@Sam The Sham rousimar brought em back in recent years.. especially some of the entries (e.g., off a single).. but Danaher system is what the video is referring to.. and they are right
Sam The Sham "most fighters are too much of pussies" lmao. Keep training, and keep your mouth shut about real fighters. You sound like a white belt. Ignorance at it's finest.
@@curlylarrymoe Catch wrestler/Coach Billy Riley trained Karl Gotch, Karl Gotch trained Fujiwara, Fujiwara trained Funaki, Funaki trained Ken Shamrock.
@@curlylarrymoe When 2 Catch wrestlers had a match that wasn't worked it was called a shoot. When the wrestlers were in the carnivals years ago taking on any challengers they got called Shooters (Shootfighters) or Hookers.
Absolutely, Kevin. I think that a systematic game plan could be the thing to take you to the championship level. To me that's what separates the greats and the good. Stripping your game down to highest percentage shots. Forcing the opponent into choosing what you have laid out for them. Breaking down their best weapons. And the good news is you already had the wrestling and good striking. You just have to break down your opponents more. Take Jon Jones. I feel like he breaks people down on a near molecular level, dude. So much visualization and just the confidence to execute.
@@trevormichaud8701 I get it bro , you are just saying things , but if you knew something about what are you talking you would know that biggest cheaters in sports acording to WADA for a studio that was Made near Russia Olympics showed that Italy is first followed by France and US , then Belgium and Australia.
@@trevormichaud8701 yes, go on. Then I can make a list of the Americans. I didn't mean in my first post that Brazilians don't do it, they do it just like Americans and Russians. People created a culture in MMA that PEDs are an exclusive Brazilian thing.
How do you have a conversation about leg locks in MMA and not mention Ryan Hall? I get that he's not the most popular fighter because he has a very unique style that doesn't lend itself to big knockouts, but his leg locks and 50/50 guard are unparalleled. If you want to learn about leg locks in MMA, go talk to him.
Leg locks hypothetically "went away" because of training etiquette. But now they are re-emerging in popularity because of acceptance by more and more gyms. Gotta know what you are doing, though, when you apply them and when you are in one and not getting out, or someone is getting hurt.
But nobody gave a sht when Marco Ruas was using heel hooks. Only reason why Heel hooks didn’t catch on fast was because some guys peddled the narrative that it was a “cheap move”/“dishonorable”or some unwritten rule garbage bs. Like it was at the level of kicking the opponent’s nuts.
I've trained at a few disciplines and am very handy but to be completely honest the boys and girls that have done bjj and others can twist you up in bits, I've spared a few and much lighter and been like a pretzel lol
Using locks is a bitch move unless youre in danger and the only way to stop the opponent is to choke them but if you're a ufc fighter and you have to use a locc to beat somebody youre weak
Human's have such short term memory. Every two seconds its "ooh pretty flower". Fighters are gonna "rediscover" leg locks, and then "rediscover" why leg locks went out of fashion. It really only works if your opponent isn't looking for the same, otherwise you're kinda screwed because your feet are dangling out there for him to submit right back. Kinda pointless to get your ACL torn while you're tearing someone else's.
Positions like outside senkaku and the saddle are used during entries to hide your legs from your opponent while exposing theirs to inside heel hooks and ankle locks. You're not just each dangling your feet out there. Even in 50/50 there are defenses. I m assuming you don't know much about the leg lock game.
I'd say it's Gary Tonon. Ryan Hall before doing MMA was a great back taker and great at triangles off his back, but now he's starting to implement leg locks in his game compared to a guy like Tonon whose done it for the longest.
Joe "Everybody is on steroids, except for my good friend Jon Jones. That guy is a fucking wild man. Taking dick pills and snorting coke. What if being a wild man is what makes him such a good fighter? Maybe the coke he snorted was cut with creatine, cut with steroids? That's entirely possible. In china, they make creatine in huge vats where they make steroids. That's a real problem over there. We found that out with Onnit. That's O-N-N-I-T" Rogan.
