A masterpiece. Probably the best superhero movie ever made if not the best movie ever. Kids might not appreciate it bjt when they grow up they will appreciate it
Im glad you recognized that Harvey had a trick coin, and never intended on harming the joker's lackey. Its actually a really important detail. It shows that Dent always had a dark side that comes out when he feels powerless. He was just so accustomed to hiding and controlling that darkness that he only ever used it as a threat, he never felt the need to go "outside the system" to impose what he thinks is "fair", but when he loses Rachel, he feels that his ideals of justice were somehow wrong or incomplete, which is why he failed. That's what drives him off the deep end. He wants to kill the Joker, but that means crossing the moral line that he set down for himself, and it wouldnt fix anything either. He has survivor's guilt, he is suicidal when he is in the hospital which is why he is refusing treatment. The Joker understands that, so he presents Harvey with a very simplified version of his own perspective so it will resonate with him. He is basically telling Harvey that he can hate himself for failing, or hate the Joker for succeeding, but he should really hate the rest of the world for dumping their responsibilities on him, making him into a martyr to pay for their own weakness. That's why it resonates with Harvey, the Joker actually understands even if he is just using that knowledge to manipulate him. The fact that he gives Harvey the gun & tells him to let chaos & order decide, shows us that he isnt just saying that to be compelling, it is genuinely what he believes & how he views the world. He truly believes himself to be a victim of society who is just getting revenge, enjoying the "fun" that he's been denied. He relates to people who society labels "freaks", which is why he is willing to show this vulnerablity & reveal his motivations only to batman, and to Harvey after his "transformation". He frames this same perspective to Harvey as society denying him real "justice", which in the absence of his ethics & ideals manifests as the "dark" side of the coin that he has always denied or "repressed". Heath Ledger always gets honored for his acting, as he should, but Aaron Eckhart also does a phenomenal job showing both the heights & lows of this (arguably bipolar) character, it is a quick transformation but his great acting really sells it to the audience.
To this day stands as one of the greatest comic book films of all time. Really fascinating that when the hospital was supposed to blow up that Heath Ledger improvised his turning around and still trying to blow it up. RIP to the legend!! Hope you enjoy the 3rd movie!
BEST BATMAN MOVIE EVER MADE! RIP Heath Ledger. He did one hell of a performance for the Joker, which won him an Oscar and his family accepted it in his memory.
So real opinion question- do u think it’s the best movie because Heath died? Or it would b either way? Cause u know sometimes when ppl die their legacy gets bigger than it may have otherwise just curious about ur opinions.
Best Batman movie ever made is a bit much. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is the superior Batman film. Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill are the definitive Batman and Joker. I love The Dark Knight Trilogy but DC Animation is superior.
@@jules3048 Nah. It was just an entertaining movie. Heath topped Nicholson as The Joker (even though he was still great), in my opinion. I know a lot of people would disagree with me, but meh. Even if Heath didn’t die, I think it would still be an overall great film.
What's messed up is that the Joker told Batman the wrong adresses on purpose because he knew he was go for Rachel, not Dent. The Joker knew Batman would because he hurled himself out of a penthouse window to save her and let the Joker get away. And what's also sad is that when Rachel heard Batman saving Dent over the phone, she died believing Bruce had read the letter she left for him, and was so angry he was her for breaking the promise they made, he was choosing to let her die, not really knowing the Joker tricked him.
I have seen this movie dozens of times and that ending gets me every time. The music, Gordon’s monologue, Batman stumbling into the night chased by dogs.
SO MANY little details and stuff in this movie: 1) joker held the hammer cocked the whole time, so Harvey could NEVER had shot him 2) Heath Really took punches from Christain Bale in the face 3) the way joker grabbed rachel by the face was improvised thats why she looked away, sje was looking to the director and crew for help but they kept going 4) the joker news anchor scene was done without most of the crew knowing AND SO MUCH MORE
Heath Ledger kept licking the sides of his mouth because the prosthetics for the scars would keep coming loose, so he did that to keep them in place. It became a great character tick. But the happy coincidence of it is that if you've ever had cuts on the edges of your mouth you really can't help but constantly lick at them.
They were filming this during a comic book convention in Chicago, and during one of the DC panels they told us to be at a certain place in the convention center at a certain time in the morning. We got to the place on the morning and we were given a t shirt, and a note to be at a certain panel later that evening. When we got into that panel, it had Christoper Nolan, Aaron Eckhart, and Gary Oldman, and we were shown the first trailer with footage of Heath as Joker, and Aaron confirmed he was playing Two-Face. Best convention ever. The actor playing the mayor played a character named Batmanuel in the live action Tick series
It doesn't matter how many times I watch it. The Dark Knight elevated both the genre of action movies and comic book movies. *Batman is the best character in comics.* Always was. His origin story, his silhouette (from an artist's perspective), his gallery of Rogues, his supporting characters to include the Gotham City Police department, the bat family, all of it. I am more of a Marvel guy, *but I have said for many years that the best of the (non-cosmic) Marvel universe is essentially riffs on the Batman formula.* This is controversial, but Batman is the Justice League's only _actual_ character. The rest of DC's Pantheon of heroes, is lovable as they are, are archetypes. Not characters. DC's villains tend to be characters that mess with the archetypal heroes. That's why we all love DC's villains. Since Marvel characters are actually characters, you don't even need villains in marvel. A lot of the times, one Marvel hero is another Marvel hero's villain!
