I agree you can put everything in a level to make the ultimate troll level Edit: OMG 4 LIKES THAT IS THE MOST LIKES THAT I HAVE EVER GOTTEN ON A COMMENT OR ANYTHING
He precisely said among the lines of encouraging creating a remake with interesting twists, but really discourages making the very exact same level. This holds true for SMB1 1-1.
No.23 Some stages require to find a hidden block just to access the next area. If you want to use hidden blocks, make sure to give player hints with coins or ground decorations.
Troll level: O Edit:I have never got 3 likes thanks well I’m going now 4 likes what this comment means nothing how? O O ➖ Hello 5 likes well I think that’s enough. ...6 likes this is the most likes I ever had
I think a big thing to note with this video, especially if you read the comments... These are what Smashy wants in their levels but it doesn't mean you should complete adhere to it. What do YOU want and what is fun for YOU. While a lot of people might talk about PIck-A-Door as negative a lot of people liked Teleporter mazes or others like more cautious underwater dark levels sometimes lit up more. Just do it well, since most of the stuff in this video referenced it at the worst but otherwise would be amazing if done in the right level or situation.
2:28 People are still making Refreshing Levels because there's still people who actually give them likes Whoever keeps liking those levels, I hope they're on a watchlist now
On number 38 I would say that it can be okay to make labyrinths as long as you give the player lots of room and lots of time. It can be fun and rewarding to find the exit. These work well in ghost houses as many players feel more accomplished after completing the level. :D
Honestly, I mean it's one thing not to be a troll about it, but completely avoiding making a valid water, dark, or water and dark level is just limiting the creator. Water levels exist people, it's not usually a surprise from most thumbnails...don't act like nobody can make these levels
If I really think about these. Some of the thing you talk about can be use in a good way. 1)Offscreen thwomp can be use in a good way. That is using it to activate a block to drop power up for player or be use for a mini puzzle. 5)Pick a random door can be using in funny way to fool player to think there is a trap. When there is no trap and all door send them to same place any way. Also reward them a power up for going into it. 6)Naked pipe... Umm... Kaizo and auto level often does this. 22)Long clear pipe be use to let use know what they up against or use it as being part of a pokemon music show case. 27)As much people don't like ideal of killing Yoshi. But some time it can be made in a way that you have to save Yoshi to clear a level. 29)Unobtainable power up can be use as hint to guide user to know where to go. I find few level that does this. 32)Enemy in ? block can be use for puzzle level.
Unfortunately most people would see the doors and immediately stop playing and boo the level. You're better off doing this via a red-coin level looking setup so that way it looks like you're collecting coins and players won't expect the worst.
Minor dispute with #17--I think Bomb Excavation can be fairly fun if used in conjunction with a boss fight of sorts. For example, having to excavate 3-4 layers of blocks surrounding the axe in a castle level while dodging flames and bullet bills coming at you. It'd have to be done correctly of course.
Lol I watched Arrowstotle’s video first and the end said “Watch the video on screen to learn 40 things not to build” then it showed his March Creator Contest, I rewatched it and it got fixed to this video
Although most things in here are a great idea to mention, I strongly disagree with some of them : 1. #12 Refreshing stages : I personaly don't like them, but they seem to be very popular, so the community spoke : they are ok. 2. #35 Dark underwater stages : "underwater levels are not most fun levels" that's just your opinion and taste, like refreshing stages. The problem is with the dark option, in water or not, in that you can hide some pretty big dangers that won't glow. Let's say they are hard to make well, but can be very very nice when everything inside is balanced. 3. #36 Ugly design : I agree on all you say, but the level you show looks actually fun to play. Is it ugly if the gameplay is good ? The switch is the very embodiement of the answer no. Just like with people, fun is beautiful. 4. #37 Upside down Kaizo : I just don't get your point there. I love these. Just a matter of opinion and taste again. 5. #38 Labyrinth : when not well done, they are easy to skip ; when well done they can be the most fascinating experience. Downside is that most players want a quick reward, and mazes make you think a lot for it. They're just a subgenre of puzzles. As all genres they can be well done of not. Except these 5, that's still 35 points that all new makers should be told before they start posting (hello enemy spam, empty levels, dev exits...), so thanks for making it !
