I’ve been away from car content for the last several months and I come back and still see people being “butt hurt” about the MK5 Supra and still running with falsehoods about it being unreliable.
That's never going to change. 5 years later people still make the same goofy Z4 joke and don't bother to learn or apply the things I talk about in these videos to make cool cars relatively obtainable.
I disagree with your comments on the B58 having no character. You compare it to a V8, and are basically saying they sound different. Of course they do. If you prefer the sound of a V8, you'll need to get a V8 and cam it. That doesn't give it the sound of "character" though...it gives it the sound of a V8. It's just different. I, personally, *LOVE* the sound of a smooth screaming B58. I'm not a huge fan of choppy V8's. It just comes down to personal preference, not "character".
It’s definitely personal preference my friend. Mostly because I’m in and out of these cars all the time I’m just over these vacuum cleaner turbos this industry is flooded with…
@@MeynMotorGroup Not telling you how to do your thing, but maybe consider just saying you prefer the sound of a V8 over a turbo inline six? Saying it doesn't have "character" is doing it an injustice. It does have character, it's just not the character you want to hear. Sorry, I own a '22 3.0 Premium, and the sound is actually one of the things I really like about it😁
@@tizodd6 massive congrats on your purchase my friend! I’m sure you can tell in this detailed review, I love driving this car. It’s one of the best handling vehicles for the money and a joy on back roads. If you love the Engine as well, then God Bless!
I have own my 2021 supra premium for 3 years, I love every bit of it. My car is not a normal car by any mean. I have turned it to be a beast with 1000 horsepowers and I have been in love with it since day one. I ove your review very in-depth, you are one of the best car review out there. I am really appreciated your honest review, keep up the good work bro!
Wow a 1000 hp? That is epic my friend massive congrats regarding your Supra now you def injected some character into that car and then some 😅 you should do more videos on it!
@@MeynMotorGroup thank you! Always happy to see these reviews. Especially when they’re well done. I also got mine at sticker price brand new - adding this now that i finished the whole review
Wow! You are brutally honest! I think the engine has its own character, but not really in stock form. Toyota can barely do an oil change on these cars and most BMW dealerships won’t touch them. This is NOT the car to get if you’re not familiar with repairing, building or modding cars. Better support in social media and other enthusiasts. Supra is a simple drivers car. Very basic as a sports car should be!
this is the one thing that scares me. i will need to find a private shop. I used to all my own work. but now at 50 years old i cant do alot of things i used too. but o own one so iam in it to win it.
Sports cars are for those with disposable incomes. Those with money are not confused, they have their two go to products, Corvette and Porsche. Porsche sells 10k-11k 911s per years and like 4k 718 models. GM sells over 30k C8 Corvettes per year over the past 3 years. Even a cheap sports car like a Miata sells well under 10k units per year. In the 30k-60k sports car range, Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger dominate. Most just want power.
@@MeynMotorGroup That’s not the right take brother. Yes disposable incomes are important and I’m blessed to be in this category owning a 2023 MKV 6MT as my garage queen. My neighbor bought a 2023 Miata and when we drove mine he was blown away at the driving experience and engagement. Is it better than a Porsche even a used Porsche? I will say no, but it’s not meant to be better than a Porsche. It’s a sweet spot. The only thing confusing about this car is the BMW and Toyota collaboration. By saying what you mentioned, it’s like you’re saying MKIV owners didn’t know what they were doing buying them and even till this day because it wasn’t a pure sports car in the Porsche sense. If you want to look at sales figures, the MKV never had a chance following up the most iconic jdm car of the 90’s that was the MKIV and it was never meant to be better. It’s simply meant to bring plenty of smiles per gallon rowing through my gears and rev matching. No car could follow up the MKIV. It’s like going after Van Halen in their prime. Just can’t follow that up. Toyota knew this and didn’t want to lose their ass like they did on the LFA with poor sales and somehow now it’s an iconic car… go figure. Life is too short. Enjoy what you drive. In the famous words of Doug DeMuro, “Historically controversial cars or cars that are misunderstood long term end up being wanted”. It’s like we don’t like it when it’s here then want it when it’s gone. Human nature
Coming form a 2019 Scatpack charger and 2020 mustang GT I think the 2020 b58 in the Supra has way more character than the 2021 .5 trough 2024 in my opinion. My buddy has a 2022 Supra and it’s sound vastly different than my 2020 due to the two port manifold design compared to the six ported in newer models; results in more pops and bangs. In regular mode it just sound like a x5 but in sport mode it has crazy amounts of pop’s especially in 2nd and 4th gear.
So I used to have a 2019 440i with the B58 and that also did not sound too inspiring but that could be because it was a non M model at the time. Regarding the Supra tho, you might be right they may have nerfed this over the years
@ned1182 My 2024 does the same. I typically keep Sport mode off while cruising on the highway (better gas mileage), and hit the Sport button in the city.
I like the way the the B58 sounds, yea it's different than the V8s you compare it to...but I wouldn't say it doesn't have character. It has its own turbo engine sound. V8s sound cool, hi revving V10 and V12 that's where it's at.
I had one for a year- it was consuming 1 quart of oil every 700-1,000 miles. That aside, the ride quality was understandably stiff as a shortwheelbase car but it got annoying after the initial ownership novelty wore off. I'm 6'2 and fit in it fine, but long trips would get tiresome. The blindspots at the quarterpanels are exceptionally bad- it's like driving with a hoodie on. Fortunately the rear end is fairly short so you're not pulling a lot of ass behind you in that blindspot. I picked up a '22 LC500 dynamic 6 months ago and am very happy with that instead.
Exactly the novelty wears off quick with stuff like this. So hard to convey this to people they think if they buy a car like this they will never get tired of it. Cars with a soul like your new LC you can hang onto a lot longer and not get bored of it as easily. Because it doesn’t make sense on paper, people think we’re just making this up since most have no seat time in this stuff
Seems like you got unlucky and got one of the new engines with oil consumption issues. It is quite rare, but it is a problem that the 2021+ engines have, and normally the dealer should deal with it.
Welcome to the retirement club.😏 Really, though, the LC500 is similar to the Jag F-Type in that both are quiet and comfortable cruisers. If I had one to compliment Mt Supra and MX5, I'd get the LC500h, which gets superior mileage compared to the LC500. Here in CA, premium fuel is near $5.50/gallon.