Brad Brad im wondering the same thing why he is getting thumbs up, it's an VERY old move, mma fighters stopped doing them cause you are at risk of getting hit but grapplers are getting better at executing them
Angel Garcia not if you really know what you’re doing. Watch some of Gordon Ryan and Garry Tonons matches, some incredible stuff you can do. But I somewhat agree, there is less control typically as compared to back attacks and other things
Using MMA and “fight” in the same sentence cheapens the sport. These are incredibly well trained athletes engaged in a MATCH. Any idiot can pick a “fight”. Give these guys the respect they deserve for the discipline, courage, and dignity they bring to the last combat sport.
Everyone has always thot leglovks were going tk be huge. Simce the start but for every successful one there one where the guy gets knocked out going for it.
Brandon Harrison Leg locks are a high risk high reward type of submission. If it’s a high level grappler wrapped around your leg & you just try to stand there & punch, your knee is gonna get jacked
@@fatherofuniverseandgalaxyi1062 Yeah Lesnar wrestled and ground and pounded him lol? I think you missed the point. Again, Joe was commenting on Johnson's WRESTLING SKILLS not his SUBMISSION SKILLS. They are different.
Rutten was laying down heel hooks in a pink speedo years ago!
It wasn't as complex
El guapo
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 evolution wtf bass and Ken leg locker 20 Years ago
so in modern day you wouldnt think theyd adjust to the complexity?
Dani Chicago Legend
I can already see Eddie Bravo reading the title of this video and getting excited
@Sam The Sham rousimar brought em back in recent years.. especially some of the entries (e.g., off a single).. but Danaher system is what the video is referring to.. and they are right
A video like this can make Eddie has mutiple orgasim
Sam The Sham "most fighters are too much of pussies" lmao. Keep training, and keep your mouth shut about real fighters. You sound like a white belt. Ignorance at it's finest.
Bas Rutten wants to know why this should be a new big thing XD
Won't lie, leglocks scare tf out of me haha it's just that a lot of the time they don't hurt much until it's too late
totally agree. great in the arsenol. good to know how to defend against. risky to train it much, dangerous to fight against.
I always tap early in training to leg locks. I don’t try to muscle them out bc sometimes it’s too late
Hell yea I tap as soon as I feel anything it's not worth it especially in training it's not like an arm bar or a choke
@@stillnessinmovement Do you think it's worth training even if you don't plan in competing??? With the risk factor?
Both my knees are fucked from sprinting injuries when young stay away from my knees pls.
Ken Shamrock was doing leg locks in UFC 1.
Catch wrestling
@@jamesptah9993 Shootfighting.
shamrocks leg locks are elementary compared to modern game.. but yes, he was
@@curlylarrymoe Catch wrestler/Coach Billy Riley trained Karl Gotch, Karl Gotch trained Fujiwara, Fujiwara trained Funaki, Funaki trained Ken Shamrock.
@@curlylarrymoe When 2 Catch wrestlers had a match that wasn't worked it was called a shoot. When the wrestlers were in the carnivals years ago taking on any challengers they got called Shooters (Shootfighters) or Hookers.
“I see holes in the leg locks”- Kevin Lee
S p 😂😂
I love how Joe easily will say Jones is juicing but didn't even attempt to have Gordon's name come out of his mouth haha
Leg locks been in mma since 1990s
Absolutely, Kevin. I think that a systematic game plan could be the thing to take you to the championship level. To me that's what separates the greats and the good. Stripping your game down to highest percentage shots. Forcing the opponent into choosing what you have laid out for them. Breaking down their best weapons. And the good news is you already had the wrestling and good striking. You just have to break down your opponents more. Take Jon Jones. I feel like he breaks people down on a near molecular level, dude. So much visualization and just the confidence to execute.
Sounds like a perfect fit with Firas Zahabi.
Kevin Lee is in trouble if he's trying to go to IBJJF worlds to learn leg lock defense haha
Lmao. Most trash tournament for leg locks.