Apart from the labrynth and a few others, most of the stuff is used in many of the best kaizo and generally hard levels. How many times has CarlSagan42 and Juzcook gotten a kaizo fish to the head 😆
Actually my Levels are challenge based levels so I know how hard it feels also invisible blocks are only for 1:Hidden paths (With doors) 2:Hidden op power-ups 3:Easy win (with doors) Also thx for making this I've decided to cancel my upslide down level
I have to disagree with #14: not everyone loves 1-1 levels with a twist because those twists are usually just putting the game in another style or adding 1-2 Also we do not want to see each other's merit because most people who would make these also have enemy spam levels with dev blocks/exits and flat nothingness for the rest of the level
For #20, I would upload template corses as *random level #* so people could play those template levels again. I know it might be annoying, but it’s for good, not for bad.
I feel many streamers and some players might disagree with some of your list... some love to never save yoshi and a kazio block well placed isn’t completely bad and can be funny (if timed correctly). Each individual is different and appreciates different things!
@@ShyGuy141Alt no offense or shit but first of all, they hurt my damn eyes, they appear all over the damn “popular section” and they are not fucking fun like a ground pound then do nothing.
Alternte title: Super Everyone but me makes these kind of levels maker 2. (Even though I did make a level where you ride in a pipe, but I did give a warning to not play and I added meowser, bros, bloopers, pom pom, sound effects, and bonus music to make it interesting!)
Make sure to subscribe to Arrowstotle: ruclips.net/channel/UCxvFAknrRKFvrxxWLY6Z1_g
Thanks for watching!
Ok
Ok I'm going to Smashy the subscribe button
Hello Smashy!
Can you place the link of the video containing a remix of SM3DW'S Bowser's world?
Don’t build SMB 1-1, it has been done to *DEATH*
1:56 : Don't make enemy spam.
Little timmy: *I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.*
hear*
Lol
100th like!!!!!!!!!!!!! yay
@@catwpants cool profile pic
Everyone online not knowing who made this: oof this course, lets drop a boo bomb
Had a blast working with you again! Thanks for the fun :)
Arrowstotle i have an idea for a video
Hello! I'm making a themed world. Once I am done I'll send you the code to the world
Hi, Arrowstotle. How do you feel about anyone creating a boss level like fighting all 7 Koopalings at once... and Bowser, Jr. in a "room"?
Plz do this again arrowstotle🤞
@Arrowstotle, nice 😄
Smashy: 40 things you shouldn't build
Trash, troll and famous makers: 40 things you should build
@Kai Herman advertise your level where it's wanted, most people don't want to hear about your level here.
Shouldn't have added the second "Smashy:"
@@KingSmoothcheeksPig Thank you, edited
It's not his level, but Thwomp Suc by Bearware.
@@user-gy6fq3lu7q It was a pleasure :)
Appreciate how in SMM1, Yamamura literally tells the builder to do #32
But they said don’t do this,it will annoy the player
In smm2
Alternative Title: Troll Level Starter Kit.
True
Or: Endless Easy pack
I agree you can put everything in a level to make the ultimate troll level
Edit: OMG 4 LIKES THAT IS THE MOST LIKES THAT I HAVE EVER GOTTEN ON A COMMENT OR ANYTHING
Or: do not put bad stuff in super Mario maker 2 for the switch
nah this is the troll level advanced kit
Alternate title: Little Timmy starter pack
Omg so true
👍
Timmy Turner?
@@gojoseph2284 yep
@@gojoseph2284 *CaN I hAvE cOinS?*
3:09
Fun Fact: An official 'leap of faith' level was actually showed off in one of the first trailers for the original Super Mario Maker!
