5 things I HATE about the CRF300L
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2021
- Well after spending a few months with the CRF300L and talking about how great it is, it's finally time to share some things that aren't so good about this little red dual sport. Don't get me wrong I still love the bike but everything has their pros and cons, in today's video we focus on the negative and go over the top 5 things I HATE about the 300L.
From the ergonomics, to the frame design, you may be surprised as to what rubs me wrong with this motorcycle but I think most of you riders will agree with my points. Feel free to leave a comment down below and let me know if I am missing anything!
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The CRF 300L seems like an extremely good platform to grow with if you're a beginner. Rather than paying for features you won't be taking advantage of out of the box, you can upgrade it as you upgrade your riding ability.
The whole video was pretty much why isn't the 300l a 450 lol if he wants to ride aggressive and is tall buying an entry-level 300 with a low seat hight is questionable to say the least.
It’s not just for beginners but it’s a practical dual-sport bike that can be enjoyed by seasoned riders for leisure & commuting. I’ve been riding for years & traded in my 600 for a 300. Probably going to transition to a CRF300L or 390 Adventure.
This happens when you wanted to buy an agressive moto cross bike but mum said "no".
The CRF300L is a dual sports bike, so if you are looking for a KTM EXC, you should buy one. Don't blame the bike for choosing the wrong one.
I totally agree.
exactly and that’s what this guy is doing. it’s a dual sport meant for beginners and he’s complaining about how he can’t ride it agressivr and ride expert traile
I love seeing machines pushed to the limit, so it's cool seeing a skilled rider mob around on a budget friendly bike.
Here's what I've learned from many of the youtube motorcycle review channels that I've ever seen. 1) You must by the latest model motorcycle. 2) You must discover that it has underlying flaws. 3) You must cure those flaws on you brand new motorcycle by purchasing at least $1.000.00 worth of replacement parts. (for your brand new motorcycle) 4) Those replacement parts that you spent so much money on will TOTALLY transform your brand new motorcycle. And that's because modern motorcycle designers are either stupid or unable to overcome government regulations, and you are well justified in spending all that money on brand-new aftermarket doo-dads to replace those brand-new factory installed doo-dads that were so useless. (this is the very reason I stopped buying motorcycle magazines 16 years ago) And here's what I learned from my real-life experience: take your custom, performance-enhanced bike to your favorite track or riding grounds and inevitably you will be SMOKED by someone who spent their time learning to actually ride hard and fast. And they'll do it with a bike that is nowhere near as "special" as yours. There are better ways to waste your money. Nevertheless, I do appreciate the fact that we still have a choice.
fricken gold mate …nailed it! 👍
Not really, Some bikes it’s just essential to put more parts on it to make it a perfect bike. The OEMS Aren’t going to add stuff like skid plates since that will raise the price while some people won’t use it. You need to fine tune the bike for what riding you do.
@@bikez7641 No. You don't "need" to fine-tune your bike, you "want" to fine-tune your bike. And that's okay be me - it's your bike, your money and your choice. And one more thing I can say with certainty, it will never be "perfect". It may be better or it may be worse, but it will never be perfect. Perhaps we can agree that it could be "perfect" for you.
@@doylegaines1319 k buddy. Go ride a brand new stock bike in some rock gardens without a skid plate and report back what happens
@@bikez7641 You mean brand new stock bike like the 2022 KLX230 SE? Or the2021 KTM 390 ADV? Or the 2021 YAMAHA TENERE 700? Or the 2022 Suzuki DR650S which you can buy from the Suzuki dealer w/a skid plate? Or the 2021 HONDA TRAIL 125 ABS, the 2021 ROYAL ENFIELD HIMALAYAN, the new 2022 FC 250 Rockstar Edition and FC 450 Rockstar Edition models? I don't feel like googling any more, but I think you get the picture. And you might want to read what I actually say before replying, buddy, because the context matters....