@@rickyd454 ye they ban them toe holds are only for purple or brown belts now its stupid
" I don't think it helps you" says KEVIN LEE. 🖐️🎤
Ken shamrock laying down nasty knee bars on Bas Rutten
Black belt on point
Kevin Lee: "It helps you train much longer..." seconds later, " It probably helps you" lol
Rousimar Palhares and Mazakazu Imanari are probably pumped watching this.
Oleg Taktarov says how dare you Joe Rogan.
Hope mtp gets back on track i like the dude
@@rebelruthless3781 well i mean he takes after your dad so yeaaa
Watch out for the Ric Flair figure four. WoOoOOoooo!
Still the best move in wrestling - brings out the best of their acting ability. It's a pisser haha.
Everyone forgetting the first submission in ufc 1 was a leg lock
Ken Shamrock
maybe that's the hard counter to these athletic wrestlers dominating now
Would be really awesome to see someone in LW or WW become elite at leg locks and fight Khabib
Kevin "I'm trying to implement leg locks for my prelim fights" Lee
MXO Beats 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That wasn’t funny but nice try. Live that miserable life buddy
@@settt4760 I'd say the random guy on the internet telling someone to live a miserable life probably has a miserable life. I hope you get better mate.
Kevin is on shit too
Him nervously sipping his drink
Everyone is on something
100%
I was looking for this comment. when he said, "you're right, you're right.....then thought oops and said , it probably helps you....Kermit sip
"They're from Brazil..." TJ Dillashaw, Chad Mendes, Jon Jones, Brock Lesnar, Chael Sonnen...... They're all Brazilians.
AmErIcAnS dOn'T ChEaT 🙄.
I get it bro you're brazilian. But don't act like brazilians don't cheat more than anybody lmfao
Anderson Silva, Cyborg, Palhares, Machida, Belfort, Thiago Alves, Hermes Franca, Tibau, Bigfoot Silva, Vinicius Queiroz.... Shall I continue?
@@trevormichaud8701 I get it bro , you are just saying things , but if you knew something about what are you talking you would know that biggest cheaters in sports acording to WADA for a studio that was Made near Russia Olympics showed that Italy is first followed by France and US , then Belgium and Australia.
@@trevormichaud8701 yes, go on. Then I can make a list of the Americans. I didn't mean in my first post that Brazilians don't do it, they do it just like Americans and Russians. People created a culture in MMA that PEDs are an exclusive Brazilian thing.
I couldn't care less bro i'm canadian lol. We have some ppl who get caught here and there but not too many. No hate tho I love brazil
weight wont matter, rumbles best shot is to pull a shaub or faber and avoid the sub
Schaub shutdown ftw
The defense will catch up eventually.
everything has a counter.. it is another element that if one guy has more time than the other, bye bye knee
Yep I agree, this is why I feel in time defense will eventually improve overtime for everyone in MMA because it is constantly evolving.
How do you have a conversation about leg locks in MMA and not mention Ryan Hall? I get that he's not the most popular fighter because he has a very unique style that doesn't lend itself to big knockouts, but his leg locks and 50/50 guard are unparalleled. If you want to learn about leg locks in MMA, go talk to him.
he's good but kinda was exposed against saul
Next big thing? Leg locks were the big thing in early ufc but escpecially early pride......
comparing ken shamrock leg locks to modern leg locks is a joke.. modern leg game is lightyears evolved
@@yaywoot123 If you could read you would see I didnt compare them I am saying they have already been a big thing in obtaining titles in mma
Was thinking more Bas Rutten and Sakuraba anyway tbh
@@Matt-nk2tp same idea my dude
Leg locks hypothetically "went away" because of training etiquette. But now they are re-emerging in popularity because of acceptance by more and more gyms. Gotta know what you are doing, though, when you apply them and when you are in one and not getting out, or someone is getting hurt.
Rafiel Torre was just ahead of the curve lol
But nobody gave a sht when Marco Ruas was using heel hooks. Only reason why Heel hooks didn’t catch on fast was because some guys peddled the narrative that it was a “cheap move”/“dishonorable”or some unwritten rule garbage bs. Like it was at the level of kicking the opponent’s nuts.
