So THAT'S WHY Y'all Wanted Me to Watch 'Grand Army'...
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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Helloooooo everyone! Welcome back. over the past few weeks I have been getting so many requests to review a new Netflix show called 'Grand Army.' I was a little hesitant at first, but now I'm hooked and I have A LOT to say. Let's talk :)
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My favourite part of Grand Army was seeing black teens just being black teens. Involved, kind, hard working in healthy relationships(for the most part) be it familial, platonic or romantic relationships.
Same I loved that, it was like the white people get the complicated weird relationship and we get wholesome (not that I want revenge or anything, it was just something I noticed)
Yesss all they black people were good.
finally not the "girlllllll bye" character or the black kid that's trying to b a rapper, it's so refreshing and that's what i love about this show
@@rosem4ry610 YESSSS!! it was so refreshing to see
completely. the fact that they made characters who were just characters independent from their colour was refreshing. no stereotypes or tropes and they still managed to keep the heritage and culture intact. props to the writers.
As an asian, while I hated Leila, I LOVED seeing an asian character be anything other than a nerd/dork, like seeing an Asian sociopath almost made me cry tears of joy because her story was so complex, and seeing the story of Sid and his family has never made me feel more seen in my life.
LMFAOO “seeing an asian sociopath made me cry tears of joy” 😭😭 but fr, i get that, it’s so nice to see people who look like you being more than just props or cliches
Ok wait this...
Glad I’m not the only one who thought Leila was a sociopath
ROFL 🤣. That's something you don't hear to often. I am happy that someone who looks like me is a sociopath. 😆
@@zzzzf99309 please expound? on why i’m actually curious i never thought of that
it actually scares me how realistic Leila's character is.
Yesss girls are like this
yes omg
It was incredibly disappointing because her art was so great
@@compaq2618 pick me girls*
It scares me that we share a name 😳
I absolutely HATED Leila, but I do think she portrays *a lot* of teenagers who think the world revolves around them.
I hated what she did but i couldn't bring myself to actually hate her. I know she's a good person deep down and I think she just needs a lot of help.
@@lovedogfm Yeah that's true. She's very naive and she tries sooo hard to be liked.
definitely
Meeee tooooo. She was a pick me
@@lovedogfm Same here. Even after all the fucked up shit she did I couldn't hate her because I know that her behaviour is caused by trauma. She clearly has struggled with her identity her whole life and has had experiences others can't relate to. That being said, she needs to fix up before she causes some real harm. She could easily become VERY destructive to many people.
Dom was adultifed. I'm glad in the end her mother and sister let her be the child for once
She was giving me Capricorn rising.
@@user-rb4gq2rx8n As a Capricorn rising... I agree 😭
@@user-rb4gq2rx8n YESSS SHES DEFINITELY A CARPICORN i also see Joey as an Aries
shes very much mature i luv dom sm
Girl I cried at that part
I don’t like Leila, BUT I did feel for her in the beginning because the emotions she felt WERE valid as a freshman girl. That loneliness, uncertainty and jealousy... but her actions tho...FUCKING DESPICABLE
I feel the same. She had me in the first half ngl
Right like she went down the wrong road
Exactly
As someone who was a freshman a couple months before the show was on : I personally felt bad but mostly angry at her because of the validation she felt she needed, but I also don't really try to intentionally judge her because I've been told many times that I'm crazy independent and like a wall that can't be broken by people and kind of a social outcast thats still social so I can see why I don't need their validation, but others can't. I also feel bad for her because before Covid-19, when I was a freshman I saw it happen with many girls needing validation from guys and it's really disheartening that this is a reality.
Trueee, she was so relatable at first and insecure, and that was okay until she started taking it out on the others and hurting others because of it
I really loved Dom's interview for the internship, especially when she explained how in this society and in her family she was never allowed to be angry, either because she'd be painted as an "angry black woman" or ungrateful. It's always refreshing as someone who is foreign to these subjects to be introduced to them, and be allowed to comprehend and empathize with someone whose experiences are so different to my own
same it felt so raw & relatable
It was a beautiful scene I felt it
SAME. I got a little emotional when she had the interview
ikrrr
@Junior thank you 😊
Leila's actress is so good everyone hates her character
ACT-IIIIING
That's when you know she's doing her job right.
RIGHT
Do people actually hate the actress? That's laughable😂 it's a testament to her acting and the writing
I hate Leila so much that she makes me forget she is just character.
I hated all of joeys “friends” they were all so fake! The only real group of friends portrayed was Dom’s group. They supported each other no matter & it was lovely to see.
That girl, Anna, in Joey’s friend group was an ass.
@@apa.3400 yeah your right she didn’t even believe Joey
@@Jenna-hk8db to be fair, her brother was in the car and she probably would have never thought her friends could do something like that (even tho it was clear George and Luke were pigs)
But as a girl, she didn't believe Joey which sucks.
I liked Rachel, Leila’s friend. She called her out on her bullshit.
I said the SAME THING.
Can we talk about the amount of black characters on the show the fact that they had archs were not stereotypical to being just good at sports and in to the streets trying to be rappers or a side kick to move the plot along was refreshing. I literally thought one of them would die off lol. If you watch other shows in this genre like degrassi or skins you'll understand what I mean. I loved this show and loveddd Dom
YES EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!! I’m tired of those stereotypical Black roles! The Black boys loving and performing music instead of drugs/trouble was just so beautiful to finally see
and the fact that one of the main characters was a black boy in a nuclear family that’s was doing well... AND HE WAS INTERESTED IN MUSIC THAT WASN’T ONLY HIPHOP!
@@fantadior3125 right 😭😭
Why Skins though? Jal Fazer was none of those stereotypical things. In fact, that's one of the reasons I loved Skins when I first watched it.
@@davidb5205 wasn't she only there for two seasons hiding a pregnancy and really had no other arch than being Chris gf and also Skins has a predominantly white cast definitely not as much diversity as this. Degrassi is similar to me too they did Hazel dirty.
the fact that jay and owen PAID DOM BACK and she made it clear she didn't want anything serious to happen to them too
I disagree. she didn't do enough after the fact.
@@alleniversonisabeast I know. The entire time i was screaming Save them if you feel bad.
@@alleniversonisabeast What could she do?
