The Infamous "5K Rattle" .. Another CRF300L Recall?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2021
- When I revealed my CRF300L on the channel I had received a comment talking about the "5k rattle". At the time I had no idea what he was talking about but a quick Google search revealed an issue that a lot of riders were complaining about with their bikes, a rattling noise around 5000 rpm's. Sure enough, I was a victim as well. So in today's video we talk about the problem and what I think it is.
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Thumbs up for the corny ass intro.
Tis great! More cheese to the people! I have a 2014 250L and it's mecanically really silent. Cheers from Sweden!
Tanner you are such a wheelie stud. Your wheelies look really pro. Brave man doing wheelies in your shorts.
It's a RUclips video. You've got to have personality and be corny to get views.
I heard that sound too. I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Heck the XR650R I had made all kinds of mechanical noises and rattles. This 300 is like an electric bike after the XR hahaha
My thought exactly!! Reckless setup coming soon then I’m headed to TX🤠
I'm shore my xr250r had a rattle around 5k mechanically very quite just ticking over.
It rlly does have a weird sound, almost sounds like ping to me jakey mc snakey
Mine has the 5k rattle and I am so un-bothered by it lmao. I actually intentionally ride around 5k RPM because if it IS an issue, it'll break in warranty. If it makes it thru warranty, it'll probably last forever.
How's the rattle after a years time?
@@luvbgrass I put an exhaust on it so it's louder than the rattle
As a mechanic I bought this new and was immediately concerned about the rattle since it does sound like it's coming from inside the engine. Glad to hear it doesn't seem to be a problem
Most all aluminum DOHC engines will exhibit vibrations and rattles at specific RPM’s due to harmonics and frequencies. Aluminum is very acoustically conductive. Just keep sending it. :-)
I bought mine new in 13 when they first came out. It’s never had a recall that I know of. It’s been VERY abused since day one. I’ve never had a single issue with it. It’s still bone stock minus a 13 tooth front sprocket and handle bar risers.
Lots of off-roading in Florida, Georgia, river crossings (under water once still never skipped a beat), in the mountains out west, Death Valley, Arizona, Grand Canyon and now in the Midwest. I’ve still never had the spark plug out. It now has 5,000 miles on it (hurt my back and it sat for a few years) and i do notice a rattle in that rpm range, basically at cruise I’ll notice it. It is annoying but I think it’s just due for a valve adjustment/tune up. It’s been through the ringer. Other than that it’s not really abnormal. Older thumpers are way noisier. Although when it was new it was incredibly quiet. I now also use it as a commuter. Usually 30miles a day, almost all country. I still just love this bike. There are bigger badder bikes out there, but I don’t think there’s very many this dependable. It reminds me of z50’s and Cubs (which I also have in the stable), just anvil like reliability.
In your 300l review video a lot of the issues you have with it I had with my 250l. But I think it really just broke in this year. Everything suspension and handling wise feels much better now than the day I bought it. And the seat finally broke in. I always thought it lacked kind of everywhere, but i found out that the bike is more capable than I am, even more now. I think Honda really nailed it with this bike.
Thanks for your thoughts. Every toy of every type I've had over the last 20 yrs has had it's quirky noises and rattles. I had a 2017 250L rally that had the rattle. I now have a 2021 300L that does it. I'm not going to worry about it. I bought my 300 a couple weeks ago and haven't even put my break-in miles on it yet... Great bike so far. I can't wait to get it out on the dirt.
The first thing I do is change the auto cam chain adjuster to a manual one . It only take a slight turn to get rid of the rattle .
Spot on
Hey, that’s my pipe stand post on Adv Rider. I go by Aguaski on that forum. I love the pipe stands. Glad they warranted a brief comment from you. Yes, do a video. You have a broad reach with a large audience. I think the pipe stand will be helpful to many people. Feel free to reach out if you have questions.
Awesome you found this video! I think it’s a great idea and I will most likely end up doing it, credits to you my friend.
For the pipe stand, as an alternative to a 14” piece of pipe it may be easier to source two 6” pieces and one coupler. The coupler adds some length so that you are really close to 14” in total length. In this case it’s funny math where 6” + 6” = ~14”. Good luck building the stand and creating the video.
Great video! Mine has the rattle but I don’t even pay attention to it anymore. Nice wheelie!
