I Spent $6,000 So You Dont Have To. Most Overrated?? Knights SR15 vs Daniel Defense DDM4V7!
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- In today's video, we discuss the most Overrated rifle comparing the Knight's Armament SR15 vs the Daniel Defense DDM4V7. Watch til the end and put your choice for the most Overrated in the comments!
#danieldefense #knightsarmament
#ddm4v7 #sr-15 #guns #overrated
Something to consider KAC went through a 20k round torture test with only lube and ZERO jams or malfunctions. I don't know if any other Manufactue can say the same. Many SOF units use both DD and KAC. Both are top tier, I like KAC and DD... If I had to pick one it would be KAC, Both would be even better.
I think DD is overpriced honestly, a BCM would be the same quality if not a better quality for half the price but where KAC shines is their gas system is so fine tuned it’s like a sewing machine with very good recoil management and they’re durable asf. You could beat the shit out of a KAC and it would still run!
They lied , they lubed it … and dident tell you
I 100% agree with you @Phantom8589 DD is most definitely a go to war rifle! I’m also speaking from experience after doing 16 before being medically discharged do to a broke back. But not my point what I was gonna say is I myself was attached to a SOF Unit (will not give that info on which SOF Teams I’ve been attached to) but a lot of our guys ran DD or KAC but everyone always spoke highly of their Daniel Defense MK18 and I myself got to use bot KAC and Daniel Defense and I’m gonna go DD all day everyday cause it’s actually been truly tested in a in the middle of a War! Now that I’m out I have a 16’ Daniel Defense DDM4v7 Factory Custom where only 300 were made!
@@nomad0395 Agreed. I almost went DD. I have loved their products for years. However, I decided that they charge too much and that BCM actually gives you equal build quality for less money. Plus BCM is a more ethical company that hasn't sold 2A customers out. People tend to go with the default statement, "you get what you pay for." That is not automatically correct. Because, companies tend to see how much people are willing to pay for perceived better quality/performance etc. Just because something is expensive does not mean people are not getting ripped off for some immeasurable diminishing return. Sorry, I got carried away...
I just bought a DDM4V7 with the MagPul flip up back up irons, DD hand guard grips, vertical foregrip and the Geissele SSA trigger for $1900 out the door. I’m very pleased with it.
Nice find! I too just picked up the “DDM4V7 SLW Rattlecan Arid” boom stick. I really wish they had longer more complicated names for their firearms, 😂! Love it. Not the biggest fan of the paint job but that’s an easy fix. I firmly believe you get what you pay for and when you find a deal on these, strike hard and fast with your cold hard money. Cheers
Picked up a used one with an sig optic and less than 100 rounds through it for $1600. Feel like I got ripped off now.
@1:50 I always wondered about DD putting the vg all the way out on the handguard, but found out they do that purposely so it forces the end user to put it where it's most comfortable for them
Wow, that totally makes sense. I may borrow that info for a video if you don't mind.
Jokes on them. I'm 6 and a half feet tall, and it's perfect there.
I’ve been told by my gun guy that when he toured the DD factory the racks where they store the guns are shaped so that the forgrip needs to be at that extreme forward position for the rifles to stack properly.
Seems unlikely and made up theory. That's no different then just putting the foregrip in the box. Use your brain people
Got many AR’s. But my DD identical to model and color he is showing in video I many times better than any of my others. The quality is great. Shoots like a dream. Accuracy is excellent. Plan on getting at least one more.
Funny.. I steered away from KAC and just bought a SOCOM-DDM4 V7 about 6 hours ago. :)
Personally I’d just take a DD as it’s a solid starting platform. Slap in some geissele internals and have an absolute kick ass rifle for less than 3k.
I have several DD M4 V7 rifles and really enjoy them, great showing guns that are reliable as any. That said I replaced the triggers right away with Timney triggers that are far superior to the stock one that comes the box.
Agreed. That Timmerman it the Ruger makes it so nice to shoot.
Unpopular topic. The Aero lasted longer in a full auto test, with a round count around 600 to 700, the KAC round count was 500……
The sr 15 has a pencil like barrel designed to be light weight. Not meant for sustained full auto.
@@Silentskip001 I get the reason why, but if I have to change the barrel. Why spend the money on one? Geissele makes a great rifle that I don’t have to change anything. But if weight is an issue I guess that’s the gun for you. Having cool gear is cool and everything but if you can’t hike 8 miles with 55 pounds of gear, it’s worthless
PSA Sabre may not even be considered in a comparison of these giants but at least it has a radian raptor and some other cool upgrades. That aside, thanks for the video!
After seeing your video, I'd go Daniel Defense for sure. For Knights, those things you mentioned aren't worth the price, imho.
The Knights is still the flattish shooting g rifle I own. Their duracoat sucks, for sure. They make up for it in shooting experience.
