Are people forgetting the fact that Logan lied about sleeping with Madison in the first place? Even after Veronica asked him point blank when they reconciled if he was hiding anymore secrets? I am pretty sure that played a part in why she couldn't forgive him as well. Veronica was willing to forgive Logan for sleeping with someone else during their "break", but Logan didn't own up to what he did, which is why Veronica has this reaction in the first place.
Actually he didn't lie. When veronica asked him.if he was with anyone while they were broken up he said "I fooled around with this horrible girl that meant less than nothing to me and I couldn't regret it more."
I would react the exact same way in her situation. I feel like Logan does a lot of stuff out of spite, whether he realises it or not, and Veronica deserves better than that.
Lol Veronica doesn’t deserve shit. She’s a bitch. She doesn’t get to push him away and then get pissed when he sleeps with someone else while they are broken up. I don’t think so
@@boomds5602 It's not the fact that he slept with someone else, it was WHO he chose to sleep with. He knew that Veronica had issues with Madison and that sleeping with her would cause a great deal of pain to Veronica, but he did it anyway. Probably out of spite. That's why he is a jackass.
@@MsEdgely He was wasted. I doubt he was thinking about much of anything besides wanting to have sex. Doubt he much cared about who it was with as long as she was willing. I highly doubt this was to spite Veronica. Logan's a do now, think later kind of guy. And Logan likes girls and likes sex. But he loves Veronica.
@@marshmallow8785 Yeah, but Veronica wouldn't see it that way. All she would care about was that the guy she loved went with someone she hated (for good reason) - it's like the ultimate betrayal.
@@MsEdgely They were broken up when it happened. She has every right to be hurt over what happened, but it's not like he cheated on her. Also her moral high ground here is ridiculous with her blaming Madison for her rape. Get it together Veronica, Madison did not roofie V on purpose. Madison could have just as easily been the victim of rape that night instead of V. Veronica is misplacing the blame on Madison and then using it to overreact to what Logan did. If she wants to blame someone who is still alive, it should be Dick. But, Veronica seems to have no issues with Logan hanging out with him.
Logan knowingly hid this information from Veronica, because he anticipated that it would hurt her. If what he had done was fine, then why did he feel the need to cover it up?
He told her he fooled around with a girl who meant nothing to him and it made him sick thinking of it. What he did was fine. Veronica as always was just irrational
logan may not have betrayed her in the literal sense but her did sleep with veronica s arch enyme i mean when she was with him she had to of shared how much she hated her! and after they broke up they were still friends and that was like her big nemisis!!!!! I would have been pissed evan if we were friends! to me it wasnt a thing about his faith it was about betraying his friendship!!!!
It disgust me that people are really in this comment section say that she had no right to this information. She was actively sleeping with Logan at that time and he lied about his past sexual encounter. What if he got something from Madison then gave it to Veronica? He lied to her so protect himself. If someone does something knowing that it will hurt someone they love than knowingly and actively lies about it... that isn't them protecting the person its them saving their own ass. Because they know that person will walk out of their life.
I do believe she overreacted but when you love someone as much as she loves him, any sort of betrayal seems like the most gut wrenching pride gouging act.
Veronica is a great character, but, dare I say it, she is a bit self-righteous. She has made mistakes, incorrect accusations and sometimes takes foolish risks. A strong female, and often a head-strong individual. A bit immature, too, I dare say. Having said this, the most interesting characters are flawed. Both her father & Logan love her unconditionally, yet she frequently rebukes them. I would like to see Rob Thomas explore the 'maturing' of Veronica Mars
I definitely felt that way in season 1. She'd learn a bit of information, make assumptions and avoid Logan until he'd confront her. In this situation, she confronts him and tells him what she's upset about. He basically says "I didn't tell you because you didn't have a right to know. I knew it would upset you." Like that makes it OK. I think I'm on Team Veronica for this one. Loan really needs to keep it in his pants sometimes.
FuzzyButtStinkyFace how could you be team Veronica on that? Logan was right. She didn’t have a right to know and he didn’t have to tell her. Veronica basically dumped him for his best friend. That’s way worse than this.
@@boomds5602 She absolutely had the right to that information. And she was right - it could have been anyone but Madison. Logan knew how much she hurt Veronica. He knew. And he did it anyway.
