Avant-Garde Film And Its Influence On Hollywood

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2022
  • Avant-Garde films experiment with new ideas and techniques that are implemented into mainstream Hollywood filmmaking. In this video essay I use the example of director Satoshi Kon's film Perfect Blue and how it influenced Darren Aronofsky's Black Swan, and others.
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  • @emma1004
    @emma1004 Год назад +176

    i never knew perfect blue was such a commercial disappointment!!! i’m super happy it’s gotten a cult following though, because it’s such an amazing film and deserves a second life

    • @carpiioo.806
      @carpiioo.806 Год назад +9

      me too! It's one of my favorite films and I never even knew about how much it made... It's been getting more popular though because of all the video essays about it, maybe its net profit now is much higher? (Idk much about terms regarding the money a film makes 💀☠☠)

    • @adnarim2031
      @adnarim2031 Год назад

      i agree, and it's so surprising that it flopped too because i feel as though everyone i've talked to who has watched loves it!

  • @skinnylove831
    @skinnylove831 Год назад +59

    When I watched Perfect Blue a few years ago, I scoured the internet for any kind of fanbase it might have, and didn't find much... so, it's good to see it getting popular. Satoshi Kon was incredibly talented.

    • @baby.nay.
      @baby.nay. Год назад +5

      I had no idea it was unpopular. I feel so lucky to have gone to art school at a time where we vigorously shared our gems and interests with one another . I found out about so many amazing anime through friends back then

    • @skinnylove831
      @skinnylove831 Год назад

      @@baby.nay. maybe it's because I live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere cause, even now, I only ever hear names of super popular anime and those too are only known within like the "geeks" or "nerd" cliques

    • @beemoh
      @beemoh Год назад

      @@baby.nay. I'm not sure how "unpopular" it is, but it's certainly "pre-internet fandom"- the film even has to explain what the internet even *is* to one of the characters, and it wouldn't have been too far out of lockstep with the real world at the time.
      If anyone did do any fanart or convention meetups at the time, the photos were probably printed from film and languish in an envelope in a box at the back of someone's wardrobe (if they've not been lost or thrown away) rather than nicely hashtagged on some social media site- even if there were websites they were probably on free hosting like Geocities which has been long dead, and the people who did it might well have just lost interest in anime since.
      That said, I stumbled across a fairly recent fan performance, in cosplay, of Ai No Tenshi, so maybe it's out there if you look hard enough.

    • @nikytamayo
      @nikytamayo Год назад

      It's not that it was unpopular when new. It's just that the cultural impact of Perfect Blue came and went before the rise of internet movie forum / board discussions. It has always been a part of the conversation. Just that those conversations got pushed further and further into the background as the years have gone by and newer films have come up.
      There is a generation of anime and movie fans, however, who sat up screaming (Leonardo di Caprio Pointing dot gif) "I know that reference!" when Black Swan came out!

  • @durantan2343
    @durantan2343 Год назад +25

    Perfect Blue deserved Black Swans success. Not only a better film but a much more impactful film in regards to the themes it's talking about. Black Swan in a lot of ways was a very stereotypical look into "being a ballerina" and really is just about "perfectionism". Perfect Blue has many themes going through it that come together in a really high octane climax. It's sad that these smaller film makers whose work don't get the recognition but when I white man from Hollywood "homages" their work, he gets praised for unoriginal ideas.

  • @Prodbyjah464
    @Prodbyjah464 Год назад +26

    The third act of perfect blue made me question my own reality, shit was disorienting, and that final twist blew my mind.

  • @gilberto85210
    @gilberto85210 Год назад +17

    Satoshi Kon changed my life.

  • @michaelhsparksshorts
    @michaelhsparksshorts Год назад +33

    Great video!! Excited to see more! I’ve always loved Perfect Blue and Satoshi Kon, what a shame his work didn’t receive the recognition it deserved upon release

  • @Lier345
    @Lier345 Год назад +3

    Awesome stuff mate. Look forward to more content in the future cause its top notch👍

  • @lycosidaee
    @lycosidaee Год назад +5

    i really liked this! Super insightful :) Excited to see if you’ll make more projects like these in the future

  • @smkh2890
    @smkh2890 Год назад +4

    A lot of technical innovation came from French filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard.
    The jump-cut is now ubiquitous, but before Godard, it was a mistake!

  • @sarahthompson8098
    @sarahthompson8098 Год назад +4

    excellent content quality!