I love your videos keep up the good work
Glad you like them!
I have the DDM4 V7 PRO 18 and I love it.
Ive heard about DD, Ive never shot one so I can't really speak on it. But I shot multiple custom and high end rifles. One rifle that I wont call out the company as I still like them. I have their 13.9 that just shoots so soft and can go. But the downside if you are going for sub MOA it wants higher grain bullets and a muzzle break. Then when I suppress it I have clean after each range day with my Dead Air Suppressor. I called the company explained this and they said the same thing all the other high end companies said. Use a Hux works flow through. BUT, with my Knights i don't have that problem. It is almost no gas to the face and zero gas unsupressed. So no timing the gas block. Then I put in another bolt and it still shot fine unlike popular belief. It also ate ALL the different ammo with no major gas. Long story short I am out of the market in buying a new rifle
You get what you pay for. Most times...
Never had a KAC but i have DD and still grab my BCM ELW most the time. My favorite by far. With geissele trigger and geissele super 42 with H2 buffer. Super light and still very soft shooting.
Thought about getting a MCMR BFH ELW upper for my next rifle but I really don’t like how geissele uses set screws for the gas blocks when we know pinning is better. Because of that, I think I’m gonna go with the geissele super duty upper because it’s basically the exact same everything except SD has a pinned gas block. Both are DI, taper protein barrels, CHF CL, MLOK handguards.
@@9770G I've had both BCM and Geissele uppers. Both are great. For some reason I like the BCM a little bit more even thought the Geissele is more refined. I feel like the BCM is a tiny bit more indestructible, but that could just be my experience. Both are reliable and accurate. The Geissele shot a little bit flatter and ran better and less gassy with a YHM Turbo T2 without any tuning necessary.
I'm looking at buying either of these two!! Great video!
Thanks man! Enjoy whichever one you pick!
Agreed 100% about the KAC. I never had a full rifle but I've done some builds with parts. In the last few years the prices have gone through the roof. I remember those rear iron sights used to be $40 all day long.
Where the $40 sights new inbox from a retailer or from an eBay seller who stripped them from his military issued rifle.
I’ll tell you what’s the most underrated thing , training ! You can spend all this money on these GREAT rifles , but if you don’t know what your doing that guy with the $800 m&p 15 and $3000 in training is gonna love your loot drop . I’m just sayin
Well said.
So true, can have 30 awesome rifles, all worthless if you suck with them or you fail when it counts. Great gun for the next guy if you're dead.
Nah my pockets deep and my training time deeper. Nobody looting here😂😂😂
@@sshambles5480 you never know. Everyone's skill level is different and some can get the job done with much less. Keep training 💪
One look at his shell deflector will tell you all you need to know about his level of training. #liability #fud
I don't have a Knights rife, but the DDM4 V7 is fantastic and absolutely worth the money for me. It has been reliable, accurate, and it is light. Cannot ask for more out of a rifle. Also, I don't mind the mil-spec trigger that seems to bother many. Truth be told, most rifles are great rifles. It really just depends on what you prefer in both form and function.
I've swapped out the mil-spec trigger w/ a fostech echo and slapped a can on my ddm4 v7 and let me tell you.... you simply MUST try it! Almost no recoil or sound with my wolfman can and the DD is the perfect length to absorb most recoil. And as you no doubt know, the accuracy from a DD is superb! Double-tap bliss!
No ambi lower for 2 grand is my only problem with Daniel defense
@shanebarnes8830 You can catch Daniel Defense uppers on sale for around $1000 and get a really good premade lower for around $500 or build your own lower with a Geiselle Trigger and quality parts for around $450.
I just got my DD M4V7 Black 2024. I paid $1450 with 30% discount from my USCCA membership. I absolutely love this rifle. I got an aim point micro T2 red dot. Man it’s accurate from 25 yards to 100 yards, aiming dead center.
I gotta say, I bought a damn PSA complete upper and I can’t be persuaded away from. It has an FN CL CHF barrel (13.7”) with a mid-length ADJUSTABLE gas system with 7075 m-lok rail with qd points. Now, I swapped out the bcg for an np3’d sionics and a radian sd finished in np3’d slide with black aluminum grips…I can say the microbest bcg and radian lt (polymer grips) ain’t all that bad and really could be used forever without swapping. For coming from a manufacturer trying to get away from that “cheap ass” branding of the past…this is all I wanted in a rifle (btw its 13.7” with a pin&welded j-mac “keymo” 4 prong flash hider…making it a legal total of 16”) ….if you want to stamp it you could either remove the pin and weld and direct mount your k-can….or do like me and swap it for the xeno birdcage @ 2.16” to make it a c-hair short and have a qd mount for can. I am going with the xeno….I don’t think I’ll be persecuted over a 1/4” considering it will wear it’s can 99.9% of its life. For the price….$799….you can get the completed lower for $249…..I got a battle ready under $1k. I also grabbed an iwi Zion 15 in 12.5 for a pistol @ $850. These will be my only 2 and I will compare.
