Amazing quirky little bikes. And stunners! The long thin tank, the low bars. Cool as. I had no idea these existed until I saw it in a motorcycle museum, and have now found your vid!
12:13 quick correction, JMCA is like the DOT standerd for motorcycle exhausts in japan. it tests aftermarket pipes and ones that pass (noise regulation, etc) gets a JMCA stamp meaning its legal for street use.
Legend thanks for commenting! I learned that a few days after uploading when I found the historical listing for these pipes on webike. Was hoping someone would comment about it below. It’s interesting - as the pipes are genuine Yoshimura but someone in Japan has added an extra logo overtop of the original stamped logo. Thanks for watching!
I went at an event organized by a museum 10 years ago. If you came with an unusual motorcycle you could visit the museum for free and you had to park your motorcycle inside for visitors to see it. I had a grom back then which was kind of an oddity in my country and so they let me in and one of the other rider had a Honda Dream. I had never seen one in person let alone one that was actually in working order. To my surprise my Grom attracted a lot of people, especially non rider and the Dream wasn't as popular. I guess it makes sense because it doesn't really stand out if you don't know what you're looking at. I haven't seen one since then. I'm not looking to get one but this little thing is worth peoples attention. These kind of bike are rare. I'm not sure if you can call that a halo motorcycle or a passion project from engineers at Honda but it just doesn't happen that often. It's just so different than everything else and that's worth celebrating.
I agree - the fact it exists is super special. You are right though - not many people realise what it is and other more basic models can get a bit more attention at times.
it may be worth checking the cdi unit on the slower bike. The standard unit has a built in rev limiter in 4th and 5th gear. This restricts the top speed. There is a work around which involves jumpering a couple of the wires to trick the cdi and this overcomes the issue. The faster bike may have this done already or is fitted with a takegawa unit. Worth a look.
I just had these bikes around me for the day when filming - I believe the owners have mucked around with them more since but can't report as to how they ride now.
These were only available in race trim here in the States. Some gray market street versions exist in states where you don't have to register a50cc bike. This is the second coolest cafe racer Honda has made. First is the GB 500.Both very rare here.
The black pipe one does not sound quite right and is smoking, they should not smoke so it may have some issues , the side covers and headlight shroud were silver from the factory not black cb50v 1997 and cb50w in 1998, Honda did a race version as well that has a lot less components and no speed indicator just rev counter cb50r in 2004 there was also a red tank version done with black side covers and a black frame which is where the black side covers may have come from. the oil cooler is a takegawa factory optional extra and is mounted correctly it can be seen in the sales brochures, it can also be bought aftermarket. simon uk
Great comment! Yup, the black pipe one has definitely been mucked around with, I could see the base gasket wasn't stock so the motor has been apart at some point. And yes they had both been messed with slightly looks wise. I tend to make these videos as more of a showcase for the bike as it sits, as opposed to trying to judge it's originality or changes. The black side covers were painted that colour in New Zealand by the shop - as they were tidying other parts up that had damage and thats how they ended up.
Haven't watched the whole vid but you mentioned the whine sound from the engine. My guess is its gear driven cams, reinforced by the apparent connecting gear housing. I have a Honda VFR 800, which has gear driven cams and makes the same sound. Incidently that was a real bunny start up, you don't rev an engine from the start, must let proper oil pressure build in the top end first. Neither sound healthy BTW...
I'm considering buying one which is currently up for sale, but after this video I'm not so sure. They look fantastic, but when the version with the black exhausts is obviously struggling for power, it makes me wonder how long these little engines can last. I've rebuilt motorcycle gearboxes and tuned engines, so your more "sporty" model sounds sick. It could be due to a variety of reasons and I would start with a compression leak-down check, to detect burned valves etcetera. Ignition timing could be out of whack and perhaps someone tinkered with the carburettor, imagining that changing jet size would improve performance. In my long experience of bikes and cars, it's best to leave factory settings unchanged. Adding items like an oil cooler on an engine which is well exposed to the wind is just "self stimulation". The focus on superficial stuff like paint is sad.
I wouldn't use these two as representation for all Honda Dreams. The one with the black pipes was modified (questionably) in Japan. But I have ridden other Honda Dreams in New Zealand that have high KM's and still run well. The biggest issue with this model is so many owners just leave them sitting for years as a museum piece so they don't always run well. The two in this video were imported from Japan and basically are 'as is' from when they arrived.
Thanks Ivan but it wasn't. Believe it or not - there is a magical thing called editing which takes place when I make these videos. This means long periods of time can be cut and almost appear as if they didn't exist. Such as the time this bike was warming up.
Amazing quirky little bikes. And stunners! The long thin tank, the low bars. Cool as.
I had no idea these existed until I saw it in a motorcycle museum, and have now found your vid!
12:13 quick correction, JMCA is like the DOT standerd for motorcycle exhausts in japan. it tests aftermarket pipes and ones that pass (noise regulation, etc) gets a JMCA stamp meaning its legal for street use.