The Joker tells a different origin story each time because he tailors the story to who he's addressing, so that he can disturb them and also just to see their reaction. In The Killing Joke graphic novel, Joker says that "if I did have an origin story, I prefer it to be multiple choice"
Joker wanted to prove the people is just good and moral because the world allows them to be. If the world changes people will change. He proved it with Harvey dent
Some fun facts: 1) The actor who plays Rachel never saw Heath in makeup or him acting as Joker on set, so at the charity scene when he crashes the party, she was genuinely in shock and fear. 2) Heath's scar makeup kept on falling off, so his tongue lick was to keep them on but it worked so well they didn't edit them out. 3) The old man who says "we will not be intimidated by thugs" during the charity scene was an active US Senator at the time that asked to be in the film because he was such a fan of Batman. 4) The hospital blow up scene was actually real, they used real explosives on a real building. Because of this, they only had one shot to shoot the scene. When Joker was walking away and the explosions randomly stopped, they really malfunctioned. Joker hitting the remote and confused was real but because that was what the Joker would have done in real life, plus they only had one chance at that scene, they kept it in.
21:17 this part was completely improvised by heath ledger because that was her first time seeing him in full makeup so that entire scene was all true fear from her
this has always and always will be my favorite batman movie and i’m 26 years old 😂 always awesome watching this one. i was watching all your x men reactions and saw this got uploaded today which was super cool!
Fun fact, the scene where joker interrupts Bruce Wayne's party and confronted Rachel the Rachel part was not scripted. You can see the actress look at the director a little worried on what's going on.
In that same scene, the old guy who he says reminds him of his father is democratc senator who is a huge batman fan and has done a number of cameos in various batman movies.
Yeah, just like Bruce Lee with Enter the Dragon. Shame they never got to see the finished product and audience reaction to the films that would ultimately be their legacy.
Its my opinion that the Joker custom-designs his origin story to terrify the person he's talking to. 1.)His origin was about a nightmarish father when talking to mobster Gambol, b/c, statistically, Gambol probably came from a fatherless broken home which helped direct him to a life of crime and in his heart of hearts Gambol would have liked to have a father. Moral of Joker's 1st story to the gangster: "fear your dreams., son" 2.)His origin about a woman robbed of her beauty which destroys her marriage was for Rachel, a woman beautiful enough to engage a good and important man. If she loses her beauty will her life be destroyed, too? If so, her beauty is her cage and time is her jailer. Moral of Joker's 2nd story to the engaged woman: "fear your dreams, pretty lady."
Playing the Joker may have been an emotional catharsis for Heath Ledger..he was going through a split with his wife and separation from his daughter Matilda... RIP Heath Ledger... Awarded Best Actor posthumously... 🌿🌿🌿
Just my theory: If either of the people on the boat triggered the explosion, it would have blown up their own boat. The Joker lies constantly; he lied about the location of Rachel and Harvey with the oil drums, he lied about his scars, I am sure he was lying about what the remotes would do.
No, this time it's not a lie. He genuinely wanted those people to kill each other, to go down to his level. Whoever come out of that "social experiment" alive, would've been people who have murder another to save themselves. He fought for Gotham's soul, not just killing people.
@@SatrioWibisono-o3m Maybe, but he also said he was an agent of chaos, which could imply a situation where you agonize over choices which in the end don’t make a difference and any control you think you have is an illusion, which is a way of sullying Gotham’s soul, because there can be no moral choices in such a framework. (Kind of like voting, but that’s another argument) But even if you were right, because he is known to be unreliable, you couldn’t trust him, which also makes the choice meaningless, which is still chaos. For all they knew, it could be a 💣 on a timer, and the “trigger” was an off switch. And even that, like we saw at the hospital when his trigger initially malfunctioned, could be unreliable and not work, meaning the Joker wouldn’t even be guaranteed to know if it worked. True chaos, since even he couldn’t know that his own control/controller would work.
@@nutz0148 That's actually a myth. It wasn't improvised. There was always supposed to be a delay between the explosions. The pause was planned by Nolan as a means to do the scene practically and keep Ledger safe.
7:55 He doesn't want to take more damage but be faster, he wants to be faster so that he can avoid taking more damage. That's why he wanted to drop the weight of the heavier suit. The tradeoff for being faster and more agile meant that he wasn't as protected because of the spacing between the armor. The other larger, heaver suit was all enclosed. Interesting, though, in real life, his newer suit was actually heavier than his old one.
Morgan freeman character did not resign. When he was finished he did as batman told him he typed his name inti the machine and hit enter which triggered the machine to shut down and destroy the machine so that way he would be willing to stay at Wayne enterprises.
This movie is the definition of CINEMATIC MASTERPIECE! It's so damn good! I saw it in theaters and that fake Batman hitting the window LOUD AF! Fun fact: the hospital was supposed to blow up all in one shot but the pyro malfunctioned and Ledger reacted in character. Nolan thought it fit the Joker's fractured psyche and kept it in the movie. RIP Heath Ledger, you greatly deserved the Oacar your truly iconic performance in this movie won.
The hospital explosion thing is a myth. Long ago debunked by cast and crew. They specifically planned and rehearsed the delay in explosions. The scene happened as intended.
@@Omne118 Then people need to stop spreading lies. Everything I've read about it said it was true. The cast and crew shouldn't have debunked it, it's a much better explanation than it being intentional.