The B58 has no character?? That sound is the way Toyota tuned it to sound and how it’s piped into the cabin! That does not have anything to do with the character of the engine my friend. It’s your choice of words. Which is not terrible, but to say an engine like that BMW B58 or the S58 don’t have character is an understatement (under estimate it’s real world potential in sound and character), so.. However. You are one of the best auto journalists out there! And your words are not taken lightly bro. Keep up the great work soldier. 😉
So you think this has more character and soul than a 5.0l V8? I don’t think any mainstream turbo engine does my friend not sure why that’s difficult to see especially when I inserted exhaust clips in the vid…
How is it any fair to compare the sound of an I6 turbo to NA V8’s? That’s like comparing apples to oranges. You should’ve compared it to other 6 cylinder engines. But I do agree that most performance V8’s do have more character than the B58; however, this motor still sounds pretty good (especially when paired with a full Akrapovic exhaust). Btw, I don’t think BMW honors warranty thru aftermarket Dinan parts anymore (although I’m not 100% sure).
I think the more important question is, why are these billion dollar companies charging us $60k for something that sounds like a dyson when those apples and oranges you mentioned can be had for $20k less...
@@MeynMotorGroup Umm what?… All those cars you compared it to (LC500, CT5BW, Mustang GT) are all AT LEAST $20k more, NOT $20k less. Also, I think you would’ve liked this car much more if you had driven the 6spd manual version instead of the auto 8spd…
@@CarsOverPeople LC aside how is it fair that you’re just going to completely disregard the $40k LT1 Camaro and the 5.0l Mustang… And how can I forget the remaining challengers that can be had for dirt cheap which you conveniently left out. It’s always fair for people to make things up and slander me but nothing is fair when I bring up a perfectly good point 😅😂 My original point remains, this B58 lacks soul, a freaking Genesis G70 twin turbo V6 sounds better than this if you want to compare your apples. AMG does a good job with their turbos as well, but a good sounding factory turbo is far and few between. We’re car enthusiasts this shouldn’t be difficult to get… so many people are in love with classic cars, why? For their character which MOST new cars lack. Auto versions of most cars allow you to get the pops and bangs out of the exhaust a little bit easier, most manuals suck nowadays just rubbery and ambiguous hopefully the one in the Supra is good but most are not sadly.
@@MeynMotorGroup Bruh, I agreed with you that the B58 engine is a bit soulless (although I haven’t driven or been in one yet so I could be wrong about my own opinion). But even price differences apart, you should not be comparing a 6 cylinder to an 8 cylinder… As far as 6 cylinder engines go, the only one I can think of that is better than the B58 is Porsche’s flat 6 engines. Modern AMG engines are too complicated (aka unreliable) & expensive to maintain/fix, but BMW’s B58 has been proven to be pretty dang reliable & relatively cheap to own. Every other reviewerer has been praising the Supra’s manual so I’m sure it’s good. Toyota didn’t just take it from bmw & slap it on, they actually changed a lot of things on the manual tranny to make it solid.
@@CarsOverPeople my apologies I should have specified I’m not just directing this towards you but in general I get flooded with messages from people who absolutely don’t listen or read my content and are quick to slander and take away from the message (which is produced to solely help you the consumer, there is no profit in me making content like this. I’m better off just being dishonest and say every new car is great) I love the people too much to do that but typically my reward for it is just spit on my face from the very same people I try to help or they simply make up new arguments that have nothing to do with the original point. Which is fine, I’m used to it. Yea if the mainstream says the manual is good, I’m sure it is. Thanks again for stopping by my friend. God Bless.
Nah I understand Supra is def a lot cheaper, apparently is holding value well, and drives amazing while retaining pretty exotic looks. Just wish there were more discounts on these
@@MeynMotorGroupIt's all about supply and demand. C8 Corvettes are now going for thousands under msrp. They will never be as reliable nor rare as the GR Supra. My 45th Anniv Supra was $1500 over msrp, last November.
It's a sharp looking car, and TBH I don't think it sounds that bad, compared to others, the only nit pick that people could bring up is you're being unfair comparing a turbo 6 to NAV8's if you're going to compare then use NA6's, it's a lot of car for the money but like you say tricky to look after, which can be a major draw back of collab's between manufacturers.
It's ok I just feel they could do better with this engine, freaking Genesis with their G70 and variable exhaust had a better tone than this of course it's all subjective but most turbo turds don't do sound well AMG is one of the few exceptions and some exotic stuff. It might be unfair to bring up V8s but when those V8s undercut this car by $10k-$20k...I think it's more unfair that a Billion Dollar company is giving us a sports car with a dyson under the hood 😂
@@Excalabur50 they did a great job with that G70 and yea here in the States (while they are still on sale) those V8 muscle cars are just unreal value if Supra had some discounts I would def be more into it cuz I love driving it
Will you ever do a in depth review of a C7 corvette ? i know you did a review of sorts with a c7 grand sport years ago, but i was hoping of a review in this style of video format ( impressions, suggestions for that price , etc etc) , great work btw ! :)
Honestly my friend, probably not as it is a used car and can't get one as press cars anymore. Drove a C7 on 3 different occasions and it's a hyper capable car but not very exciting sadly. I personally prefer driving a Camaro to the C7 and C8 (of course the vettes are probably more capable on a track or whatever) but I just like how communicative the Camaro feels. C6 Corvette was my favorite to drive, very exciting car. Supra and C6 are pretty similar minus the engine.
I do like the adaptive cruise in my 45th Anniv with auto transm. I also agree that handling and power is very acceptable. Regarding music, I simply plug in a usb drive with my large playlist in it. It might be nice to have Android Auto for my Samsung S23 Ultra (a step above any iphone), but I connect to bluetooth for phone calls.
First, you compare V8 to V6...is there a V6 that you can compare this engine too...maybe a exhaust can help? Good Vid though. I heard the slow shifting of the manual can help with that character.
@@BigBladeFanyou will love it! Own 2021 3.0 3 and half years still smiles on my face and always exiting to drive ! Be careful in winter summer tires don’t do well! Maybe get a 2nd car beater or something for winter!
@@MeynMotorGroup Exactly. It really feels agile and grounded. 5 months later and I still can't stop driving it. Underrated car that gets unnecessary hate online---but in real life it steals the show on the road.
Cargo tote $60, lawn chair $100, Dashcam $570 (installation is not included lmao). I can't help but laugh at these prices. I know most people will throw it in the financing and not think about it but wow.