Great vid AD , love my 300l as I use it for what it was intended for ... Can't wait for vids on what you do with your bike
I'm looking for a reliable (not too powerful) dual sport to explore back roads and downtown Fort Worth, TX. I'm 50 years old, 6'1", 200lbs, and good health. This bike looks quite attractive. Thanks for the video!!
I’m 20 years old and also live in Fort Worth and looking for a bike for the same reason
The klx has much better suspension for someone over 150 pounds. The crf suspension I was able to bottom out in the dealership and I weigh 190 while the klx suspension is much stiffer and they definitely spent more on it. That's just my Input lol
Wr250r
@@morphius747 those cost way more then the klx tho lol
I have a crf250l and rode it side by side with a crf250r on trails in Colorado which very rough and I weigh 250 and am 6'3". I was ready to ride the next day because of the soft suspension. It is a great trail bike and rides fine for someone over 200lbs. It is not a motocross bike and if you buy it for that purpose you are a fool. These are great bikes.
I appreciate you making this video. I feel like your opinions are very applicable to what I’m trying to learn about these bikes. Thanks!
Great video, it’s always nice to hear an honest opinion. I’ve got my eye on one of these as it seems like a great package for what it’s meant for.
Hey man, been watching you for a while. So I bought a 26$ tail kit off of Amazon and made it fit. I did a top 10mods video for all the stuff I put on. I agree with you on the rear swingarm, I had a hard time fitting my michelin ac10. For suspension you and me both.
Tanner I appreciate your honesty about the bikes. I am currently waiting for a CRF 300 Rally to arrive the end of September. I am not an aggressive rider so I think this bike is going to work great for me. Thanks for sharing and tell Alexa that I am impressed with her riding ability. She has come a long way since she owned the CRF230L. PS to the point about my riding I own a CRF230L and it has been a good bike for me. I just need a little more speed on the Highway.
Hey John I think you will love the 300 Rally. I have a 2020 250 Rally. Purchased new, it already has 9000kms on it.
Lots of exploring and camping!
My only thing ab the ralley is it is god awfully ugly
Tusk seems to be pretty friendly with RUclipsrs...thats cool.
After lots of consideration I ended up going with a KLX300. Thanks for affirming lol. Suspension, frame, gearing, and other minor gripes tipped the scale for me, for my uses at least (ADV and single track). A downside of KLX300 is the availability of aftermarket parts. Yes it is mostly similar to the KX250 but things like a larger tank aren't possible yet. Only a 2.7 gallon tank is available, .7 increase for a few hundred. It seems like generally companies are quick to make AM parts for Hondas, probably a bigger market.
I ordered a 300 rally should be here in the next week or 2 so I'm interested in seeing the modifications you choose and find out what will work for me. Definitely doing something with suspension cockpit and seat.
hey man. great video. thank you. some good tips. i got one a few months ago. first bike. novice rider. 52 yrs old. in canada, BC. done some excellent logging roads in the mountains and also some nice highway. all your criticisms are valid. but i love this bike. cheers. j
I agree with everything you mentioned and thought about selling it before I racked up miles. But after some tweaking and new tires/ front sprocket, adjusting rear preload, higher bars and gutting the muffler, I'm glad i stuck with it..btw the trackmaster 110/100/18 was a perfect fit. A smart man once said
"it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow", that really stuck with me! Thanks for all the vids bro!
I would love to hear all the upgrades you would put on your crf 300l to make it the best bike you can with aftermarkets. With lets say unlimited budget. Love the video, keep up the good work.
I'm new to bikes and I was looking into this bike and a Grom so thank you for the info.
Thanks for the honest video. At 6’4, have you ridden or considered the XR650L? I love mine, even though it’s all old tech. Seat height at 37 inches is pretty tall.
Excellent video!
Thinking about a new ABS model. Is the engine powerful enough?
You’re so underrated man😕Video quality is so good!😍
Love the area you're in. What state is this?