Gambol (Michael Jai White, Spawn himself) actually wasn't supposed to die. He was going to come back seeking revenge on the Joker, That's why you never see his body. When Heath Ledger died, it made sense to have people assume he was killed.
The funny thing for me that I remember as I was watching it was how kinda of mad😆😆😆 i got with how Joker kept so much ahead of the police😆😆. How Joker was having the police play right into his hands😆
holy crap, your analyses were incisive and clever. Some of your thoughts on chaos, hope, symbolism, and sacrifice i had never thought of before. Well played, sir.
heath ledger's joker had a personal epiphany: social order will not keep you safe and happy. something broke him. but his misery wants company. so he's become obsessed with teaching the same lesson to everyone in gotham, by every method possible, including lies, murder and terrorism. and the only way to teach a person that the rules and principles that keeps them civil are utterly pointless is to find that proverbial "one rule" that they won't break and trap them in an impossible predicament to force them to break it. sadly, harvey dent became the joker's master's thesis.
Interesting Fact: the man that plays Gambol in Michael Jai White, despite his role in this movie, he has multiple black belts in several martial arts. He is an amazing fighter.
His tic of licking his lips, was and is an accident. His lip prosthetic was coming loose. So he would lick his lip to keep it on. Turned it into a performance
I still wonder which detonator went to which boat. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were to their own boats. That’s what’s fun about good character building, though. They didn’t need to answer that question, and it adds even more to the Joker’s enigmatic image.
The moment at the end when Joker started to monologue before he lost makes me wonder if he really tried to let Batman use that opportunity to try and even the playing field as he really enjoys messing with Bats.
I changed the Joker's line "if you're good at something never do it for free" to when my gf would wonder Adam you're a pharmacist and you get to work from home in your pajamas. How!?? I'd say "Carolyn if you're good at something you make it look easy" 😉
Heath Ledger was a method actor, he really got into the character even when off set. To prep himself for the role he secluded himself in a motel room for several weeks and went deep into the psychology of the Joker character. His lip smacking was because the prosthetics for his face or the face paint, don't remember which, irritated his skin. But he kept at it because it was a trademark feature to his Joker. This Joker really is an agent to chaos, he just wanted to see the world burn. Heath was perfect for this role, I thought no one could top Jack Nicholson's version, but Heath did it.
You should look up the users The Vile Eye and Enigma True Crime. They do psychology and body language of characters and they did a good analyze of Ledger's Joker.
My personal theory is the Joker used to be an elite black ops agent for the US government. He got caught and tortured, hence the scars, but the US government disowned him and left him for dead. That's why he has all that training, talent and connections and why he really wants to overthrow government. That's also why he has no past, no fingerprints, no record. He was an agent of order, now he's an agent of chaos. That's just my thoughts though.
Ledger was unbelievable in this role. He ad libbed so many parts of his portrayal of the Joker. He came up with the video recordings himself and also the pause with the hospital was not planned. The explosion actually delayed and he stayed in character and the slapping the detonator was not written in. He was a method actor, so you can imagine how troubling staying in that mindset must have been. He truly owned that role.
The one thing that disappointed me in this movie is we are not going to see the ultimate ending of The Joker because of Heath Ledger's passing. He died before the finished film and he was supposed to be in the 3rd movie too.
I think with the Joker; its easy to overthink what his motivations are and its essentially what Alfred is trying to convey to Bruce. He does crime because he thinks its fun and that's it, he puts Batman through all kinds of twisted tribulations because he thinks its fun, and that's it. To my mind - its what makes the Joker such a scary indvidual. There is no motive, no points being made, no reason - it just is
As a huge Batman fan living in what's supposed to be Gotham City, I remember walking out of the theater thinking this was the best Batman ever. I agree w other comments that this and Batman '89, which I also saw in theaters as a tiny kid are the best ones. Batman animated movies are also top tier, so if you guys are into that, they're worth the watch. Thanks for the upload, you guys are so entertaining and I always love to hear your southern accents!
@@echelon2k8 Yes, I was at home planning to go to work for an afternoon shift that day. My mother was in Tower 2 for the first bombing in ‘93. She retired in ‘98 and was not there for the second bombing in ‘01. I used to know Tower 2 from the ground floor to the 27th floor where my mom worked like the back of my hand. RIP to all who did not survive.
The Dark Knight, The Godfather 2, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, The Empire Strikes Back, Terminator 2, Winter Soldier, X2, Spiderman 2, Aliens. I might add Dune Part 2, and Across the Spider verse after the third ones get released
The second Godfather is the best in that trilogy, imo. This is one of the best movies ever made but the third one is really worth it too. This is the second best trilogy of all time, behind LotR. Everything from Nolan is worth your time, especially Interstellar and Inception. He is just simply the goat among directors.
❤ added to one of my favorite reactions of all time. I missed this movie in theaters when it first came out. Boy when it hit dvd, I was on it. Never put it down. RIP Heath.
You should watch the 1966 "Batman" movie. And brace yourself for major culture shock to discover the image that the public had of Batman back then (when I was a little kid).
y'all should read Patton Oswalt's theory on this Joker's backstory. Basically talks about how the Joker could have been a military interrogator before the persona.
I have watched this more than 30 times and everytime I watch it, I always finish the credits so that I can listen to the music. 🤣 It always gives me goosebumps.
30:23 They only have one chance to do this practical stunt in real street. Not in a studio of cgi. 40:38 There was an actually practical explosion and there's one explosive didn't go off and Ladger just play along when the delayed explosion happens like it was planned.
