my lord but RPM does not seem to have been a design consideration! seems like such a waste imo. i'd love to see a huge single cylinder, but with a balance shaft or a dummy cylinder like ducati's supermono so it can rev properly
When he tucked in I started dying laughing! I couldn't hear what he was shouting at the fella in the sidecar, but it sounded like "SIX POINT FOUR MILES PER HOUR!!" 😅😂 Not even fast enough to mess your hair up! 😂
@@gibbogle I'll never forget my uncle calling us over to his house so he could proceed to brag about his 74 inch Harley-Davidson police bike that he bought at a police auction and it punted his ass over the fork when he didn't set that pedal right and it kicked back 🤣 He didn't keep it very long.
When bombadier/ Can am were developing the ds650 they were originally designing it with a kick starter but had issues with the automatic decompression and supposedly some legs were broken and then designed it be electric starter only on it
Absolutely! As a kid, I had a go-cart/dune buggy that had a big ol' 10hp B & S on it that was from a grain elevator. It sounded very similar. It wasn't very fast, but it would lug up almost any hill.
These bikes are actually not motorcycles, as much as machines for breaking right legs, and causing concussions, when starting one without a helmet. What a challenge.
I think it must've only been push-started like in the video. It was a novelty, not a legitimate bike. That said, a LOT of people (myself included) have been terrified and/or injured by 500cc 2-stroke singles. I was lucky, being flung onto my face was the worst I got, haha!
@@patrickbodine1300 Well sure, but if a 500 will break your ankle, surely even a compression-released 2,000 would be as bad or worse, right? I genuinely don't know, I've only ridden 250 or smaller 2-strokes and 4-strokes with electric start.
This design is highly practical as it avoids unnecessary clutter, weight and complexity, such as instrumentation. Forget the old-school tachometer. You can just count the revs out loud as you ride.
Gotta admire his dedication to worthlessness. It's not even a solution to a non-existent problem ( Series 80 1911 ) At least it does prove one theory. You can't polish a turd.....well done sir !
A dream bike for me, i can imagine chewing miles, 70mph at a time @500rpm. Just a chilling experience. The Mono has a magic to it that makes it feel more mechanical and archaic, comparing it to a sophisticated twin or more with less vibrations. IDK I'll try it.
I had the B44VS with a high comp piston. It nearly threw my mate over the bars. 😀 Whereas, I always made sure it was safely past TDC before kicking. (Electronic ignition helped)
Didn't those old Beezers have ignition advance and retard for starting? I seem to remember a mate who had a B31 which had a lever on the bars for advance/retard? If you didn't retard it before kicking it over, you risked breaking your ankle. Maybe it was an option or only fitted to pre-unit engines, but the Victor 441 and the Starfire 250 would certainly have benefitted from it.
@@125brat Well, you are exactly on the right track but just a tiny bit off. My Victor 500 (B50T) has a little trigger on the handle bar that pulls a cable going to the cylinder head. The lever on the head the cable is hooked to lifts the exhaust valve a bit. Then, you bring it up to approach Top Dead Center with the Kickstarter and pull that decompressor to get right at TDC. Then you jump as high as you can and about half way down kick the living stuff out of it. I only had mine hurt me once but I never forgot it.
@@125brat I think you’re right - That was only on the pre-unit engines. And yes, it would have been very useful on the larger cc or higher compression engines. I fitted electronic ignition which must have helped. It certainly gave reliable starting and smooth acceleration. 🏍💨
When I was young, and that was a long time ago, I owned a Matchless 600cc single, called a Matchless Typhoon. Once while starting it, I left the timing to far advanced, and it fired early throwing me completely off the motorcycle. Fortunately, I had it on the center stand. I can imagine the damage this thing could do to a person trying to kick-start it.
Biggest single cylinder motorbike perhaps, but not the biggest single cylinder engine in the world by a long stretch. The Otto is a very impressive single-cylinder, stationary, natural gas engine and is the largest remaining single-cylinder engine we know of in the world. It weighs about 25 tons and the Deane pump weighs 20 tons. The engine has a 21 inch bore and a 30 inch stroke, which yields a displacement of 10,391 cubic inches, or approximately 170 liters. Its nameplate rating is 175 hp at 180 RPM. When operating at these conditions the engine produces over 5100 ft lbf of torque.