Great video. I have around 250 off-road miles on my CRF300l so far and agree with most of your points. I swapped in factory style led turns, removed the reflectors, led taillight bulb, flatland racing fender eliminator, offset risers and bars, enduro footpegs, radiator guard, tusk d-sport tires (120/90 fit perfectly by the way), YSS rear shock and front spring. Bike is awesome for trail riding and gnarly single track for what it is 😂
How would you compare it to the 250L (stock form) ?
Been looking at used 250L's for ok prices, however a new 300L financed would appear as formidable option.
I don't like the allen bolts either, but they do make sense for offroading, Ive rubbed some bolts flat to where I couldn't get a wrench on it . like rounded one side sliding it down a rock hill. I imagine the allen slot would have held up better in that scenario
Would a Dunlop 606 fit in the swing arm? That's what I run on my 250L. And did you turn right on to a one way street? Lol
got just over 10,000 Km on my KTM 390 Adventure and just under 10,000 om my DR650 still waiting for my CRF3000L getting a 2022 as they could not get me a 2021, but now they do have one but being 2022 I will wait for the 2022, I will be going with the Dunlop D606 rear and the Pirelli M21 front. also hand guards, bash plate and rear rack so I can carry extra gas the gas tank is way to small, my main gripe about the CRF300 L I did put 20 liter gas tank on my DR650 made the world of difference, as I can ride all morning and not worry about gas. The CRF 300 L will be 90 % off road only road it will see is to and from the trails or dirt roads. thanks for the great video.
Great review.
I followed the link but had trouble finding the handle bar/hand guard/volt you said you were teaming up with to provide.
Seems like an interesting channel, so I sub'd.
I'm looking for a dual sport and a new 300L or a used 250L is on the short list.
Ultra reliable engine 60,000mls or 100,000km now on my old 2014 CRF250L.
I bought it cheap a few years back with a massive 68,000km but well kept with regular oil changes. Its never had the engine openned and it runs like new and not using oil. Power is all stock excluding FMF4.1 pipe with a Db killer inside so it has more power than stock but its less noisy. Without the Db its even more power and instant crack on power but loud when openning it up.
With hard off road abuse and potholes I also cracked my rear frame off at the same place in the photos, it was from a heavy rear rack/box full of tools, tubes, air pump, first aid kit, water etc.
I welded steel strengthening plates to the inside and its fine now.
Agreed ... the stock honda rear tail light / indicators / fender setup is ridiculously heavy and unnecessay.
I can't wait for the fork seals rebuild video
Great channel, just subscribed- Just watched your 450L video, im right there with ya, 450 to much for tech and 300L mite not be enough for those open fast trails? A plated XR400R mite be best :) I bought a CRF450X and its not good at slow speed either, but will try a flywheel weight prior to selling it
+1 on the signals sucking!! The lens got ripped off when I dumped the bike in my most recent vid😂😂
Does that bike have the same problem that the 450rl does with throttle ecu change i hated that bike i got rid of it and bought the xr 650l and i love it
What i really really would really like is a lockeble toolbox at the front of the skidplate. Keeping the weight as low as possible. Because it is a lighter bike you are instand feeling the weight of what you put on the bike. With all my heavier bikes like the 1190R this is different. But now the weight of my luggage becomes quicly to a point where it takes the fun of riding away.
Do you guys have this feeling also ? And how much kg of luggage do you all
Greetings from the Netherlands.💪
Google maps offline downloaded data is great. I've used it for years. I have pretty much all of New Zealand downloaded, quite a bit of California and Nevada, and parts of Russia. Absolutely superb if Google maps has enough detail for you and you go places without cell coverage or you're travelling in a country you don't have a local, SIM card for and don't want to use a lot of expensive data.
Wonder if should have chosen the rally model little bit longer bigger fuel tank. Thanks
That one piece frame is a deal breaker for me great looking bike but man why would they do that well like you said to cut cost love your channel great content
Did you buy the non-ABS version for any particular reason? I'm hesitant to buy the ABS version because of the front wheel ABS that can't shut off. Do you think it'd be a hindrance offroad?