Yep why couldn't she have just refused to testify
right. i get she missed the deadline to get the kids in a daycare but THEY PAID HER BACK. i would’ve been upset but i would’ve refused to go further after that.
The silence during Jaysons' black power fist at the end was so powerful. It was heavy, spittin the heavy truth behind it. It melted my heart.
its a black power fist
FR that was deep
And when his grandpa smiled
@@forksssss8483 Yess omg i loved it
I ugly cried so hard watching that
anyone with sense could tell joey was suffering she didn't even look like her lively self anymore, if anna was a real friend she would've noticed.
Right! And then she wants to get mad at Joey and blame her for lying as if Joey had not be going through emotional suffering the whole entire week. Connect the dots!
PERIOD
I think Anna definitely noticed but didn't want to accept what she was seeing so she willfully ignored it.
@@theladynim2 i agree, she was in utter denial in the episode where tim admitted what he saw, when they all met at that park
Anna DID notice, after Joey had the panic attack in the auditorium they went to the nurses office and saw the bald patches Joey had in her scalp from pulling her hair.
No lie, Dom’s storyline was so stressful! Like I was actively stressed out during that episode where she’s doing that job interview. The actress that played her did an amazing job, I’m curious to see what she’ll do next.
Who you telling the surprise party scared the shit out of me lmao I was like omgg what is next
Ikr
She has to work super hard
Makes me grateful for having privilege
@@DMusicLove0910 fr!!! I had to pause that shit
@@ed7069 forreal l legit jumped when they said surprise like it was a horror movie lmao
She played that scene so well! It was AMAZING. She had to remember so many lines all in once and hit every emotion at every phrase. Even the crying was phenomenal. Obviously not something oscar nominating but it's the fact that she portrayed a real emotion probably lots of others go through and how her character would.
as a latina/hispanic it was so refreshing to see minorities in their actual light because usually it's so SO stereotypical ie Leila being an asian woman who is NOT extremely smart or "abg" and although it's unfortunate how fast Dom is required to grow up to just live it's very realistic. A lot of minorities specifically black women are always thrown into adulthood way quicker than they should be. As well as Sid being thrown into coming out. I really enjoyed seeing realism in diversity in this show instead of having poc and lbgt ppl be used as background characters to average white main characters
IKR
EXACTLYY! There are so many shows where they have many different races, but then the white person is the main character 🤦♀️ or like you said, they are background characters and don’t have as much importance as the white characters 🤦♀️
Everyone’s talking bad about Leila but no one is calling out Grace for being a jealous bully all because George wanted Leila over her
!!!!
this!!!!
RIGHT. she was mad at Leila when George came onto her first and wanted her first like how does that work?
grace was literally so annoying, she fr acts like a child.
@@chaaaargh and she defended George and Luke and accused Joey of lying
grand army is one of the only shows abt high-school that is actually realistic like they way they talk, dress, post, text etc..
Yes!! one thing i loved was how when they texted it wasn’t like an old man talking. they actually had real previous conversations in the phones too
yesss the new york lingo/aave and the texts were perfectly depicted!!!
Fr imo this show and Never Have I Ever have like the most accurate teens. Maybe it's just me, but when I was in high school (I graduated in 2019) most kids I knew cared more about getting into all city band, or studying for APUSH, or like going to Model UN conferences; not smoking "jingle jangle" or whatever the heck those riverdale kids up to. Also, these kids are actually doing their homework and not getting into Harvard for no damn reason! (I'm looking at you kissing booth👀)
@@christicat221b yesss i love never have i ever
plus the way they look, they look like actual teens not a bunch of 25 year olds posing as teenagers like riverdale or smth
Joey still gives me white, performative feminism, and each time she was called out either online or in-person she would scroll past it or ignore it. Each time one of her bummy friends would be plainly sexists, misogynistic, and bigoted and she'd act like it didn't happen, wouldn't even correct them. She plainly annoyed me. I felt really bad for her though when she was assaulted. I was pissed when Tim said "that's just joey" after she reported the incident like he was an eyewitness and didn't support her when he was questioned...like dude you watched her cry as she was assaulted. Anna PISSED ME OFF talking bout some "she'll regret this", like bro, that's your Best friend! Everyone failed her. But unpopular opinion, I still think I can feel bad for her and still not like her. I want the best for her though, but I still just don't like her. I think that's why her character is great, it creates a conflicting feeling.
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I never thought about it like that I totally agree tho.
THIS!!!
i absolutely love your point of view
THIS IS THE EPITOME OF BEING AN ALDUT
i will NEVER forgive laila for taking away the attention from the peaceful protest for her own attention seeking
Yesss . She took away from the oppressed
joey’s friend were so shitty. her whole personality had changed after she was assaulted, she used to be loud and flamboyant. She became closed off and her friends called her a liar. They even condoned George & Luke’s behaviour saying it was ‘normal’ and that ‘they always do it’. I really hope she becomes friends with Dom and her friend group because she was honestly the most healthy character (and my favourite)
true
Honestly I’m praying dom and Joey become friends Bc I feel like they’d be great together and grown in general together
@@hmmmm5857 joey would have to become a better person first ngl
We'll never know that cause Grand Army's season 2 will never be released 🥲
Did anyone see the comments under Joey's "free the nipple" post? One of them said something about white girls are like "free the nipple" and black girls are like "dont kill me." I wanna hear people's thoughts on that
Omg I loved that 😂😂. If that was intentional the writers definitely made their point 👌🏾.
YES! OMG, I saw that! Literally amazing! So true! It emphasizes the stark difference between white feminism and black feminism. I really appreciate that frame/scene because as a black woman I can't be freeing the nipple all willy nilly, there are so many other issues that I have to worry about, like NOT DYING over nonsense matters. That was a really illustration of the difference between the feminism movement. Also, i was under the impression that maybe Dom wrote that.
I want to just mention how much i loved the depiction of social media in this show. It's hella realistic especially the comments under IG posts, such as the one u mentioned.
Unfortunately free the nipple doesn't apply to black girls and woman and other poc bc of racial based fetishism. They won't get celebrated for their bravery like Joey, they will only get slutshamed due to society sexualising their bodies and that's why we should stop spreading awareness for feminism from white woman's pov!