I love how this conversation has been going on for 9 years now, and I'll jump right in. A few points I'd like to raise: uhm, Logan broke up with Veronica, he didn't think they'd ever get back together so he was entitled to do what he wanted; second, he actually told her when they were being open with each other, he just didn't say the name. Veronica could have asked then but didn't, and she forgave him for that. She can't just take her forgiveness back?? I love Veronica Mars but I've always disliked Veronica. Like the time she accused Weevil of the robbery so confidently. "After all we've been through" said Weevil, and he's right. I don't know how people put up with her.
I just always hated that Veronica was OK with Dick and Logan being friends, than she was with Madison who didn't really do anything to her (knowingly). I'd be more pissed off at Logan for continuing to hang out with Dick.
@@mannamorris8504 I think the point was Madison didn't know the drink was roofied. She DID spit in the drink and gave it to Veronica (an asshole move, YES, but nowhere near as bad as roofieing someone), but it was DICK who actually put the roofie in the drink and gave it to Madison in order (I think he claimed) to knock Madison out for the night so he could go sleep with some other girl. So in reality it's Dick's fault Veronica was assaulted because he knowingly introduced a roofied drink to the chaotic party situation, therefore it's really Dick who Veronica should hate and want Logan not to associate with anymore.
@@LoganBluth she wrote SLUT on her windshield after she was raped. Also Madison tormented and bullied her for years. IDK why y'all are defending her saying it wasn't her fault and she was a fine character like she constantly is harassing Veronica.
@@alexisd6106 Who on earth said Madison was "a fine character"...? Please, point me to where anyone claimed as much. What we're saying is: Madison was an awful character and complete asshole, but Dick is worse because he is directly responsible for the worst thing that ever happened to Veronica. Knowing this, it's weird that Veronica was fine with Logan continuing to be best friends with Dick even after she found out what happened, but completely lost her mind when Logan slept with Madison during the period after Veronica broke up with Logan and went back to dating Duncan. Basically - Madison was ACCIDENTALLY, and with no knowledge, involved with Veronica's trauma, while Dick actively caused it by putting the roofie in a drink at the party and pressuring Beaver to assault her while she was passed out.
I really wish they would run a little where are they now mini series on the CW or online just to give us some closure. I wanted to see Logan and Veronica together!
I think she was totally unfair to him, I find it weird that she would throw away their whole relationship because he slept with Madison when they were broken up, no matter how much she hates the girl. She is too hard on him every time : like when she just didn't show to the date on the boat without an explanation, or she left the house because she found out there was a camera in the room and each single he didn't do anything. She is always so quick to condemn him.
Lol no cheating took place, they were NOT together, he broke up with her. And she also has never voiced that hatred so vividly to Logan before. And once again, he didn't cheat on her.
She didn't put any drugs in her drink, what the freak you are talking about? Madison's drink was spiked by Dick, she ended up spitting in the cup and giving it to Veronica. If she wasn't mad at Logan continuing being best friends with Dick, why would she be so angry at Madison? @@SuperLovebug8
Madison did not drug her. Like what is this scene? I used to love Veronica Mars, but I realise as I grown older how misogynic the show was. Really disapointing because the show seems to want to portray a powerful woman. But they just made Veronica to be "not like other girls". Logan is shit. Remember all his racist and sexist crap? Or all his violence? I used to love LoVe, I know better now.
Also it's baffling that she acts like Madison is this horrible person when in fact she is NOT. How was she supposed to know V was drunk? She just saw a girl flirting with her boyfriend (Dick). She is blaming the wrong persons for her misfortune. Anyway the movie will be filmed this summer, I'm super excited.
Are people forgetting the fact that Logan lied about sleeping with Madison in the first place? Even after Veronica asked him point blank when they reconciled if he was hiding anymore secrets? I am pretty sure that played a part in why she couldn't forgive him as well. Veronica was willing to forgive Logan for sleeping with someone else during their "break", but Logan didn't own up to what he did, which is why Veronica has this reaction in the first place.
Actually he didn't lie. When veronica asked him.if he was with anyone while they were broken up he said "I fooled around with this horrible girl that meant less than nothing to me and I couldn't regret it more."
He did tell her he slept with someone but he didnt say who it was. She forgave him for it. But once she found out who it was, she broke it off.