Legend thanks for commenting! I learned that a few days after uploading when I found the historical listing for these pipes on webike. Was hoping someone would comment about it below. It’s interesting - as the pipes are genuine Yoshimura but someone in Japan has added an extra logo overtop of the original stamped logo. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallBikeStuff great video as always mate
I went at an event organized by a museum 10 years ago. If you came with an unusual motorcycle you could visit the museum for free and you had to park your motorcycle inside for visitors to see it. I had a grom back then which was kind of an oddity in my country and so they let me in and one of the other rider had a Honda Dream. I had never seen one in person let alone one that was actually in working order. To my surprise my Grom attracted a lot of people, especially non rider and the Dream wasn't as popular. I guess it makes sense because it doesn't really stand out if you don't know what you're looking at. I haven't seen one since then.
I'm not looking to get one but this little thing is worth peoples attention. These kind of bike are rare. I'm not sure if you can call that a halo motorcycle or a passion project from engineers at Honda but it just doesn't happen that often. It's just so different than everything else and that's worth celebrating.
I agree - the fact it exists is super special. You are right though - not many people realise what it is and other more basic models can get a bit more attention at times.
it may be worth checking the cdi unit on the slower bike. The standard unit has a built in rev limiter in 4th and 5th gear. This restricts the top speed. There is a work around which involves jumpering a couple of the wires to trick the cdi and this overcomes the issue. The faster bike may have this done already or is fitted with a takegawa unit. Worth a look.
I just had these bikes around me for the day when filming - I believe the owners have mucked around with them more since but can't report as to how they ride now.
These were only available in race trim here in the States. Some gray market street versions exist in states where you don't have to register a50cc bike. This is the second coolest cafe racer Honda has made. First is the GB 500.Both very rare here.
Interesting insight! We have the GB500 here and most people don’t appreciate them for what they are.
Its the dream
The one and only! Except there's two of them.
The black pipe one does not sound quite right and is smoking, they should not smoke so it may have some issues , the side covers and headlight shroud were silver from the factory not black cb50v 1997 and cb50w in 1998, Honda did a race version as well that has a lot less components and no speed indicator just rev counter cb50r in 2004 there was also a red tank version done with black side covers and a black frame which is where the black side covers may have come from. the oil cooler is a takegawa factory optional extra and is mounted correctly it can be seen in the sales brochures, it can also be bought aftermarket. simon uk
Great comment! Yup, the black pipe one has definitely been mucked around with, I could see the base gasket wasn't stock so the motor has been apart at some point. And yes they had both been messed with slightly looks wise. I tend to make these videos as more of a showcase for the bike as it sits, as opposed to trying to judge it's originality or changes. The black side covers were painted that colour in New Zealand by the shop - as they were tidying other parts up that had damage and thats how they ended up.
Fantastic never seen this model 👍
It's such a nice machine!
Hi Small bike stuff I believe the rims are called shouldered, for strength. race bikes have them (on or off road) Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the reply. Makes sense! I appreciate it. Cheers for watching.
Skyteam ace . Good little things
The replica of this model. Cool bikes!
Clean beans!
Thanks for watching!
Haven't watched the whole vid but you mentioned the whine sound from the engine. My guess is its gear driven cams, reinforced by the apparent connecting gear housing. I have a Honda VFR 800, which has gear driven cams and makes the same sound. Incidently that was a real bunny start up, you don't rev an engine from the start, must let proper oil pressure build in the top end first. Neither sound healthy BTW...
Both bikes had been running before filming - as with all my videos. Cheers for watching.
I'm considering buying one which is currently up for sale, but after this video I'm not so sure. They look fantastic, but when the version with the black exhausts is obviously struggling for power, it makes me wonder how long these little engines can last. I've rebuilt motorcycle gearboxes and tuned engines, so your more "sporty" model sounds sick. It could be due to a variety of reasons and I would start with a compression leak-down check, to detect burned valves etcetera. Ignition timing could be out of whack and perhaps someone tinkered with the carburettor, imagining that changing jet size would improve performance. In my long experience of bikes and cars, it's best to leave factory settings unchanged. Adding items like an oil cooler on an engine which is well exposed to the wind is just "self stimulation". The focus on superficial stuff like paint is sad.
I wouldn't use these two as representation for all Honda Dreams. The one with the black pipes was modified (questionably) in Japan. But I have ridden other Honda Dreams in New Zealand that have high KM's and still run well. The biggest issue with this model is so many owners just leave them sitting for years as a museum piece so they don't always run well. The two in this video were imported from Japan and basically are 'as is' from when they arrived.
How much horse power do these make
Supposedly 5.6 HP
@@SmallBikeStuff PFFFFF 😅
The Oil cooler might be installed wrong
Thats how it arrived from Japan, hasn't been added in NZ. Do you think the hoses might be around the wrong way or something else?
@@SmallBikeStuff the oil cooler itself might be upside down. It will always contain oil and some dirt even if you drain it.
@@shadymoto3690check out the oil cooler Wave video. It’s much the same, not hard to remove and drain properly though.
@@SmallBikeStuff got it
Price 14000usd in Cambodia
Yes it’s not a cheap bike. Thanks for watching!
Bit of a wet dream really
🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢
This one is faster: ruclips.net/video/xJwNhnDzNwE/видео.htmlsi=U8TEGyvKymzdcCp1
This bike should be protected by UNESCO.
Thankfully Honda actually made a few of them!
Do Not rev it like that from cold...
Thanks Ivan but it wasn't. Believe it or not - there is a magical thing called editing which takes place when I make these videos. This means long periods of time can be cut and almost appear as if they didn't exist. Such as the time this bike was warming up.