If you frequently maneuver to redirect the bike by locking up the rear wheel off-road, then the NonABS model is the perfect option. But if you use it for dual sporting, then the ABS model can be a life saving, especially on the road. You can, however, disable the ABS if you trully fancy for off-road use by getting rid of the fuses and fixing of the wires. Cheers!
I thought you could disable the abs breaking on the 300l display? Anyone?
Question on the ECU and exhaust?
Just a question.
How many sets of golf clubs have you owned to still shoot in the 90"s?
It sounds like the 450L would have been a better choice?
I bought the 2021 klx 300 r for my dirt bike. If they'd have made it street legal but not the current klx 300 dual sport, I'd have bought it in that configuration but I didn't want to sacrifice suspension just to be street legal so I went with the 300R.
I have the Garmin Rhino 650 as well as other family that we hunt with and love them.
I like the video. 👍🏻
I had a 450l and recently sold it. I’m pretty impressed with the 300l. Yes it has some shortcomings like you mentioned but so does every bike I’ve ever owned. I’m not a beginner rider nice been riding for 50 years. (So yes I’m 59 now). I bought the 300 with the intention of upgrading a lot of things. Yes I know not smart but I like to make it my own. I feel when this is done I’ll have a nice little enduro that suits me fine. I honestly did care for the 450l to much. To be honest it was a little hard for me to handle in the woods. Not to mention the flame out issue.
Thanks for the input on the 300 I agree with you.
Mike do you feel like the 300 is worth the money over the 250l ? I'm a little behind you in age but have been riding my whole life. Trying to pick a sensible bike as I won't be doing a lot of jumping or maybe even any lol.
@@fadedexile Bone stock, the 300L is worth the money my friend. I have both. The 300 has that extra oomph of power, it is light to handle and the stock suspension is way better. The overall ergonomics is way better too with the tank and seat section that is narrower, hence the bike easier to maneuver. In the end, you may want to change the handle bar and the suspension springs (cheaper option) for a little more agressive riding. Too bad you guys doesn't have that headlight and turn signals of a Thailand model like what we have here in the Philippines, but hey.. it is an easy fix. Cheers bro!
I left mud flap on the klx, it really does collect a lot of mud and help keeps your gear cleaner. It looks dorky, but does serve a purpose
Poor Alexis, shes never gonna live down that wipeout =P
I also have a kdx 5'4" and 130 lbs 49 years old & I can't imagine being bigger on it.
Had it since 1997. Its way under powered for me. How do you even get up a hill?
Which is better for highway use - CRF300L or XR650L? I’m between those two, I have my own pros and cons of each but obviously nobody really uses these as daily driver bikes.
I have no experience of the 300 but also have a female hex spindle on my GS, a little tip just weld a suitable nut or bolt to something preferably something that doubles up for another purpose or a nut on an allen bolt that you may already be carrying a key for, certainly no need to carry a specific socket and bar for it.
Yes, I have a 2nd option as far as navigation. Get a map.
ps. you can add links or even whole sections to chains and you can buy kits to do it. pps...those tools can be bought 1 piece at a time out of a plastic drawer in the tools section at "Lowe's". You gotta search and probably even the employees at Lowe's don't know they are there. If that fails, you can get them 1 at a time at an auto parts store, also 1 at a time off ebay
Not just ur 300l mine is the same way drives me nuts how do I fix that
question: how tall are you? im 6 ft 2 and wondering if this bike will feel small. ive seen some mentions about it being a smaller bike.