And off topic bro but just got another transmission flush last Saturday morning but from the Lexus Dealership instead of the Toyota dealership lol I’ve learned you have to tell Lexus you use your car for towing to do so otherwise they won’t do it and the flush compared to the transmission change that’s a whole another story for me will tell you that part 2 of the story when you respond back off my comment. 🤝😎
@@MeynMotorGroup I couldn’t wait for our response and me telling you my couple experiences with a transmission fluid change yes bro your correct on your first statement I lied and said I tow my vehicle lol that’s the only way they will do the transmission fluid change but before they said they don’t do it so I had to find a Toyota dealership that did for my first transmission fluid flush and now this is my second and yes bro I’ve really noticed a difference much smoother especially with execration noticed how smooth that was with normal driving when I left the Lexus Dealership I do all my fluid changes with but the tricky question I have for you what’s your option on a Transmission fluid change or a Transmission fluid flush because for me being a car nerd lol and goggling and reading up on it I saw the flush can ruin or be more harsh on a transmission? 🙏🏾🙏🏾.🤝🫡
@@theodoreyoung8777 Gotcha that makes sense and I’m glad you have a smoother driving experience now but I’m also not sure bro when it comes to transmission fluid changes. Some brands say never do it, others say change it every 60k miles or even every 30k miles. Answers are all over the place but we do have two facts, you’ve already done the fluid change and noticed an improvement in the drive…I guess it’s a good move then!
@@theodoreyoung8777 I found the official LS 430 Manual, it does say to change transmission fluid at 60k miles bro www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-3rd-gen-2001-2006/944772-2004-lexus-ls430-service.html
@@MeynMotorGroup Thanx my bro I just used common sense to me that no fluid is lifetime it’s eventually going to get used and dirty thanx for that link my bro going to look at it now 🤝😎👍🏾👍🏾🫡.
Anyone really excited by the Supra? Two buddies of mine sold theirs and kept their GR86. Both own a small fleet, but I thought it was telling that they never drove the Supra.
GR86 is impressive for the money drives just like a Porsche but engine is a snoozer doesn’t sound good at all but the GR86 is quick enough. Supra is the same thing drives amazing but engine doesn’t sound great although much quicker than an 86. Honestly a Supra is better since it’s the same concept enhanced with more speed but def costs way more
@@MeynMotorGroup big fan on my GRC and Toyota in general (even the bmw ones). If I could have 2 door I would have considered 86 for sure. Supra isn’t that interesting to me but I’m sure it would be a blast.
@@joncaseyclary Nice! GRC is sweet I'm sure that's a ton of fun. 86 is incredible value for money the dynamics of that car is top tier I had a chance to drive it on the tail of the dragon
@@joncaseyclaryI have a 2023 A91 6MT and it’s very fun, rowdy and engaging. I can’t speak for the automatic, but my only complaint aside from the stupid BMW comments, is the space inside is tight sports car like which is a given I guess. Honestly the comments and stupid Toyota purists make me want to jump in a Porsche 997.2 just to avoid the negative energy. People need to get over it.
Your right it does have character... in the Ineos Grenadier. Idk how BMW and Toyota tuned this engine to sound this bad but in the Grenadier, the B58 actually has some character and throatieness. I believe I inserted a sound clip in this review, you heard the B58 sound like a Dyson right?
@@MeynMotorGroup no I heard one in person doesn’t sound like Dyson you need to check your hearing maybe something wrong with your ears? Stock exhaust sounds good to me not sure what you hear in your review but definitely has character. Heard bmw b58 in bmw doesn’t sound all that compare to Supra has more pops and crackles .
I was shoping for a mk5 supra but they be having 2 or 3 owner at 5000mil is it because people can't afford it or is it unreliable? Can someone explain?
I didn’t want to mention it in this vid but most of these hyped up cars you will get bored of them after 3-6 months hard to explain but you would have to buy one to understand and get past the honeymoon phase. For some this phase lasts longer than others. That’s why I keep mentioning cars that have a soul you don’t get tired of them as easily. Btw used is a waste of time only buy new and figure out how to get a deal.
By taking advantage of the leasing strategies I talk about in almost every video I make. Literally drove the car for 2 years practically for free. But when I mention it I just get dislikes and people unsubscribing so I guess it's not that important.
@@MeynMotorGroup So, I watched your video: "2020 Lexus LC 500 Review....Masterpiece of Mobility." Do you by chance recall which video you did the financial discussion? Are you measuring the cost by "you paid X in payments, then sold, and very little depreciation, and that's how you arrive at the "it was practically free" conclusion? You're enthusiasm for the LC 500 came though!
Wish it was more Toyota than BMW. Mainly from a reliability standpoint. Completely agree with the your thoughts on the sound. So typical, sounds just like my neighbors BMW's. And yup, good luck getting this serviced at Toyota outside basic stuff like oil and filter. Carcarenut worked on this car and hated it.
I don't understand how anyone can love driving this car. Maybe they fixed the suspension for 2024 but i felt the suspension tuning of this car completely fell apart when pushed hard. Something is absolutely off with the handling. The fake engine noise is also terrible. Same for the constant burbles in the sport mode on decel. This is basically a gateway drug for the m2.
The suspension had some significant upgrades since 2023 models. I've rented the C8 Corvette (very large and heavy), the McLaren 570S Spider (a rocket ship that is amazing), a Porsche 911 4S, Jag F-Type, BMW i8, etc and I am still very impressed whenever I drive my 2024 45th Anniv Supra. It is much more exotic-looking than a BMW M2, 3, or 4.
@hamsterbrigade yes, the 2023+ models received great improvements to steering feedback, suspension, ediff and traction control tuning. I had a 2020, moved on to something else and then came back to a 2023 supra and the changes were very noticeable. I spent a lot of time between those 2 model years.
Does the Supra still have the wind buffering issue at speed with the windows down? If you happened to notice. I've always loved all gens of the Supra, current generation too. However, I love riding with my windows down and that would kind of be a deal breaker if I was in this market.
Almost every car is going to have that issue the fix for that is to crack open the passenger window as well just slightly so wind no longer is buffeting in the cabin
i have one an 6mt mkv and can confrim that a wind buffet piece can completely eliminate the wind buffet. if you want i can send the link for the one i got
@rd4809 Thank you, but I am not in the market yet. I require more seating capacity at this stage in my life. That's really good to know though. Hope you're enjoying that awesome car.
@@MeynMotorGroup yeah I went on cars and bids and peeped their sales. All of em still cost more than I'd care to spend still lmao. I forgot these only came out in 2020. For some reason I was thinking there'd be some 2018 models for good money by now.
@@MeynMotorGroup seems about right. I appreciated the OLD OLD car reviews but I admit I wasn't watching any of the ones from like the 2015-2019 era. I already know about all those cuz those were the years I was shopping. I finally settled with my second Kia, the EV6. Might get me an early 1990s Mercedes that my buddy's trying to get rid of too. You know anything about a 1991 300 SE?
