Ruger 22/45 Mk. III problem
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- @BigAgitator I think that I am experiencing the same problem as tkolk13, since my mainspring assembly (??) won't pull away from the back of my handgrip more than about 1/2" or 5/8". This is completely contrary to how easily you extract it at 32s in your video. I'm currently at a complete loss as to how to restore my pistol to service, so I hope you can help!
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Exact same problem as in the video. What worked for me was what was said in an earlier post. Turn the gun upside down with the magazine in and pull the trigger and hold it in. Then I tapped the upside-down barrel between the sights with a mallet and I heard something rattling inside. I removed the magazine and while still holding the gun upside down I easily swung the housing latch open and then pulled downward and the mainspring housing and bolt stop pin came out easily. "Hammer must be uncocked before pistol can be disassembled".
THAT"S PERFECT >>> IT WORK FOR ME !!!!!!!
Man to Man.... I Love You Bro... Worked for me too. Thanks.
Awesome tip. Make sure the safety is off or it won't work.
Jeff! You are awesome! Worked perfect. I was sociopolitical worried.
Thank you! Just saved our night!
I have a Ruger Mark 3 22/45 and had the exact same problem as the guy in the video. I turned the gun upside down with the mag in, and kept the trigger pulled. I then used my rubber mallet and tapped the barrel a few times and the problem was solved. It is a trick of the trade that most people (including me) did not know and I am sure most gunsmiths don't want us to know.
This will help with Proper reassembly.
I found the Issue. I had the same problem with my 2245 and its extremely frustrating. The main issue is watching the videos online on how to disassemble/assemble. They leave out tiny details that will not lead to a proper assembly and function.
i had the exact same problem in this video. What you need to do is follow the manual exactly!
1. have the hammer flat in the rear position when you insert the slide bolt,(not too far back just flat, also make sure the slide lock is in the down position)
2. Insert the mainspring housing with the gun pointing down with magazine inserted
3. at this point look into the rear of the grip and make sure the hammer is fully FORWARD now
4. (this is where i messed up i still had the gun pointing down. ALSO make sure you can see the Hammer Strut. its a skinny piece of metal hanging from underneath the hammer. The hammer strut needs to fall into the oval cutout behind your mainspring housing) Have the gun pointing towards the sky, holding down the trigger with mag still in the pistol, close the mainspring housing as much as you can. (it wont go in all the way)
5. with gun still pointing up (you probably noticed that you werent able to push the mainspring housing in all the way no matter how hard you tried) remove the magazine. ( now you should be able to close the mainspring housing).
HOPEFULLY IT WORKS OUT: My pistol is a Ruger 22/45 Mk 3 stainless steel 5.5 inch barrel, no mods.
+Marvin Espinal (MarvinatorT4000) This totally worked!!! Thanks man!
No problem. Now we can get back to loving our 22/45's unconditionally :) happy shooting!
THANK YOU A MILLION ! For posting that, I was fighting mine back together and found your reply. saved my arse ! THANK YOU !
Thought I was heading to the gunsmith....just like you said....it's the little details that are left out that get you in trouble....thanks for the excellent advise! That and what someone else posted about getting the mainspring un-jammed make me a happy Ruger Camper once again!
Marvin, 2 years after you posted this comment it saved me a lot of frustration. Thank you sir!!!
Rubber mallet to the back then re-cock and fire, remove mag disassemble. Ruger tries to have very close and tight tolerances so their guns are very well made. Due to the clearances and tolerances being in the 1000ths of an inch it can feel tight trying to get them apart for the first time.
For the most part any Ruger firearm that does not come apart easily a rubber mallet is the answer. Stay away from the screwdrivers unless you are using it to remove a screw. Prying has literally fixed nothing without breaking something else. The gun comes apart that way so if it isn't coming apart reassemble and smack something with a rubber mallet. It helps to study the design and how it functions before taking any gun apart.
I studied the 1911 design and built one and have modified a lot of parts as well as hand made a lot of the parts of one. I can field strip it in about 30 seconds and some looser ones I've done it a lot faster. The Mark Series pistol requires a bit of design study to fully understand how that funky piece is suppose to work and if it gets stuck like that you will know what it likely is stuck on and know what to do.
Working on guns is like working on a car. You will certainly make mistakes but the more you work on them the better you are at it and the more you understand the design and possible problems of what is causing it.