Ride On Brother
I can't seem to hear any rattle on my new Rally....BECAUSE I'M ON A 7 MONTH WAITING LIST TO GET IT......mildly frustrating. Anyway, glad your enjoying yours.
Dealer said she was to ship ~8/25. No updates as of today 9/1. Hopefully soon!
Did you guys ever get your bikes?
@@JoJobaggins93 got mine. Only got 21 miles on it before Vermont froze.over. oh well. 3 months until we ride again up here.
After 30 years of cutting tile I don’t hear shit…including my wife saying “you don’t have time for a ride” 😁
And after 30 yrs....who listens to the wife’s noise anyways! And with 45 yrs on tablesaws routers pneumatic staplers, my hearing is every bit as good as yours!😉
Boomer ahh conversation
Wow! You are an amazing rider. I'm totally impressed by your control of the bike and those crazy wheelies!
i have 1500 miles on mine, full pipe and exhaust system. did first oil change at 400 miles, that quieted it down. put the exhaust system and ecu flash at 800 miles. the rattle is still there but getting less and less the more i ride. not worried about it, my XR'S all had similar rattles back in the day.
Never felt anything on my 2020 other than in the high rpms, not like a dirt bike revving itself to death but mainly 9-12k rpm has some serious vibrations but I've never worried and still won't have almost 2400 miles and 1 oil change and yet she started right up and ran perfect evertime and never gave me a problem! They are tanks
Oh man i was almost sold to the CRF300L, but now i redraw until the 5k rattling issue is determined. Hey thanks for the video, very complete information, appreciate it!!!
I still wouldn’t let that be a deciding factor but no problem glad you enjoyed it!
Many cars and trucks have a 'rattle' since the exhaust has been improved. Most are so quiet now that you will hear valve trains, ticks, lifters, and even the fuel injectors. My 03 Exploder doesn't make a sound under the hood because all you can hear is the horrid stock exhaust. It is loud enough to cover any engine noise. My wife's 2016 Escape (now totaled after 38k miles), has a horrific sound because at idle there is no real exhaust noise. I can hear the lifters, valves, and fuel injectors ticking away. When we first got it - it was alarming!
I personally wouldn't worry about this supposed 'issue' with the CR300L, you can hear weird noises on other bikes, and let me just say that if you think the CRF300L 'rattle' is bad, you should listen to an old XR250 with a louder exhaust. You can hear all kinds of odd little sounds coming from inside that engine but the darn things will run damn near forever.
Since your rattle went away, I think the solution is abundantly clear!
Wheelies!!!!!
Kidding aside, a full exhaust made mine less noticeable.
I had a 2016 250L. It had the rattle. At first it bothered me. After a while I just accepted it and moved on. Eventually I got used to it and then forgot about it. Last year I picked up a KLX230. Great little bike. Guess what. It developed the rattle. I just thought, well, it ain't only Honda. I just purchased the 300L Rally. If it develops the rattle I'm going to call it character. Obviously if it was serious I think Honda would have noticed by now and taken care of the issue.
It would be nice to see the sumo setup again. Still haven’t seen anyone else do it in America.
Just dropped my 300l off at the dealership. Pretty sure i have cam tensioner failure. It started knocking and I can hear the chain slapping. I’ll find out for sure tomorrow morning!
Yup, cam tensioner failure! Was told it would be 3 to 4 weeks before they can get the part and get it fixed. 🤦♂️
Was there any damage?
Ya the pipe stand would be cool to see you build, I’m interested 🤙🏻
Guess I’m too busy enjoying just being on it… haven’t noticed it yet if mine is even doing it. Riding this weekend so I’ll try to pay attention. I agree though, everything with an engine makes noises… as long as it still runs and performs… I’m good with it!
Heya Tanner. Watched your beloved WR250R Vid the other day and was wondering what your thoughts are on the WR450F are? Thinking about buying an older one in the 2012 ish range???
Sometimes all it takes is an oil change, also making sure it’s got enough oil, all engines have their natural sounds each make is unique. I never had that issue with my 250L, if you don’t like the sound shift up 🤷🏼♂️ just my opinion .
I just bought a CRF300 Rally yesterday. Sold my 11 month old CT125 to first person that asked about it. Easy sell. I put over 3000 miles on that little bike this past year. Had a lot of fun on it. I'm looking forward to riding the Rally, see if I have the rattle. 😁😁 Thanks for the good video.
