.. they should really do it.. standardization in process can and will lead to standardization in procedures which will allow maximum flexibility in the creative and design space while allowing optimal usage of resource (materials, labor, equipment) creating the highest value for the customer and the highest earning for the company. thanks for sharing this video, it is always stunning to see ingenuity in action

  • @BGTech1
    @BGTech1 3 года назад +31

    Unfortunately I had to stop my cabin in the woods project because I can’t afford wood due to the extreme prices. At least I was able to make videos about what I was able to do.

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  3 года назад +10

      Oh dang. Sorry to hear that. I'm hopeful we will see prices on lumber decrease soon

    • @studygodsword5937
      @studygodsword5937 3 года назад

      @@buildshow I watched your video on siding spacing, away from the wall, how did that deal with the huge problem of bees ?

    • @brianpemberton5687
      @brianpemberton5687 3 года назад +4

      @@studygodsword5937 You use one of many products available to block entry from the top and bottom of your rain screen. Often times people just use a bug screen. Matt as well as many others have shown how to address this issue numerous times all over youtube.

    • @dovahkindragonborn9827
      @dovahkindragonborn9827 3 года назад +2

      @@buildshow do you think the price of lumber would increase high enough where builders start considering post frame housing instead of traditional framing due to the lower amount of materials needed

    • @alexanderjamieson7971
      @alexanderjamieson7971 3 года назад +2

      @@studygodsword5937 bug screen

  • @cwiASLsgs
    @cwiASLsgs 3 года назад +1

    Very nice! Something being built in the north!

  • @MrRogsmart
    @MrRogsmart 3 года назад +3

    He's a natural. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

  • @gunnrboy
    @gunnrboy 3 года назад +14

    What modeling software do they use?

  • @Wiesi22
    @Wiesi22 3 года назад

    That is very similar to how my house was prefabricated here in Austria. 11 inch framing filled with cellulose. A 3 inch Gutex board wood fiber panel on the outside against thermal bridging. On the inside my builder uses a Fundermax organic fiber board (high density wood fiber bound with organic resin) as the vapor barrier. Further inside we have a timber framed 3 inch installation cavity with rockwool insulation and finally a plasterboard on the inside. Here in Austria nearly every timber framed house's walls and ceilings get prefabricated completely inside a factory, and than build up at location in one or two days max to a rainproof prefinish. I visited my builders own factory. They have big CnC machines for precise cutting and an automatic framing, nailing and insulation filling system.

    • @demendonca416
      @demendonca416 3 года назад

      Hi Philipp. Would you mind providing some of the Austrian company names doing building panels? Thank you.

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 3 года назад

    What exites me the most is the limitation of wastage. They are able to order precisely the required lengths. That allows the lumber yard to use every bit of quality resource, as they can also send them the shorter bits.
    I understand that the price performance is now always the best, so these systems make sense in rural areas where there is limited skilled labour. Another usecase is short working time, measured in time during the day and months. The limitation of noise is great as well for fancy neighborhoods.
    It would not be my default method, but I'd definitely at least ask for a quote :)

  • @SinnisjInsulator
    @SinnisjInsulator 3 года назад

    Great share Matt sweet to see a canadian company in action.

  • @markpalmer5311
    @markpalmer5311 3 года назад

    Matt, great show! Love highlighting these detail oriented, higher standard builders.

  • @niklasxl
    @niklasxl 3 года назад +16

    interesting that they stack the elements laying flat, here in Finland ive only seen them put the elements vertical on the trailers so that they can just lift them straight up with the folding crane and not need to turn them upright on side :D

    • @tedfritsch3340
      @tedfritsch3340 3 года назад +5

      This might be done because of height restrictions in Canada and the U.S. for big trucks. To move the product without extra permits the load cannot exceed a height of 13' 6".

    • @niklasxl
      @niklasxl 3 года назад +4

      @@tedfritsch3340 oh yeah did not even think about the height :D here i think its 4,2m normally , 4,4m with signs and over that with a permit that i guess is easy to get since they are so common :D my searches might be wrong though :D

    • @ReadersOfTheApocalypse
      @ReadersOfTheApocalypse 3 года назад +3

      @@niklasxl I assume in Europe it's more about width restrictions.

    • @niklasxl
      @niklasxl 3 года назад +1

      @@ReadersOfTheApocalypse yeah, at least in the cities but outside them its not that big of a deal, but yeah i guess here they rather not have it stick beyond the car and trailer itself on the sides :D

    • @ReadersOfTheApocalypse
      @ReadersOfTheApocalypse 3 года назад +1

      @@niklasxl I don't know about Finnland, but in Germany they couldn't get far without special permission... anywhere. 🤣
      Max width is 2.55m or 8'1".