I was thinking about getting the psa Sabre with fn barrel and the geissele parts or just buying a geissele super duty
@@TheJoeml85either you ain’t regret tbh get the duty if you can wait though
You’ll see why when you shoot it
I have a couple DD rifles and I love them. Switched out to the Geisselle SD-E triggers right away tho. Also have a Blackout Defense that is badass too.
Little tinkering with your spring/buffer and add a riflespeed or POF adj gas block and that DD will shoot just as well if not better than the KAC with no proprietary parts.
I may look into that.
I sold my Knights and Scar 16 and bought a LWRC, PWS, and a SOLGW and had money left over. I'm not in to the high dollar "Tier 1" rifles anymore. I did buy a DD Mk12 years ago that came from the factory with a loose gas block. The set screws were thread lok'd and weren't even touching the barrel.
Unfortunatetly, even the most expensive firearms are made by people . But they usually have fantastic warranties, so it offsets the risk of a poorly built gun.
Well you definitely talked me out of the Knights... Guess I'll go for the Daniel... Man that Cerakote is visibly crappy on that knights...
What iron sights are you running on the DDM4?
I have a Block 2 m4 style DD and its a nice rifle and their barrels are extremely high quality. Also it seems like they're not anywhere near as overgassed as they used to be. Now they're very smooth with full power ammo mine ejects at a perfect 3 o clock and thats with a regular carbine buffer.
Knights is NOTORIOUS for finish issues and quite frankly you got lucky its not worse. I've seen guys have KAC stuff that clearly was thrown onto the ground on a hard edge and then put in a box. The reason thats an issue is because they're sending out "seconds", like stuff that gets returned for warranty, or stuff that was outright rejected from contracts.
But even then it doesn't make a lot of sense. Everyone says KAC is a bigtime government contractor. But...what contracts do they actually have? They have a railed handguard for the m4a1, the m110(which is more just servicing existing guns than building new ones at this point), and they still make the NT4 for the USMC. Other than that...I don't understand why they can't manage to get guns out the door like other large companies. Damn near everytime they've put a gun up for a contract bid in the last 10 years they've lost to a product thats either just as good(like an LMT) or better at a lower pricepoint.
FN makes the M4A1, the M16A4, the M249, M240B, and every variation of the M240 oh and they make the LMGs/GPMGs for literally every NATO country and nobody ever says "man I wish this FN stuff wasn't so over priced but they just have all those contracts they gotta fill so us civis can't get them!"
The scar is certainly overpriced
And the FN m4 have a seemingly endless problem of eating gas rings.
But they run well otherwise
@@El_Peto True about the scar. I forgot about it when writing the comment above. The scar is extremely over priced.
I have the DD4V7 and I love it!! Their 2A stance sucks, but their riffles are amazing!!! I will say that for the price, they should come with a better trigger.
Yup. They ought to be ashamed for the trigger that put in that gun.
I have a couple DD rifles and pistols, I changed all of the triggers, after the first time I fired one of them.
How do you order a Kights armorment. What is the lead time 11 months?
Daniel Defense all the way.... DD Fixed Irons, Aimpoint/Magnifier, M600 Flashlight and Perst 4 Laser, dream build.
I like both! I have the same ddm4
Thank u sir for the video, thorough an fair. Definitely a DD fan
I like DD but when I bought my MK12 5-6 years ago I had to change out everything you changed out on your Knights. It did come with a Geiselle trigger though.
ADM UIC 13.9” Core hands down is the winner… DD RIS3 is nice though but still prefer the ADM.
Exactly. I love my ADM, definitely a sleeper that can go toe to toe with any of the big boys
The ADM UIC is freaking great, but have you shot a 14.5 KAC SR15? It runs like a sewing machine. There's nothing else like it. Its freakin voodoo magic. I have a Criterion CORE on my 11.5 and 13.9 and I love that barrel though.
It’s funny, because The Daniel Defense has the grip out way far and it’s just perfect for my spider arms
Daniel Defense has a new owner now and A LOT of the guys that work there are Veterans! Yes the old owners Politics weren’t good that’s for sure but new guy is a VET and a lot of workers again are VETS. I know this do to me and my Brother-In-Law who was in the Air Force as a TAC P got to meet the new owner and a lot of the VETS that work there. It was a fu***ng blast and getting to actually have a machinist show me some of the ropes of building some rifles actually got to make a complete upper and brought it home with me. One I got to build or shown to build I went with a DDM4v7 Factory Custom which they had only made 300 of the DDM4v7 Factory Customs and I liked to look and feel of the Factory Custom and so got to build number 301 which was pretty kick ass!
subbed. youtube did me right and recommended your channel
as they may be overrated i would love to own either one because they will hold value.
i bet they are better than the colt stuff i have which was considered the gold standard for a long time.
i recently picked up some geissele uppers and i really like them. the blem deals helped a lot.
id like to sell off some bca and psa stuff so someone else can enjoy them now and complete a build and help me fund some ir stuff so i can start to enjoy that world.
have some custom builds im going to keep.
i LOVE compatibility so i move lights, optics, and slings around all the time.