WATCH THIS VIDEO NINTENDO
AND, it's one of the levels in the 10 Mario Challenge
3:11*
i can't do the leap of faith :(
@@anawesomedude4358 youtube is faster than our time
Troll Levels: “I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that.”
I hate people who steal comments, and then get more likes than the original.
Dirty thief.
Lol
4:43
Me who is eating a burger: You have no power here
I mean, "refreshing" levels are actually refreshing
They make you refresh to see if they're gone
Underrated comment
I don't understand how they get to the most popular even though there hot garbage
I don’t like them because they hurt my eyes
They succ
I know I hate those level, they are not refreshing they are not fun, why do people even heart them
Smashy: Don't build 1-1 remakes.
Also Smashy: _Makes a 1-1 remake level contest._
your first mistake was thinking this was serious. "naked pipes" Lol
He said that he wants original remakes, not the exact same thing
He precisely said among the lines of encouraging creating a remake with interesting twists, but really discourages making the very exact same level. This holds true for SMB1 1-1.
thinking about the winner makes me think that he shouldnt have been the winner, his level has "pipes without end"
@@tposejank sounds fun to me. why didn't he win? :3
Smashy: Don’t make 1-1 remakes
Me: *makes 1-2 remakes*
Actually i played like 50 1-1 remakes but not a single remake from another level or another game thats sad
That's a great little joke!
👏👏👏
Wait, that's illegal.
*listen here you little-*
No.23 Some stages require to find a hidden block just to access the next area. If you want to use hidden blocks, make sure to give player hints with coins or ground decorations.
7:44 Yet sometimes it doesn’t even have a 100% clear rate
HOW!?
@@IvanFranco120 they run out of time
“Things you shouldn’t build in Mario Maker 2”
Us: This sign can’t stop me cause I can’t read
Eli / Nick Is weird no, it’s just a joke...
It’s just Little Timmy’s Dream to do the opposite
Huked en Fonicks werked fer mi.
This sign can't stop me cause I don't care
no its japan
This video: Don’t build these things!
Troll Level:
Troll level: O
Edit:I have never got 3 likes thanks well I’m going now
4 likes what this comment means nothing how?
O O
➖
Hello
5 likes well I think that’s enough.
...6 likes this is the most likes I ever had
Troll Levels : This sign won't stop me because i can't read.
Alternate title: How to not make a troll level.
Actually I used all of those XD
Edit : stop sending stupid replies after 1 year
@@justadragonnamemarcus1751 little timmy
@@Da_ni_el_le do you wana have a BAD CREATER time?
@@justadragonnamemarcus1751 little Timmy
@@Luxuriantsama uno reverse card
6:43 adding slide theme is even More evil.
I think a big thing to note with this video, especially if you read the comments...
These are what Smashy wants in their levels but it doesn't mean you should complete adhere to it.
What do YOU want and what is fun for YOU.
While a lot of people might talk about PIck-A-Door as negative a lot of people liked Teleporter mazes or others like more cautious underwater dark levels sometimes lit up more.
Just do it well, since most of the stuff in this video referenced it at the worst but otherwise would be amazing if done in the right level or situation.
Thanks for giving me *40* ideas for my levels!
Oh no
You have made-a your last level.
I am going to wahoo you into the sun.
3
2
1
Lets a go
I try to combine Most of them :p
You monster
I'm gonna have to see your maker liscense
2:59 you had me for a second there
2:28 People are still making Refreshing Levels because there's still people who actually give them likes
Whoever keeps liking those levels, I hope they're on a watchlist now
Haha true
People who make Refreshing levels have no rights
Whenever I look for a 3d world level I find these :/
I hope you are on a watch list
NEW, I'm looking at you
"Don't hide power-ups, like a star."