You mention all the engines with character....this is what is so bizarre about the Supra: Toyota didn't design, build, and engineer it. They started with a preexisting platform and "turned" it. Kinda debatable for a car company as large and diverse as Toyota. I'd have some respect if it was a Toyota (tuning doesn't count in my book). A number of people have told me through the comments that the Supra wouldn't have been any good unless they took the approach they took. This is an incredible take in my opinion. Nissan has my respect: They didn't go to another manufacturer for the parts, they used their parts. Damn good looker the Z is.
@@MeynMotorGroup Seems like a helluva lot have it for an overpriced pickup..... Maybe it's a matter of marketing? Not much emphasis on cars...and extreme emphasis on "off road" for SUV/CUV/Pickups.
@@ksorsomeplace it’s not even marketing sales speak for themselves. If people are going to put their financial future in jeopardy and finance $40k-$60k cars it’s going to be something they need and not want which is an SUV to haul stuff and people. Neither of those things are being achieved with a sports car.
I guess you never heard of Gazoo Racing. They are the main reason why the GR Corolla and Yaris are so sought after. The GR Supra is superior to the Nissan Z, not only because of the B58 engine, but also the better chassis tuning.
@@davepaturno4290 Yeah, I've heard of it. My point is Toyota isn't designing it....thus how much of a Toyota is it really? If the yardstick is "tuned by Toyota," then I guess it is a Toyota even though Toyota didn't design and engineer the parts. Comments apply to the Supra only. I've not read much about the Corolla/Yaris.
You can still connect your Android phone to Bluetooth to receive calls. I plug in my Playlist USB to listen to most of the time, but Sirius XM comes in handy.
The Supra is suspension-tuned by Gazoo Racing, meaning it beats the M2 around Virginia International Raceway. That's the ultimate difference, but the Supra also has better steering feedback and a better ride.
That's part of the fun of having one. I'm in my 60s and love my 2024 GR Supra, even after driving a McLaren 570, Corvette C8, Jag F-sport, and Porsche 911 4S. Turo rentals are great for trying out many vehicles.
It's really not "boy racer". It doesn't have a silly spoiler or that kind of styling at all. Civic R is boy racer. Even the styling of the Vette is far more boy racer, with all those ridiculous angles and points sticking out all over the place. The Supra is one of the most beautiful cars there is.
It's a BMW. I'm a Toyota Lexus fanboy and I wouldn't touch this car. Sorry just my opinion. This is not going to have Toyota dependability and ease of working on. If it made sense for Toyota to engineer this whole car they would've but obviously they had to farm out a lot of it.
You opinion is baseless unless you drive a GR Supra. The B58 engine is legendary, as is the ZF-8 transmission (auto). They have been very reliable, especially after Toyota had its hand in that engine. In fact, according to Consumer Report's latest ranking of auto companies, BMW is now at #1. The rankings are based upon: Performance/handling Comfort Reliability Quality Safety Fuel economy Infotainment controls
I drove this and I can tell this car is video game level fast. That said, the high speed steering feel is not properly calibrated, Cadillac and Alfa romeo give better steering feel in my opinion. Also very claustrophobic at least for me. I would get the CT4 V blackwing over this as the manual in that thing has lo lift shift and also the LF4 engine has forged internals and even the twinturbo's are from BORGWARNER EFR series with titanium aluminide wheels which are 50% lighter than regular turbo wheels so spools up much faster, and also there is no substitute for GM magnaride 4.0 as it reads road every 1ms and responds in 5 ms so you never have to compromise between comfort and epic handling. Let me know what you think @MeynMotorGroup.
See my 2024 Acura TLX Type S Review here: ruclips.net/video/rE2MFsTDcLs/видео.html
I’ve been away from car content for the last several months and I come back and still see people being “butt hurt” about the MK5 Supra and still running with falsehoods about it being unreliable.
That's never going to change. 5 years later people still make the same goofy Z4 joke and don't bother to learn or apply the things I talk about in these videos to make cool cars relatively obtainable.
Absolutely love my 23 manual Supra. I’ve had more expensive and faster cars but this is my favorite. It’s so good.
Nice! Massive congrats on your purchase my friend very rare and cool car, drives amazing
I disagree with your comments on the B58 having no character. You compare it to a V8, and are basically saying they sound different. Of course they do. If you prefer the sound of a V8, you'll need to get a V8 and cam it. That doesn't give it the sound of "character" though...it gives it the sound of a V8. It's just different.
I, personally, *LOVE* the sound of a smooth screaming B58. I'm not a huge fan of choppy V8's. It just comes down to personal preference, not "character".
It’s definitely personal preference my friend. Mostly because I’m in and out of these cars all the time I’m just over these vacuum cleaner turbos this industry is flooded with…
@@MeynMotorGroup Not telling you how to do your thing, but maybe consider just saying you prefer the sound of a V8 over a turbo inline six? Saying it doesn't have "character" is doing it an injustice. It does have character, it's just not the character you want to hear.
Sorry, I own a '22 3.0 Premium, and the sound is actually one of the things I really like about it😁
@@tizodd6 massive congrats on your purchase my friend! I’m sure you can tell in this detailed review, I love driving this car. It’s one of the best handling vehicles for the money and a joy on back roads. If you love the Engine as well, then God Bless!
I have own my 2021 supra premium for 3 years, I love every bit of it. My car is not a normal car by any mean. I have turned it to be a beast with 1000 horsepowers and I have been in love with it since day one. I ove your review very in-depth, you are one of the best car review out there. I am really appreciated your honest review, keep up the good work bro!
Wow a 1000 hp? That is epic my friend massive congrats regarding your Supra now you def injected some character into that car and then some 😅 you should do more videos on it!
i love my 6MT MKV. Each drive is an amazing time. personally I am glad they worked with BMW to give us a reliable ultimate driving machine
Great to hear you’re loving your manual Supra! Massive congrats on your purchase beautiful vehicle love how it drives!
@@MeynMotorGroup thank you! Always happy to see these reviews. Especially when they’re well done. I also got mine at sticker price brand new - adding this now that i finished the whole review
2022 GR Supra Premium owner. I’m about the totality of a vehicle and this one hasn’t disappointed at all.
I'll be getting this Supra MK5 on Late July early August 🎉😊
Massive congrats my friend, when you take delivery please let us know how you like it! I think you will love the driving dynamics
You won't regret it. I have a '22 3.0 Premium. Puts a smile on my face every time I drive it (hell...every time I look at it😁)
@MeynMotorGroup got my Supra on July but totally forgot to post
@@tizodd6 got my Supra on Early July love it
Wow! You are brutally honest!