The next level?? Shamrock did a heel hook on Pat Smith in UFC #2 !!!!
Maximus Areilius the heel hook is a good move but you got to also realize that the guillotine and arm bar can both use that same hook under the arm
I like Kevin Lee I want him to be successful.
Kevin lee is the type of guy to braid his hair just for Joe Rogan
I've trained at a few disciplines and am very handy but to be completely honest the boys and girls that have done bjj and others can twist you up in bits, I've spared a few and much lighter and been like a pretzel lol
Erik Paulson....
Imanari says hello
LegLock - Shakewell
Lee looks like a skinny Mike Tyson lol
@5:09 , someone help me out. Who is Feras Ahabe? I’m probably spelling it wrong. But it’s the 2nd time I’ve heard Joe talk about him.
Firas Zahabi...owner of Tristan Gym in Montreal. GSP’s Head Coach & Trainer.
surfmonster2323 Firas Zahabi is an mma grappling coach
Tim Bradford thanks
OGMudbone thanks
Dude I'm no badass, but if I was in mma I would knee reap to heel hook every fucking time somebody stood up in my guard.
Lee’s highlight reel is him gettin the shit beat out of him.
What brand hoodie is lee wearing?
💬💬💬Why doesn't anyone try the sharpshooter?
Banned to dangerous.
IBJJF says no mas
ruclips.net/video/j2TjUT94I_I/видео.html If it is the same move as the boston crab then it has already been done
Shakewell has entered the chat
The only person on my wrestling team that uses leg locks is a soccer player
Using locks is a bitch move unless youre in danger and the only way to stop the opponent is to choke them but if you're a ufc fighter and you have to use a locc to beat somebody youre weak
Not knowing how to actually fight is a bitch move
Love your content Joe.
Agreed on Garry Tonan becoming a world champ, he is gonna be storming the cage
Human's have such short term memory. Every two seconds its "ooh pretty flower". Fighters are gonna "rediscover" leg locks, and then "rediscover" why leg locks went out of fashion. It really only works if your opponent isn't looking for the same, otherwise you're kinda screwed because your feet are dangling out there for him to submit right back. Kinda pointless to get your ACL torn while you're tearing someone else's.
Positions like outside senkaku and the saddle are used during entries to hide your legs from your opponent while exposing theirs to inside heel hooks and ankle locks. You're not just each dangling your feet out there. Even in 50/50 there are defenses. I m assuming you don't know much about the leg lock game.
RUclips algorithm pushing this up after Mike Johnson got caught in one
Palharas was dope just never developed his hands
he was an asshole i wish his name would just dissapear into history
Nobody wants to lose to a leg lock
Ryan Hall is the leg lock king
Ed Davidson agreed
garry tonon is the best leg locker in mma by a football field
I'd say it's Gary Tonon. Ryan Hall before doing MMA was a great back taker and great at triangles off his back, but now he's starting to implement leg locks in his game compared to a guy like Tonon whose done it for the longest.
Man this cat looks good after his loss. I like that. Inspiration
@Mike Dexter yea it's real that's why probably lol
Mike Dexter you’re watching a video about men rubbing their dicks on each other’s legs. That’s pretty gay.
MMA is too geared towards grappling. Kicks from a bottom position should be legal.
Kevin Lee's Hoodie 'Mnyama' means animal in swahili
Worst Rickson impersonation
Joe "Everybody is on steroids, except for my good friend Jon Jones. That guy is a fucking wild man. Taking dick pills and snorting coke. What if being a wild man is what makes him such a good fighter? Maybe the coke he snorted was cut with creatine, cut with steroids? That's entirely possible. In china, they make creatine in huge vats where they make steroids. That's a real problem over there. We found that out with Onnit. That's O-N-N-I-T" Rogan.
Rumble stands no chance
But this is coming from the same guy that said Kevin Lee is the next big thing in MMA
Pls have Craig Jones on
Chris Benoit.. rip.. had that Mean ass submission, to bad it’s rarely possible
Paul Harris says wtf are you talking about lee
They look alike a bit
Rumble is back???