You probably meant the biggest motorcycle single cylinder engine in the world, because as far as I know, one of the biggest must be the Lanz Bulldog with a 10.6 L single cylinder two-stroke diesel
Me parece fabulosa y un despropósito a la vez , 2mil cc en un solo cilindro? Creo que no puede desarrollar ni 2000rpm a fondo y creo que volaria en mil pedazos, pero igualmente me gusta mucho es un aparato diabólico y debe ser muy dificil de conducir, pero... Igualmente me encanta 😊
I had a 1985 Harley low rider with the 1340cc V twin. It had a stock kicker on it, THAT could break your leg, that thing could rip off your leg and beat you with the wet end....
Just the thought of kickstarting that thing makes my knee hurt. When I worked as dealer service technician I used to have the shop helpers kick start thumpers over 400cc because I was mean. One day a DR650R with leaking float backfired and sent that +/-150lbs shop helper for field goal. He landed on his back about 10 feet away and was slightly upset with me when he got up, but today he will tell you it was on the job training.
It sounds like hit and miss engine on idle, nothing special about the sound. But impressive take on 2000cc with single cylinder. You could count the explosions and feel them 😂
NSU had a reciprocating overhead cam drive which could have been used here, does anyone know please? no, looking at other websites it seems this engine has a screw gear drive.
An interesting counterpart to Allen Millyard's v-twin 5-litre machine, using two cylinders from a radial aero engine. He built it in his shed, one of several extraordinary motorcycles he's built over the years. Some are in museums, e.g., his 2300cc V12 Kawasaki, and he rides the others regularly. ruclips.net/video/I-Xr1bmbZ_s/видео.html
Cmmon Allen, ANSWER THIS GUY, SHOW HIM WHO IS REALY THE KING ENGINER IN H U G E bike engines!! ( probably reduced the compression to about 4 -- 1 and ignition timing to top dead center, or that monster, on kick starting would break his leg, AND launch his broken body half way to the MOON!!!!
Compare that to the Rotax 650 cc injection engine, in my BMW F650CS. Why don't these men build a 1300 cc engine, combining TWO of those 650 cc machines? You'd be surprised.
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Sounds like anything above 300 rpm would vibrate the bike to pieces.
my lord but RPM does not seem to have been a design consideration! seems like such a waste imo. i'd love to see a huge single cylinder, but with a balance shaft or a dummy cylinder like ducati's supermono so it can rev properly
@@5naxalotli can only imagine, then it might be capable of like what, maybe 1000 rpm? Its like the opposite of Vincent Foucart’s Peugeot 205.
Why do u want rpm
When you already have torque?
Imagine trying to kick it!
Next, he could just sit directly on the piston 😂
I love the way he lowers himself over the handlebars to make it more aerodynamic, at eight miles an hour.
🤣 yooo, right??
When he tucked in I started dying laughing! I couldn't hear what he was shouting at the fella in the sidecar, but it sounded like "SIX POINT FOUR MILES PER HOUR!!" 😅😂
Not even fast enough to mess your hair up! 😂
That got me too. Leaning over to embrace butt kicking acceleration for then nothing to happen. Fascinating project through.
That kick starter has the potential to be a leg breaker.
For sure. I was scared of kick-starting my big brother's Norton International, and that was only 500cc.
@@gibbogle I'll never forget my uncle calling us over to his house so he could proceed to brag about his 74 inch Harley-Davidson police bike that he bought at a police auction and it punted his ass over the fork when he didn't set that pedal right and it kicked back 🤣 He didn't keep it very long.
yup, here in my country we have some old 350cc also called "leg breaker". Imagine that one
Same with Yamaha, SR 500@@gibbogle
When bombadier/ Can am were developing the ds650 they were originally designing it with a kick starter but had issues with the automatic decompression and supposedly some legs were broken and then designed it be electric starter only on it
If he gets tired of riding it, he can use it as a shaker to mix paint. Got to vibrate like crazy.
Sounds like an old John Deere tractor, can you plow with it ?
Honestly I sometimes think of my single cylinder 125 as a tractor lol
You just described every HD big twin ever made.
fowler marshal
Only in idle...
at lower rpm's you could see the entire bike reacting to the torque reaction of the crank. No internal stresses there. Wow!
It has the same sound as a huge Briggs & Stratton
Absolutely! As a kid, I had a go-cart/dune buggy that had a big ol' 10hp B & S on it that was from a grain elevator. It sounded very similar. It wasn't very fast, but it would lug up almost any hill.