  • @stephenlotto740
    @stephenlotto740 3 года назад +10

    I hope you show a house that has been put together.

  • @enriquealdogarcia4850
    @enriquealdogarcia4850 Год назад

    many thanks, it's really exilaran!!!

  • @TylerDickey1
    @TylerDickey1 3 года назад

    Great stuff. Sharing new materials and best practices from around the globe! I hope you get back to Europe or maybe somewhere crazy next seeing a Texan in Japan would be a trip!

  • @BorisFett
    @BorisFett 3 года назад

    Awesome setup

  • @mrkozz1
    @mrkozz1 3 года назад

    Awesome! Keep them coming!

  • @johnnyv5995
    @johnnyv5995 3 года назад

    Awesome! Every detail well planned out, and everyone wins in the end! Looking forward to wearing that t-shirt ;) Thank you Matt for bring us this new series. #CanadaProud

  • @MOC386
    @MOC386 3 года назад

    I design this exact thing on a daily basis. I love it.

    • @daviddyck2187
      @daviddyck2187 Год назад

      For which company do you design for?

  • @StreamingF1ydave
    @StreamingF1ydave 3 года назад +8

    I would have liked to know what the cost was for the panels over traditional installs.

  • @leestevens446
    @leestevens446 3 года назад +4

    I presume thermal bridging with this frame/ insulation arrangement is a bit better than typical wood frame, but I cannot for the life of me understand how people go "high-performance" and then studiously avoid going continuous exterior insulation. I have done continuous exterior walls going back more than a decade, and continuous roof going back 40 years. I would not willingly return to conventional. Best approach re: thermal and moisture issues.
    Panelizing is also best approach for several reasons. I am surprised here that there is no machine measuring system at the cut line/ chop saw (even such as Tiger Stop, which is actually pretty lightweight for framing lumber). We have used a 22' Hain Measure and Bosch glide miter saw with great success; fast and extremely precise. I am curious how these guys handled the panel squaring. We had a table with flip tabs to hold bottom plate and left edge straight and square, the precision cuts force the two free edges to line up. Finally, I could not tell if sheathing overlapped, or was cut to edge of panels. In our Colorado high wind zones, lapping sheathing panels over all rims and all corner framing is a key requirement, and the crane handling makes this easy to accommodate. We had a pair of steel lift eyes fabricated, with flat plates drilled for 2 to 4 GRK screws to attach to the top plates. Lift, set, unscrew and repeat on next panel. No holes to drill, it is fast and safe, especially if you swap 2 pairs of lift eyes. And, if you have a bunch of adjustable brace screws as used on concrete formwork, you stand up close, and fine tune plumb at your leisure.

    • @markpalmer5311
      @markpalmer5311 3 года назад

      This just has to be the future. I’ve tracked Connor Homes, Benson, Blueprint Robotics, these guys. Some successes, some failures, but that’s part of any transition. And I know panelizing isn’t new, but I have to believe that every iteration that succeeds gets better. At some point, doesn’t this become manufacturing and assembly onsite at scale? Why don’t the production builders do this? I’ve seen Habitat chapters do something like this and it seems like such a straightforward leap. Really liked your comments about continuous exterior insulation. I’m enjoying following Matt’s build, and as a Texas homeowner, when I do another house, it will have it. Totally into the monopoly framing. High performance building would have helped lots of southern US homeowners more comfortably deal with the recent freeze, in addition to more comfortably live in our traditional weather.

    • @leestevens446
      @leestevens446 3 года назад +1

      @@markpalmer5311 Well, it probably should be the future, but there are serious obstacles. It is called MONEY. Factory panelization has fairly serious capital requirements. The production builders don't want to be saddled with a non-yielding investment in a downturn (a regular feature of residential construction), when you cane get the equivalent (to them)) results with cheap (immigrant) labor that can be dumped at no cost or liability when things get slow. Front Range Colorado, that is how it works, for the overwhelming majority of home construction. Current labor shortages seem to be pushing for panelization, in its most basic firm, but not really pushing the technology envelope (insulation and air/ moisture control).
      84 Lumber had a basic panel plant set up north of Denver in 2006, but they folded early in the 2008 downturn and never re-opened.
      Another take: www.simplehomes.com/#/project/simplehomes
      I have met the guys, even given them a few tips and pointers based on my experience. They are very aware of, and fighting, the capital cost issue. I do not think they will go very far, at least relative to their stated goal of revolutionizing the industry. Doesn't mean a bad product, just that there are a lot of very high hurdles to overcome. Consumers willingly buy into a subdivision with only four different house plans (maybe eight, if they mirror), but reject "factory" homes as mass produced generic dreck. Go figure. Do not discount the value of emotion over rationality.