I don't wanna sound like I know everything as first, I'm not black but a middle eastern hijabi and second English isn't my native language, so if there's sth that's even slightly offensive in my post, pls tell me.
@@girlmagic8370 you're english is perfect and i completely agree. As black women there are more serious matters to worry about than freeing the nipple
@@l3mzi dom or one of her friends
The taxi driver also saw everything that happened and even locked eyes with Joey after the incident and did nothing to intervene or help
That’s dead how nyc taxi drivers be too it’s a real thing in our society that needs to change
Right I was so mad at him. Idc if joeys’s “friends” thought he was a terrorist it bothered me how he did nothing at all
Edit:He was so irrelevant in that sence that for a hit second I forgot he was even in the cab
He minded his P’s and Q’s
Facts. The LEAST he could have done was give a witness statement but nooo. It was sickening to see 😪Instead it was Joey’s word against 3. (Tim changed his mind in the end. Little late though🙄)
@Taylor R'stephens I don't believe that's entirely true. Joey was so loud and was radiating such loose energy in the cab, that in some parts I almost forgot if she is actually enjoying or is just too hammered. Either way, the two boys should be locked away because it was just a vile and disgusting behaviour, but joey was throwing herself at them, like riding them, hooking up with them and stuff which I feel like led to that. Also, I could see how her character changed as she couldn't let the boys touch her but still hung out with them, she was traumatized for shit. Tim, I don't think it was his fault, he was literally telling her to stop and he didn't want to see that shit.
Did anyone get pissed when Syd didn't defend his sister about the nudes but notice how she was in his corner (as she should be) and was hurt when he was pushed out of the closet because he felt he couldn't come to her. And like I said, she obviously should, it just pissed me off how he treated his sister AND swam with the guy who disrespected her and didn't defend her. That shit made me so mad.
Is he supposed to quit the swim team because his teammate did that? He literally fought him
@@joshjd01 he's not supposed to swim with him or report him to the principal or SOMETHING for showing child pornography in a high school. He only fought him when the the guy outted him, not when he disrespected his sister.
@@TheeOriginalLolo they had beef before which was why he was outted in the first place
@@koo-core7274 I know that, I watched the show. That doesn't make it okay
YES OMG. I liked his character growth but he really was a dick with that whole story
I'm so afraid for Dom's future... At one point in the season they mentioned Corona so I think the writers will include it in the storyline and the impact that will have on Dom (and Sid also) makes me worry for her. Dante won't be able to take shifts at the restaurant and her mother will be exhausted, I'm afraid for their financial stability
Fr that’s what had me scared asf for Dom
yes i was thinking about that too. It really worried me
yea... I was a high school senior when corona hit and a lot of internships and opportunities were lost for so many students and I really hope she still at least gets to do her internship
Istg why can't dom just get a break
don’t even get me started on Leila and all the hate she’d get for being chinese. She’s an annoying character but no ones deserves that
Also, can we talk about the person who actually STOLE the money from Dom’s wallet? If anyone deserved a more serious punishment, it would be them. But, if I’m remembering correctly, there was not an entire school court case/investigation into finding that person.
RIGHTTTT
EXACTLY
Cause there was no evidence for them too pin point who it could've been. Also, it's better to target the people who cause the wallet too fall not the person that took the money. Cause if A didn't happen B wouldn't have gotten the money.
Really the teacher really didn't allow dom to get her wallet it pissed me off
The one and only thing I really hated about doms story was that she wasn’t more vocal about how it wasn’t theft on her friends part. She just let them get the short end and that was that. Incredibly Annoying
Jay’s grandfathers little nod at the end was just 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
Agreed
I cried!!! He reminds me of my own grandfather.
Instant tears
I actually don't feel uncomfy with the way they wrote the teens for once- I'm looking at you, Riverdale.
lmaoa and yesss
Right!
Right. I love that they all have flaws, like I love Joey's character but she is so despicable sometimes! the fact that she actually makes me angry because i relate to her actions makes me so glad to have accurate portrayals tho
She dodged a bullet with Tim because if someone not wanting to be with him means he thinks it’s okay for someone to do that to that person.
Period, I hate people who praise Tim and people like him for doing the bare minimum.
Right he didn’t try to help ole girl bc his feelings was hurt like he’s crazy
Typical nice guy syndrome. No matter how "kind" they are, they are 100% aligned with patriarchy and will throw their "one true love" under the bus, to align and support other men.
Every time I saw Dom smile, my heart sang with happiness for her. I love her so much and wish that she could beat all odds. Like. Please give my girl a real break.
I swear
I agree so much! She’s literally one of the best characters on the show
Same
Bro fr
She was the only character that was worth watching it for in my opinion!
As a survivor of sexual assault too I agree 100% with your analysis of how it feels and the show did a good job of showing how society tries to put the blame on us and not the criminals
it also illustrates how incredibly complicated it is and how it can ruin the survivors life
PERIODT 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
i remember when george (haven't finished the video yet so apologies if this is in it) was like "so you wore a bra" to leila concerning joey's free the nipple protest, and despite joey herself agreeing that it was perfectly okay if you wore a bra bc it was about making female students be comfortable already exposed what george was about. For him, Joey was always an object and he hid behind his false feminism
yes!!!! George did what alot of pick me guys do. He used feminism as a way to get close to women in spaces that they should feel safe. He used feminism to earn the trust if women, just to defile and break said built trust. It's heartbreaking to see.
SOOOOO refreshing seeing a HAITIAN main character!! Dom and her family being portrayed so authentically and speaking Haitian Creole was amazing. You never see Haitian representation in mainstream. Im Haitian and have never seen a Haitian black girl as a main character and it was just so cool and healing to see. ❤️
Can we talk about how gorgeous Doms mom was
All the women in that family were stunning honestly
Yasss i couldn't stop saying and acknowledging it😩😩❤❤❤❤
OMG YES!!! I thought I was the only one who noticed that!
THE SISTER TOO
Yessss✨✨
Every time George was on screen I felt physically ill.