Why it started working "funky" is because you lodged the part more that was resisting you by prying it. Some pins can be hard to get out or install but for the most part once you release a disassembly lever on any gun it falls apart without the need to pry anything.
Beat my head into the ground and hurt all of my fingers trying to figure this out. Thanks so much for the advice here everybody.
Good grief. 12 years later and I'm stuck in the same position. Exact same symptoms. I'm at my wits and and about visit a gunsmith. Found this video and the tip about the upside down tapping. Didn't work first three times and again I'm about to give up when finally on the fourth try success! Thank you!. Only thing is now I'm afraid to re-assemble because I've never had this issue before in the 13 plus years I have owned this gun and I'm scared to have it happen again. Because I really thought I'd gotten it re-assembled correctly.
You sir, are a genius! I was 5 minutes from packing my 22/45 up and sending it to Ruger. I saw you post, turned my gun upside down, pulled the trigger, hit the barrel with a big rubber mallet, and my gun was back in service. Thanks very much!
Help comments are wonderful! Tx lots
Maybe it's fixed by now, however that hammer tang seems to have lodge further up in the mainspring assembly. Unlatch the mainspring tilt the muzzle up with a magazine in and pull tge trigger and the bolt assembly back and forth. Objectively trying to free the dingus that is trapped, no muscle just jiggle those components and it should free the hammer tang (dingus)
+Teddy ruxbin Thanks Teddy! I was cleaning my Mark III while chatting with my bud the other day. I re assembled incorrectly. Your comment saved me so much time!
Words cannot express how glad i am that i found this video (or rather the comments with the solution). I thought my 22/45 was done for.
The fix of turning upside down and tapping work perfectly! You saved me the cost of a gunsmith intervention. Thanks!
Thanks for suggestion in comments. point to floor with magazine in. smack rear of bolt with wood or mallet while pulling trigger. worked perfect.
That worked for me. thank you sir.
worked for me too
I Had this Same Problem Yesturday! I was so pist, i was about to grab Vise And Big SrewDriver After 2 Hours I calmed down and figured it out ! I grabbed my Rubber Hammer and Beat the muzzle like 3 hard times and held the trigger and it pulled out and swang easy,I found that if everything is in the right place just like they show it goes together smoothly
Jeff Cole's fix is the correct one. The hammer has to be in the forward/fired position, to release the main spring housing more than 3/8" or so. I did not see either whether the OP ever responded back to any answers. Too bad.
I was having the exact same problem you were and because you made this video and all the comments that you had I've had my problem solved. thank you for making this video bro
I just bought a new one and have fired about 150 rounds through it. Experienced numerous problems chambering rounds and stove piping. Talked to the guys at the range/store where I purchased it and they suggested giving it a complete field strip and cleaning to remove factory lube coatings. That's where the problem got worse. We had extreme difficulty getting the mainspring assembly out and we couldn't get the barrel to disconnect from the frame. There were very pronounced scars on both sides of the barrel pin. We performed some cleaning and commenced to reassemble. During this process, there was a very noticeable dragging on the slide when it was about 3/4 of the way back. I could feel and see an inconsistency on the diameter of the slide and measured it with a pair of dial calipers revealing there was a runout of .011 from one end to the other. That would explain why the gun was stove piping as the slide was encountering a dragging before it reached a full stroke and the spent brass was not getting ejected fully nor was the next round being pulled from the magazine. The gun will also not chamber the first round by releasing the slide, I had to close the slide, insert the magazine then manually pull back the slide and release quickly. The QC of machining is terrible and I have completely lost confidence that Ruger is making a quality product. Heading back to the range/store tomorrow and will make a plea for an exchange for a Buckmark.
Thanks to Karl Jones your advice worked great for me. first time taking mine apart had a few issues and followed your instructions to a "T" worked perfect!!!!
I was at my wits end till I stumbled across your video and the accompanying comments. Back in service and really thankful for you taking the time to post this obviously very common problem! Thanks!
Comments helped me solve the same problem. This pistol gets me frustrated every time I take it apart.
There is a video about this. Long story short you put in the mag, point the gun down, depress the trigger, and hit the back of the gun with something non damaging. This will knock the hammer to where it needs to be. If the bolt wont come out after you get the mainspring housing out point the gun up and hit the front a few times with your hand.
Thanks for sharing! Inherited a neglected model that had this exact problem. Worked exactly how you all shared in the comments!