The Golden Coliseum: no
And while we're at it ...just don't even put enemies, no obstacles either....just a straight shot to the goal.
On number 38 I would say that it can be okay to make labyrinths as long as you give the player lots of room and lots of time. It can be fun and rewarding to find the exit. These work well in ghost houses as many players feel more accomplished after completing the level. :D
The problem is when the labyrinth feels unfair or ridiculously hard just because of poor design
7:54 (35)
I kinda disagree with this.
Sometimes can be dark underwater better than normal one, because its be make more sense like underwater cave.
Man door hand hook car door
Tru
Nobody likes slow swimming. Nobody likes not been able to see. So, at least, put an item that the player can grab
Honestly, I mean it's one thing not to be a troll about it, but completely avoiding making a valid water, dark, or water and dark level is just limiting the creator.
Water levels exist people, it's not usually a surprise from most thumbnails...don't act like nobody can make these levels
@@masterofadapting what
Number 29: Unobtainable Power-up
The "Get a Life!" series: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
The "Get Big or Go Home" series: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
“Please don’t make long pipes too long, so that Toad doesn’t die from old age.”
Me: BAAHAAHAA!
That one though! 👌
Used this video for level inspo. Thanks for all of the ideas! :)
If I really think about these. Some of the thing you talk about can be use in a good way.
1)Offscreen thwomp can be use in a good way. That is using it to activate a block to drop power up for player or be use for a mini puzzle.
5)Pick a random door can be using in funny way to fool player to think there is a trap. When there is no trap and all door send them to same place any way. Also reward them a power up for going into it.
6)Naked pipe... Umm... Kaizo and auto level often does this.
22)Long clear pipe be use to let use know what they up against or use it as being part of a pokemon music show case.
27)As much people don't like ideal of killing Yoshi. But some time it can be made in a way that you have to save Yoshi to clear a level.
29)Unobtainable power up can be use as hint to guide user to know where to go. I find few level that does this.
32)Enemy in ? block can be use for puzzle level.
The pick a door thing gave me an idea that you pick a path, you can win through whichever you choose, but some might have more paths.
Yeah, subvert everyone's expectations. Make it obvious it's pick a path but don't tell them that all the answers are right lol
@@DubberRucks I can imagine somebody saying “it’s this one” and somebody else says “they’re tricking you it’s this one”
Infinite iq
Unfortunately most people would see the doors and immediately stop playing and boo the level.
You're better off doing this via a red-coin level looking setup so that way it looks like you're collecting coins and players won't expect the worst.
I will make that
Smashy: Don't make dark underwater levels
Me: Desbug needs that does of lil timmy tho
Yah. He said do himself. He needs more little timmy levels
Dark underwater autoscrolling 1-1 with enemy spam and a sub-world where you go to the left
Imagine if Smashy and Desbug collaborated.
Dark underwater levels can be fun if made correctly
@@ayo.2022 what's wrong with going to the left
"dont kill yoshi"
troll levels: *interesting*
Thanks for the level building ideas!
Thanks for giving me 40 ideas for my levels! :)
This video's title shoud be:
"40 thing YOU NEED to put in your troll level"
Ultimate clickbait.
People who make levels for Dashie:
I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that...
Alternate title: 40 musts for Dashie levels only
NEEEEEXXT
2:38 that’s actually true, I don’t get why people love these levels so much, also THE NOISE!
We all know that those with the IQ of antivaxers are the only ones who like or make these.
I dont know how some high noise spam can get rid of your headache
IKR
BRL
Same
4:53 more like "so that the player doesn't waste time"
Alternative tittle: 40 Things you must do in Mario Maker 2
Smashy: don’t make tight levels. Also smashy: makes insanely tight level
Alternate title:
how to make an edless easy/super expert level
???