@jamie fraser wasn’t that Madison?
i think its just the point of she was really mad at this but the guy who tried to rape her was still friends and it was ok
Im always left hurting for him at his reaction when she makes the vomit comment. He realizes how much he hurt her and it hurts him
I would react the exact same way in her situation. I feel like Logan does a lot of stuff out of spite, whether he realises it or not, and Veronica deserves better than that.
Lol Veronica doesn’t deserve shit. She’s a bitch. She doesn’t get to push him away and then get pissed when he sleeps with someone else while they are broken up. I don’t think so
@@boomds5602 It's not the fact that he slept with someone else, it was WHO he chose to sleep with. He knew that Veronica had issues with Madison and that sleeping with her would cause a great deal of pain to Veronica, but he did it anyway. Probably out of spite. That's why he is a jackass.
@@MsEdgely He was wasted. I doubt he was thinking about much of anything besides wanting to have sex. Doubt he much cared about who it was with as long as she was willing. I highly doubt this was to spite Veronica. Logan's a do now, think later kind of guy. And Logan likes girls and likes sex. But he loves Veronica.
@@marshmallow8785 Yeah, but Veronica wouldn't see it that way. All she would care about was that the guy she loved went with someone she hated (for good reason) - it's like the ultimate betrayal.
@@MsEdgely They were broken up when it happened. She has every right to be hurt over what happened, but it's not like he cheated on her. Also her moral high ground here is ridiculous with her blaming Madison for her rape. Get it together Veronica, Madison did not roofie V on purpose. Madison could have just as easily been the victim of rape that night instead of V. Veronica is misplacing the blame on Madison and then using it to overreact to what Logan did. If she wants to blame someone who is still alive, it should be Dick. But, Veronica seems to have no issues with Logan hanging out with him.
Logan knowingly hid this information from Veronica, because he anticipated
that it would hurt her. If what he had done was fine, then why did he
feel the need to cover it up?
He told her he fooled around with a girl who meant nothing to him and it made him sick thinking of it. What he did was fine. Veronica as always was just irrational
try to be in her place, would you be fine with the love of your life sleeping with your worst enemy, someone you completely hate and despise?
@@boomds5602 she asked him before if he anything happened while they were broken up and he lied to her face
@@boomds5602 eww.. how could u defend his ass?? pathetic
logan may not have betrayed her in the literal sense but her did sleep with veronica s arch enyme i mean when she was with him she had to of shared how much she hated her! and after they broke up they were still friends and that was like her big nemisis!!!!! I would have been pissed evan if we were friends! to me it wasnt a thing about his faith it was about betraying his friendship!!!!
It disgust me that people are really in this comment section say that she had no right to this information. She was actively sleeping with Logan at that time and he lied about his past sexual encounter. What if he got something from Madison then gave it to Veronica? He lied to her so protect himself. If someone does something knowing that it will hurt someone they love than knowingly and actively lies about it... that isn't them protecting the person its them saving their own ass. Because they know that person will walk out of their life.
true, people who say that might be simping on him
I do believe she overreacted but when you love someone as much as she loves him, any sort of betrayal seems like the most gut wrenching pride gouging act.
Thanks so much for uploading this.
I really miss VM and Veronica and Logan =)
Verônica exige fidelidade até quando eles não estão juntos, como se ela não ficasse com mais ninguém na série
Veronica is a great character, but, dare I say it, she is a bit self-righteous. She has made mistakes, incorrect accusations and sometimes takes foolish risks. A strong female, and often a head-strong individual. A bit immature, too, I dare say. Having said this, the most interesting characters are flawed. Both her father & Logan love her unconditionally, yet she frequently rebukes them. I would like to see Rob Thomas explore the 'maturing' of Veronica Mars
I definitely felt that way in season 1. She'd learn a bit of information, make assumptions and avoid Logan until he'd confront her. In this situation, she confronts him and tells him what she's upset about. He basically says "I didn't tell you because you didn't have a right to know. I knew it would upset you." Like that makes it OK. I think I'm on Team Veronica for this one. Loan really needs to keep it in his pants sometimes.
FuzzyButtStinkyFace ***Logan
FuzzyButtStinkyFace how could you be team Veronica on that? Logan was right. She didn’t have a right to know and he didn’t have to tell her. Veronica basically dumped him for his best friend. That’s way worse than this.
@@boomds5602 She absolutely had the right to that information. And she was right - it could have been anyone but Madison. Logan knew how much she hurt Veronica. He knew. And he did it anyway.