I'm so glad to know that RUclips recommended the channel! I was starting to wonder if I was just yelling into the abyss. Lol
@@dadbodoperator2466 about time they did something right lol!
You should do a good lpvo and a piggyback dot on the knights.
I build mine. I did spend about $1200 to $1400 on each one, before sighting systems, but I'll trust my life to them. They are like Legos for adults. They are not hard to build.
I do like your videos, and those are both very nice rifles. I enjoyed watching.
Thanks man! I gotta learn to build one day.
@@dadbodoperator2466 Start by taking many pictures of the inside of one of your lowers. Then take it all apart for a super thorough cleaning. Carefully put it all back together. BAM you can build one. It's really just like Legos.
@@jhutch1470 installing a lower parts kit is not building
@@rmk1999 Oh, I forgot, You haven't "built" a car engine until you've sand cast your own intake. You haven't "Built" a house until you've cut down your own trees and sawed them into 2x4s.
My bad.
@@thejoatmoo So, you've never built one?
I have a dv7 but did modify. I would buy almost any other brand but can't stomach over 3gs for ar15
Both rifles are amazing! They run! Its difficult to see how any operator could justity the extra spend for Knights. John Wick maybe.
over the years i have had many different Ar15's....I have owned both the 11.5 CQB and the 14.5. there is no better shooting imo. i bought the uppers only though...just pair it with an LMT ambi lower...GTG
Bang for buck, the DDM4 V7 is a fantastic firearm.
Own 2 m4v7's and was able to get a smoking deal on a KAC sr-15 with a 14.5 I have not touched the Daniel Defense since both good rifles but the KAC just shoots better. Honestly though if you're not a gun snob though I have diamond back and dpms and some old bushmasters that shoot just fine and are great rifles it's all in what you want to pay they are all good guns if you want to tinker a giessle trigger makes a world of difference on a low end ar
I’ve owned all God tier ar15s and ar10s. Through thousands of rounds and making a pick to keep one of each flavor I kept the KAC SR15 14.5 mod2 e3 chrome bolt carbine w/sandcutter bcg and the HK MR762 LRP iii. Both got g$ triggers. Unfortunately for extra parts the bolt and associated parts are proprietary so that was pricey to have back ups. Both rifles are amazing. Only thing that’s failed was the bolt forward assist pin on the HK. Easy fix. However based on everything I had I’d say a nice BCM is where to spend your hard earned money for ar15s under 2k. Can’t say enough good things about Aero for the price point. SCARs are trash. The sr25 was highly over rated and very heavy. The B&T apc223 & 300 were great but not worth the money. I do still have a rattler and mcx virtus but other than that if SHTF I have a few rifles to chuck in the Land Cruiser and head up north. Happy hunting!
I have ~2000 rounds on both sr15/dd m4a1.
They are both amazing but KAC is much smoother to shoot
Considering the number of truly high end/premium options we have in todays AR15 market such as Blackout Defense, Mega Arms/Zev, Icon Defense, Radian, ADM, Hodge Defense, Cobalt Kinetics, PWS, Q, etc. there’s no way in hell I would ever buy a gun that was built on a basic ass “mil-spec” non-ambi forged receiver set, with a basic ass “mil-spec” phosphate BCG, a basic ass “mil-spec” trigger, and a basic ass “mil-spec” A2 birdcage flash hider, for anything even approaching $3k. But at least the KAC has some innovative features going for it like the ambi controls, the sandcutter BCG with a proprietary bolt that has rounded lugs which are supposed to help prevent them from shearing off, a nice set of BUIS, a QD 3-prong flash hider or MAMS muzzle device, a proprietary gas block and gas system, and a proprietary barrel nut and rail mounting interface (to be fair, DD has that last one too, but I think you get my point). Both are definitely overrated, but DD is more overrated than KAC by a LONG SHOT.
The KAC is not fully ambi, it doesn’t have a bolt catch lever on the right side, only a bolt release. LWRC & LMT have fully ambi lowers.
Touche. I'll make sure and differentiate better in future videos.
that's why i have an LMT lower on my SR15 upper.
BCM $400 lower from Brownells and on Primary Arms 12% off sale 16” upper BFH (CHF) Midlength gas for $700, $189 for BCM BCG and if you want a Radian Raptor its $85 ish and Geissele SSA on sale for $150 = total $1500ish for equal or BETTER parts/performance - PASS on both DD and KAC
I agree completely. My BCM continues to be my go to over my others
Does the safety on the DD get in the way? Seems a bit too long, but I can't tell.