I think you are right because my Honda XLR250R does the exact same thing with the rattling sound and so far there is no effect on the engine.
I got a CRF250l and a CBR250R and both are doing the exact same rattle noise which starts at around 5k RPM's. I removed the Pair Valve at the the CRF but it still rattles. I have learned to live with it and as both bikes and other people got this noise it didn't bother me much.
I have a CRF300l, I ride the wheels off the thing and it's an amayzingly capable bike on trails with a few upgrades. Anyways, YES it has a minor rattle at 5k but who cares, just ride the thing and enjoy it. That minor rattle does nothing to affect the bikes performance.
I had a rattle early on with my 250L Rally. It turned out to be a loose screw on the fork protector.
Crazy timing! My 250ls cam chain tensioner is in the mail. Got 8500 miles on it before it wore out
I had it too but from 0km to 1500km was the worst of it . As soon as I did second oil change at about 1500km it became better and better . the noise is still there but for sure not as loud as it use to when bike was brand new .
Mine doesn’t bother me. And it is so quiet compared to my 450RL. Thanks for the video.
Do you still have them both?
If it's under warrantee when it does it just take it to Honda and get it looked at. If they don't find anything you have it documented if something goes wrong later. I agree with you if it's not that noticable and it runs fine just ride it and stop worrying. 👍🏻😎
I bought a crf300l and a 2020 wr250r this year. They each rattle. Doesn’t bother me one bit. I wear ear plugs while riding which is why I can hear it more. One brand of ear plugs I can’t hear the rattle at all. I am in the Ride More Worry Less camp. Happy riding to all!!
I had the 17 250 rally... I put 28k miles on it before I got hit by a car coming out of a blind stop sign. I'm beat up and getting better. Seeing you pull that front tire up at 30mph... I'm sold
CBR600 has it as well, timing chain tensioner and the oil pump chain drive has no tensioner. In this case I'm pretty sure it's just the timing chain tensioner.
what gear are you popping your wheelies up on? Are you changing gears during your wheelies?
I have a Voge 300DS, a "premium" chinese bike with a KLX 300 baised engine. It has weird vibritations at 6k straight. I try to not give a duck and avoid this RPMs (or just go through them quick so it is not noticable at all) but i can understand people that got to the conclusion that they want to sell the bike, as this noise can be really loud and disturbing.
I live in Asia, and they have this problem too. Not on the 250/300 engines though, probably because not too many people buy them here, but they happen on the 150 engines. Either the cb150, cbr150, or the crf 150l. Official honda service centre mechanics have heaps of guessings on whats wrong but none of them seem to really deal with the problem. At the end of the day, people figured that it doesnt really affect the performance of the bike, and decided to just forget about it. Maybe they were right, a honda is a honda where ever it is.
My 250L had the cam chain tensioner fail. Got a manual adjusting one and done never another noise and never touched it. Have bought them for almost all my bikes now.
when something rattles in the engine it's always the chain tensioner... AIR 😁😂
Mine has 6000 miles on it, never rattles, never hesitates up to 8000 rpm... must be cam chain. To properly fix, you might need to replace chain and tensioner. Check with dealer to see if covered.
@@chuckbowen4334 mine had 14k on it when it went. I replaced it with a manual cam chain tensioner. Set it and forget it. The bike never had an issue after that. It's long gone now though.
Good review sir I am form Thailand watcing your calnal
My 300l with 1800 miles on it, without a doubt does have some valve chatter around 5k. Hondas in general have never been known to be super quiet in the top end!
My 300 slowly began doing it after making a wrong turn and becoming quite familiar with some bushes. I just assumed it was plastics or some kind of mount somewhere and haven't cared enough to look for it
As someone who rides an evo sporty…. I’m so used to rattles I don’t even notice anymore
I'll let you know when I get it to 5000 RPM someday!
Can't imagine it goes over 40mph if you stay under 5k
@@chrishart8548 I don't think I've hit 30mph yet. I am new to riding (as my channel name indicates) and, of course the CRF300. I am just taking it easy while learning and working toward my MC license.
@@themotonoobusa9710 how ya doing now buddy? Red lining it? More comfy at least? ✌🏽
@@lukefish7562 Not red lining yet (on purpose anyway) but I got my endorsement and can leave the ally now! I am dropping a video of my first ride (with all things being legal) sometime today. Thanks for checking up on me!