These bikes are actually not motorcycles, as much as machines for breaking right legs, and causing concussions, when starting one without a helmet. What a challenge.
I think it must've only been push-started like in the video. It was a novelty, not a legitimate bike. That said, a LOT of people (myself included) have been terrified and/or injured by 500cc 2-stroke singles. I was lucky, being flung onto my face was the worst I got, haha!
I had a Yamaha DT 400 which had a decompressor operated by the kickstart. I would expect the same on a 2l motorcycle engine.
That is why you have compression release devices on such machines.
@@patrickbodine1300 Well sure, but if a 500 will break your ankle, surely even a compression-released 2,000 would be as bad or worse, right? I genuinely don't know, I've only ridden 250 or smaller 2-strokes and 4-strokes with electric start.
You can literally count the revs when it goes slowly down the road.
It's not the rpm but the resonances in the exhaust pipe.
360rpm is already 6rpsec or 3 explosions per second (4 stroke cycle).
every ignition 1m drive...so you can count how far you drove it...just count all bangs
I saw it in person and a sign next to it with technical data said: “Top speed depends on the courage of the rider”
Alan Millyard has a 5000cc V twin from two barrels and pistons from an aireplane engine
Yes, but Alan's bike has 2 cylindres
@@vogelfreund2615and what’s 5000/2?
@@FlatBroke612 bigger yes👍. But its different classes
The potato video quality makes me think this bike has been around for quite a while now. It could well pre-date the Flying Millyard.
Its from Juni 2000 @@rockets4kids
Some of y'all gotta realise not everything is built for performance. Some people like silly absurd things, and that's ok. I'm with them.
Allen Millyard be like "hold my tea and cupcake"
Allen Millyard is mind blowingly clever. And the 'Tea and Cupcake' reference is spot on.
I clicked on this to see the Allen Millyard comment.
Not disappointed
I have seen both bike's (1000 and 2000cc) in Technik museum Sinsheim Germany.
This design is highly practical as it avoids unnecessary clutter, weight and complexity, such as instrumentation. Forget the old-school tachometer. You can just count the revs out loud as you ride.
Gotta admire his dedication to worthlessness. It's not even a solution to a non-existent problem
( Series 80 1911 ) At least it does prove one theory. You can't polish a turd.....well done sir !
The back kick from the kicker is going to be leg breaker. Hope it has a starter motor.
YEP, IT HAS STARTER MOTORS, YOU AND THREE FRIENDS. WATCH YOUR TOES!
Didnt you see them push start it?
A dream bike for me, i can imagine chewing miles, 70mph at a time @500rpm. Just a chilling experience. The Mono has a magic to it that makes it feel more mechanical and archaic, comparing it to a sophisticated twin or more with less vibrations. IDK I'll try it.
Thanks for posting these videos. Were you at the Sinsheim/Speyer museums in Germany lately? A lot of the bikes are displayed there.
All I have to say is, there is no replacement for displacement. Wow what a work of engineering.
Had a BSA 441 Victor Shooting Star single that could break your leg if started incorrectly. Pass on this single
I had a Victor 500 that I somehow let kickback on me in the early '80's. My foot still hurts sometimes.
I had the B44VS with a high comp piston. It nearly threw my mate over the bars. 😀
Whereas, I always made sure it was safely past TDC before kicking. (Electronic ignition helped)
Didn't those old Beezers have ignition advance and retard for starting? I seem to remember a mate who had a B31 which had a lever on the bars for advance/retard? If you didn't retard it before kicking it over, you risked breaking your ankle.
Maybe it was an option or only fitted to pre-unit engines, but the Victor 441 and the Starfire 250 would certainly have benefitted from it.
@@125brat Well, you are exactly on the right track but just a tiny bit off. My Victor 500 (B50T) has a little trigger on the handle bar that pulls a cable going to the cylinder head. The lever on the head the cable is hooked to lifts the exhaust valve a bit. Then, you bring it up to approach Top Dead Center with the Kickstarter and pull that decompressor to get right at TDC. Then you jump as high as you can and about half way down kick the living stuff out of it. I only had mine hurt me once but I never forgot it.
@@125brat
I think you’re right - That was only on the pre-unit engines. And yes, it would have been very useful on the larger cc or higher compression engines.