@@-zerxvil-5208 The following has been said by Christopher Nolan, the director, himself about this scene: "Chris [Corbould] and his guys, working very closely with the demolition team, they were able to come up with a scenario in which Heath [Ledger] could actually be walking out of the building. Because what Chris worked out is if we put in a little beat where the first set of explosions stops, as if something has gone wrong, and the Joker just takes a second to look around, surprised, like the audience is surprised, then the major demolition comes in, and he jumps straight in the school bus. In that way, he was able to come up with a practical scenario in which we could actually take a principal actor, walk him out of a building that's about to be destroyed, and literally drop a building to the ground." and... "We rehearsed endlessly with Heath that morning. We walked him out, going through exactly what he was going to do. Chris Corbould calling the explosions where they would take place. We rehearsed it, I think, about 12 times, I think, we literally walked him out, videotaped the rehearsal, and looked at it from different camera angles. Heath was such a perfectionist to be so precise in what he was doing, which was essential because this was obviously a one-take thing, and the angle I knew that we really needed, despite all of the other cameras we set, we really needed that close shot on him walking out to work perfectly. He did it very, very precisely. I don't know how he resisted looking back, you know, all of the explosions and lightweight material that the special effects guys were blowing behind him. I think he winded up with bits in his hair at the end of it, so close he was to everything that was going off."
R. I. P Heath Ledger. Best joker there ever was. Just putting it out there. Another great Christopher Nolan movie you guys should check out is *The Prestige*
Typically, Robin has been a hard character to bring to the screen. He has one of those costumes that doesn't translate well to RL (or an even slightly grounded Batman movie). I mean, classic Robin basically wears a red polo tucked into a belted green speedo, an outfit he finishes with green elbow gloves, green elf shoes, and a short yellow cape. If you're a filmmaker, try to make THAT make sense in a movie where Batman spends 90% of his time stealthing through shadows and leaping into/out of the darkness. Every scene would have to start with Batman saying, "Robin, you wait in the car..." or else every fight scene would start with a criminal saying, "Hey! Who's that kid in the bright spandex trying to sneak into the room? And, yo, there's Batman right next to him! Shoot them!"
Joker definitely has some beefs: the mob, does not like it when he is called freak, society, clear anger seen when his social experiment didn't go as planned. Its not about money, its about sending a message. Crime should be done for the joy of crime. Batman adds a worthy foil as mob fools are easy to undercut (they are motivated by money) and the police are boxed in by rules (schemers/planners he can take control from). One theory I think has a lot of merit is Joker is former military and became jaded because of it. It explains his know-how of all sorts of weapons and tactical ability.
Already seen it on patreon but that was a lil while ago, kinda drunk on my 2 days off from work too, so let’s give it a rewatch. Watched this in theaters at 8 years old w the fam, already loved batman before that but this movie pretty much solidified it. Batman is goated, I’d put batman w prep time up against just ab anyone
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A masterpiece. Probably the best superhero movie ever made if not the best movie ever. Kids might not appreciate it bjt when they grow up they will appreciate it
Im glad you recognized that Harvey had a trick coin, and never intended on harming the joker's lackey. Its actually a really important detail. It shows that Dent always had a dark side that comes out when he feels powerless. He was just so accustomed to hiding and controlling that darkness that he only ever used it as a threat, he never felt the need to go "outside the system" to impose what he thinks is "fair", but when he loses Rachel, he feels that his ideals of justice were somehow wrong or incomplete, which is why he failed. That's what drives him off the deep end. He wants to kill the Joker, but that means crossing the moral line that he set down for himself, and it wouldnt fix anything either. He has survivor's guilt, he is suicidal when he is in the hospital which is why he is refusing treatment. The Joker understands that, so he presents Harvey with a very simplified version of his own perspective so it will resonate with him. He is basically telling Harvey that he can hate himself for failing, or hate the Joker for succeeding, but he should really hate the rest of the world for dumping their responsibilities on him, making him into a martyr to pay for their own weakness. That's why it resonates with Harvey, the Joker actually understands even if he is just using that knowledge to manipulate him. The fact that he gives Harvey the gun & tells him to let chaos & order decide, shows us that he isnt just saying that to be compelling, it is genuinely what he believes & how he views the world. He truly believes himself to be a victim of society who is just getting revenge, enjoying the "fun" that he's been denied. He relates to people who society labels "freaks", which is why he is willing to show this vulnerablity & reveal his motivations only to batman, and to Harvey after his "transformation". He frames this same perspective to Harvey as society denying him real "justice", which in the absence of his ethics & ideals manifests as the "dark" side of the coin that he has always denied or "repressed". Heath Ledger always gets honored for his acting, as he should, but Aaron Eckhart also does a phenomenal job showing both the heights & lows of this (arguably bipolar) character, it is a quick transformation but his great acting really sells it to the audience.
To this day stands as one of the greatest comic book films of all time. Really fascinating that when the hospital was supposed to blow up that Heath Ledger improvised his turning around and still trying to blow it up. RIP to the legend!! Hope you enjoy the 3rd movie!
One of? It’s THE best comic book film and arguably the greatest film ever made. In every aspect it is perfect.
I'd go two steps further and say it's the best movie ever made.