@@themotonoobusa9710 heck yeah that’s great. I got back into it after not having a bike for a long time and took it nice and slow concentrating on the proper stance and such.
It’s amazing how much more comfortable you are after just six months to a year.
Enjoy!
I'm to busy trying to not to fall down, I broke the front brake lever so put zeta levers on for a 250l . They fit same as oem the clutch lever does have some play up and down but the perch has some wear, I've fallen on that side to. as for the rattle only hear it when I'm taking it easy on the street, does not really bother me. I'm at 800 mi. and ride 70 dirt 30 street
My xr650l has the stock auto decompression cam and it used to be pretty loud but now its significantly quieter at 6,000 miles so I guess the parts are just breaking in. Also my speedo makes a little noise. So yall could check there too
hy! I bought a CRF250L a few months ago, and I'm a mechanic. I am convinced that the noise is caused by the piston skirt clicking on the sleeve. it is a noise that occurs when the air/fuel mixture is very lean. the noise can also be caused by too advanced timing.
Did you get an ejk to program the af?
@@41933 no
I bought a CB300F in 2015 which had, if I'm not mistaken, basically the same engine as the 300L. I ran into the exact same "problem" then and if you look up CB300F Rattle, you'll find a bunch of people talking about it in 2015. I don't know if anyone ever figured it out, but I rode that 300F at full throttle all through the mountains in Colorado for like 6000 miles and never once did I have even a misfire out of that engine. Buy an aftermarket clutch lever and an exhaust and I guarantee you won't hear it anymore! 👍
I’d love to see a vid of you building the pipe stands.
I’m thinking about buying a 2019 CB 300 R any information about recalls that you know of?
What dealer did you get yours through? All the ones in the cin-day area don't have any inventory.
2019 250L bought with 1,500 miles. It definitely has the rattle. I'm new to motorcycles, but not new to engines in general. It reminds me of the rattle that a scored piston makes sometimes. I'm somewhat bothered, but since finding out it's s common issue, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
Besides the normal vibration in the handle bars, is it normal to have a bad vibration at 7200 rpm’s from the motor?
Does it go away in higher rpm’s?
Here in Greece wrong have noticed that a lot of engines from trusted brands like honda or yamaha, have problems with their engines, even when you are not actively trying to destroy them. But someone found out if you make the engine take it slowly at first(for 300-600 miles) we go with low RPM and low throttle and then slowly we go with more RPM and more throttle trying to destroy them a bit more until the 600 miles mark. Then we use them as we would use them normally, some people are actively trying to destroy them, other taking care of them. But they all have one similarity after that procedure, the engines don't really wanna break. An old man gave me his old yamaha townmate 50 1980 model, it haven't started a single time for since 2001 and after 3 kicks it was running, I am actively trying to destroy it, and it doesn't wanna break.
You should actually try to not destroy your engine at first and make it slowly adapt.
True !
Hi I'm Gregory Masincup and I was wondering if you consider the DRZ 400 and do you think the Honda CRF 300 worth the money ????????
Haven't noticed it on my 300l but I'm also at 800 miles and didn't know if the noise till now
You need to do a video on upgrading the suspension. I just bought one and the suspension is garbage.
My CRF230M's tank shrouds rattle on the metal tank at certain RPMs.
That bike has 23K miles too, so it might not sound as smooth.
I thought my 250L had the timing chain tensioner rattle. It turned out to be the drive chain had stretched. I tightened it and the rattle went away.
Hi, do you have any news on what is causing the 5k rattle?
Speaking for those of us who tend to “worry”, do so because of fear of being stranded in the middle of nowhere, because the CRF300L Rally specifically, is made for getting out of town, minimally. As someone who does 200-500 mile days, the last thing I wanna deal with is a roadside repair at best, or an early evening stay at a hotel whilst my unit gets towed to the nearest service shop. That said, the history of this bike seems to dictate all will be ok with the 5K Rattle, but just because it’s “Honda”, doesn’t make it bullet proof.
Off topic but here goes.
Good informative video and nice wheelies.
I see you have over 70K subscribers and no doubt have some influence over many of them.
My concern is your riding without full protective gear. It sets a very bad example for your viewers.