I think the engine has its own character, but not really in stock form.
Toyota can barely do an oil change on these cars and most BMW dealerships won’t touch them.
This is NOT the car to get if you’re not familiar with repairing, building or modding cars.
Better support in social media and other enthusiasts.
Supra is a simple drivers car. Very basic as a sports car should be!
Glad you appreciate the honesty my friend!
this is the one thing that scares me. i will need to find a private shop. I used to all my own work. but now at 50 years old i cant do alot of things i used too. but o own one so iam in it to win it.
have never driven nor owned a better car. 24 MT 3.0 Premium
The most misunderstood car in history quite possibly. The Toyota purists hate it and the enthusiasts are divided.
Sports cars are for those with disposable incomes. Those with money are not confused, they have their two go to products, Corvette and Porsche.
Porsche sells 10k-11k 911s per years and like 4k 718 models. GM sells over 30k C8 Corvettes per year over the past 3 years.
Even a cheap sports car like a Miata sells well under 10k units per year.
In the 30k-60k sports car range, Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger dominate. Most just want power.
@@MeynMotorGroup That’s not the right take brother. Yes disposable incomes are important and I’m blessed to be in this category owning a 2023 MKV 6MT as my garage queen. My neighbor bought a 2023 Miata and when we drove mine he was blown away at the driving experience and engagement. Is it better than a Porsche even a used Porsche? I will say no, but it’s not meant to be better than a Porsche. It’s a sweet spot. The only thing confusing about this car is the BMW and Toyota collaboration. By saying what you mentioned, it’s like you’re saying MKIV owners didn’t know what they were doing buying them and even till this day because it wasn’t a pure sports car in the Porsche sense. If you want to look at sales figures, the MKV never had a chance following up the most iconic jdm car of the 90’s that was the MKIV and it was never meant to be better. It’s simply meant to bring plenty of smiles per gallon rowing through my gears and rev matching. No car could follow up the MKIV. It’s like going after Van Halen in their prime. Just can’t follow that up. Toyota knew this and didn’t want to lose their ass like they did on the LFA with poor sales and somehow now it’s an iconic car… go figure. Life is too short. Enjoy what you drive. In the famous words of Doug DeMuro, “Historically controversial cars or cars that are misunderstood long term end up being wanted”. It’s like we don’t like it when it’s here then want it when it’s gone. Human nature
Coming form a 2019 Scatpack charger and 2020 mustang GT I think the 2020 b58 in the Supra has way more character than the 2021 .5 trough 2024 in my opinion. My buddy has a 2022 Supra and it’s sound vastly different than my 2020 due to the two port manifold design compared to the six ported in newer models; results in more pops and bangs. In regular mode it just sound like a x5 but in sport mode it has crazy amounts of pop’s especially in 2nd and 4th gear.
So I used to have a 2019 440i with the B58 and that also did not sound too inspiring but that could be because it was a non M model at the time.
Regarding the Supra tho, you might be right they may have nerfed this over the years
@ned1182 My 2024 does the same. I typically keep Sport mode off while cruising on the highway (better gas mileage), and hit the Sport button in the city.
I like the way the the B58 sounds, yea it's different than the V8s you compare it to...but I wouldn't say it doesn't have character. It has its own turbo engine sound. V8s sound cool, hi revving V10 and V12 that's where it's at.
I had one for a year- it was consuming 1 quart of oil every 700-1,000 miles. That aside, the ride quality was understandably stiff as a shortwheelbase car but it got annoying after the initial ownership novelty wore off. I'm 6'2 and fit in it fine, but long trips would get tiresome. The blindspots at the quarterpanels are exceptionally bad- it's like driving with a hoodie on. Fortunately the rear end is fairly short so you're not pulling a lot of ass behind you in that blindspot. I picked up a '22 LC500 dynamic 6 months ago and am very happy with that instead.
Exactly the novelty wears off quick with stuff like this. So hard to convey this to people they think if they buy a car like this they will never get tired of it. Cars with a soul like your new LC you can hang onto a lot longer and not get bored of it as easily. Because it doesn’t make sense on paper, people think we’re just making this up since most have no seat time in this stuff
Seems like you got unlucky and got one of the new engines with oil consumption issues. It is quite rare, but it is a problem that the 2021+ engines have, and normally the dealer should deal with it.
Welcome to the retirement club.😏 Really, though, the LC500 is similar to the Jag F-Type in that both are quiet and comfortable cruisers. If I had one to compliment Mt Supra and MX5, I'd get the LC500h, which gets superior mileage compared to the LC500. Here in CA, premium fuel is near $5.50/gallon.
The B58 has no character?? That sound is the way Toyota tuned it to sound and how it’s piped into the cabin! That does not have anything to do with the character of the engine my friend. It’s your choice of words. Which is not terrible, but to say an engine like that BMW B58 or the S58 don’t have character is an understatement (under estimate it’s real world potential in sound and character), so..
However. You are one of the best auto journalists out there! And your words are not taken lightly bro. Keep up the great work soldier. 😉
So you think this has more character and soul than a 5.0l V8? I don’t think any mainstream turbo engine does my friend not sure why that’s difficult to see especially when I inserted exhaust clips in the vid…
@@MeynMotorGroupjust say you like v8s more then six cylinders
How is it any fair to compare the sound of an I6 turbo to NA V8’s? That’s like comparing apples to oranges. You should’ve compared it to other 6 cylinder engines. But I do agree that most performance V8’s do have more character than the B58; however, this motor still sounds pretty good (especially when paired with a full Akrapovic exhaust).
Btw, I don’t think BMW honors warranty thru aftermarket Dinan parts anymore (although I’m not 100% sure).
I think the more important question is, why are these billion dollar companies charging us $60k for something that sounds like a dyson when those apples and oranges you mentioned can be had for $20k less...
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Umm what?… All those cars you compared it to (LC500, CT5BW, Mustang GT) are all AT LEAST $20k more, NOT $20k less.
Also, I think you would’ve liked this car much more if you had driven the 6spd manual version instead of the auto 8spd…
@@CarsOverPeople LC aside how is it fair that you’re just going to completely disregard the $40k LT1 Camaro and the 5.0l Mustang…
And how can I forget the remaining challengers that can be had for dirt cheap which you conveniently left out.