FYI, the tricks to disassembling and reassembling a 22/45 is officially called the "Ruger Raindance" :)
you can do two things first insert the mag t r y to fire it keeping your fingers around the housing barrel face up shake the weapon this should disengage . if this does not work remove the mag. use a rubber gamer. place the gun on a wood board barrel down hit the top of the charging Handel a couple of time this will set the housing latch open. I just got the same gun same problem and this does work. fires fine .
Thanks for your help it worked for me........hit the back of the bolt with a mallet and I was able to disassemble the pistol.
Freeing the backstrap easy enough. Just pull the trigger and wiggle the gun up and down. Freeing the bolt action, however is a different story I have been unable to solve. I see no one has address that part of your (and mine) problem.
I didn't follow the instructions when reassembling the firearm and wound up with the same exact problem. Took the it to a local gun shop and the gun smith it was totally locked up and I needed to sent it to the manufacturer. Found this video and tried the recommended solution and it worked. Doe that make me smarter than a gun smith LOL.
Start by pulling the trigger at the same time pull the main spring arm back it should release then hit the muzzle on a firm but padded surface. You got to give a little power this will rotate caming pin so it can lock into the main spring cup like it's supposed to. If pulling the trigger doesn't free it up skip that step and hit the muzzle on the padded surface. This is how I fix the same problem. Best of luck.
I know this video is ten years old and it seems you corrected the problem. The steps are: safety check the gun with magazine in; pull the trigger; remove the magazine; remove the main spring; remove the bolt; separate the upper from the lower. Reassemble steps are: attach upper to the lower; insert the bolt; insert the main spring/bolt pin until it's fully engaged (do not rachet the spring at this point); point the barrel at the sky and insert a magazine; pull the trigger; rachet the spring back into the handle except the pointed part; release the trigger and remove the magazine; fold the last part (the pointed part) back into the handle......done. Here is a 40 second video demonstrating. ruclips.net/video/8za9QXR6Egk/видео.html Here is the longer version. ruclips.net/video/-LShRX-hTik/видео.html
I just tried the rubber hammer and it worked, thanks so much.
Like others, I was getting frustrated. Suggestions from several holding the gun upside down and tapping it a few times with a mallet did the trick. Thanks for the post @pocatelloak.
Before disassembly, always cock the pistol and dry fire it to get the hammer forward. As you say, since you have it back together, hold it muzzle down and with the magazine in, pull the trigger and hold it while tapping gently on the back of the bolt to get the hammer forward. This is a religious issue folks. THOU SHALT HAVE THE HAMMER FORWARD BEFORE DISASSEMBLY. Marvinator, this video doesn't show disassembly so it's not much good for reassembly. I figured it out a long time ago but I always get a Tandemkross hammer bushing to simplify things and get the magazine popping out properly.
logan pollock thank you very much you have to save me a lot of time great great information fix the problem now it's working
Ruger won't even let you send back to them and has discontinued production from what I'm hearing
I'm having the same problem. My dad just bought me one for Christmas. I don't fully get it until I can takedown and reassemble it. I'm freaked out because I don't wanna break the thing before I even get to try it out.
Yeah. Just an idea, but 1. put the mag back in, 2. hold the gun upside down, 3. pull the trigger back and hold it there, 4. tap the top of the gun on the ground. It may raise the hammer and allow you to remove the bolt stop.
Thanks Man. you just save my day. :-)
Just wanted to say thanks for the video enter the folks who offered advice. I had the same issue and the posted solutions fix the problem.
Worked like a charm. Thank you so much. I had already spent an hour on it. This took 20 seconds.
Hammer strut (dangling thing) not seated properly. You SHOULD be able to tap the main spring housing out from the top of the gun with a wooden dowel and hammer. Check out some videos of MK3 strips or if you are old school like me read the manual that came with the gun. If all else fails sell your gun to me, I will fix her up and have it at the range in no time!
I pulled grips and pushed out sear pin and hammer pin, then removed main spring assembly. Then put all pieces back together and reinstalled main spring assembly. Seems like this happens everytime I take it apart to clean. Nothing like two hours of gunsmithing to make a great afternoon...not.
August 31 2020. Same issue, used the rubber mallet trick. Worked great
Go to Ruger Mark II field strip up close and follow his point up and slap instructions with the latch unlocked, as it just worked for me lol
@pocatelloak Based on the geometry of the hammer, it just seemed that banging the muzzle would be the most effective direction- a few sources seem to concur with that theory. However, if the other method works better, i should add a note about that to my video.