Naw..that belongs to Spider-Man 2
@@lucifermorningstar4500 It appears the devil does indeed have excellent taste in cinema
@@KanyeWestIsTheGOAT- Very little argument from me
Lucius didn't resign btw. When he typed his name in the machine self destructed. So he's still there
Exactly! He said he wouldn’t be at Wayne enterprises as long as that tech was and Bruce knew that and designed it to fry itself when they were done
BEST BATMAN MOVIE EVER MADE!
RIP Heath Ledger. He did one hell of a performance for the Joker, which won him an Oscar and his family accepted it in his memory.
Even though I think the Oscar should have been for Best Actor instead of Best Supporting Actor, I fully agree!
So real opinion question- do u think it’s the best movie because Heath died? Or it would b either way? Cause u know sometimes when ppl die their legacy gets bigger than it may have otherwise just curious about ur opinions.
Best Batman movie ever made is a bit much. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is the superior Batman film. Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill are the definitive Batman and Joker. I love The Dark Knight Trilogy but DC Animation is superior.
@@jules3048
Nah. It was just an entertaining movie. Heath topped Nicholson as The Joker (even though he was still great), in my opinion. I know a lot of people would disagree with me, but meh. Even if Heath didn’t die, I think it would still be an overall great film.
@@AlastorsShadowDemon thank u for ur opinion.
This movie is revolutionary, and Heath Ledger’s Joker is nothing short of iconic.
What's messed up is that the Joker told Batman the wrong adresses on purpose because he knew he was go for Rachel, not Dent. The Joker knew Batman would because he hurled himself out of a penthouse window to save her and let the Joker get away. And what's also sad is that when Rachel heard Batman saving Dent over the phone, she died believing Bruce had read the letter she left for him, and was so angry he was her for breaking the promise they made, he was choosing to let her die, not really knowing the Joker tricked him.
I have seen this movie dozens of times and that ending gets me every time. The music, Gordon’s monologue, Batman stumbling into the night chased by dogs.
SO MANY little details and stuff in this movie:
1) joker held the hammer cocked the whole time, so Harvey could NEVER had shot him 2) Heath Really took punches from Christain Bale in the face 3) the way joker grabbed rachel by the face was improvised thats why she looked away, sje was looking to the director and crew for help but they kept going 4) the joker news anchor scene was done without most of the crew knowing AND SO MUCH MORE
The 'hospital' was actually blown up. It was an old candy factory here in Chicago that was due for demolition.
RIP Heath...Great loss. Best and scariest Joker. Thanx so much, have a great wkend, Peace
Heath Ledger kept licking the sides of his mouth because the prosthetics for the scars would keep coming loose, so he did that to keep them in place. It became a great character tick. But the happy coincidence of it is that if you've ever had cuts on the edges of your mouth you really can't help but constantly lick at them.
They really flipped that 18-wheeler. Nolan does practical affects whenever possible. Many movies have copied that truck flip scene after this
So happy you're reacting to this masterpiece, in my opinion this rendition of The JOKER is flawless ❤
It's more than flawless, it's a master class in acting.
The last 5 min the dark knight is cinematic perfection. Possibly the greatest end to a movie ever
"He must've had Taco Bell". - Mr. OCTOBER
I DIED 😂💀
They were filming this during a comic book convention in Chicago, and during one of the DC panels they told us to be at a certain place in the convention center at a certain time in the morning. We got to the place on the morning and we were given a t shirt, and a note to be at a certain panel later that evening. When we got into that panel, it had Christoper Nolan, Aaron Eckhart, and Gary Oldman, and we were shown the first trailer with footage of Heath as Joker, and Aaron confirmed he was playing Two-Face. Best convention ever. The actor playing the mayor played a character named Batmanuel in the live action Tick series
It doesn't matter how many times I watch it. The Dark Knight elevated both the genre of action movies and comic book movies. *Batman is the best character in comics.* Always was. His origin story, his silhouette (from an artist's perspective), his gallery of Rogues, his supporting characters to include the Gotham City Police department, the bat family, all of it. I am more of a Marvel guy, *but I have said for many years that the best of the (non-cosmic) Marvel universe is essentially riffs on the Batman formula.* This is controversial, but Batman is the Justice League's only _actual_ character. The rest of DC's Pantheon of heroes, is lovable as they are, are archetypes. Not characters. DC's villains tend to be characters that mess with the archetypal heroes. That's why we all love DC's villains. Since Marvel characters are actually characters, you don't even need villains in marvel. A lot of the times, one Marvel hero is another Marvel hero's villain!
The Joker tells a different origin story each time because he tailors the story to who he's addressing, so that he can disturb them and also just to see their reaction. In The Killing Joke graphic novel, Joker says that "if I did have an origin story, I prefer it to be multiple choice"
Joker wanted to prove the people is just good and moral because the world allows them to be. If the world changes people will change. He proved it with Harvey dent
Some fun facts:
1) The actor who plays Rachel never saw Heath in makeup or him acting as Joker on set, so at the charity scene when he crashes the party, she was genuinely in shock and fear.
2) Heath's scar makeup kept on falling off, so his tongue lick was to keep them on but it worked so well they didn't edit them out.
3) The old man who says "we will not be intimidated by thugs" during the charity scene was an active US Senator at the time that asked to be in the film because he was such a fan of Batman.
4) The hospital blow up scene was actually real, they used real explosives on a real building. Because of this, they only had one shot to shoot the scene. When Joker was walking away and the explosions randomly stopped, they really malfunctioned. Joker hitting the remote and confused was real but because that was what the Joker would have done in real life, plus they only had one chance at that scene, they kept it in.