It’s always fair for people to make things up and slander me but nothing is fair when I bring up a perfectly good point 😅😂
My original point remains, this B58 lacks soul, a freaking Genesis G70 twin turbo V6 sounds better than this if you want to compare your apples. AMG does a good job with their turbos as well, but a good sounding factory turbo is far and few between.
We’re car enthusiasts this shouldn’t be difficult to get… so many people are in love with classic cars, why? For their character which MOST new cars lack.
Auto versions of most cars allow you to get the pops and bangs out of the exhaust a little bit easier, most manuals suck nowadays just rubbery and ambiguous hopefully the one in the Supra is good but most are not sadly.
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Bruh, I agreed with you that the B58 engine is a bit soulless (although I haven’t driven or been in one yet so I could be wrong about my own opinion).
But even price differences apart, you should not be comparing a 6 cylinder to an 8 cylinder… As far as 6 cylinder engines go, the only one I can think of that is better than the B58 is Porsche’s flat 6 engines. Modern AMG engines are too complicated (aka unreliable) & expensive to maintain/fix, but BMW’s B58 has been proven to be pretty dang reliable & relatively cheap to own.
Every other reviewerer has been praising the Supra’s manual so I’m sure it’s good. Toyota didn’t just take it from bmw & slap it on, they actually changed a lot of things on the manual tranny to make it solid.
@@CarsOverPeople my apologies I should have specified I’m not just directing this towards you but in general I get flooded with messages from people who absolutely don’t listen or read my content and are quick to slander and take away from the message
(which is produced to solely help you the consumer, there is no profit in me making content like this. I’m better off just being dishonest and say every new car is great)
I love the people too much to do that but typically my reward for it is just spit on my face from the very same people I try to help or they simply make up new arguments that have nothing to do with the original point. Which is fine, I’m used to it.
Yea if the mainstream says the manual is good, I’m sure it is. Thanks again for stopping by my friend. God Bless.
Man... I've been looking for a Supra to replace the LC. I know that sounds crazy. Every time one shows up it's a pre-order
Nah I understand Supra is def a lot cheaper, apparently is holding value well, and drives amazing while retaining pretty exotic looks. Just wish there were more discounts on these
@@MeynMotorGroupIt's all about supply and demand. C8 Corvettes are now going for thousands under msrp. They will never be as reliable nor rare as the GR Supra. My 45th Anniv Supra was $1500 over msrp, last November.
@@MeynMotorGroup I've switched everything to Continental too, DSW06+... I want to try the extremecontact 02 next
It's a sharp looking car, and TBH I don't think it sounds that bad, compared to others, the only nit pick that people could bring up is you're being unfair comparing a turbo 6 to NAV8's if you're going to compare then use NA6's, it's a lot of car for the money but like you say tricky to look after, which can be a major draw back of collab's between manufacturers.
It's ok I just feel they could do better with this engine, freaking Genesis with their G70 and variable exhaust had a better tone than this of course it's all subjective but most turbo turds don't do sound well AMG is one of the few exceptions and some exotic stuff.
It might be unfair to bring up V8s but when those V8s undercut this car by $10k-$20k...I think it's more unfair that a Billion Dollar company is giving us a sports car with a dyson under the hood 😂
@@MeynMotorGroup Yeah that G70 did sound pretty sweet TBF and yeah 10-20K isn't chump change!
@@Excalabur50 they did a great job with that G70 and yea here in the States (while they are still on sale) those V8 muscle cars are just unreal value if Supra had some discounts I would def be more into it cuz I love driving it
Will you ever do a in depth review of a C7 corvette ? i know you did a review of sorts with a c7 grand sport years ago, but i was hoping of a review in this style of video format ( impressions, suggestions for that price , etc etc) , great work btw ! :)
Honestly my friend, probably not as it is a used car and can't get one as press cars anymore. Drove a C7 on 3 different occasions and it's a hyper capable car but not very exciting sadly. I personally prefer driving a Camaro to the C7 and C8 (of course the vettes are probably more capable on a track or whatever) but I just like how communicative the Camaro feels. C6 Corvette was my favorite to drive, very exciting car. Supra and C6 are pretty similar minus the engine.
NO THANK YOU, Toyota. I prefer my timing chains in the front of the engine, NOT the back!
Beautiful little car, love it in yellow too.
Yellow is a great color for this car, I also like that orange on the 45th anniversary model
I do like the adaptive cruise in my 45th Anniv with auto transm. I also agree that handling and power is very acceptable. Regarding music, I simply plug in a usb drive with my large playlist in it. It might be nice to have Android Auto for my Samsung S23 Ultra (a step above any iphone), but I connect to bluetooth for phone calls.
First, you compare V8 to V6...is there a V6 that you can compare this engine too...maybe a exhaust can help? Good Vid though. I heard the slow shifting of the manual can help with that character.
Genesis G70 sounds better than this as does any AMG doesn't even have to be a 6 cylinder.
getting the 2025 supra later this year when it comes out and I cant wait.
Let us know how you like it when you take delivery! You will have a blast on back roads
@@MeynMotorGroup yessir and with all the mods I plan on buying from Dinan it will be a blast!
@@BigBladeFanyou will love it! Own 2021 3.0 3 and half years still smiles on my face and always exiting to drive ! Be careful in winter summer tires don’t do well! Maybe get a 2nd car beater or something for winter!
Still loving my 2.0 Supra as a daily. Stunning design for a good price.
That is awesome my friend! Yea I enjoyed the 4 cylinder as well it suites this car well plus rides better due to smaller wheels and less weight
@@MeynMotorGroup Exactly. It really feels agile and grounded. 5 months later and I still can't stop driving it. Underrated car that gets unnecessary hate online---but in real life it steals the show on the road.
internet is full of people that love to spread their ignorance.
Cargo tote $60, lawn chair $100, Dashcam $570 (installation is not included lmao). I can't help but laugh at these prices. I know most people will throw it in the financing and not think about it but wow.
Yup those accessories are crazy
And off topic bro but just got another transmission flush last Saturday morning but from the Lexus Dealership instead of the Toyota dealership lol I’ve learned you have to tell Lexus you use your car for towing to do so otherwise they won’t do it and the flush compared to the transmission change that’s a whole another story for me will tell you that part 2 of the story when you respond back off my comment. 🤝😎
Oh wow I didn't know about that but they just believed you when you said you tow or did you have a tow hitch on your LS? How's it driving now?