I fitted electronic ignition which must have helped. It certainly gave reliable starting and smooth acceleration. 🏍💨
2 Liters = 122 cubic inches. Piston diameter 146mm = 5.75 in. Would have a 4.7 inch stroke.
what about the lanz bulldog, it has a single horizontal cilinder spanning from 5,7 up to 12,5 liters
Nice bike. Allan Millard used 2 aircraft cylinders to make the 5 litre V twin Flying Millard. This is good, but I prefer Mr Millard.
Norton Manx is the best sounding single cylinder,this bike sounds not crap,but not good either.
When I was young, and that was a long time ago, I owned a Matchless 600cc single, called a Matchless Typhoon. Once while starting it, I left the timing to far advanced, and it fired early throwing me completely off the motorcycle. Fortunately, I had it on the center stand. I can imagine the damage this thing could do to a person trying to kick-start it.
Any idea on the top speed?
Also,how does it handle?
Bad, and worse. Like using the Mona Lisa for a kite.... But wow, what a work of art!
@@deanhil3978 😀👍🏻
Vibration❌ earthquake✅
2:23 they are 10mph, when get aerodynamic, topspeed in 12mph
Nah... Lanz Bulldog has about 10.000 cc Displacement in a single cylinder
For sale:- 1 kickstarter, very good condition, only used once.
Would SURE like to see a vidio of the building of the engine AND transmission AND him KICK STARTING THAT MONSTER ( if available!!)!!!
I think this is cool as hell.I wonder what radial engine the cylinder came from.I always wanted a single cylinder motorcycle.
Sounds like it barely runs. No good!
We're very familiar with this sound. All the farm land water pump, boat engines, and farmland tractor engines make this noise.
Do a video or two on Allen Millyard, he built a 8L V10 and 5L V2 motorcycles.
Awesome! But to be specific, there have been many single cylinder engines much larger than this, but usually they where stationary engines
Biggest single cylinder motorbike perhaps, but not the biggest single cylinder engine in the world by a long stretch.
The Otto is a very impressive single-cylinder, stationary, natural gas engine and is the largest remaining single-cylinder engine we know of in the world. It weighs about 25 tons and the Deane pump weighs 20 tons. The engine has a 21 inch bore and a 30 inch stroke, which yields a displacement of 10,391 cubic inches, or approximately 170 liters. Its nameplate rating is 175 hp at 180 RPM. When operating at these conditions the engine produces over 5100 ft lbf of torque.
There’s motorcycle on the preview…
You probably meant the biggest motorcycle single cylinder engine in the world, because as far as I know, one of the biggest must be the Lanz Bulldog with a 10.6 L single cylinder two-stroke diesel
Fascinating water pump sound. 😎
Definitely a briggs😂
YesS!,, unfortunately :--/
what? is that it? i wanna see more footage of it being ridden
The vibration must be horrendous, the power delivery must be terribly lumpy, forget about revving to the moon like a typical motorbike engine.
2:30 haha dude's hanging on like he's doing 200mph
Me parece fabulosa y un despropósito a la vez , 2mil cc en un solo cilindro? Creo que no puede desarrollar ni 2000rpm a fondo y creo que volaria en mil pedazos, pero igualmente me gusta mucho es un aparato diabólico y debe ser muy dificil de conducir, pero... Igualmente me encanta 😊
Wow - interesting motorbike, good video!
2:28 My man is full tuck when going at a jogging pace...
Reminds me of what they used to say about the Panther - one bang every lamp post
1:55 - Kinda sounds like my uncle's 1919 Rumley steel wheel tractor.
I had a 1985 Harley low rider with the 1340cc V twin. It had a stock kicker on it, THAT could break your leg, that thing could rip off your leg and beat you with the wet end....
Imagine throwing a rod that large- be like a cannon ball! Thing sounds ridiculous, more like a snare drum than an engine!
Just the thought of kickstarting that thing makes my knee hurt. When I worked as dealer service technician I used to have the shop helpers kick start thumpers over 400cc because I was mean. One day a DR650R with leaking float backfired and sent that +/-150lbs shop helper for field goal. He landed on his back about 10 feet away and was slightly upset with me when he got up, but today he will tell you it was on the job training.
A proper motorcycle factory could make 2000cc single a very functioning bike with counter balancer, proper stroke x bore and compression ratio etc.
It never kicks back twice: 😡 you're dead after the first kick-back!!
I made that exact sound when I was 3 years old with a soup ladle and a pot. Didnt have time to build a motorcycle.
it did not go so fast or did it?