    • @markpalmer5311
      @markpalmer5311 3 года назад

      @@leestevens446 check out Blueprint Robotics and it would be great to hear what you think. I have no connection to them. With all the big PE and other funds buying up housing stock, the corporat-ization of the first family home is coming and I would think they would see the benefit of investing the capital to get more durable houses up faster. I think Blueprint is focusing on multi-family condo/townhome projects for the reasons you detailed.

    • @leestevens446
      @leestevens446 3 года назад +1

      @@markpalmer5311 Corporatization has been here a VERY long time. The national homebuilders build a huge percentage of the new homes in this country, and they are the gatekeepers. That is, only until there is an overwhelming revolution in the ranks of home buyers; forcing changes re: quality and durability. I would not hold my breath. There are 100 ignorant greedy cheapskate homebuyers out there for every individual like you, and they are well served by the status quo. And, they all know there is another sucker coming along to unload the property on. We move too much in this country to put a high value on life cycle costs. Multifamily is more of a business (or government) arena, and likely has more in the way of long-term ownership and therefore durability concerns.
      [post got garbled, here is re-try]
      The capital cost of super-high productivity means that the plant must be kept very busy to return the investment. The only way to do that is to put out a huge amount of essentially the same pieces. Think autos, there is actually extremely little customization of any one Ford pickup truck, as an example. Even with computers, there is a tremendous amount of human labor that must go into a planning and detailing any project, and that makes for a huge amount of total human cost. Blueprint has obviously realized this, and not wasted time on the small and individualized single family houses. Think once, build 50 times. They have gone right to the mass/ volume production with these large multifamily builds. Productivity is the antithesis of individualization.
      Transportation is a very significant cost. Most new single family starts are in the fast-growing warmer climates, like Arizona. One would have to have a plant close to the end use point to be economic; Baltimore is pretty far removed.

    • @leestevens446
      @leestevens446 3 года назад +1

      @@markpalmer5311 Final thought, which I failed to put back in previous reply and subsequent edit (see above):
      Nothing about Blueprint suggests it is a bad product, on the contrary. The crux of the matter is market acceptance, and that revolves around money and human resistance to change. Probable also, finding the right geography and niche.

  • @plumbbuild6517
    @plumbbuild6517 3 года назад +10

    Just wondering if the walls are already insulated and sealed how do they get the electrical wiring and outlets and switches in the walls, we always have all kinds of wiring in exterior walls, let me know if you can and thanks Matt for sharing this video

    • @AWJacksonJr
      @AWJacksonJr 3 года назад +2

      This reminds me of SIP panel building and I know for SIP panels they run the holes for the electrical wire so the electrican just has to run the wire on site inside the panels.

    • @zakiducky
      @zakiducky 3 года назад +2

      I believe the owner of the company mentioned something about a service cavity within the panel. But it is an interesting question.

    • @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532
      @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532 3 года назад +2

      These walls will receive a 1.5” service cavity on the interior, and the home will also have furred down ceilings. Stay tuned for todays video showing an installed home!

  • @joshuategeler3419
    @joshuategeler3419 3 года назад +3

    I work for a company that designs and builds wall panels as well. My only concern with the floor panels is if the foundation is not square or have straight walls. The panels are designed in a "perfect" world in the software but the field is never perfect. This could cause issues with gap tolerance for the hangers if they are pre-installed.

    • @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532
      @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532 3 года назад +1

      Definitely one of the challenges is tolerances on site. The entire project team needs to be on board from day one with the panel manufacturing company. Site checks are performed by the panel manufacturer prior to install also. You’re right though, things need to be pretty bang on!

  • @TheJasonbking
    @TheJasonbking 3 года назад +7

    I'd be interested to see the cost -- I liked the idea of going panelized, but when I looked at it, the quote (obviously not from this company) for just the panels + windows was over 2x the cost of building the entire house (with all the finishes) conventionally. While I'm sure the panelized version would be quite airtight and well insulated, I could use something like aerobarrier 10x over, quadruple the amount of insulation, and still be ahead with the conventionally built solution.