Nah, not really. It can rub a bit if your index finger gets too high, but I don't notice it much.
"yea help" lolz
In my opinion, both rifles are way overpriced. (Even though I own two DD) After watching countless youtube videos comparing both high-end rifles against low-end rifles. To me, it honestly doesn’t matter. Just a long the rifle goes bang when I need it too. Which is why I respect your modified Ruger (even though you upgraded it to a $2k rifle) lol. It just shows that a basic rifle can last and still do the job, just like a high-end one
Spending $3k plus just to add on minor modifications is just flat-out outrageous. And should have been done by the manufacturer the first time. Knights, damn sure should have asss kicking customer service if i’m spending that type of money on a rifle. It better not break as well lol
But I will say, I do admire the fact you went out of your way to add what you wanted to add to make the rifle better to your liking.
Thans man. I'm disappointed in the Knights, until I shoot it. Then I get it. Still hard to say it's $1,400 better than the Ruger tho.
@@dadbodoperator2466 ..’Ruger’..?
I put together a DDM4v7 together for $1,100 in 2010 back when DD was still selling complete factory lowers. Hell of a carbine for the money F the haters.
And if I had to choose between Knights or FN I would rather go with BG Defense/ 10.5 Contractor over $3300.
I have own "DD M4A1, 14.5 RIS II" for three years now. No complaints at all. Eats everything (premium, mid, regular, s*it). No babysitting. Only parts I have changed are buttstock and pistol grip (good quality, no beard, still not for me). It is only my SUBJECTIVE opinion.
KAC is cool… right BUT , their parts don’t fit in regular mill spec rifles, you can’t go get a sand cutter bolt and put it in your normal bcg, you can’t run a barrel and just put it in your AR, they all have special crap done to it different sizes, blah blah blah, and it drives me crazy because I want a nice armor barrel on a build
A Comprehensive Review of the Knights Armament SR-15 Rifle: Features, Quality Control, Shooting Experience, and Customer Service, Compared to the Daniel Defense DDM4 V7
🔫 In this video, the host discusses the most overrated firearms in his collection - the Daniel Defense ddm4 V7 and the Knights Armament sr15.
00:00
The host breaks down each rifle and discusses their features and politics.
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He mentions that he personally likes both rifles.
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The Daniel Defense ddm4 V7 has a 16-inch barrel and a lightweight design.
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It features a 18-inch M lock MFR handguard and steel inserts for QD spots.
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The rifle has a 7075 T6 aluminum upper and lower.
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😕 The video discusses the features and downsides of the Knights Armament SR-15 rifle.
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The rifle has a high-quality hammer forged chrome lined barrel with a three prong flash hider and a Knights Armament suppressor mount.
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It has a reliable proprietary operating system and a 15-inch M lock handguard with slots for accessories.
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The rifle does not come with sights, but the reviewer added Defiance backup iron sights.
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The rifle is fully ambidextrous with a bolt catch and release, safety selector, and mag release on both sides.
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The included Magpul grip and stock are of poor quality and had to be upgraded.
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The charging handle was also replaced with a Radiant Raptor for better performance.
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Overall, the rifle is expensive and comes with some disappointing furniture, but it has good features.
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🔫 The reviewer discusses the features, quality control issues, shooting experience, and customer service of the Knights Armament SR-15 rifle.
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The rifle comes with a Knights Armament two-stage trigger, which is of good quality and worth around $250-300 if purchased separately.
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The cerakote finish on the rifle has durability issues, with wear and flaking off after minimal use.
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The shooting experience is excellent, despite the quality control issues, with a recoil impulse that surpasses expectations.
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Upgrades like the LMT shop mod stock, grip ready, and Raptor charging handle are recommended if budget allows.
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Knights Armament is known for being a government contractor and may prioritize government contracts over customer service.
09:45
The reviewer praises Daniel Defense for their exceptional customer service.
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The reviewer hopes that if they ever have to engage with Knights Armament's customer service, it will be a positive experience.
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🔫 The video discusses the overrated aspects of the Knights Armament sr15 and compares it to the Daniel Defense ddm4 V7.
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The Knights Armament sr15 is considered overrated due to the need for multiple upgrades and the high price.
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The video suggests that Knights should have included better grips and stocks or at least a BCM upgrade.
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The cerakote finish and shooting experience do not justify the extra cost of the Knights Armament sr15.
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The video compares the Knights Armament sr15 to the Daniel Defense ddm4 V7.
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The Knights Armament sr15 is considered the most overrated of the two rifles according to the video creator's opinion.
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Viewers are encouraged to share their opinions on which rifle they consider to be more overrated.
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The video thanks long-term viewers for their support and encourages new viewers to join the 'dad boss Squad'.