With that constant dumb look on his face
you know the actor is good when you really hate the character
@@malinrutten7673 I’ll never forget that feeling of that what would you do actor lmao that was my first true feeling of hating a actor
13 reasons why Bryce all over again 😂
Same and Luke like I felt nauseous
Is it just me who hated Joey? she always talked about Feminism, no homophobia, body positivity, and no racism WHILE SHE WAS BEST FRIENDS WITH THOSE MYSOGINISTIC BOYS. She even let a freshman girl get taken advantage of by her friend! HER FRIENDS WERE RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, AND MORE! AND SHE LET IT SLIDE! Joey is the DEFINITION of preformative activism.
mmhmmmm tf?
that's white feminism for you
FRR joey would laugh along and say "OMG THAT'S SO RACIST STOPPP🤪🤪" and never actually call the men out for all the fucked up shit they said. not to mention they were homophobic and called sid names like punjab and new dehli??? like I am a south asian, bisexual woman myself and those micro aggressions from luke, tim, and George that joey never called out stood out to me
@niya it does tho- didn’t you hear them say how the boys be homophobic and racist -
@niya How does it not have to do with race? White feminism refers to white women who speak over or ignore the voices/interests of women of color. Joey is a white woman excusing racism and homophobia while still calling herself a feminist. That's white feminism.
I feel like Grand Army is one of THE ONLY American show that has accurate South East Asian representation. Sid's personality wasnt just COMPLETELY based on him being Indian American but at the same time it wasn't ignored. It was quite accurate.
Isn’t Sid south Asian though? Countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc are considered South Asian, South East Asian are countries like the Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Singapore, Malaysia etc
@@NoName-dx1no yuup sid is South Asian :))
also i feel like Joey did say no, like she called for Tim. Bruh it was so messed up like the scene was so painful.
yeah i also distinctly remember her saying “please guys wait” a bunch while also calling tim. that’s a no
@@amydancer78 anything that remotely sounds close to no and is not yes just means no period
@@taylorcampbell9850 exactly! yes means yes and everything else needs clarification or for you to just stop
I'm pretty sure she literally said stop multiple times
Shes a clown for expecting Tim to help her.
Dom is the best character
Exactly
She and most of the other minorities on the show were very good and well developed characters
Her and Joey are the best characters on the show
Agreed
@@Kevin-rg3yc Joey character in the beginning was terrible and it shows. But it got better
Bruh even Dom noticed something was off with Joey and Anna was just confused why Dom was confused at that one moment in the nurses office.
I love the fact that they showcased the difference between real friends(Dom's friends) and fake friends(Joey's friends). Dom and her friends were iconic as hell. Also I love how Jay went against his own wishes to speak on important issues. Also I think as annoying as Leila is, her character is intriguing and she is a great example of what happens when you make your child believe that they are the main and only person that matters in the world. Also Dom and John were the best couple and an example that there are wholesome people that will love and accept you. I love how Dom's friends didn't give a damn that she couldn't afford things. Also the date was symbolism of her finally being allowed to be a child
this is such a solid review and detailed analysis, girl! thanks for sharing :) i loved gracie's nickname, she will forever be remembered as miss condom coochie! love your channel xxx
WAAAAAIIITTTTTT lmaoooooo
Also tysm!! ❤️❤️
OMFGGGG
Luv you keara 👁️👄👁️
@@TeeNoir tttyy
35:30 You're so right about Dom needing support and not a savior. Dom accepting John's Target discount, but not his $300 is a perfect example of this. Dom could have been nicer turning down the money though😂 We have to protect John and Dom at all costs!! this couple must survive!
They must!
I loved them so freaking much!!
@@TeeNoir May we introduce each other to each other. Hi. I am Terrell The Taurus ♉️ And I want to qualify to be your personal warrior, and friend thats friendly than any friend you ever had for ever or like you bark at me. I fear a womans bark. Because he hurt worst than a bite because words hurt. . . Me.
I agree but I didn't think he was trying to be her savoir, he was trying to help but besides that I agree with what you said.
I wish she woulda took the money tbh . I was like girl now u know ur broke ... 💀 better take it say thank you and never turn back . I respect her hustle though . I saw a lot me through Dom
Dom 🤩 being from a poor immigrant family, the pressure, the adultification, being a side mommy to siblings, the drive and hustle I loved her so much
Her hustle 👏 I love ittt
I also wanna mention the fact that Doms younger sibling did not speak the native tongue of their parents it also seems to be very common that that is the case (in America) my case as well being Black and Filipino barely knowing any Tagalog. Going home every so often to be with family in a home country I never knew how much I needed. Not being able to speak the language is such a huge disconnect. Not being able to speak to my Tita’s & Tito’s and being able to hear all the stories of my family that I’ll just never know. Having a language barrier between my mother & I the closest person to me in my life. I’ve talked to other second gen friends and they’re on the fence about teaching their children their native tongue and just do it. They need it. Its something you’ll never regret & such a privilege to be thankful for
yea the fact that I’m not fluent in my parents’ native language hurts bc I’ve rejected it in my younger life to fit in and now my culture became a big part of me, yet I can’t fully embrace it along w the fact that my parents don’t teach my sibling and I about it
I relate to this disconnect so hard, I’m Black and Filipino as well, and not being able to properly communicate with an entire half of my family is really frustrating, I know bits here and there but I’m really hoping to learn Tagalog and be fluent in it by adulthood
My parents were born in the Caribbean islands and they refused to teach us creole bec. they wanted us to be 100% French. They didnt realise that French people will ALWAYS ask us what our "origin", while assuming White foreigners have been here since 10 generations. They will ALWAYS see us as Black women, not French women.
I also hated feeling completely disconnected from my uncles, aunts and cousins when I visited the islands. Apparently, it's enough of a widespread issue that there are some Creole classes one can pay for.
Yes! Love what you said about the portrayal of Muslim characters. We are tired of the “omg I’m sick of this oppressive religion story line.” Many times this is coupled with a white savior that helps us “realize” this.
One of my favorite aspects of the show.
I didn't realize how much the show Elite fell into this problematic trope
Skam Spain did a better job with it I believe. Amira did struggle with her religion at some point and was flirting with the idea of quitting it but didn't at the end.
@Dina love there's a difference between liberty of expression and anti-muslim.