    • @steven7650
      @steven7650 3 года назад

      Yes but the entire house is 3d modeled, all your conflicts in utilities should be worked out there. That's where you builder spends tons of time. Those walls if they have electrical in them are perfectly square and plumb and go up in 5 days I'd bet or less for an entire house. With a truss roof system I'd bed you're dried in with under 5 days labor and you're already insulated.

    • @TheJasonbking
      @TheJasonbking 3 года назад

      @@steven7650 Yeah, but is that worth paying over 2x the cost of a conventional custom build? In my instance, I was looking at $400,000 total (custom build, built in a conventional manner) vs $700,000 for only the panels + windows (so no foundation, no electrical, no plumbing, no finishing of any sort, and no labor -- so easily another $100,000 if I'm being _extremely_ charitable). Even if the tolerances of the panelized solution were less than the width of a human hair, I don't know that it justifies such a huge premium.

    • @steven7650
      @steven7650 3 года назад

      @@TheJasonbking That's kind of my point, your team labor should be much less as is your build time. Is the overall house cost more or just the frame? 1 engineer for a few weeks should be a lot cheaper than a framing, sheathing, insulation, roughin etc.

  • @bwillan
    @bwillan 3 года назад

    Factory built wall panels is how all houses should be built. The end product will be a high quality, high performing product that won't cost any more than an onsite stick built house.

  • @MikeRobot
    @MikeRobot 3 года назад +12

    The only concern i have is the isolation in the walls. How will is settle over the years and are they installing anything to alleviate it?

    • @peterallen4605
      @peterallen4605 3 года назад +1

      One of many durability issues with this design. They don't care what the house will be in 20 years. They're throwing everything into getting that difficult "passive house" rating at the time of build, then they declare victory and walk away.

    • @alexclifford8961
      @alexclifford8961 3 года назад

      It should be pumped to a high pressure so it wont settle but not best practice to factory install as it can settle in transit and installation. It should be done on site and then core samples taken to check it.

    • @samplumbe3288
      @samplumbe3288 3 года назад

      Settling insulation has been a big problem in the UK. They now install it with a type of glue so it stays put.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 3 года назад +2

      Insulation packed properly at 3.5 lbs per cubic foot has nowhere to settle.

  • @Gippo50
    @Gippo50 3 года назад

    Awesome video.

  • @benjaminvivar7855
    @benjaminvivar7855 3 года назад

    Impressive!

  • @cyoungso
    @cyoungso 3 года назад

    They must have taken over the older modular home plant in Squamish that went under. Nice to see it.

  • @arzawood
    @arzawood 3 года назад +1

    Lo tec use hi tec...love it...

  • @justinmassecar9133
    @justinmassecar9133 3 года назад

    @9:57 lol propped open fire door!

  • @rossmcleod7983
    @rossmcleod7983 3 года назад +1

    Fab PreFab! No idea how you guys manage to use imperial measurements. Truly barbaric.

  • @adamjosephbliss
    @adamjosephbliss 3 года назад

    Matt, get that guy a BUILD coat 😉

  • @paul.tinsley
    @paul.tinsley 3 года назад

    Now that they have all the logistics of sourcing down they need to start investing in some efficiencies on the shop floor. A CNC chop saw would be a huge win.

    • @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532
      @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532 3 года назад

      Definitely next steps. Note sure if we mentioned this in the video but this shop is less than a year old!

    • @paul.tinsley
      @paul.tinsley 3 года назад

      @@purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532 everything takes time no question, wasn’t a criticism, I know how that goes. There are so many things in my business I know could be improved but don’t have the time or money to do all at once.
      I spent a few years in the manufacturing space focused on optimizing cycle time and reducing variability in the finished product so some of this stuff just screams at me when I see it :)
      Keep up the great work!

  • @christophergruenwald5054
    @christophergruenwald5054 3 года назад

    Let’s see one of these being assembled on site. Is it as simple as they claim. Nailing hangers to the rim joist over the top of a thick icf wall with the deck boards already installed sounds like a pita to me.

  • @alexclifford8961
    @alexclifford8961 3 года назад +1

    It is not normally recommended to factory fit cellulose insulation as it can settle and leave air pockets during transportation and installation even if it is pumped to pressure in the factory. The walls are surprisingly thin for cellulose insulation if they are wanting passive house and having timber the full thickness of the wall is quite a substancial thermal bridge in the house.