@@anawesomedude4358 in mario maker there is an endless mode for each difficulty (easy, normal, expert, and super expert)
@@nicholasmattoni920 I know
Minor dispute with #17--I think Bomb Excavation can be fairly fun if used in conjunction with a boss fight of sorts. For example, having to excavate 3-4 layers of blocks surrounding the axe in a castle level while dodging flames and bullet bills coming at you. It'd have to be done correctly of course.
The refreshing levels can be dangerous, because people can have epilepsy crisises
7:54 Is number 35 just telling you to not make dark underwater levels. There are ways to make it so it can actually be a good level.
6:30 "get a life!" levels been real quiet after this
Tbh, it's not a bad idea
"get big or go home" series
Lol I watched Arrowstotle’s video first and the end said “Watch the video on screen to learn 40 things not to build” then it showed his March Creator Contest, I rewatched it and it got fixed to this video
At the beggining of my SMM2 career, I was bad, but I learned from my mistakes and now I do masterpieces.
Like... Bowser's Big Bean Burrito 2? ;)
@@divVerent yes lol! Jk, you probably know Buritobob, it's me in SMM2
Troll levels: "I'm gonna pretend like I didn't see that"
I hate people who steal comments, and then get more likes than the original.
40 things you shouldn't build.
Little Timmy: This sign can't stop me because I can't read!
1:25 Troll levels makers: *"How 'bout I do it anyway?"*
ruclips.net/video/yWULCfJ2PGA/видео.html
@@buglab2285 whats that
@@thatonemuffin4570 how bout i do anyway the actual phrase just click it
actual courses: **are good and have actual reasoning**
refreshing courses: bonjour
2:27 endless easy: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that
Nimi Dahav I see u watch desbugs endless easy playthrough
Catherine Ling nope. This is from my personal experience.
???
7:27
Dont Build this please...
Smashy: Uploaded a Tight Level
“We all love our good friend Yoshi. Please don’t kill him.”
I love my good friend Bowser and he’s not being treated kindly.
Don't kill Yoshi. Force player to do that.
Smashy: Don’t build these things.
Little Timmys and Troll Creators: I’ll ignore that.
6:40 "don't put unobtainable power ups "
Get a life level joins the chat
Stolen comment
@@fusiondraws7482 Did you ever know that is is possible that two people can come up with the same idea? No? Well now you do.
@@fusiondraws7482 that depends how close does it look
@@happysentences9721 literally exactly like it
@@fusiondraws7482 ....... Well then I h- u know what u win
Me: *watches video*
Also me making a new troll level: I know what I'm about to do
You literally just told me 40 things I love about Mario maker levels
These creators are super kind. I can’t think of one - hard - level which doesn’t have at least one of these
Troll level makers: *how about I do anyways?*
Me: you just dont exist
Ya'll know someone will do all of these
Hehe... i sure will
You have more likes than smashy’s comment, nice
hmm, so how do you make an empty level with a lot of progress loss and a demo 1-1 remake?
1:19 *Pegi wants to know your location.*
This is little timmy’s guide to making “good” levels
Although most things in here are a great idea to mention, I strongly disagree with some of them :
1. #12 Refreshing stages : I personaly don't like them, but they seem to be very popular, so the community spoke : they are ok.
2. #35 Dark underwater stages : "underwater levels are not most fun levels" that's just your opinion and taste, like refreshing stages. The problem is with the dark option, in water or not, in that you can hide some pretty big dangers that won't glow. Let's say they are hard to make well, but can be very very nice when everything inside is balanced.
3. #36 Ugly design : I agree on all you say, but the level you show looks actually fun to play. Is it ugly if the gameplay is good ? The switch is the very embodiement of the answer no. Just like with people, fun is beautiful.
4. #37 Upside down Kaizo : I just don't get your point there. I love these. Just a matter of opinion and taste again.
5. #38 Labyrinth : when not well done, they are easy to skip ; when well done they can be the most fascinating experience. Downside is that most players want a quick reward, and mazes make you think a lot for it. They're just a subgenre of puzzles. As all genres they can be well done of not.