@@dc9067 but they show it EVERYTIME and always show the bad parts
john ellis was one of the only likable guys in the show. all my homies love john ellis fr
He’s such a king
facts her deserves the world
His vibes are IMMACULATE
How didn’t I notice that I said her instead of he I-
YUP
"I'm not gonna stop yelling that the forest is on fire just to single out a couple of untouched trees." is one of the best quotes I've heard this year
IKR
Why didnt they even try to find who actually took the money from Dom's wallet😐
Ikr instead of ruining someone’s futures like tf
that part
RIGHT
@@michellemahmud901 exactly, it’s just sad
Because it’s the reality. I remember when I was in middle school, I dropped my wallet without realizing it and then a friend found my wallet and brought it back to me and I discorved that my money disappeared. So I went to complain about it from the students service office and they just say that they can’t do anything for me. So disappointing asf
not a "pick me premium" 😭😭
😂
Pick Me *Plus* ™️
Okayyyy LOL!
@@TeeNoir LMAOOOOO
I'm still rolling because of this statement 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please go in on Anna and the fake, possessive friend syndrome because that is SUCH a theme not needs to die. So blinded by her own lens and wants that she couldn't see anything beyond herself.
Idk the exact line, but when Sid was talking to White boy 1 and white boy 2 and he clapped back about how he should be careful when getting into a taxi with them- I was proud to share the same name as him.
"Remind me to never get into a cab with you two" I think it was something like that
YES I was so proud of sid in that scene too. King behavior
Can we talk about how Sid used his girlfriend as a beard without telling her. Taking his circumstances into account, it’s still pretty fucked up given that she invested a lot of herself into the relationship and he was aware of this but still decided to get back together with her knowing he could never give her the relationship she truly desired.
Because like lots of teens and adults due to the hate and abuse and the STRENGTH it takes to come out- means people may be in denial. Sid knew his parents would hate him he thought everyone would hate him- he was fighting a massive battle within himself, from his perspective he loved his girlfriend in a way, just not the way he WANTED to, and it took him a long time to come to terms with that
@@dominos1529 okay and? That wasn't the gfs fault
@@Kiteattackkilo not saying it was, just explaining this side
@@dominos1529 i think its possible to empathise while also holding him accountable for how he treated her and what he put ther through. His struggles were significant and provide context for why he did what he did, but it doesnt make it okay.
I loved DOM too!!! Cause she's haitian like me... I literally cried when they were speaking creole... I've NEVER seen that on main tv... & her story was so relatable... I remember my mom constantly asking my sister to marry this guy for the same reason... she didn't... I only want Dom back...
I had to do a double take when I heard them speaking creole. I thought it was my sister and mother talking until I realized it was from the show! And you’re right about the relatability. I hardly ever see Haiti or people from Haiti shown in a good way in media.
she was my fav immediately just off the strength of her being Haitian i swearrrrr
Gosh the Créole confused the hell out of me lol. My main language is French and it's so similar sometimes and then I'm like "uh wut?"
tbh this was half the reason i watched this show i never see haitian representation and im glad i did the scene when her mom said its not fair to her made me cry
LMAOO
I also love how this show has a completely diverse cast.
There’s not a single main character here who’s a straight white boy. That’s super rare to see in ANY media so it’s super epic to see that for once, for FUCKING ONCE, we don’t have to cater the majority of the story to the straight white male audience’s perspective.
@@bamboleo6348 he's not a main character
Ummm euphoria literally did that. Same with on my block
@@user-mb9nm7bq5e Nate. He sucks but he’s a main character.
@@msfthe1st117 But is he really straight Tho 👀
@@cutie121 😂😂
As much as I appreciate Jay's protest in the end I feel like it will have no effect on Own's end and if I were Owen I'd be upset because 1. Wrong place wrong time 2. That was an opportunity meant for Owen that Jay took but didn't even fulfill. That performance could have landed Jay a college scholarship and even though it was to support Owen and highlight the differences in punishment towards black students he messed up a huge opportunity for himself. Allstate isn't going to do anything or talk with the principal or superintendent about Owen's case and I think it Jay's efforts yet noble were a waste.
Same
i see your point, but also if he does nothing, what's going to stop people from looking away when another Owen gets wrongfully punished? Who decides when enough's enough, you know? Yeah, he could go on and live a better life to honor Owen, but he chooses to fight for a better life for both of them, and I thought it was such a powerful moment. Pitting black boys against each other for opportunities to thrive is way too common, and i'm glad this show chose to have Jay remain hopeful and loyal to Owen.
@@liswane This. I felt like their music teacher was doing exactly that. Pitting them against each other. I'm glad Jay decided to fight with the community instead of upholding the "Talented Tenth" culture.
@@NationPam7 yeah, i loved that final scene in his audition, it really hits when the camera is on his granpa and he looks so proud of jay.
I see your point and mostly agree with you but I also think that Jay was so striken by guilt he would not have been able to perform well or he would not have forgive himself after the performance , evzn though at the end Owen encouraged him, he also said he wished jay called the whole thing off before, which I think also had a hand in Jay's decision
"it is always an assumed no until they say yes" thank u so much for preaching this!!! everybody needs to be taught this omfg it's so important. Also asking the question gives the other participant more space to feel comfortable saying no because they know for sure they have a choice and are not in danger if they decide they want to stop something.
Omg, as someone who is 15 and has practically RAISED my 8 and 10 uear old brother for the past 6 years I shed tears watching Dominique slowly spiral. For some you might just see a teen being stressed but for me, she was just a projection. A projection of what I will go through by the end of high school, being the first Nigerian-American in my family, first born, and only sibling with the pressure to be perfect in academics and the business world Dom WAS ME! I love her so much
Well, this isn't the best of comfort but, good luck!
@@sevourangeal4865 Thank you! It means way more than you think lol
Good luck sis
@@sevourangeal4865 lmfaoooooooo
The lesson learnt through her character is to remember to heal and nurture yourself too. I hope you get more chances to breathe than she had, good luck 🖤
I don't think Doms boyfriend was trying to be a savior. Dom had so much on her plate, I think he wanted to give her a break and a chance to catch her breath and check on herself. She had the plan to make $300 a week doin hair but he was going to give it to her so for a week she could chill or have double the money for that week. As a couple, you're a team and he wanted so bad to be apart of her life , but she's so independent I don't think Dom saw it that way.