I have been riding for 54 years, mostly dirt and dual sport.
About 7 years ago, I hit a patch of loose gravel on my DR-650 on a 35mph downhill “S” turn. It happened so quickly that I remembered later thinking “why is the sky above my right shoulder?”
I was still in normal riding position when I impacted the pavement. It seemed like I slid forever.
I immediately jumped up and checked for injuries. I had one small scratch on the knob of my left wrist. I was not even sore the next day.
I was fully “geared up” with a one piece chest, back, shoulder, elbow and lower arm protector. I was also wearing a full coverage MX helmet, MX gloves, padded riding pants and MX boots.
There is a good reason that accidents are called that. They are always unplanned.
Please encourage all riders to wear “all the gear all the time (ATGATT). One day you will be thankful you did.
I’m sure other people are thinking it, but I’ll say it….no one asked for your opinion. This is America, the land of the free. People have the choice to wear equipment, smoke, drink and do all kinds of stuff that’s not good for their health. Snoop Dog has millions of followers. A lot are kids. Yet he’s open about smoking weed. Are you concerned about that too? If more people were concerned about themselves instead of others, this word would be a much better place. If this guy eats shit and becomes a vegetable, that’s his choice. I’m sure he knows all the risks. I’m sure his viewers do as well
All good points, but this is not the forum for it. Sorry you busted your a__
With how quiet exhausts have gotten engines sound like they are tearing themselves apart at times. Valve Lash, Fuel injectors, Cam chains the list goes on. Engines just make noise and the exhausts are no longer drowning out the sounds. My 2020 R3 made random clicking & squeaking noises on decel, Versus 2020 X300 has cam Chain rattle between 2-4k rpm, 2004 Harley Davidson Sportster 1200 made tons of steady lifter noise if you listened for it, and my current 2022 MT-07 has valve clatter and cam Chain noise around 3-5K RPM. My friends KTM 1290 Adventure is constantly rattling, Cars make very similar concerning sounds if you really pay attention. Point being no engine is made the same and 1 might be very quiet and another sound like a Change purse even if it's the same exact model, it doesn't mean anything is wrong sometimes "strange" noises mean it's running properly!
My van rattles like all hell sometimes. I've gone over every inch of it and nothing is out of place or broken so i learned to live with it. Things rattle, things make noises.. Hell, even our bodies do it from time to time (a nice click in your knees when bending down lol). As long as everything is in its right place and it works as intended it's the sort of thing i'd rather just ignore.
I think revzilla has those hand guard mounts now. They sell zeta stuff now. I don’t think they did before.
My 2 stroke has all the k rattles lol
I have a 300l and I have the rattle. I have around 650 miles on it. It bothers me, simply because it's new and making a noise. Lol. I talked to the dealer and they said they haven't had any complaints. So I hope mine goes away with a few more miles.
Post a video about those core moto lines. Maybe hook us up with the length and hardware so we know what to order. Core Moto hasn't made a kit for the 300L yet
I bought one in the Philippines and I found this video because mine was rattling like crazy and I had not heard about it yet. It sounds like detonation to me but now that I know they all do it, I won’t worry about it. I cannot see Honda rolling with it if they thought this were a serious issue as this bike is worldwide and inexpensive so it will sell well and quite a lot of warranty expenses if it were a real issue. I am running premium fuel but who knows what the actual octane is for it here in Philippines. I may get one of the bores opes just to see if there are any sign of detonation over the long haul.
I noticed a vibration around 5k first day. Didn’t love it, but it was paid for already, and it didn’t really bother me. I thought, “that’s the way it is. That vibration up my butt happened on a Yamaha T-max, and I didn’t buy it.
Mine even started making the noise while sitting at a traffic light. Kind of annoying, I assume it is the cam chain tensioner or something. Just rattles for a couple of seconds, then stops. 250L
My `20 250L makes that noise. Not sure it's any better or worse after 1400 miles, but I'm not concerned about it. A 250cc single is bound to have some strange vibes/harmonics somewhere in the Rev range, especially when you're not under much of a load. Many other engines make similar noises. It's possible that this is mainly a paranoia based issue more than anything else.
I hear ya! (It?) I got that rattle on my new CRF300L too. The more I read, the better I feel about it. Kinda reminds me of an old ‘73 2-stroke Yam 175 Enduro I had with a nasty sloppy piston knock! Lol
Really lovin my new ride!