How fast does this go? 50 mph?
And it's got a kick start !!! That wouldn't put you over the handlebars or nothing!
There was an early car with a 2500 cc single cylinder engine. It was not overly successful!
Someone in Australia built a 5000cc vtwin bike using a merlin
Me: "Oh it has a sidecar! I wonder why?"
Also me: "I see! It needs two people to push start it."
It sounds like hit and miss engine on idle, nothing special about the sound. But impressive take on 2000cc with single cylinder. You could count the explosions and feel them 😂
Once I had had an SRX600,
and sometimes kick start were difficult,
it was only 600cm3 though.
You should have a look at the 1 liter Satte Literschüssel from Brösel.
It's sound reminds me of a poorly tuned Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine. 3 1/2 h.p.
I remember when I was learning how to kick start my TT600. Except mine was much faster... lol
Why build this? Well suited as a boat anchor ?
Sounds like a sick lawn mower.
2:16.......I recall shallow oil wells in Ohio, powered with a huge single cylinder engine, built in the early 20th century, that sounded like that.
A kickstarter on a 2000cc engine sounds like it would enjoy sending your foot through the top of your head!
Rumour has it, he's working on a muffler.
Sir, you “heard that wrong”. He is working on a HEARING AID. Huh? You hear some people say that you get used to noise after a while.
That sound is incredible.😂
NSU had a reciprocating overhead cam drive which could have been used here, does anyone know please? no, looking at other websites it seems this engine has a screw gear drive.
lol, how loud is it ...... fantastic
An interesting counterpart to Allen Millyard's v-twin 5-litre machine, using two cylinders from a radial aero engine. He built it in his shed, one of several extraordinary motorcycles he's built over the years. Some are in museums, e.g., his 2300cc V12 Kawasaki, and he rides the others regularly. ruclips.net/video/I-Xr1bmbZ_s/видео.html
Millyard's designs are well engineered, this one looks thrown together with no particular reason.
Wonder how he balanced the crankshaft, and geared the kickstarter
Cmmon Allen, ANSWER THIS GUY, SHOW HIM WHO IS REALY THE KING ENGINER IN H U G E bike engines!! ( probably reduced the compression to about 4 -- 1 and ignition timing to top dead center, or that monster, on kick starting would break his leg, AND launch his broken body half way to the MOON!!!!
@@earlwheelock7844 In his video, it seems to start pretty easily. Perhaps, the carburettors play some part in that; he made them himself.
@@earlwheelock7844 Allen has some videos of the engine's construction, including the crankshaft.
Full throttle sounds like a literal machine gun😂
Cheers for that.
He's tucking in to stream line position when the thing is going like 10-15mph, lol.
Meanwhile, im too afraid to modify my opel 1.2 OHV engine, because "I CaN'T rEv HiGH wItH A PUsh rOd EnGiNe "
The Lanz Bulldog of motorcycles...
And that's why no one builds a 2000cc single. Next topic....
That was a real ripper.
All hunched over riding like they are doing 150mph, and the bike goes by at like 10mph
What is the top speed? 🛵
I love single Thumper's. I have a Suzuki Boulevard S40 (650). A simple carburetted job.
Ive always fancied one of those. I love big thumpers that fire every second
telegraph pole...or so it seems.
Thourough demonstration of an egine force based on controlled explosions! Did he made the counterweight from Uranium?
Did he say it sounds mind blowing? Sounded more like an old lawnmower.
I want it as a v twin it would really sound good then!
She goes 8mph, red lines at 500rpm, but she could tow the fucking moon out of orbit
i knew of a 5 litre twin motorcycle a guy in Australia or New Zealand chopped two cylinders off an aircraft engine back in the 80's
You have the feeling that you can count each rotation. 😅 Amazing
There's a warning lamp on the headlight to tell you when the piston is going down so you can let the clutch out🤣🤣
This could pop a wheely and overturn the bike with one powerstroke.
2:15 Jesus, you can count the strokes in real time. 😄
I like how there's a kick starter
Compare that to the Rotax 650 cc injection engine, in my BMW F650CS. Why don't these men build a 1300 cc engine, combining TWO of those 650 cc machines? You'd be surprised.
There is a 5 litre single cylinder bike in Australia.
Looks like the jug and top-end off a Continental or Lycoming. Probably O540?
A Masochism Machine.
That's as subtle as lighting your hair on fire.