Wish I could say it worked but didn’t. Tried and failed. I’m stuck. In fact I watched every RUclips video on the subject and nothing has worked in undoing my screw up.
@pocatelloak I'm sorry- I haven't been able to yet. I'll try to get some info tomorrow but work has been pretty busy.
Worked thank you. It took me several tries but i got it. The trigger felt mushy so I thought it was that thank you
Also if you can see the hammer all try putting the mag in, hold the trigger back, and pushbthe hammer up with a paper clip or something small like that.
Can someone help? I have a 22/45 Mk.III and I can pull the bolt/ hammer back. Please respond.
thanks , got the thing apart , now i just gotta figure out how to put it back together right . nice gun , nightmare design .
I read and saw the videos of people complaining about the Ruger MK III assembly and thought "How Hard Can it Be" -
I bought one anyway.... Story Told.....This design really Sucks!
Thank youuuuuu !!!!!!!had this exact problem and this worked love this gun but the take down is pissing me off.
The problem is it's a Ruger Mark III.
I had a similar problem with the mainspring housing, I tapped it upward so it seated correctly before trying to pry it open. It just wasn't in all the way.
@pocatelloak If I can get my hands on one of these pieces for a full takedown I might make a video dedicated to this problem. Hopefully my friends at the gun shop will oblige me.
Did you figure it out If not I know it's probably been a while but there's a little dub tail in the back of the bracket It's wedged either to the left or right that's why it's not let me release it
I'm having the very same problem I need help also!
I have a similar problem, when I pull the trigger nothing happens, the bolt meets resistance when I put it in the upper receiver when the lower and upper are together. When I close the main spring it sticks out a tiny bit and I cant pull back the bolt unless I take the main spring out. I had recently taken the gun apart by installing a mag disconnect mod and slingshot mod but nothing changed, I had this problem before I modded the gun
Just had the same thing happen. Reinsert magazine, cock the pistol, dry fire. Try again. Magazine must be reinserted and cocked and fired. Then it open up without any force.
I have the same problem, very, very frustrating im going to take it to a gunsmith :(
These guns are tanks, but damn bill... You couldnt have made for a more fd up field strip.
@waysoflife88 I had a similar problem with the bolt and your advice worked. Thanks!
did you get it cuz I had the same problem just now and figured it out
Half way threw cocking the bolt, it slows, is that the sear being pulled normaly? I bought new internals and don't know if it always caught when cocking halfway back
Thanks for posting this. I got similar problem. I got it pull apart. you just save me trip to gunsmith and save some money. :-)
I'm on my way to work right now but I'll be looking at one of these 22/45s tomorrow. They're somewhat different from the mk ii. Hopefully I can figure out what's going on and report back. Don't hesitate to remind me.
Thanks
Yeah I know it’s been 10 years but did you ever do it ?😂
mind will not keep shooting for some reason like it should can someone tell me why
Make sure when your tapping it and pulling the trigger the safety is OFF... just saying.
How did you fix it mine is same way
Had the same problem with mine brand new had to go back to ruger its a defective pin for the hammer dont yank it out or you will never get it back together
i just got one that is brand new and has a similar problem. should i send it to them?
Did you get the 22/45 figured out? I have the same problem.
i have a problem with my ruger mark 1 serious help i never seen nothing like this somebody please help me out
Try pulling trigger; and messing w slide release
Thanks guys, I was at my wits end with this f*cking thing!
I had the same exact problem but the suggested fixes did not help, any other ideas
Mine is doing this does anyone know what the problem is?
I have the same exact problem with the same gun an it just pisses me off to no extent please tell me you found a fix!?
+SurvivingSlim Put mag in, point gun down, pull trigger and shake the gun downwards sharply. A robber hammer doesn't hurt to persuade it but shouldnt be necessary, there is no spring pressure preventing the hammer from rotating forward.
Some people remove the mag safety to ease the assembly quite a bit.
You are having trouble with the little pin located inside the grip. You will need to send this back to Ruger. They will fix it at no charge.
I have that same problem
noble Thor is right.
*can't
Beat you to it. HEHE
I had the same problem. Check out my channel for the video titled "Fix a Stuck Main Springhousing on Ruger 22/45 Mark III"
the gun is cocked lol
watch this video...
RUGER MARK III FIELDSTRIP (CLOSE UP)
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Ruger sucks
Honestly, at first I thought this video (after watching it all the way through) was pointless. But then I read the comment from @JeffreydCole and I was able to get mine to work.