    • @malydok
      @malydok 3 года назад

      Isn't that outside sheathing layer enough of a thermal break for the studs?

    • @alexclifford8961
      @alexclifford8961 3 года назад +1

      @@malydok No. If that wall build up was modelled in PHPP for Passive House it wouldnt give great results.If the studs go full depth of the wall then 15-20% of the wall is going to be timber rather than insulation.

  • @johntocho8954
    @johntocho8954 3 года назад +2

    Excellent video! Where would we find someone like this in America? Thank you!

    • @toddcurtis1377
      @toddcurtis1377 3 года назад

      EcoCor in Maine, Amwood in Wisconsin are 2 examples. There are more, however.

  • @bolland83
    @bolland83 3 года назад

    That's cool and all, but how do they expect the electrical and plumbing to go in? Anything on an exterior wall is going to be a royal pain.

  • @TerryPower777
    @TerryPower777 3 года назад +1

    Very good Video thank you. Just wondering ....Is the newspaper insulation a greater fire risk?

  • @wizdumwifey
    @wizdumwifey 3 года назад

    Show idea .... can you detail if you need to use a certain shingle if your roof is foam insulated? If so what should we look for on packaging?

  • @tannernewton8543
    @tannernewton8543 3 года назад

    This is the future

  • @aknorth1053
    @aknorth1053 3 года назад

    Good luck on the live show

  • @AF-O6
    @AF-O6 3 года назад

    I like the concept if reliant on unskilled labor or to avoid bad weather. However, a skilled carpenter can build a structure with less than 1/16” tolerances for square/parallel/flat/plum, making the rest of building a pleasure rather than wrestling with the rest of the project.

  • @tedfritsch3340
    @tedfritsch3340 3 года назад +1

    I sure would like to see a video of an on site construction of one of these. Do they ship to the U.S.?

  • @leestevens446
    @leestevens446 3 года назад +2

    Specification creep is an industry term, at least in the commercial industrial segment. We used a set of allowances on plate length and stud cut height to to avoid this, along with a couple of other tricks. Kept us right on layout end-to-end, always. What do these guys do to address this issue??

    • @yzaw4411
      @yzaw4411 3 года назад

      I am very interest too for creep especially in cold climates.

    • @leestevens446
      @leestevens446 3 года назад

      @@yzaw4411 Has nothing to do with climate, temperature or humidity, or about movement of panels. It is about the problem of butting exactly sized panels or components together, and finding that the total assembled length is greater than the sum of the pieces. This is because it is physically impossible (in the real world) to force those components together infinitely tight. A twisted stud at the end of a panel can easily add 1/8", and this simply multiplies as you stack them up. What I have done, after years of this stuff, is to slightly undersize and or build adjustable ends into panels. Then, you stretch, as needed, the tiny fractions required, in order to stay on overall layout. Likewise, wall heights will be taller than the sum of the stud cut length plus the thickness of the three plates. We do a test assembly for each project, and check the added increment (specification creep) for the lumber we will be using, and then apply that as a deduct on all stud cut lengths for the actual work.
      For tract homes, no one cares about this, just beat it to fit, and don't care about anything; the painter will fill it with caulk. When you get to big and complicated projects, this is a real issue. Steel frame buildings are detailed in the same style, so that they do not "grow", otherwise it could get impossible to stay on the anchor bolt layout. This is where I picked up on the concept. But, it is highly applicable to wood-frame panelization, especially large (multifamily) projects.

  • @chineseredneck1211
    @chineseredneck1211 3 года назад

    How do they make sure the floor joists are the "right" length? We all know that joists are often "adjusted" on sight if the ledger board is slightly off

  • @L.Scott_Music
    @L.Scott_Music 3 года назад +1

    How are you managing lumber and panel prices these days?

  • @thebluelunarmonkey
    @thebluelunarmonkey 3 года назад +1

    why don't they load these walls directly onto a trailer? reduce the number of times they have to move the pieces? Is that fiber insulation board resistant to water? I remember Matt did a video on that flimsy cardboard sheathing used years ago that fails so easily.

  • @proenco2083
    @proenco2083 Год назад

    Amazing video! How are the walls bolted down to the foundation?

  • @ericscott3997
    @ericscott3997 2 года назад

    Why isn't there something like this located in the Upper/Midwest of the US?? You would think it would work here??