THIS
Dom is my least favorite character ...just accept the money....she was acting so flustered, disoriented, and helpless and when someone FINALLY wants to help her you just yell at them and get mad at them🙄???? the writers of the show did a great job at portraying another OVERUSED narrative of the angry, stressed, struggling, not accepting of handouts black woman. when will they portray a rich, snotty black girl from Beverly Hills?
@@JaihlaTillman How is it overused when it is a true struggle in American and it’s reality (p.s I can see ur point they should switch the narrative once in a while) also the fact that u hate dom more than Leila or even Joey is just Mind boggling but I guess dats what opinions are for
@@JaihlaTillman exactly I totally agree except Dom was my favorite character despite her outdated story line. Can black women have a role where we’re not in the struggle? And can she also be brown skin or dark skin 👀.
thisss
My life is almost identical to Dom. Now, I'm a socially awkward adult because I never got to be social as a child into young adulthood.
is anybody going to talk about that one scene where Anna and Joey are on the bed together talking and rolling around on each other???? I feel like Anna has a crush on Joey
BRUH me too, i think that was a part of the reason she didn't want tim and joey being together
yesss i thought they were gonna kiss like 500 times
i literallt thought joey and anna were gay because of it... and like i literallt thought that anna didn' like the idea of joey beinf with her brother becuase she liked her, i feel like a fool yes
@@loona6166 I thought I was the only one thinking this. I have trouble deciphering between them as well cuz they kinda look alike
Me too tbh i was hoping they would become a thing but who knows maybe they will👀
"Money isn't everything when you have it"
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@@tajmahal8472 👀
Oops!
“And it’s everything when you don’t have it”😬🎯
This is a good show, perfect mix of Degrassi and the bleakness of Euphoria. That writers Controversy is probably the reason Netflix didn't promote this one. Also the Netflix trailer was trash. It's a shame.
True
Fr 😭
I loved the trailer 🥺
Yeah because I never heard of it until now.
the trailer was perfect wtf u talking ab 🙄
24:36 not to invalidate your argument because I agree with you on the substance, but joey did actually say no. She literally told them to 'wait' and shook her head side to side. She was aware of what was happening to her, she was just completely incapable of doing anything about it.
just talk about how pretty and mature sid's younger sister was
omg right i loved meera
can we talk about the bisexual representation in this show victor is a bi guy this is so important to the bisexual community because ppl mainly focus on bi girl (hi ✌🏻) and bisexuals boys and bisexual enbys don’t get that representation so it made me so happy
also this show is a roller coaster of emotions.
Yesss 👏🏾👏🏾
yesss! ive had a convo with a friend of mine how bi men are always done dirty in pop culture since tv shows usually focus on gay men or bi women. Made me very happy to see a bi man!
i loved sid and victor
Am I the only one that thinks that joey was being a lowkey pick-me too since she was so comfortable with her male friends being racist/mysoginistic
Low key, like she allowed George treat girls like shit and Tim as well but as long as it wasn’t happening to her she turned a blind eye so I felt like it was just backwards
Yeah fr :/
Yeah I think that’s where they highlighted some character growth
mmm i think that's more white feminism
I also agree
im ngl im sick of seeing teens in shows being sexualised
same but its how the world is for some teens
Lmao me just thinking about when that one yaribin something bitch club anime was getting traction and people didn’t want to admit they were sexualizing minors
Well that's sadly what happens in real life even if I, people, dont like it
Sex sells, Morty
@@edvdylanfan what-
the jay and owen situation was giving modern day 'when they see us' energy.... truly heartbreaking
no leila praise will be tolerated.
Lelia was the most misunderstood character in that whole show.
@@user-us7py1cy2k speak on it. we are so quick to hate on her and i’m ngl i did too but we all have to understand that she is a freshman. she is trying to find herself and fit in. she doesn’t feel like she’s good enough for her chinese mates or her other friends. she’s simply lost.
Lelia was a bad friend and she was jealous but what made her any different from Joey in the beginning of the season. They both felt like they would be appreciated the “male gaze” at the expense of the things that they cared about. To Lelia it was her only friend and to Joey it was her feminism.
Lelia wanted the male attention the Joey was getting because she thought it would help her with her social anxiety and identity issues. Joey enjoyed the attention she got from her guy friends even at the cost of her own “feminism.” Joey has some problems with her dad and it shows in the way she interacts with guys because she doesn’t feel appreciated when she’s with her dad even with her political views.
Lelia didn’t even know what actually happened to Joey until later on in the show. And she distances herself from that guy then on. Her and Joey had the same character. But that bomb threat didn’t make sense to me at all with Lelias character.
Joey didn’t not deserve what happened to her because in no way did she consent to anything those guys did.
People are looking at this show from such a white privileged perspective that you miss the whole point of the shows existence in the first place
She was the most interesting character I feel we’ve seen in a while. Yeah the character was a bad person but she was written with so much nuance and the reasons for her behavior were very obvious. And that actress is going places!!!!!
@@user-us7py1cy2k 😳😳😳 this ain’t it omg nooooooo
The some of show was about the performative activism you see a lot of people especially white women or non POC’s do and how it actually really effects minorities.
Joey wanted to be all about feminism but when her guy friends were making those degrading Instagram post about women she didn’t say a thing. Or when her friends were being racist again she did nothing. All everyone cares about and was talking about in tiktok was how much “potential” joeys guy friends had even though they were bad characters from the beginning and the writers of the show made it very clear. They made Joey a cool girl character and it shows because in the beginning all the girls watching the show would talk about is how close Joey is to her “guy friends” even though they constantly kept objectifying her and seeing her for what she can do for them
Lelia obviously had some anxiety issues and could tell she was very much socially awkward. She never really interacted with anyone besides her one Jewish family friend that she knew for a long time. Her first day she got a condom thrown at her and a bomb threat. You can’t blame her for being a pick me girl when Joey was one as well.
Even look at the way she was trying to apologize.
The Indian guy was literally struggling the whole show. The guy isn’t even Muslim but ignorant people in America are still going to see him as a terrorist and someone who isn’t to be trusted. His immigrant parents are like many other immigrant parents who tell their kids to worry and about school and ignore racism. Because that’s what they had to do to succeed in America.