He literally says how tall he is in the video fool
I would recommend the Garmin Montana 700I or the Garmin GPSMAP 66I. I think the 700I would be a better fit for your use because I believe it dose better on road navigation and has a bigger screen then the 66I and they also double as a satellite communicator with an SOS button in case you were to get hurt well riding in a area with out cell service and it can automatically send out a tracking point every 10 minutes so your family and friends know where you are and how your trip is going. Also it seems like all of Honda’s bikes come with suspension that is way too soft
I recommend a Garmin 700. Very large screen for the size of the bike (easy to read). I had a QUADLock mount (with vibration damper) on my Africa Twin and after only 3 rides the servos on my iPhone 11 Pro were toast. Just a word of caution.
On turn signals: I removed the turn signals on every dual sport motorcycle I've owned the moment I got it home from the shop. Just throw them in a box and keep them for resale value. 🙂
Quadlock also has a damper set up you can buy so the mount doesn't destroy the optical image stabilization in your phone's camera. It just stacks with the regular mount. I have that along with the Quadlock USB charger setup on my Z900RS. All three stacked together makes it a bit bulky, but clean. I think it's the best current phone mounting system available.
I had a QUADLock mount (with damper) and my iPhone 11 Pro camera servos were toast after three rides. I so wanted the mount to work. Just my experience.
The suspension isn't the worst it gets the job done but one thing I've noticed is the lack of travel, my Dirt bikes forks are all an inch or more taller so riding it the way its supposed to be ridden its fine but I get about a foot of air or lift the front end up a couple feet and she maxes out! But love the 250l
How do you deal with the tiny gas tank?
Perfect beginner bikes cr500, kx500, crf450r, yz450f, kx450f, are great starter bikes
I've been using GAIA GPS on my phone, it works well and allows you to navigate without cell/network signal.
Switched to all electric and I'm loving it!
I enduro a 250M. The suspension works fine for me. The part numbers are different to the L so im guessing the spring rates are harder. I just did my 3rd set of seals in 6 years and now the crank is coming out as i think its getting itchy to do an alien on me.
Wondering why you felt it necessary to run a 120 rear tire on this small, low powered bike.
I ride mostly ktms because im also 6'4" 'save weight" is honda code for "save money in production costs"
I called Honda Powersports Chattanooga TN 9/28/2001 looking for the 2021 CRF300L Rally. Was told two to three months wait. They called next day and delivered it to me 9/30/2021. I saved $1700 over another dealer in GA. No dealer fees, no delivery fees. MSRP and $30 administrative fee only. I called 10 other dealers and no one had one of these in stock and did not know when they would get one. My salesman was Gus and very pleased with this purchase/service by dealer.
your right to not rely on phone--haven't used it but I like the dual purpose idea behind the Garmin Rino .ALSO OF COURSE OLD SCHOOL MAPS AND COMPASS
Sounds to me like you would have few complaints on a WR250R. Can power heated clothes, unboltable sub frame, good for 6'4
I got ktech r lite rear shock is really amazing ....plenty of adjust-ability ..I would like to see; an arrow slip-on, on your bike.
cant wait to see the tusk setup. im wanting a crf 300L myself
At your height, why not go for the XR650L or 450L? It can be modded out to your specifications. I went with the 650L because of price over the 450L.
I use the Garmin 595 LM on all 3 of my bikes you get mounting bracket and it`s easy to use and completely waterproof and made for motorcycles
I'm wondering what issues I'll have at 6'2" 260lbs
I'm assuming I'll need springs
I was wondering the same. I’m 6’2” and 230lbs. But I ride a Ninja 400 with stock suspension setup and no issues so I guess it will depend on how hard you intend to ride off road. I will mostly be on seasonal roads and two track roads with occasional single track trails. I’m in Michigan so we don’t have anything too crazy to begin with. lol.
Thinking about getting one for a second bike.
I stand on 2x4's to simulate what it's like to be as tall as Tanner.
Kind of a scary height to be riding at.
What is the best way to hold a gps to the bike
Let's say I have the 450L, is the 300L a good secondary option or should I get the ktm 500 if money isn't an issue?
If money isn’t an issue and you don’t mind the service intervals maybe, but the 300L is still a far better “street bike”.