I love how this conversation has been going on for 9 years now, and I'll jump right in. A few points I'd like to raise: uhm, Logan broke up with Veronica, he didn't think they'd ever get back together so he was entitled to do what he wanted; second, he actually told her when they were being open with each other, he just didn't say the name. Veronica could have asked then but didn't, and she forgave him for that. She can't just take her forgiveness back?? I love Veronica Mars but I've always disliked Veronica. Like the time she accused Weevil of the robbery so confidently. "After all we've been through" said Weevil, and he's right. I don't know how people put up with her.
I just always hated that Veronica was OK with Dick and Logan being friends, than she was with Madison who didn't really do anything to her (knowingly). I'd be more pissed off at Logan for continuing to hang out with Dick.
madison drugged her at the party after lily died, that’s why she hated her so much
@@mannamorris8504 I think the point was Madison didn't know the drink was roofied. She DID spit in the drink and gave it to Veronica (an asshole move, YES, but nowhere near as bad as roofieing someone), but it was DICK who actually put the roofie in the drink and gave it to Madison in order (I think he claimed) to knock Madison out for the night so he could go sleep with some other girl. So in reality it's Dick's fault Veronica was assaulted because he knowingly introduced a roofied drink to the chaotic party situation, therefore it's really Dick who Veronica should hate and want Logan not to associate with anymore.
I agree !
@@LoganBluth she wrote SLUT on her windshield after she was raped. Also Madison tormented and bullied her for years. IDK why y'all are defending her saying it wasn't her fault and she was a fine character like she constantly is harassing Veronica.
@@alexisd6106 Who on earth said Madison was "a fine character"...? Please, point me to where anyone claimed as much. What we're saying is: Madison was an awful character and complete asshole, but Dick is worse because he is directly responsible for the worst thing that ever happened to Veronica. Knowing this, it's weird that Veronica was fine with Logan continuing to be best friends with Dick even after she found out what happened, but completely lost her mind when Logan slept with Madison during the period after Veronica broke up with Logan and went back to dating Duncan.
Basically - Madison was ACCIDENTALLY, and with no knowledge, involved with Veronica's trauma, while Dick actively caused it by putting the roofie in a drink at the party and pressuring Beaver to assault her while she was passed out.
Nah it was obvious that Madison didn't know she was being roofied.
I really wish they would run a little where are they now mini series on the CW or online just to give us some closure. I wanted to see Logan and Veronica together!
Good video
one of the many reasons why i do not ship Logan and Veronica at all
Good scene
veronica isnt wrong for been mad at logan
I didn't say Madison knew. i ment it wouldn't surprise me that if she knew there was GHP in the drink she would still have done it.
What episode was this?
Can you tell me what series this is?Please
im told they are making a movie
what season is this from
Je ne me souviens pas très bien de quel épisode entre le 11, 12 et le 13 mais c'était un de ceux-là. Saison 3.
I think she was totally unfair to him, I find it weird that she would throw away their whole relationship because he slept with Madison when they were broken up, no matter how much she hates the girl. She is too hard on him every time : like when she just didn't show to the date on the boat without an explanation, or she left the house because she found out there was a camera in the room and each single he didn't do anything. She is always so quick to condemn him.
Season 3.
What name is this show
Veronica Mars
Lol no cheating took place, they were NOT together, he broke up with her. And she also has never voiced that hatred so vividly to Logan before. And once again, he didn't cheat on her.
BnPac1 not the point it's the fact he slept with the girl who put date rape drug in her drink and she though for a long time she was raped
She didn't put any drugs in her drink, what the freak you are talking about? Madison's drink was spiked by Dick, she ended up spitting in the cup and giving it to Veronica. If she wasn't mad at Logan continuing being best friends with Dick, why would she be so angry at Madison? @@SuperLovebug8
Madison did not drug her. Like what is this scene? I used to love Veronica Mars, but I realise as I grown older how misogynic the show was. Really disapointing because the show seems to want to portray a powerful woman. But they just made Veronica to be "not like other girls".
Logan is shit. Remember all his racist and sexist crap? Or all his violence? I used to love LoVe, I know better now.
No she's still great lol
Also it's baffling that she acts like Madison is this horrible person when in fact she is NOT. How was she supposed to know V was drunk? She just saw a girl flirting with her boyfriend (Dick). She is blaming the wrong persons for her misfortune.
Anyway the movie will be filmed this summer, I'm super excited.