21:17 this part was completely improvised by heath ledger because that was her first time seeing him in full makeup so that entire scene was all true fear from her
Mr O’s calling card would be leaving a hat at the crime scene lol 😂
this has always and always will be my favorite batman movie and i’m 26 years old 😂 always awesome watching this one. i was watching all your x men reactions and saw this got uploaded today which was super cool!
Fun fact, the scene where joker interrupts Bruce Wayne's party and confronted Rachel the Rachel part was not scripted. You can see the actress look at the director a little worried on what's going on.
In that same scene, the old guy who he says reminds him of his father is democratc senator who is a huge batman fan and has done a number of cameos in various batman movies.
Yup... The first time the cast saw Joker with his full make-up.
This movie is just too 👌😮💨
are you really lacking that much attention that you have to write this shit on every fucking reaction?
@@zumedusa she was like: "Hold on, is that the same guy who banged my brother?"
Heath ledger was just incredible, it's so sad he never got to see his own movie. I forgot he was even acting he was just joker. Rest in peace 🕊️
Yeah, just like Bruce Lee with Enter the Dragon. Shame they never got to see the finished product and audience reaction to the films that would ultimately be their legacy.
Rest in peace Heath Ledger! Your time among us was short but you forever live in our hearts! Legend.
Its my opinion that the Joker custom-designs his origin story to terrify the person he's talking to.
1.)His origin was about a nightmarish father when talking to mobster Gambol, b/c, statistically, Gambol probably came from a fatherless broken home which helped direct him to a life of crime and in his heart of hearts Gambol would have liked to have a father. Moral of Joker's 1st story to the gangster: "fear your dreams., son"
2.)His origin about a woman robbed of her beauty which destroys her marriage was for Rachel, a woman beautiful enough to engage a good and important man. If she loses her beauty will her life be destroyed, too? If so, her beauty is her cage and time is her jailer. Moral of Joker's 2nd story to the engaged woman: "fear your dreams, pretty lady."
Fun fact: 38:06 That Lamborghini model is called "Murcielago" or Bat in English. So in a way he is driving a bat-mobile lol
I've seen this movie so many times, and every time I see the end sequence, I get goose bumps
Playing the Joker may have been an emotional catharsis for Heath Ledger..he was going through a split with his wife and separation from his daughter Matilda...
RIP Heath Ledger...
Awarded Best Actor posthumously...
🌿🌿🌿
"If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice." - The Joker
Fine line between crazy and genius Sometimes they cross over
Just my theory:
If either of the people on the boat triggered the explosion, it would have blown up their own boat.
The Joker lies constantly; he lied about the location of Rachel and Harvey with the oil drums, he lied about his scars, I am sure he was lying about what the remotes would do.
That’s a solid theory that I’m surprised has not been discussed enough.
No, this time it's not a lie. He genuinely wanted those people to kill each other, to go down to his level. Whoever come out of that "social experiment" alive, would've been people who have murder another to save themselves. He fought for Gotham's soul, not just killing people.
@@SatrioWibisono-o3m Maybe, but he also said he was an agent of chaos, which could imply a situation where you agonize over choices which in the end don’t make a difference and any control you think you have is an illusion, which is a way of sullying Gotham’s soul, because there can be no moral choices in such a framework.
(Kind of like voting, but that’s another argument)
But even if you were right, because he is known to be unreliable, you couldn’t trust him, which also makes the choice meaningless, which is still chaos. For all they knew, it could be a 💣 on a timer, and the “trigger” was an off switch. And even that, like we saw at the hospital when his trigger initially malfunctioned, could be unreliable and not work, meaning the Joker wouldn’t even be guaranteed to know if it worked. True chaos, since even he couldn’t know that his own control/controller would work.
Nolan is known to be as practical as possible so a assume the explosions aren’t cgi.
The hospital scene wasn't CGI, they had 1 take and Heath improvised smashing the button when the explosions didn't go off on time, pure brilliance.
@@nutz0148 That's actually a myth. It wasn't improvised. There was always supposed to be a delay between the explosions. The pause was planned by Nolan as a means to do the scene practically and keep Ledger safe.
7:55 He doesn't want to take more damage but be faster, he wants to be faster so that he can avoid taking more damage. That's why he wanted to drop the weight of the heavier suit. The tradeoff for being faster and more agile meant that he wasn't as protected because of the spacing between the armor. The other larger, heaver suit was all enclosed. Interesting, though, in real life, his newer suit was actually heavier than his old one.
Morgan freeman character did not resign. When he was finished he did as batman told him he typed his name inti the machine and hit enter which triggered the machine to shut down and destroy the machine so that way he would be willing to stay at Wayne enterprises.
This movie is the definition of CINEMATIC MASTERPIECE! It's so damn good! I saw it in theaters and that fake Batman hitting the window LOUD AF! Fun fact: the hospital was supposed to blow up all in one shot but the pyro malfunctioned and Ledger reacted in character. Nolan thought it fit the Joker's fractured psyche and kept it in the movie. RIP Heath Ledger, you greatly deserved the Oacar your truly iconic performance in this movie won.
The hospital explosion thing is a myth. Long ago debunked by cast and crew. They specifically planned and rehearsed the delay in explosions. The scene happened as intended.