@@MeynMotorGroup I couldn’t wait for our response and me telling you my couple experiences with a transmission fluid change yes bro your correct on your first statement I lied and said I tow my vehicle lol that’s the only way they will do the transmission fluid change but before they said they don’t do it so I had to find a Toyota dealership that did for my first transmission fluid flush and now this is my second and yes bro I’ve really noticed a difference much smoother especially with execration noticed how smooth that was with normal driving when I left the Lexus Dealership I do all my fluid changes with but the tricky question I have for you what’s your option on a Transmission fluid change or a Transmission fluid flush because for me being a car nerd lol and goggling and reading up on it I saw the flush can ruin or be more harsh on a transmission? 🙏🏾🙏🏾.🤝🫡
@@theodoreyoung8777 Gotcha that makes sense and I’m glad you have a smoother driving experience now but I’m also not sure bro when it comes to transmission fluid changes. Some brands say never do it, others say change it every 60k miles or even every 30k miles.
Answers are all over the place but we do have two facts, you’ve already done the fluid change and noticed an improvement in the drive…I guess it’s a good move then!
@@theodoreyoung8777 I found the official LS 430 Manual, it does say to change transmission fluid at 60k miles bro
www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-3rd-gen-2001-2006/944772-2004-lexus-ls430-service.html
@@MeynMotorGroup Thanx my bro I just used common sense to me that no fluid is lifetime it’s eventually going to get used and dirty thanx for that link my bro going to look at it now 🤝😎👍🏾👍🏾🫡.
Anyone really excited by the Supra? Two buddies of mine sold theirs and kept their GR86. Both own a small fleet, but I thought it was telling that they never drove the Supra.
GR86 is impressive for the money drives just like a Porsche but engine is a snoozer doesn’t sound good at all but the GR86 is quick enough.
Supra is the same thing drives amazing but engine doesn’t sound great although much quicker than an 86. Honestly a Supra is better since it’s the same concept enhanced with more speed but def costs way more
@@MeynMotorGroup big fan on my GRC and Toyota in general (even the bmw ones). If I could have 2 door I would have considered 86 for sure. Supra isn’t that interesting to me but I’m sure it would be a blast.
@@joncaseyclary Nice! GRC is sweet I'm sure that's a ton of fun. 86 is incredible value for money the dynamics of that car is top tier I had a chance to drive it on the tail of the dragon
@@joncaseyclaryI have a 2023 A91 6MT and it’s very fun, rowdy and engaging. I can’t speak for the automatic, but my only complaint aside from the stupid BMW comments, is the space inside is tight sports car like which is a given I guess. Honestly the comments and stupid Toyota purists make me want to jump in a Porsche 997.2 just to avoid the negative energy. People need to get over it.
@@MeynMotorGroup awe yeah! I live near there. Haven’t driven the GRC yet but I have a 240hp miata I’ve taken there a lot. It’s an amazing drive.
B58 has no character? What? You must be out of your mind! B58 in Supra is tuned different than bmw version it has characters!
Your right it does have character... in the Ineos Grenadier. Idk how BMW and Toyota tuned this engine to sound this bad but in the Grenadier, the B58 actually has some character and throatieness. I believe I inserted a sound clip in this review, you heard the B58 sound like a Dyson right?
@@MeynMotorGroup no I heard one in person doesn’t sound like Dyson you need to check your hearing maybe something wrong with your ears? Stock exhaust sounds good to me not sure what you hear in your review but definitely has character. Heard bmw b58 in bmw doesn’t sound all that compare to Supra has more pops and crackles .
@@bman1668 so you didn’t watch thanks for confirming
i must initiate the hooning
I was shoping for a mk5 supra but they be having 2 or 3 owner at 5000mil is it because people can't afford it or is it unreliable? Can someone explain?
I didn’t want to mention it in this vid but most of these hyped up cars you will get bored of them after 3-6 months hard to explain but you would have to buy one to understand and get past the honeymoon phase. For some this phase lasts longer than others. That’s why I keep mentioning cars that have a soul you don’t get tired of them as easily. Btw used is a waste of time only buy new and figure out how to get a deal.
Buying the Supra with Blind Spot Checking with solve the blind spots on the car.
I'm curious...how did you go about getting an LC? I just took a quick look and was amazed at the ask prices.
By taking advantage of the leasing strategies I talk about in almost every video I make. Literally drove the car for 2 years practically for free.
But when I mention it I just get dislikes and people unsubscribing so I guess it's not that important.
@@MeynMotorGroup So, I watched your video: "2020 Lexus LC 500 Review....Masterpiece of Mobility." Do you by chance recall which video you did the financial discussion? Are you measuring the cost by "you paid X in payments, then sold, and very little depreciation, and that's how you arrive at the "it was practically free" conclusion? You're enthusiasm for the LC 500 came though!
@@MeynMotorGroup I watched some of the other videos. I thought you had purchased rather than leased.
Wish it was more Toyota than BMW. Mainly from a reliability standpoint. Completely agree with the your thoughts on the sound. So typical, sounds just like my neighbors BMW's. And yup, good luck getting this serviced at Toyota outside basic stuff like oil and filter. Carcarenut worked on this car and hated it.
I don't understand how anyone can love driving this car. Maybe they fixed the suspension for 2024 but i felt the suspension tuning of this car completely fell apart when pushed hard. Something is absolutely off with the handling. The fake engine noise is also terrible. Same for the constant burbles in the sport mode on decel. This is basically a gateway drug for the m2.
The suspension had some significant upgrades since 2023 models. I've rented the C8 Corvette (very large and heavy), the McLaren 570S Spider (a rocket ship that is amazing), a Porsche 911 4S, Jag F-Type, BMW i8, etc and I am still very impressed whenever I drive my 2024 45th Anniv Supra. It is much more exotic-looking than a BMW M2, 3, or 4.
@@davepaturno4290 Hmm...This is good information, I'll look into getting some time in a 2024+ MY car then.
@hamsterbrigade yes, the 2023+ models received great improvements to steering feedback, suspension, ediff and traction control tuning. I had a 2020, moved on to something else and then came back to a 2023 supra and the changes were very noticeable. I spent a lot of time between those 2 model years.
The orange color was not a good choice for something limited to 900 units
It's not the only car you can get it in white
Does the Supra still have the wind buffering issue at speed with the windows down? If you happened to notice. I've always loved all gens of the Supra, current generation too. However, I love riding with my windows down and that would kind of be a deal breaker if I was in this market.
Almost every car is going to have that issue the fix for that is to crack open the passenger window as well just slightly so wind no longer is buffeting in the cabin
i have one an 6mt mkv and can confrim that a wind buffet piece can completely eliminate the wind buffet. if you want i can send the link for the one i got
@@rd4809 sure my friend try posting the link sometimes RUclips blocks it but try and post thank you for sharing!