He’s apart of the lgbtq community and couldn’t tell his parents because they were hom*phobic and while having a gf. This man was doing all of this while maintaining straight A’s, doing sports and writing college essays. While all the white characters were worried about traveling to a different country because their very affluent parents could afford to send them anywhere that they wanted even with their low test scores
@@edgytypebeat781 Lelia was a bad friend and she was jealous but what made her any different from Joey in the beginning of the season.
Lelia wanted the “male attention” the Joey was getting, Joey “enjoyed” the “male attention” she was getting even at the cost of her own “feminism.” She had issues with her dad and it shows in the way she interacts with men. Her dad doesn’t even value her political stance. Joey was the cool girl that Lelia wanted to be.
Lelia didn’t even know what actually happened to Joey until later on in the show. And she distances herself from that guy from then on.
I feel like we need to look at why the characters are they way they are instead of saying their just bad. Both Joey and especially Lelia were going through problems during that whole show.
@@edgytypebeat781 You could tell that she enjoyed the attention she got from her bf male friends better she would constantly put in this fake feminism act when it was around other people but when she was around those specific group of “male friends” she wouldn’t tell them that the things they were doing weren’t right. She was the exact trope of the cool girl. She was holding herself back when she continued to hangout with those guys. If that scene in episode 3 didn’t happen do you still think she was going to change. It was to show that the cool girl had feeling and emotions that shouldn’t be ignored. That scene showed how being the cool girl isn’t what everyone thinks it to be. Nobody cared about Joeys feelings.
In NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM am I saying she deserved what happened to her because she did not consent to any of those boys.
The whole creation of the show is performative activism. The show runner fired 3 POC writers for giving her tips on how to write black characters.
As a Haitian, I loved the portrayal of Dom's family.
22:00 Joey wasn’t only inebriated but also high. I’ve been there and when you’re like that you’re FNCKED UP! Im sure her thought process was super slow and definitely didn’t realize what was happening until it was too late.
I loved her confidence and to see that dissolve by the incident was tough to watch. I’m glad her story at the end of the season finished on a happy note. She was feeling like herself again.
As a Dominican girl the adultification in the household is pretty common in the Caribbean, they expect you to help because your family makes sacrifices for you
I’m Dominican as well and I agree!
Same here!
Facts, Dominican culture and Haitian culture are very similar in that way. During her whole story line I related so hard to her and her family because I see it in my family and the families of Caribbean friends and peers around me. It's as if Dom was living my life but in Creole!
leila is crazy but she's interesting (in the way she acts impulsive and has no sense of consequence). she's on her path to becoming a more toxic person though. just a freshman wheww
shes only fourteen and sending bomb threats whew...
i agree, thats what made her such an interesting character to watch. I could pin point her to so many people i know in real life its crazy.
I agree. I like her because of how interesting she is. She's a terrible person I can agree. But do like her character
She needs serious counselling. She's very toxic but is still so young there is hope for her
i wanted someone to *thoroughly* scream at her so bad abt all her trash decisions and selfish behaviors but maybe season 2 will bless me with that 🙃
I loved Sid too. As a bisexual Pakistani man, I connected so deeply with his story. The denial and resignation on his father's face when he stood his ground, it was like watching one of my own memories. I literally had to pause and gather myself.
I don't think I have ever connected with a character more. I forget how invisible I feel. Then this goes and reminds me, this show sees me- and shows me that. It was something I didn't know I needed.❤❤❤
(Side note: I binged the whole thing today because I wanted to watch this and I'm so glad I did❤)
Watching grand army for the first time was really hard as a SA survivor, and honestly seeing Joey and her pain made me cry bc I know that pain but I wasn't brave enough to confront it for years. It resonated really deeply
Oh damn... it was hard for me aswell even tho I’m not a survivor but I’m only 14 and idk I never seen things like this honestly it made me cry I had to skip the parts
i will say as someone who just left highschool THIS is the closest any show i’ve seen has gotten to accurately depicting high school, the students, etc.
obviously there are dramatizations and exaggerations and caricatures of real people i’ve seen in high school, but overall they really hit the nail on the head
2002 liner ?
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@@kysphattie we don't speak simplish.
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@@kysphattie Lol
i agree with what you said abt joey, but i just wanted to say that her feminism was very white women feminism...
Yeah
ikr
Yup
Never said anything when her male friends made that disgusting list, acted like total d*cks to other girls and made racist jokes
@@dc9067 excatly, and when she was asking if she was racist her friends were like if you are so are we... and i’m like you’re right all of y’all are racist as HELL!
@@messychelsea i think her character will improve in the second season (if it's not cancelled by bitchass Netflix)
“This toxic idea that the more sexual confidence that a woman expresses the less deserving she is to a right to consent” 20:35 I’ve never heard it said like this before, and I will never say it another way again
“I’m not going to stop signaling that the forest is on fire just because of some untouched trees” you’ve got some incredible lines here
When it came to Joey, Jay, and Dom's breakdown analysis you literally took everything that I felt and turned it into a functioning sentence scratch that a Paragraph. The scene that really hit me was Joey having that "talk" with her friends after everything went down. They could CLEARLY see that the only thing that she wanted from them was an acknowledgment, just inkling that they were aware of what they did. But of course, they knew that and by admitting it would force them to confess to themselves that they are rapist point blank because even though it's widely talked about in today's culture its's still taboo in the sense that an association with the word alone true or not alienates you from society. And when Anna tried to act like she was just hearing everything for the first time when Tim finally confessed not because it was the right thing to do but because he wanted to silence his guilt... BOY BYE. Don't even get me started on Dom and Jay
The absence of a no isnt a yes.
EXACTLY YOU DON"T JUST ACCIDENTALLY HAVE SEX WITH A CRYING PERSON
The thing about Dom getting mad at John (and later at her friends) for seemingly minor and obviously well meaning things was honestly a great illustration of the breaking point that she's at and the anger that she's been keeping under the surface for so long.
She hasn't been able to catch a break for even a moment for so so long it's no wonder she's a lil snappy.
Personally those moments made me love Dom even more because they were so real and so human.