@@Omne118 Then people need to stop spreading lies. Everything I've read about it said it was true. The cast and crew shouldn't have debunked it, it's a much better explanation than it being intentional.
@@passionsquietrage it’s not true so they should absolutely be debunking it. You might *like* the story better but that’s irrelevant
@@Omne118 Why is making the truth known better then letting a myth pass for the truth? Besides, the myth made Ledger's iconic performance even better.
Fun fact!
Gambol (Michael Jai White, Spawn himself) actually wasn't supposed to die. He was going to come back seeking revenge on the Joker, That's why you never see his body. When Heath Ledger died, it made sense to have people assume he was killed.
You guys left out very intriguing dialouge exchanges
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. The theatre experience was freaking epic!!
The funny thing for me that I remember as I was watching it was how kinda of mad😆😆😆 i got with how Joker kept so much ahead of the police😆😆. How Joker was having the police play right into his hands😆
Best superhero movie ever made arguably, even for the casual and also great reaction as ever guys thanks cant wait for you to watch the third one!
This is my fav super hero trilogy hands down. Each movie is flawless. And each is more epic than the previous.
Looking forward to Dark Knight Rises
holy crap, your analyses were incisive and clever. Some of your thoughts on chaos, hope, symbolism, and sacrifice i had never thought of before. Well played, sir.
The old man at the party who tells the Joker ‘We’re not intimidated by thugs!’ is Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, a very big Batman fan.
heath ledger's joker had a personal epiphany: social order will not keep you safe and happy. something broke him. but his misery wants company. so he's become obsessed with teaching the same lesson to everyone in gotham, by every method possible, including lies, murder and terrorism. and the only way to teach a person that the rules and principles that keeps them civil are utterly pointless is to find that proverbial "one rule" that they won't break and trap them in an impossible predicament to force them to break it. sadly, harvey dent became the joker's master's thesis.
Interesting Fact: the man that plays Gambol in Michael Jai White, despite his role in this movie, he has multiple black belts in several martial arts. He is an amazing fighter.
His tic of licking his lips, was and is an accident. His lip prosthetic was coming loose. So he would lick his lip to keep it on. Turned it into a performance
21:19 "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another. If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
I still wonder which detonator went to which boat. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were to their own boats.
That’s what’s fun about good character building, though. They didn’t need to answer that question, and it adds even more to the Joker’s enigmatic image.
The moment at the end when Joker started to monologue before he lost makes me wonder if he really tried to let Batman use that opportunity to try and even the playing field as he really enjoys messing with Bats.
I changed the Joker's line "if you're good at something never do it for free" to when my gf would wonder Adam you're a pharmacist and you get to work from home in your pajamas. How!?? I'd say "Carolyn if you're good at something you make it look easy" 😉
Single greatest comic book movie of all time. Heath Ledger's Oscar winning performance still brings tears of joy to my eyes. Brilliance.
Heath Ledger was a method actor, he really got into the character even when off set. To prep himself for the role he secluded himself in a motel room for several weeks and went deep into the psychology of the Joker character. His lip smacking was because the prosthetics for his face or the face paint, don't remember which, irritated his skin. But he kept at it because it was a trademark feature to his Joker. This Joker really is an agent to chaos, he just wanted to see the world burn. Heath was perfect for this role, I thought no one could top Jack Nicholson's version, but Heath did it.
You should look up the users The Vile Eye and Enigma True Crime. They do psychology and body language of characters and they did a good analyze of Ledger's Joker.
You both are phenomenal 💙🥋
My personal theory is the Joker used to be an elite black ops agent for the US government. He got caught and tortured, hence the scars, but the US government disowned him and left him for dead. That's why he has all that training, talent and connections and why he really wants to overthrow government. That's also why he has no past, no fingerprints, no record. He was an agent of order, now he's an agent of chaos. That's just my thoughts though.
Great reaction guys!! One of the greatest movies of all time!
Pro tip....the underground chase scene was a 3 mile set! Truck flip was a real truck!
That last bomb at the hospital that scared Joker was real...it didn't go off right away...when it did, it scared Heath Ledger and they kept filming.
Not true. It was always planned to happen exactly this way.
@echelon2k8 oh ok...bad rumor I guess...thanks
Ledger was unbelievable in this role. He ad libbed so many parts of his portrayal of the Joker. He came up with the video recordings himself and also the pause with the hospital was not planned. The explosion actually delayed and he stayed in character and the slapping the detonator was not written in. He was a method actor, so you can imagine how troubling staying in that mindset must have been. He truly owned that role.
The musical score by Hans Zimmer is next level and everytime that score plays at the end when Batman's goes on the run just brings chills man.
The one thing that disappointed me in this movie is we are not going to see the ultimate ending of The Joker because of Heath Ledger's passing. He died before the finished film and he was supposed to be in the 3rd movie too.
You guys gotta check out the sequel the Dark Knight Rises
The Dark Knight is the greatest superhero movie of all time
“Why so serious-UH!”
I think with the Joker; its easy to overthink what his motivations are and its essentially what Alfred is trying to convey to Bruce. He does crime because he thinks its fun and that's it, he puts Batman through all kinds of twisted tribulations because he thinks its fun, and that's it. To my mind - its what makes the Joker such a scary indvidual. There is no motive, no points being made, no reason - it just is
As a huge Batman fan living in what's supposed to be Gotham City, I remember walking out of the theater thinking this was the best Batman ever. I agree w other comments that this and Batman '89, which I also saw in theaters as a tiny kid are the best ones. Batman animated movies are also top tier, so if you guys are into that, they're worth the watch. Thanks for the upload, you guys are so entertaining and I always love to hear your southern accents!