  • @wasabipea57
    @wasabipea57 Год назад +1

    When Kon shows up on my recommended it’s a good day

  • @terribleflower555
    @terribleflower555 Год назад

    Very interesting. And I like the editing style.

  • @willieluncheonette5843
    @willieluncheonette5843 Год назад +3

    The most really underground film that influenced Hollywood the most is Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising IMO

  • @zxshd
    @zxshd Год назад +3

    Awesome video! I've watched both requiem for a dream and perfect blue and the bathtub scene was terribly much the same though I still think both films are great, especially at really showing insanity and psychological torment. But now, I might look into Aronofsky more, especially with where he got his ideas. Thanks for making me more aware about it.
    also A+ for the lupin iii music choice ;)

  • @Trakinasnove
    @Trakinasnove Год назад +17

    Great video. Avant-Garde filmes were always pioneers in things they showed before mainstream films and even how they shot some stuff. Perfect Blue is one of my favorite films ever, and its nice to see more people discovering it, even if its as 'homage' in lesser films.

  • @vanillasteamerenthusiast
    @vanillasteamerenthusiast Год назад

    the lupin III theme playing in the back really makes it honestly

  • @monkey_eyes3334
    @monkey_eyes3334 Год назад +2

    I very much agree with this.

  • @thehumblewolf
    @thehumblewolf Год назад +1

    Came here to like just because you made a great thumbnail lol

  • @AkiVainio
    @AkiVainio Год назад +5

    Are you really making the point you set out to make with this specific example? Sure, Black Swan is technically a Hollywood movie, but it is Fox Searchlight, so only tangentially from what was at the time the Big Six. Sure, it found mainstream success, but that was hardly given as Aronofsky had only had middling success previously and while Natalie Portman was well-known, she had pretty much carried only V for Vendetta up to that point. Sure, comparisons of these movies is interesting, but linking that to how Hollywood operates as a whole is hardly the conclusion you should come to from this.

  • @PlanetYokoshima
    @PlanetYokoshima Год назад

    Intellectuals find profit films tasteless and the common find meaningful films incomprehensible; I say this from experience...

  • @melonusk6120
    @melonusk6120 Год назад

    good video , please take closer edit on the sound balance. my eardrums exploded on some instances.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots Год назад +4

    nadia is one of those animes that pretty much has been ripped off as many times as perfect blue
    once in grandia and again in atlantis the lost empire

    • @Hekai
      @Hekai Год назад

      even the pokemon anime completely ripped it off lmao (except if it comes from mutual inspiration)
      and i think that Evangelion got even more ripped off, just take a look at aot, everything's the same except it's worse

    • @Mialikesthings
      @Mialikesthings Год назад

      @@Hekai what AOT did not rip off NGE for 1 the way titans are made and the history of them are vastly different 2 titans eat humans angels just appear from space and kill them by stomping them or using their powers 3 the main characters are not even similar at the least bit all the characters have different stories in the two Shows
      Also just cause beings attack on earth in both shows doesn’t make them similar as there are multiple shows that do that

    • @Mialikesthings
      @Mialikesthings Год назад

      I would also like to know why you hate AOT if you don’t mind 😊

    • @tarun_kumar_29
      @tarun_kumar_29 Год назад +1

      ​@@Mialikesthings It's not just "beings attacking Earth", that's similar. The entire point of the main character, to find out who they both are, their true selves. From having to control the very beings they despise, to ending the world as a consequence of finding the truth. As for the world, humans are forced to live within a closed-off city/fortress, as a consequence of a tragic event that happened years ago. The nape of Titans holding the human, while Evas having the entry plugs in the exact same spot. The characters witnessing certain events in a similar fashion and having certain quirks in both stories. There's plenty of connections.
      Also on a side note, Hekai never mentioned that they "hated' Attack on Titan.

    • @Hekai
      @Hekai Год назад +1

      @@tarun_kumar_29 thx bro for the side note tho xD

  • @smkh2890
    @smkh2890 Год назад +1

    Maybe the theme of the dark double , doppelganger or evil twin goes back to Dostoevski's novel 'The Double' .
    This was taken up by Nietzsche and Freud, but i wonder if it didn't originate further back.

  • @ticksnpollen
    @ticksnpollen Год назад

    your in edds wourld

  • @meme_me
    @meme_me Год назад +3

    the director never even mentioned where he got inspired from which Is a big red flag... I would never watch any of his movies/series

  • @canti7951
    @canti7951 Год назад +2

    calling perfect blue avant-garde lmao