  • @samplumbe3288
    @samplumbe3288 3 года назад +3

    What software are they using? We are doing panels in the dark ages with my lot. Still in 2D with autocad

  • @IndyPhil
    @IndyPhil 3 года назад +1

    Matt, love your Build Show series and all your videos. I'm a regular viewer of all new content you put out.
    Since this episode covers Canada built homes and you build in Austin, is there a place (website, video, ETC) of what the best method of building and insulating according to each climate zone in North America? I'm in Indiana and we are kind of get a wide range of weather type here. Very cold and dry in the middle of winter and hot and humid in the summer.

  • @Real_Tech_Skills
    @Real_Tech_Skills 3 года назад +6

    Sorry guys, but I'm not impressed with the overall build, materials and end product manufactured by this company. Just my opinion.

    • @10tenman10
      @10tenman10 3 года назад

      I think this system is attractive. Good quality, predictible, and once you get going the construction should be pretty fast. I always wonder whether there is any significant savings which are passed along to the consumer.

    • @Darisiabgal7573
      @Darisiabgal7573 3 года назад

      Well having had to palm nail in joist hangers it takes more than a few minutes to attach the joist hanger to its support if you use the recommended galvanized nail, but I build in windstorm territory so the code requirements here maybe higher. Also, a lot of our lumber scrap on the job site was due to crappy wood that the lumber yard said “ just keep it”, and of course you use what you can and the rest goes into the dump trailer and to the dump.
      I don’t like their exterior board, it looks a lot like MDF and not very stable to moisture. Recycled new paper here after about 20 years compresses to about half its original thickness due to constant periods of high humidity, the occasional hurricane that blows warm moist air into the attic, and the activity of insects.
      I remmember when I reinsulated my attic I pushed the recycled newspaper out from the center of the attic, it filled between the ceiling joist 2x 8 about 4/5ths from the outside to the outside. IOW to get joist filling level of R25 insulation I need to add 4 parts new insulation for each part of recycled newspaper to fill between the joists. On top of that I added another level of r13.

    • @berndine1
      @berndine1 3 года назад

      @@10tenman10 here in Germany prefabed buildings are more expensive because you will get it much faster.

  • @user-jw3nn4wd9n
    @user-jw3nn4wd9n 3 года назад

    I "USE TO" build houses this way in the Madison, WI area. BUT, we only had the exterior 2x6, 2x4 interior and roof trusses built "in house" at a panelization company. We added mechanicals, insulation, windows and doors on site. I would simply hire a crane for a day (or two) and the house would normally be closed and dried in in one to two days! We've since moved to Austin, TX and I'm looking to find if there are any local panel manufacturers?? Really need to find ways of cutting costs!!!!!

    • @demendonca416
      @demendonca416 3 года назад

      Hey Gerldahundt. How did you attach those prefabed framed walls to the foundation?

  • @steven7650
    @steven7650 3 года назад

    I'm surprised they didn't run conduit for electrical that you could link together.

  • @markbuildstx
    @markbuildstx 3 года назад +3

    I just got a bid for my house. 4044 sq ft... $55k for walls and trusses in south Texas. YIKES!!

    • @augustreil
      @augustreil 3 года назад

      Why so big ? I'm thinking 1300ft ?

    • @NashtheImmortal
      @NashtheImmortal 3 года назад

      really?!

    • @markbuildstx
      @markbuildstx 3 года назад +1

      @@augustreil ummm. Because it’s Texas and I’ll be living on 5 acres.

    • @augustreil
      @augustreil 3 года назад +1

      @@markbuildstx, If that's what you want and need, then it's all good by me !! That's why we live in America, right ?? !!!!

    • @harrytanase1587
      @harrytanase1587 3 года назад +2

      Try concrete blocks. Will be a hurricane proof house too.

  • @yobrevol1788
    @yobrevol1788 3 года назад

    In the U.S. you will see restrictions spied that say " sites built homes only" does this method meet criteria as a site built home, just wandering if anyone in the comments has dealt with this?

  • @studiowebselect
    @studiowebselect 3 года назад +2

    I build my house with panel like this and i wont do again. Yes the are build inside but the wait outise at the rain with the isolation. Also you still nee to put foreins bettween each panel. so its almost the same time as to do it completly. You will need to use a lot of tape to be air-tight between panel.

  • @robertdean9392
    @robertdean9392 3 года назад

    Matt, very impressive but don't like the shredded newsprint being used for insulation. Possible moisture problem with that medium in high humidity levels in the southern United States. Another thing, I would hate to see transportation cost as well as the import tax to bring it into the United States.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 3 года назад

      Cellulose is better in high humidity situations because it can hold a significant amount of moisture without growing mold, whereas fiberglass and mineral wood can hold none. If you use the latter, the moisture that would otherwise be in the cellulose would be in the studs, drywall, or wood paneling.