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Wow, I feel like you put more work into the review of the review than I did the review!
DDM4 V7 is a great gun. I've never used a KAC
My man. You didn’t even mention the main advantages to the KAC. Rounded lugs on the bolt prevent shearing. Dual extractor springs. On the new 3.2 bolt it has 2 ejectors and is hard chrome coated. Also, the barrels last significantly longer than any other, while maintaining a tight moa. That one dude did a 20k torture test without cleaning it and still held 1MOA.
The durability and redundancy the rifle offers is for, as you said, it being a battle rifle that wins contracts. The military doesn’t give a shit if the soldiers don’t like the furniture. They want a rifle that can get beat to shit and go forever.
Another guy did a recent torture test where he runs one over with a tractor, shoots it with a shotgun, etc. only thing that broke that made it not shoot was the buffer tube.
That's real advantage of KAC
Does the DDm4v7 have a slight wobble ? Mine wobbles just a tiny bit and it drives me nuts…then again this is my first AR and I don’t know how bad a cheap AR wobbles…someone please let me know if this is normal I can definitely feel it when I pick it up and grip it at the rail and the grip I can feel how it wobbles
It's normal there's things you can buy to stop the wobble
Mine doesn't wobble, but inconsistencies in tolerances can cause that. It's fairly normal.
2:35 this is lock back, you made me nervous as fuck for a second
Just buy new rifle. DD M4A1 RIII. Very happy. Comes little upgraded : geissele ssa-e trigger, geissele super 42 spring and buffer, radian sd ch and radian ambi safety levers.
Sweet buy!
I absolutely love my upper KAC easily worth the money I want a lower now and I like you think DD is worth the money
Never heard anyone say they hate these only that there over priced.
Wherever you bought that KAC spray painted that gun. Doesn’t even look like cerakote.
Look at the muzzle device. It’s got paint on it
They all do
@@politeaf8065 crazy
Because spray paint is better than cerakote.
@@orion8981 when you do it yourself. Not from the factory on a way overpriced rifle lmfao
No that’s KAC paint.
Firearms is an expensive hobby. Meanwhile 7 builds later. Plus many more, buy once cry once DDV7 pro last one for me. Great rifle by the way. No more lol🤐
Between these two if money was no object I would reach for the sr-15, no question. The only snag for me would be the proprietary parts on it, like the gas block and gas tube and I believe the bolt and carrier, but that is my dream rifle (other than all the military gun clones lmao)
The proprietary parts aren't a big deal unless you blow the upper up. The improvements made stretch the expected life beyond what a normal person is going to reasonably shoot. If you can blow it out through normal use, you've spent ten times the value of the upper in ammo alone.
I’ve always built my own rifles, this way I can get whatever i want to make a killer weapon
I’m glad I got a DDV7 with a CMC trigger in 2019 for $1300 😂
I don’t know of another AR-15 that has documented firing of 20k rounds without cleaning only adding lube and not 1 malfunction. Also the barrel maintained 1.5 moa after 20 k rounds. KAC is the absolute pinnacle of current AR-15’s making the best rifle currently available.
Agreed 💯, KAC supplies CANSOF, UK SOF and Danish SOF units with KAC Rifles and Suppressors. I don't know of any other Rifle making the 20k test. US SOF still has M110 SASS as well. DD are good But I don't think they can beat KAC.
I'd say radian and LMT are better value than KAC.
My only complaint of DD is they’re way over gassed. I understand why they do it but with more R&D they could resolve that. I was a KAC critic due to the price until I bought one and put some time on it. I have both and if I had to choose I’m going KAC over anything else. It’s very flat, light and gassed perfectly suppressed or unsuppressed. Not to mention it’s efficient and bomb proof.
@@alexcarbery8189 I don’t think they’ll reduce gas port size for me on their MK18. They actually did reduce it several years back but suppressed it still gases you out unless you’re running a flow through can. They keep it larger to run steel cased more reliably. Totally different experience with a KAC or Geissele 11.5. I’m not hating on them, they make great products but I run suppressed 99% of the time. Also I don’t run steel cased but a lot of people do. The gassing issue of the Geissele 10.3/10.5 is much milder as well.
Better to be overgassed than under. Several ways to mitigate the gas but only one to add it.
Yeah, I'll call bullshit.
The DD and the Knights both have .750 gas parts.
So, they're equally gassed.
@@2A.Freedom yeah no it isnt. kac is gassed to perfectly shoot military full powered ammo.
First! Also this is an awesome review
Hey, thanks!
What the average guy doesn’t realize is how their rifles perform under stress and unfavorable environmental conditions. Take your budget build to Gunsite for their week long 223 Carbine Course and your rifle will sh*t the bed….seen it first hand. Say all you want but the Danny D rifles don’t malfunction under harsh conditions and lots of rounds.