You better master that that move otherwise you get slept
Just catching on? I was doing Leg Locks back in 2006
Baron Karza 05-06 back in high school inspired by shamrock, not anymore cause I stopped fighting about 6 years ago
Brad Brad im wondering the same thing why he is getting thumbs up, it's an VERY old move, mma fighters stopped doing them cause you are at risk of getting hit but grapplers are getting better at executing them
yes... So finally Rogan accepts that Jones had the juice advantage over DC
I'll tell you who is not the next big thing. Kevin Lee
Is ufc still popular
Has had record breaking ppvs recently, and just signed an ESPN deal, might be coming into an all time high.
Damn and 2 years later oliviera torn both kevins acl's with heelhooks
Leg locks are the easiest to escape...
Angel Garcia not if you really know what you’re doing. Watch some of Gordon Ryan and Garry Tonons matches, some incredible stuff you can do. But I somewhat agree, there is less control typically as compared to back attacks and other things
you have no idea !!
@@AngelGarcia-di6ux "i never grappled before" - Angel Garcia
joe needs to tell him his done right?
Joe Rogan is the man!
7uyuu
Using MMA and “fight” in the same sentence cheapens the sport. These are incredibly well trained athletes engaged in a MATCH. Any idiot can pick a “fight”. Give these guys the respect they deserve for the discipline, courage, and dignity they bring to the last combat sport.
Fuck off mate. Ufc - ultimate *Fighting* championship
Jake Royce beat kimo pulling his hair out amongst other things aswell
Jake this made me laugh so much... Dudes getting punched in the dick 😂
The next big thing? Lmao Shamrock and Bas were hitting leg locks all the time in the early ufc days.
Anybody else pumped for the Wizard right?
Kevin "donahear" lee 4:20
Kevin “donahere” lee
What leg locks was he gonna see at worlds?
Leg lock been trending for a couple years, they late as FUCK!
Why is Kevin Lee even here he's just a big mouth challenging people getting beat up
Everyone has always thot leglovks were going tk be huge. Simce the start but for every successful one there one where the guy gets knocked out going for it.
michael gallacher 😂😂😂😂
Wait. Aren’t leglocks an open invitation to getting hammered in the face?
Brandon Harrison Leg locks are a high risk high reward type of submission. If it’s a high level grappler wrapped around your leg & you just try to stand there & punch, your knee is gonna get jacked
It would be best to do it if you’re actually high level at it like Ryan Hall or Gary Tonon
Joe Rogan was like Anthony Johnson is a great wrestler but he get submit 5 time in his career and 2 of tham against non wrestler..
Wrestling and submission skills are entirely different. Did you not see Lesnar vs Mir's first match?
Doctor Gonzo do you see rematch?
@@fatherofuniverseandgalaxyi1062 Yeah Lesnar wrestled and ground and pounded him lol? I think you missed the point. Again, Joe was commenting on Johnson's WRESTLING SKILLS not his SUBMISSION SKILLS. They are different.
@@fatherofuniverseandgalaxyi1062 Lesnar, also a great wrestler, got submitted as well.
Doctor Gonzo dc, khabib , kamaru are wrestler.. thay fought against grapplar why thay never get submit..
if Kevin lee says it, its the opposite
Underground guys underground!
rip rumble
what the fuck does KL know about leg locks lllol he knows about wobbly chicken legs, yeah, he does
Ryan Hall
Frank mir would be happy
Title should be Kevin lee is the next big thing but unfortunately Kevin’s got some holes in his game
It's not "leg locks"...it's New Zealand jiu jitsu.
New..... Sure homie 👌
don't think craig is on roids
Agree. Maybe he is thinking of Gordon Ryan heh.
It's just like the lesbians always say: scissors beats rock
lEg lOCks dOnt WorK iN mMa
Lee is over
Joe "But" Rogan
If this was the early 90's, i might be impressed, But ur 30yrs too late Bro : ) ....
Rumble looses easily, up the aussies
I like winners joe why put fighters on that haven’t won over a year and 1/2