The rattle is something I unfortunately noticed right away after getting the 300L new...glad I got it new or I would have been allot more concerned about the noise, but it does slightly annoy me since the noise occurs worst right at a typical street cruising speed (5th gear @ ~60km/h). Not the end of the world though but I do see why it is talked about so much. I'm at about 1500km already did the first service and mine hasn't gone away unfortunately as yours seems to have. Maybe I have to up my wheelie game lol! 2 things I've noticed though: the noise doesn't occur until the bike is warmed up, and noise doesn't occur unless moving (if you sit still in neutral and hold the RPMs up, no rattle at all). To me definitely sounds like an engine related noise but I'm not sure why it would only occur while moving then? In the end, must be normal if everyone has it I guess!
its the slipper clutch making noise, ie only does it in gear
I see you have new bark busters and bar.
I have right at 1200 miles on mine now. The 5k rattle went away somewhere right after my break in oil change
I've had my 300l for about a week now with close to 300 miles and I haven't noticed the rattle noise
From day one I heard the noise. Sounds like bad gas, piston slap, or chain slap... but definitely right at 5000k. Took it to the dealer and they acted dumb and treated me the same. I was told to buy better gas... premium non-ethanol. I was using non-ethanol regular. Premium did very little... in performance or noise cancellation. I tried to find what Honda recommends to no avail. Guess I should have looked it up here so I could have shown them these posts. I don't feel quite as dumb now. Thanks.
I dont know if i found the solution for every one but it worked for me after cheeking every wild theory and found nothing to pin that rattle i was convince it came for the engine most likely the timing chain and then i noticed the driving chain was a little lose so i adjusted it and NO MORE dog on rattle ! hope this help.
When I installed ECU from 550 performance, as well as a full exhaust that 5K rattle went away
What speed and gear can you lifte the frontwheel on that bike?
I was concerned about it at first, then I remembered that our old TRX200 quad made the same kind of noises back on the farm. Maybe I'm mistaken.
We got the same noise did u figure it out the noise coming from?
My 2022 crf 450 rl started rattling recently it’s not even close to the break In period yet…
Isn't the 300 motor just a bored and stroked 250 motor? Based on the cbr250? I haven't heard anything but reliable for the engines. Meant to be full throttle all the time on the freeway type of bike.
How often should I tighten my chain if I do wheelies? I heard it’s a lot more wear and tear on my chain if I do wheelie a lot
Check before each ride, enduro bikes have abit more slack than street bikes.
Done the break in oil yet?
I have KTM 790 Adv R, but this bike somehow attracts me a lot :D
Bars do look great!
All 286cc Honda engines do it , varies a little revs and volume bike to bike ... I have 2017 Crf250 rally with cbr300r motor in it - it doesn’t it too... nothing to worry about - the 249cc motor is actually “smoother” somehow... cbr300r owners report it too..
I heard someone once say it was the reed valve in the EGR emissions garbage. He said once he removed it that it went away. It's not a critical moving part in the engine. And there's little to no performance gain in removing it. So there's probably no reason for concern... Just send it
the crf is not a Japanese motorcycle anymore made in Thailand I believe quality sadly will never be like old school XR s that help build Hondas reputation for reliability.
i LOVE SEEING THE SURVEYOR IN THE STREET
Got 3500 km on mine and the rattle has not got any worse so I am not too worried about it.
Was looking for this bike couldn't find it ended up with the cb300r love it
What year?
2021
You never rode an Royal Enfield Himalayan. This Engine makes Mechanical Noise as an Symphonie Orchestra. And you know what? It works man, it's called mechanic. :-)
Do you have model number and size for the bars etc?
Mine rattles at 5k always did since new, has 3700 miles on in now 2021crf300
The "Pig" I love it!
I was thinking there had to be a fix for that brake line loop. What were they thinking?😂
My grom had a rattle and ended up being the ignition key vibrating. Took forever to find. Lol. It all went away after replacing the crappy factory chain to a gold d.i.d.
Yeah I learned pretty quick that having any keychain/extra keys hanging off the ignition makes loads of noise
Mine was just a single key with no ring, that's what was puzzling. Even stranger is how replacing the chain fixed it.
@@barthutchison4207 Ok yeah that's some real wizardry in that diagnosis lol