THANK YOU!!! Training classes are where PSA's go to die.
My MK18 mod 1 is DD upper on a KAC lower. The upper was definitely worth the money! I don't have any experience with a complete KAC rifle, but those that have them seem to like them, but their not that accurate for the $$$. So many choices out there now that's it's hard to say what's the best these days. If someone asks my opinion this is what I think are the best choices, from least expensive to the most expensive.
PSA
Areo Precision
BCM (although I've heard that their quality has gone down lately?)
CMMG
DD
Just my .02
The rod 2 m 4 heavy barrel build down the fence and barrel centurion arms CHFCL barrel polished feed rams center tabbed gas block ultra low profile to where it was taper Pennington on the hop of the gas block in front of port I love this barrel compared to an M481 by Daniel next to each other is night and day if you have the bottom rail off there’s a huge difference in the M4 profile and the Cellcom profile since Daniel did not make a Socom profile and I did not wanna buy a colt I spent more money and got a centurion arms 14.5 socom profile (colts profile ) and they source they’re cold hammer Forge the blanks from some top military manufacturers such as FN and others and its beauty it’s less gas leakage.. they also have double crown lining and it’s definitely true not a gimmick because next to the Daniel barrel way way more chrome and yes the set up is heavy but you get used to it and then later guns are that much easier to wield around and also running the gun slick helps also with me at least and then when you go to Levert rap hits much easier or even a hand stop it’s nice easier to control now this gun and I have a few different muzzle device surefire three prong The surefire CTNwarcomp end it definitely works well and sodas my 3Prong war comp both neutral times but might use the 3 prong as The rifle being heavy as it is I don’t see much recoil with a 15 pound gun its flat thought about a does your fire break but I hate fireballs especially follow shots plus they cook the fuck out of your life depending on where it is on the firearm so if you have a calm back the light off a little bit unless you have a suppressed muzzle brake/comp
I absolutely love my DDM4V7, she is a BEAST and probably the best "bang for the buck" rifle out there IMO. All my other rifles? PSA baby who all run like scalded dogs. It's really weird how I outshoot most folks with their 3k dollar rifles with my $600 "poor". Its the Indian, not the arrow that matters. If I'm grabbing one rifle to go out the door with it's my DD (do love me some DD's lol wink wink nudge nudge). Truck gun? Field gun? Bang around on the mule gun? My PSA's run and work as well as anyone can ask for. I do smirk a bit when folks tell me "I put this $300 trigger in my AR". Its an AR, not a 600 to 1000 yard platform. But you do you.
Save tons. FN15 is a great AR.
Overrated? I have many high end battle rifles; KAC, LMT, HK mr, LaRue, Noveske, BGD, ADM, LWRCI, Radian, SCAR, BCM, DD. They are all good rifles but the KAC is my favorite. KAC=creamy mama jama smooth butter sweetness!
Yeah, of course you do.
@@thefrogking481 4 SCARS (two 20s in 6.5 and two 16s), 5 KAC (two 16 inch with one black and one FDE, one 11.5 inch, one 14.5, one sr25 in 6.5), 3 HK mr556 (all 16 because I’m an HK fanboy), 3 LWRC (2 piston, 1 DI), 2 BCM recce, 2 RiSE 1121xr in 6.5,1 BGD 11.5 contractor, 1 ADM Capt Quint, 1 Radian, 1 DD mk18, 1 LaRue predatOBR 6.5, 1 Noveske Afghan, 1 SWORD mk15, 1 POF rev piston, 1 Hodge (was the hardest to get), 1 Sig mcx, 1 HK sp5, 1 Barrett m107 (which I do not like to shoot), 2 Benelli m4. We all have our vices and hobbies.
I’ll take the DD all day.
Today I'll review both a Ferrari and a Lamborghini and determine which is most overrated...
Both rifles are awesome. People who worry about these things have too much time on their hands.
How the duck do both of these rifles have a huge gap in between the handguard and upper... Lol
Can easily build better versions of either of them with criterion barrels for half the price
Who would hate on DD? They're solid as F****...... lol
Agreed, but people love to hate em for some reason.
@@dadbodoperator2466 True, very true.
I love Daniel Defense.. they haven’t put out a bad product yet 🤷🏻♂️
Anyone hating on a KAC has never shot a KAC.
They were available at different places during my employment
Knights can go suck a bag of dlcks
You think he’s not shot it?