Except these 5, that's still 35 points that all new makers should be told before they start posting (hello enemy spam, empty levels, dev exits...), so thanks for making it !
Kaizo makers: I'ma pretend I didn't see that.
Imagine he misses the jump at 4:18 and the time runs out
“Don’t upload sample courses”
I uploaded them all and got 20-30 likes on each of them.
No.22 Clear pipes are super fun to play with in the 3D World style, but avoid making them too long, so Toad doesn't die of old age!
Apart from the labrynth and a few others, most of the stuff is used in many of the best kaizo and generally hard levels. How many times has CarlSagan42 and Juzcook gotten a kaizo fish to the head 😆
FreakandGeek has too in plenty of her vids lol...
FEEEESH!
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🐟
7:34 put this on 0.25x then you can hear the SM64 slide theme
So this was sped up 4x a it's still slow
Thank You For This Cool Reference
@@greninja5303 , lol
Lol
@@greninja5303 , lol 👌
Troll levels: I am gonna pretend I didn’t see that
I think due to entry 27 one of the of the dislikes was from Grandpoobear.
SFX spam is really good tho
Both for my eyes and ears
But everywhere i look i see a refreshing stage. Refreshing stage here, refreshing stage there, refreshing stages everywhere!
Troll creators: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that
Hot Garbage Creators: This Is All Art
Troll levels & Little Timmy: Imma pretend I didn't see that.
Little Timmy learned what not to do
8:13 the entire word document when you move a picture 0,000000000000001mm
it's so annoying
"dont make huge progress lost"
chinese levels: ill ingnore that
???
British Levels: remember that video
@@adamsanhaie1088 ???
Um
@@adamsanhaie1088 um what???
Change the title to "40 things that lead to instant boos in SMM2"
someone needs to make this entire video into a level
Actually my Levels are challenge based levels so I know how hard it feels also invisible blocks are only for
1:Hidden paths (With doors)
2:Hidden op power-ups
3:Easy win (with doors)
Also thx for making this I've decided to cancel my upslide down level
I have to disagree with #14: not everyone loves 1-1 levels with a twist because those twists are usually just putting the game in another style or adding 1-2 Also we do not want to see each other's merit because most people who would make these also have enemy spam levels with dev blocks/exits and flat nothingness for the rest of the level
Don't you disagree on #6 and #20 as well? I mean those aren't bad.
troll levels: if they could read they would be very upset
0:29 don't make softlock
Bearware level crate suc : am i a joke to you ?
8:52 Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Subtitles: Death
Ruined the comment with "nobody"
For #20, I would upload template corses as *random level #* so people could play those template levels again.
I know it might be annoying, but it’s for good, not for bad.
3:06 I make 1-1 remixes with twists no other uses.
I feel many streamers and some players might disagree with some of your list... some love to never save yoshi and a kazio block well placed isn’t completely bad and can be funny (if timed correctly). Each individual is different and appreciates different things!
I’m gonna build whatever I want
2:27 THATS SO TRUEEEE
There not bad just give them a chance
@@ShyGuy141Alt no offense or shit but first of all, they hurt my damn eyes, they appear all over the damn “popular section” and they are not fucking fun like a ground pound then do nothing.
I’m getting Super Mario Maker 2 on thursday and thanks to you Smashy, now I know what I shouldn’t build. Thank you 👍
Alternte title: Super Everyone but me makes these kind of levels maker 2. (Even though I did make a level where you ride in a pipe, but I did give a warning to not play and I added meowser, bros, bloopers, pom pom, sound effects, and bonus music to make it interesting!)
The only times I use dev exits are in the levels I make where you have to die to win
This video should be called "How to make a troll level"
3:18 Уоєиан Тоіъєа
8:13
Man is in the farlands
This whole level: Don't be a troll level maker
Troll level makers: This sign can't stop me, I can't read!
Radom things everywhere = Littel Timmy level