EXACTLY there are "nice guys" and then there are guys that are nice
She said “I don’t need your target money” I felt like dying and crying Is obviously he did it without any malicious intent but I get where she’s coming from to because that was kind of embarrassing
righttt he was obviously trying to help
Haha my friend is like this, very generous. I think it's if you grow up without money in a unstable family vs. if you grow up in a financialy secure household. You can't see how it leads to the person feeling indebted, and why people don't want to feel that way towards friends.
She was the worst charcater along with Lea and the two white boys with Joe
I was waiting for Laila to get caught that last episode😣🤞🏾
you and me both :'(
I wanted her to get caught soooo bad
SAME but I’m ready for next season!!
anonymous otter her ass is grass next season lmao
What did she do
And can we talk about how Anna, Joey’s best friend, probably has a similar kind of attachment to Joey as the one Peach Salinger had to Beck in the show “You”?
SO TRUE! I felt that she espesh didn’t want Tim and Joey bc she wanted Joey
Right, for the longest I thought she didnt want Joey and Tim together bc I thought she liked Joey
Anna ABSOLUTELY has a thing for Joey
Def felt that!!!
Yes! I really felt that she really didn’t want Joey to be with Tim because she wanted her, not necessarily in a romantic or sexual way, but she didn’t want to share her.
As a sexual assault survivor, as a woman and as a HUMAN BEING, it's always my favourite when my sexual partners pause before we actually go anywhere and ask me for my consent because it literally feels like they're validating my existence as an EQUAL.
There was a brief scene where Joey and her friend are talking in a gender neutral bathroom then a transgender (ftm I assume) student walks in and they laugh. Joey permits her friends to these things while being an "activist." She doesn't even follow her own rules but I began to like her more near the ending. I hope to see her develop more, especially when it comes to her and Dom's friendship.
I didn't see this series, but I can relate to the topics so much. Here in Mexico, where I live, we have a serious problem with femicides, misogyny and machismo. At the beginning of the year, before Covid (in my country), I was the main feminist activist on my highschool, and I still believe the same things I fought for. I am just tired and angry of seeing the same situations repeat themselves over and over again and being blamed for things that aren't my fault. I want to do more, and I am surely going to do more
You are so strong and amazing for doing the activism work that you do. That’s going to make a huge different for so many young girls in the future ❤️
Daaamn babe. I swear i read this comment before expanding it and seeing your country is Mexico. I was sure you're South African. We're dealing the same damn things
Te amo 🥺
Here Brazil is the same. Is sad how some if my friends fear for their mothers lives
@@lollabunyxxx femicides and machismo are a huge issue in all of LatAm unfortunately, and the pandemic made things worse since so many women and girls had to stay stuck at home with their abusers
I swear it feels like there's a new case of a missing 16 year old girl found dead like once a week
THE “Bad Hair Day” BEANIE💀 I want one for my bad hair days. How cute
Do you know where I can find it
Same here.
Lol I got it off of amazon a couple years ago
I have a cap that says bad hair day, and I wear it everyday because my hair always does it’s own thing 🥲
Yes I need one
"money isn't everything...when you have it" girl yes
idk if it’s just me but i could watch tee noir examining and analyzing anything. idgaf if we’re watching paint dry i’m here to listen to every thought that pops into this woman’s head, the way she presents information in such a universally understandable and down to earth way while tacking such important and complex topics really blows my mind every single time
tackling***
when it comes to feminism i think Joey means well, she just has a lot to learn yet and going to a different school will probably help. I'd love to see more interactions between her and Dom, i don't think they'd best friends or anything, but it would sure be a power duo.
yess for sure !!
yea I feel like her parents influenced that on her.
i feel the same way, like yeah her feminism wasn’t perfect, but she was trying and i feel like ppl forget she’s 17, most people barely know what they’re doing at that age
Righttttt
Same!
Joey not minding her business about Dom loosing her wallet is the exact reason I just did not like her. Yes I love that she’s liberated in her sexuality, but her privilege as a white person flew so far over her head and that just irked me a bit. This video was awesome though and kind of help me see a few things I missed.
same!! and i hated how complacent she was with her friends' racism, sexism, and slutshaming. if she truly was a feminist, she would've distanced herself from them and called them out.
Same tbh
At first I believed she was really just trying to help. But telling the teacher was off! It would've been an instant regret for me.
i feel this was a conscious decision on the writers part, whereas some shows just write a character like this and think theres no problem
Joey was a performative activist
I think Owen deserved sooo much more attention than what the show portrays, it was so so so much more than how it affected Jay’s life
it was also really well represented
As a young women watching this show was incredibly eye opening. I was always aware of racial injustices but I never quite realised just how much privilege I have, I’m a very honest (sometimes snappy) person meaning I’m not always polite in school and I never noticed how I much more I can get away with these things compared to people of colour.
Joey is the Embodiment of the girl who we all wanted to be in high school. Beautiful, confident, sure of herself, developed physically as a woman, has hella friends. As a young girl still trying to figure things out, I can see why Leila became somewhat fixated on her... but that jealousy is supposed to waine as you grow and begin to see that everyone is beautiful in their own way. Not to mention that even the people that seem to have at most to go there are sometimes struggling as well. If you have Main character syndrome, it will definitely shake you inside when other people can so easily take the attention from you.
Wow I love this perspective
I love these types of shows! It really shows the battle that we go through as we are coming of age. It’s very hard to navigate and develop “self” in high school.
Agreed
When dom started speaking Creole I got so excited because I'm half black half Haitian (and a lil white 💀) and I speak creole and the fact that I didnt have to look up at the subtitles and read em was dope hehe.
A couple things about Sid
He was kinda obviously Hindu (there's also a lot of Islamophobia in India, which you'll see it in his family too).
Secondly, his folks were *not* Indian, their accents were abhorrent and their Hindi was so painful I nearly cried TT-TT
YES HIS HINDI SUCKED SO MUCH
Islamaphobia exsist in every non islamic countries.
I hate how people can't differentiate between Hinduism and Islam, not every south Asian is a muslim.
Plus his parents say his name "Siddhart" like???? Connect the dots
@@aiswaryabersan7983 what's your point?
I think that was intentional though, is probable that Sid's parents came in the US around 20 or 30 years ago, with time one could lose the affinity that they have previously with one language. And unlike Dom's family i think Sid's parents never wanted to teach to their children Hindu because they want to appear as good American citizens, to have their kids more Americanized then them.