@@rd4809 also, how are you liking the manual?
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Thank you, but I am not in the market yet. I require more seating capacity at this stage in my life. That's really good to know though. Hope you're enjoying that awesome car.
I haven't followed these whatsoever. Looking forward to the review and then I'm gonna go look at what these are selling for 2nd and 3rd hand. . .
Already got confirmation from a viewer, these things are still trading for practically what a new one costs
@@MeynMotorGroup yeah I went on cars and bids and peeped their sales. All of em still cost more than I'd care to spend still lmao. I forgot these only came out in 2020. For some reason I was thinking there'd be some 2018 models for good money by now.
@@devongee1776 this is why I don’t do used car vids anymore just buy new at discount
@@MeynMotorGroup seems about right. I appreciated the OLD OLD car reviews but I admit I wasn't watching any of the ones from like the 2015-2019 era. I already know about all those cuz those were the years I was shopping. I finally settled with my second Kia, the EV6. Might get me an early 1990s Mercedes that my buddy's trying to get rid of too. You know anything about a 1991 300 SE?
@@devongee1776 yea I remember you got the EV6 how are you liking it? Def a cool ride. And no never tried that particular benz
You don't get a manual bc it weighs less. 😅 You get it for more control. 😐
Control is a weird way to put it that’s a byproduct of a manual manuals are supposed to be fun and a connected experience…
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Thank you! Cheers!
You mention all the engines with character....this is what is so bizarre about the Supra: Toyota didn't design, build, and engineer it. They started with a preexisting platform and "turned" it. Kinda debatable for a car company as large and diverse as Toyota. I'd have some respect if it was a Toyota (tuning doesn't count in my book). A number of people have told me through the comments that the Supra wouldn't have been any good unless they took the approach they took. This is an incredible take in my opinion. Nissan has my respect: They didn't go to another manufacturer for the parts, they used their parts. Damn good looker the Z is.
They don’t try because they know this stuff doesn’t sell…not many have the disposable income for a $60k toy
@@MeynMotorGroup Seems like a helluva lot have it for an overpriced pickup..... Maybe it's a matter of marketing? Not much emphasis on cars...and extreme emphasis on "off road" for SUV/CUV/Pickups.
@@ksorsomeplace it’s not even marketing sales speak for themselves. If people are going to put their financial future in jeopardy and finance $40k-$60k cars it’s going to be something they need and not want which is an SUV to haul stuff and people. Neither of those things are being achieved with a sports car.
I guess you never heard of Gazoo Racing. They are the main reason why the GR Corolla and Yaris are so sought after. The GR Supra is superior to the Nissan Z, not only because of the B58 engine, but also the better chassis tuning.
@@davepaturno4290 Yeah, I've heard of it. My point is Toyota isn't designing it....thus how much of a Toyota is it really? If the yardstick is "tuned by Toyota," then I guess it is a Toyota even though Toyota didn't design and engineer the parts. Comments apply to the Supra only. I've not read much about the Corolla/Yaris.
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Had to rule this car out when shopping- no Android Auto
Ew. That definitely is a deal breaker.
Yup no android auto whatsoever not even in 2024 crazy
You can still connect your Android phone to Bluetooth to receive calls. I plug in my Playlist USB to listen to most of the time, but Sirius XM comes in handy.
I wonder why Toyota decided to say we suck & are putting a Toyota shell on a bmw? If you want a bmw, go get an m3. This car makes no sense to me.
The Supra is suspension-tuned by Gazoo Racing, meaning it beats the M2 around Virginia International Raceway. That's the ultimate difference, but the Supra also has better steering feedback and a better ride.
Time to let it go.
Looks too much of a boy racer for me.
That's part of the fun of having one. I'm in my 60s and love my 2024 GR Supra, even after driving a McLaren 570, Corvette C8, Jag F-sport, and Porsche 911 4S.
Turo rentals are great for trying out many vehicles.
It's really not "boy racer". It doesn't have a silly spoiler or that kind of styling at all. Civic R is boy racer. Even the styling of the Vette is far more boy racer, with all those ridiculous angles and points sticking out all over the place. The Supra is one of the most beautiful cars there is.
That's one ugly bmw
It might not be a bmw but it sure is ugly
It's a BMW. I'm a Toyota Lexus fanboy and I wouldn't touch this car. Sorry just my opinion. This is not going to have Toyota dependability and ease of working on. If it made sense for Toyota to engineer this whole car they would've but obviously they had to farm out a lot of it.
I’m with you. It’s a BMW Supra!
You opinion is baseless unless you drive a GR Supra. The B58 engine is legendary, as is the ZF-8 transmission (auto). They have been very reliable, especially after Toyota had its hand in that engine. In fact, according to Consumer Report's latest ranking of auto companies, BMW is now at #1. The rankings are based upon:
Performance/handling
Comfort
Reliability
Quality
Safety
Fuel economy
Infotainment controls
@@davepaturno4290 Good luck in 8- 10 years.
Right on man. I was psyched when I heard Toyota was bringing back to life the Supra. Then we realized it was a damn overcomplicated BMW. Bummer
@@CyFi6if someone’s spending 60k plus on a car their not the type of person to keep a car that long anyways
I drove this and I can tell this car is video game level fast. That said, the high speed steering feel is not properly calibrated, Cadillac and Alfa romeo give better steering feel in my opinion. Also very claustrophobic at least for me. I would get the CT4 V blackwing over this as the manual in that thing has lo lift shift and also the LF4 engine has forged internals and even the twinturbo's are from BORGWARNER EFR series with titanium aluminide wheels which are 50% lighter than regular turbo wheels so spools up much faster, and also there is no substitute for GM magnaride 4.0 as it reads road every 1ms and responds in 5 ms so you never have to compromise between comfort and epic handling. Let me know what you think @MeynMotorGroup.
Cadillacs are def amazing GM really knows how to calibrate a car when they want to. Their V products are masterpieces
Good luck with Cadillac's notoriously bad reliability. If you buy one, get rid of it within 5 years or so. ....the same for a Corvette.
Thanx bro just was looking at some old Lexus LS430 videos and comments lol and enjoying them very much no being bias though 😂🤝😎👍🏾👍🏾🫡
Man that car is such a classic, do you still have yours? I still remember that engine like it was yesterday
@@MeynMotorGroup Yup bro and never getting rid of it 🙏🏾🙏🏾. Checkout my comments about that car 😎🫡