  • @DingoAteMeBaby
    @DingoAteMeBaby 3 года назад

    Why would you smell the insulation? It has VOC additives, and you can tell the owner gave him a weird look

  • @benwhittle7204
    @benwhittle7204 3 года назад

    Now..... if they could do this with T-Stud......

  • @bobbj177
    @bobbj177 3 года назад +1

    Canadian Bensonwood, eh?

  • @strykerace
    @strykerace 3 года назад +2

    recycled newspaper is highly flammable. Not sure about that choice.

    • @malydok
      @malydok 3 года назад +1

      Maybe by itself but it's not the only ingredient in this insulation here.
      Search for "SOPRA-CELLULOSE", they've plenty of info and certifications.

    • @mikegrant8490
      @mikegrant8490 3 года назад +1

      ASTM requirements for flame spread are constantly revised. The additives make it much safer. More bug proof, less flammable.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 3 года назад

      Not when's shredded, treated with flame retardants, and dense-packed within an in of its life.

  • @jmartlncln
    @jmartlncln 3 года назад +2

    I've never seen that software they were modeling the framing with before.. any idea what that was? Very cool tour by the way!

    • @richspence
      @richspence 3 года назад +1

      there are couple cad programs out there. Mitek has one. He mentions the exact one hes use in another interview on yt.

    • @jmartlncln
      @jmartlncln 3 года назад

      @@richspence Thanks. Ya the Mitek Sapphire looks like a little bit different interface, but similar function. I’ll check through their other videos to see if I can find where they mention it. Thanks!

  • @mediagiant1
    @mediagiant1 Год назад

    is anyone doing this on the east coast of the US or CA?

  • @UNBOUNDED-zq9ul
    @UNBOUNDED-zq9ul Год назад

    Are there any FACTORIES like this in the U.S.

  • @pepestevecalvo
    @pepestevecalvo 3 года назад

    The 3d modeling is done by Revit or Autocad?

  • @SteveP-vm1uc
    @SteveP-vm1uc 3 года назад

    What is the finish on the interior paneling? What needs to be done to complete the interior finished wall panels??

    • @99beta
      @99beta 3 года назад

      BC is in a seismic zone so solid wood panelling is required for structure support. Drywall would be added to the inside for fire code.

  • @MikeCris
    @MikeCris 3 года назад +1

    I like this concept...but does the homeowner save any money?

    • @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532
      @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532 3 года назад

      Cost savings come from on site labour, management fees, and schedule efficiencies. Hard to calculate, and usually needs to be looked at from a project by project bases unfortunately

  • @VRtechman
    @VRtechman 3 года назад

    The panels seem too wide to fit on Flatbed trucks! 😬

  • @BioStuff415
    @BioStuff415 3 года назад +2

    whenever I price using prefab construction - it's 40$ more per sq ft.

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  3 года назад

      Seems pretty good

    • @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532
      @purehausdevelopmentsinc.7532 3 года назад

      Cost savings come from on site labour, management fees, and schedule efficiencies. Hard to calculate, and usually needs to be looked at from a project by project bases

  • @journalsofathirddensitytra3498
    @journalsofathirddensitytra3498 2 года назад

    What software is used for this?

  • @DavidRonnemo
    @DavidRonnemo 3 года назад +1

    Why do people use Premiere instead of schedule when releasing youtube videos?

    • @colinstu
      @colinstu 3 года назад +4

      because they hate their subscribers? I wanna think RUclips has them under NDA and they pay them extra to use this terrible feature, but that has yet to be proven!

    • @suavocado69
      @suavocado69 3 года назад +1

      The premiere function is to let subscribers know a video is dropping at X time. Matt releases videos on Tuesdays and Fridays typically. His active subs wouldn't expect a video today, so the premiere is helpful.

    • @colinstu
      @colinstu 3 года назад +2

      @@suavocado69 I'm active and get notified about it though. And here I am unable to watch it. That and this is going live today anyways.

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  3 года назад +1

      This is a first for me guys, normally we drop at 5pm Tues & Friday. Let's see how it goes.

    • @suspicionofdeceit
      @suspicionofdeceit 3 года назад

      I agree, see no purpose or reason for the premieres trend.

  • @stephens2850
    @stephens2850 3 года назад

    Do they install the windows in the factory?