500EXC all day. The 1.2L oil change takes 5 minutes. 10 with filter change.
@@AdventureDaily I want something that rips thats street legal.
Ktm690 or Husqvarna 701
Was that a kdx riding with you?
Garmin XT. hands down best. mount is expensive, but setup is worth it.
I love the voyager pro for offroad riding. Not so good for a dualsport option, no turn by turn capability.
WR250R might be the bike for you ??? I have the quad lock with the wireless charger on my 600, great bit of gear.
Come out to Pennsylvania and ride bald eagle state forest in the spring when it reopens to dual sport riding 👍 primitive camping is free just got to reserve a camping spot . Which we did calling the dcnr ranger station . If you decide to contact me and we can do some riding .
So I must correct u on the front tire needing a big Allen wrench. It doesn’t need it at all. The retaining bolts hold the axel in place to take the nut off. Schools out atgatt
It's such a shame Honda cheaper out on lights etc. In Australia we got the led lights that have heaps more give (I'd know 40+ drops lol)
guys, i need bike for going to work, school on weekend trip well I will ride 90% of time on road and 10% time out of road, I dont wanna bike with short intervals (oil, etc.) do you think this bike will be good ? or do you have some another examples pls ? BTW i got budget about 6k euros
Thank you all and have a nice day !
Feel like you’d really like a ktm 350exc-f or husky FE 350
what was the size of that allen wrench for the front axle?
17mm
@@geraldburmeister9637 thanks
So 250L vs 300L which would you pick?
do a 250l vs 300l video
Did you look into the kawasaki 300?
I’m 16 now and my parents won’t let me use my 250l on the road so I’m selling it but right as I move out I’m buying a 300l just for the road and I’m gonna love it
The KLX300 seems like a better choice. The stock suspension is moderately better, a bit lighter and a bolt on subframe. The important part though is that it is the KLX250 in most regards and accepts its accessories/upgrades.
but the klx isnt as powerful, and honda is just better overall for dual sports(Imo)
It amazes me to see how much of a direct copy the tusk bags are of the mosko moto reckless system.
Did you not do some research before deciding to buy?
I have never had much issues running different apps offroad like Google maps or on x hunt. I can see who owns what property as well with on x. Just save an offline map on either. There are other apps as well you can do the same with. I try to avoid apps that kill battery life like polaris ride command even if i can plug in. Also use an extended sae chord for all your bikes with a usb adapter. Can use for phone, gps, camera, even a small power inverter and run off your battery. Can also run it on bikes with no battery.
It's a non-aggressiv trusty sight-seer motorcycle. If you push it beyond that...as you said...it's the wrong bike. I love the views from mountain passes in CO and this bike gets me over them comfortably at a great price.
I watch vids like it's my religion 👍300l is my first bike. I'm 41 so not fit and young. I'm treating it like full dirt bike and not good lol (bucked off 120kmh being idiot and dent both front and rear rim) For some one that is 5 4" or 5 5" (short legs) what would you recommend to get and learn on (can't even mono being honest)
I sold mine like a month after I bought it and went with a wr250r, the biggest thing I found was the twitchy throttle which isn’t a problem on the wr, and along with some other things that just made the bike feel cheap, the seat on mine wouldn’t sit properly and the the washer wouldn’t sit flush so the seat would just move around, much more happier with the wr250r but maybe if I gave it a shot I would like it more but the quality assurance on mine was terrible, plus having the fully adjustable suspension is amazing.
You had a crf300l that you sold for a wr250r? How many miles did you put on the crf before you sold it?
@@JohnnyBoy919 like 400 kms, pretty much got all my money back
Have to add a note about mounting your phone to the handlebars. I have damaged two iphones by mounting them to the handlebars and hit the trails. Its okay for the street, but not good for offroad. There are some shock absorbing products you can purchase, but I went with mounting my phone to my tank bag with a window to avoid damage.
I got the Garmin inReach explorer + like it so far