I don’t own a KAC and I don’t know why because I have DD M4A1 RIII, MK18, MK12, Sig MCX’s in all flavors, all 3 gens and lengths, a FN SCAR, a BCM, Rock River when they were cool, and a CMMG. KAC is the only other rifle I really want as I already have to many 5.56 rifles. The reason being is the gas system they use that is combat gassed and a solid integrated system for durability. They also have a great barrel, bolt carrier, trigger and ambi controls. Complaints about a grip which are cheap to replace and a personal preference is knit picky. Everyone that is serious will put in a Radian SD charging handle on all of their rifles so that’s a moot point. I can’t wait to get a KAC SR15 and love my DD’s so all the haters just can’t afford it. It is a little overpriced and should be a 2500-2600 price point, but KAC is proud, high quality, respected, reputable and hold their value for resale. Resale value is important and AR15’s are a dime a dozen so if you don’t get the higher end rifles you won’t get much on the secondary market. Those PSA’s, S&W’s, Rugers, and home builds won’t even get you 500 dollars. Most importantly, when it comes to my life I want the best, most reliable, durable and best performing rifle possible. Rant complete!!
@absoluteresolution3822 you won't be disappointed. Love mine. Would love to know your through once you get it.
@@beck4218 talking about everyone in the comments
I,d have to look hard at the Noveske before the kac bought the q
geissele sd 14..5 really dont see what makes these 2 kac dd that much better for the money. Maybe im missing something
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Yep guys you heard it government profile barrels are the best on the market 😐 opinions have gotten me so confused 🤣
all i've learned is not to waste money on these weapons. i appreciate the video.
Happy to help my friend!
IMHO, the DD is worth it. But yeah, budget $300 for a trigger. I hear great things about the Triggertech Diamond series and Blackout Defense Zero Reset if you want top-notch. I personally saved a few bucks and went with the Rise Armament Blitz for $140. I stand by my opinion that it is the best bang for the buck trigger out there. Plus, it's direct drop-in.
Fully agree. I ALMOST bought the SR15 upper for $2,000 last month. This exact reason, that they treat their civilian customers like shit and abuse us, is why I didn't. They are down here in Florida a couple hours from me, so technically a local business I would like to support, but cannot get behind.
Okay, they are mean to us, so what, get over it. But their parts are also all proprietary...so what happens if something breaks? You ain't getting a new one.
Congrats Knight's, you HAD the coolest shit 20 years ago....today I went with a SOLGW upper for $1200.
SOLGW makes good stuff. Hearing their owner talk, you can tell he has a commitment to quality.
Knights sells their blems to the civilian market. That's all you need to know about them. Also, solgw is trendy but they really overcharge for what you get.
@@jackbauer4186 Yes, SOLGW is starting to jack their prices up a bit recently, not a big fan of that. Getting close to Geissele prices for a SOLGW complete upper.
And yeah, the worst part is they sell the rejects as ‘new’ and don’t market them as blems. I’d be fine if they were sold as blems and priced accordingly. However, Knights is of the philosophy that ‘civilians are lucky we ALLOW them to buy anything.’
…BOOM! This post NAILS it. They WERE the ‘shit’…NOW, not so much. THAT kind of money..they can kiss it.
@@jackbauer4186 I’ve no doubt almost every manfr EITHER is..OR WILL jack their prices up, DUE TO THE STATE OF OUR COUNTRY’S ECONOMICS BEING DESTROYED. There is that…
I would say DDM4V7 is the cheapest AR15 out there quality/price wise. If you disagree you have never owned one.
I love the DD cerikote
Not even a competition sr-15 all the way. DD is a overpriced basic ar platform. KAC has made actual reliability changes to the platform.
Any AR 15 over $1500 is overrated
One day you'll have a man's job, then you can afford a man's rifle.
DD costs twice as much in Georgia. So 2200$ is a very acceptable price.
Why does it cost so much more in Georgia? I used to live about 40 miles from the factory in Black Creek, and I don't remember the prices being more than anywhere else.
@@dadbodoperator2466 republic of Georgia. Not the states :D
@@skullofserpent5727 Ah, I'm an idiot. Lol
@@skullofserpent5727DD ერთ-ერთი საუკეთესოა, მაგრამ KAC--ის მთავარი უპირატესობა გაძლიერებული საკეტია 🤝
Overpriced and overrated for Knights A. Same with FN.
I’d take my LMT over either of those, but between those definitely the DD.
Idk why people don’t like Daniel Defense. I own one and it’s absolutely fun. No problems. I would like to know why they don’t like it?
I have a sr15 mod 2. Best rifle I ever shot or seen.
Both guns are fire… ddm7 needs a trigger though out the box…
Yeah it does...badly.
Still, everyone sleeps on ADM.
I can't imagine spending that much money on a gun maybe I'm just a poor bum but for me around 1500 will get me what I need
There both nice rifles but they pay so much for them when you can get nice AR’s at the 1K price range. That look good and will do the same things as these do. IMO these rifles have some cool features but they’re way overpriced for what they are. It seems like you’re paying for the name.
There's more quality control that goes into the higher end stuff, for sure. And some of their proprietary stuff is great, but $1,000 more?? Hard to say.
fun fact knights armament rifles look better after theyve been spray painted pink. cody over at m110 sass actual made that very clear