  • @Nathalie6425
    @Nathalie6425 3 года назад

    Would something like that exist in Quebec?

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 3 года назад +2

    What is knewspayper? Some extinct dinosaur? Need to insulate with k-cups and amazon mailing envelopes.

  • @lmars5933
    @lmars5933 3 года назад

    😎

  • @harrytanase1587
    @harrytanase1587 3 года назад

    There are any houses factories in US?

  • @johnwhite2576
    @johnwhite2576 3 года назад

    Ok how do you join these panels together ??

  • @veturikk
    @veturikk 3 года назад

    Do you have anyone like this serving SF Bay Area?

  • @PhotonHerald
    @PhotonHerald 3 года назад +1

    Fiberboard sheathing?
    NO THANK YOU!
    No builder I know what use fiberboard.
    It could be the best fiberboard in the universe, and they wouldn't trust it.

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  3 года назад +1

      It has Plywood interior sheathing... that's not fiberboard it's a wood fiber sheet insulation to break the thermal bridge at the studs. Saw it all over Europe. Promotes outward drying in a cold climate. Then the sheet housewrap is placed over top.

    • @PhotonHerald
      @PhotonHerald 3 года назад

      @@buildshow Maybe. Just a LOT of people out there with a REALLY bad taste in their mouth for anything even resembling fiberboard.

  • @pwr-mfg3550
    @pwr-mfg3550 3 года назад

    No offense, that guy is the verbal version of watching paint dry.

  • @OtterRose1
    @OtterRose1 3 года назад

    Is the newspaper insulation chemically treated (boric acid, sodium borate, etc.)? Is this so common that the video doesn't mention the obvious? Even IF it is common, there are several kinds of treatments so wouldn't the manufacturer want folks to know which treatments are being used?

  • @boedillard8807
    @boedillard8807 3 года назад

    I hear that 2x4's are selling for about 5x what they were a year ago. Is it that expensive in Canada?

    • @rob6870
      @rob6870 3 года назад +1

      Maybe 3x in Canada. 2x4x8 was $3-4, now $9

    • @BGTech1
      @BGTech1 3 года назад +1

      The wood prices are crazy high

    • @99beta
      @99beta 3 года назад

      Pulp and paper industry is expanding again. Plastic products are slowly being banned in Canada due to micro plastic levels in fish. We do have a lot of lakes to take care of.

  • @anthonymichaelmaui3432
    @anthonymichaelmaui3432 3 года назад

    Awesome 👌

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  3 года назад +1

      Hope you'll join me for live chat...

    • @anthonymichaelmaui3432
      @anthonymichaelmaui3432 3 года назад +1

      @@buildshow yes of course I'm a carpenter framer and finisher from Hawaii... I absolutely love learning about so many different ways of building I see on your channel...the standard way we frame here in Hawaii is your basic stick framing but because of our seasonal hurricanes here we are required to put titans every 18 inches on the exterior walls and hold downs in every doorway and window plus the hurricane straps with 16 Galvies talk about a work out on the arm lol 😆

  • @thesevenscars
    @thesevenscars 3 года назад

    They need an operation in the lower 48. I’d love to build a home this way.

  • @aumauanufe
    @aumauanufe 3 года назад

    Wheres Matt?

  • @csvscs
    @csvscs 3 года назад +6

    Seems like a fire hazard to fill your walls with newspaper....

    • @InsidiousPlague
      @InsidiousPlague 3 года назад +6

      typically treated with a fire retardant

    • @napalmholocaust9093
      @napalmholocaust9093 3 года назад +3

      Borax is put in for that.

    • @zakiducky
      @zakiducky 3 года назад

      You’d be surprised how many homes are built with paper faced insulation batts in the walls. Those things _really_ go up in flames! This can’t be much worse on its own, but likely even safer with the fire retardants mixed in.

    • @kenreynolds1000
      @kenreynolds1000 3 года назад +1

      Blown cellulose is very typical in the PNW. cheap and does well in the mild climate.

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 3 года назад

      Fire retardant + dense packing + surrounded by wood studs = no heat and no oxygen for a fire.

  • @nephimitchell
    @nephimitchell 3 года назад

    GOOD BYE THIS OLD HOUSE!!

  • @nevermindthebull0cks
    @nevermindthebull0cks 3 года назад

    All the trailers and cheap modular homes being built are just wasting material. Changing this would make a huge impact in energy usage.

  • @DozIT
    @DozIT 3 года назад

    Why on earth wood is used for these “solutions” baffles me