Oh, wow, were you in the city during 9/11?
@@echelon2k8 Yes, I was at home planning to go to work for an afternoon shift that day. My mother was in Tower 2 for the first bombing in ‘93. She retired in ‘98 and was not there for the second bombing in ‘01. I used to know Tower 2 from the ground floor to the 27th floor where my mom worked like the back of my hand. RIP to all who did not survive.
Ya can’t spell laughter without slaughter.
The Dark Knight, The Godfather 2, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, The Empire Strikes Back, Terminator 2, Winter Soldier, X2, Spiderman 2, Aliens.
I might add Dune Part 2, and Across the Spider verse after the third ones get released
“Are you alright? Nah, I just shit on myself.” 😂
I cried too ,grown man with two daughters we went to the movie theater AND I CRIED and I still do everytime because batman it's so inspiring
The second Godfather is the best in that trilogy, imo. This is one of the best movies ever made but the third one is really worth it too. This is the second best trilogy of all time, behind LotR. Everything from Nolan is worth your time, especially Interstellar and Inception. He is just simply the goat among directors.
❤ added to one of my favorite reactions of all time. I missed this movie in theaters when it first came out. Boy when it hit dvd, I was on it. Never put it down. RIP Heath.
Ian Garry’s comment was crazy 😂
You should watch the 1966 "Batman" movie. And brace yourself for major culture shock to discover the image that the public had of Batman back then (when I was a little kid).
Love the Varys protecting the realm comparison! 😅
y'all should read Patton Oswalt's theory on this Joker's backstory. Basically talks about how the Joker could have been a military interrogator before the persona.
You two have such a good dynamic, love it and another great video! Appreciate the work yall are putting in
Thanks to Mrs. & Mr. October! 🦇
Batman can’t kill people, it’s why he didn’t run into him on the bike. Obviously.
I have watched this more than 30 times and everytime I watch it, I always finish the credits so that I can listen to the music. 🤣 It always gives me goosebumps.
"Look at me.....LOOK AT ME!" ♦♣🤡♠♥
30:23 They only have one chance to do this practical stunt in real street. Not in a studio of cgi.
40:38 There was an actually practical explosion and there's one explosive didn't go off and Ladger just play along when the delayed explosion happens like it was planned.
40:38 It's actually a myth that he improvised that. There was always supposed to be a delay for safety reasons for doing the explosion practically.
@@echelon2k8 prove it.
@@-zerxvil-5208 The following has been said by Christopher Nolan, the director, himself about this scene:
"Chris [Corbould] and his guys, working very closely with the demolition team, they were able to come up with a scenario in which Heath [Ledger] could actually be walking out of the building. Because what Chris worked out is if we put in a little beat where the first set of explosions stops, as if something has gone wrong, and the Joker just takes a second to look around, surprised, like the audience is surprised, then the major demolition comes in, and he jumps straight in the school bus.
In that way, he was able to come up with a practical scenario in which we could actually take a principal actor, walk him out of a building that's about to be destroyed, and literally drop a building to the ground."
and...
"We rehearsed endlessly with Heath that morning. We walked him out, going through exactly what he was going to do. Chris Corbould calling the explosions where they would take place. We rehearsed it, I think, about 12 times, I think, we literally walked him out, videotaped the rehearsal, and looked at it from different camera angles.
Heath was such a perfectionist to be so precise in what he was doing, which was essential because this was obviously a one-take thing, and the angle I knew that we really needed, despite all of the other cameras we set, we really needed that close shot on him walking out to work perfectly.
He did it very, very precisely. I don't know how he resisted looking back, you know, all of the explosions and lightweight material that the special effects guys were blowing behind him. I think he winded up with bits in his hair at the end of it, so close he was to everything that was going off."
I got the duck song reference! 🤣 great reaction both.
R. I. P Heath Ledger. Best joker there ever was.
Just putting it out there. Another great Christopher Nolan movie you guys should check out is *The Prestige*
Two-Face is born and dies.
Typically, Robin has been a hard character to bring to the screen. He has one of those costumes that doesn't translate well to RL (or an even slightly grounded Batman movie). I mean, classic Robin basically wears a red polo tucked into a belted green speedo, an outfit he finishes with green elbow gloves, green elf shoes, and a short yellow cape. If you're a filmmaker, try to make THAT make sense in a movie where Batman spends 90% of his time stealthing through shadows and leaping into/out of the darkness. Every scene would have to start with Batman saying, "Robin, you wait in the car..." or else every fight scene would start with a criminal saying, "Hey! Who's that kid in the bright spandex trying to sneak into the room? And, yo, there's Batman right next to him! Shoot them!"
Joker definitely has some beefs: the mob, does not like it when he is called freak, society, clear anger seen when his social experiment didn't go as planned. Its not about money, its about sending a message. Crime should be done for the joy of crime. Batman adds a worthy foil as mob fools are easy to undercut (they are motivated by money) and the police are boxed in by rules (schemers/planners he can take control from). One theory I think has a lot of merit is Joker is former military and became jaded because of it. It explains his know-how of all sorts of weapons and tactical ability.
That Ian Garry comment 😂😂
The Joker has no origin story. He's a mystery.
0:27 😭😭 why were me and my bf just singing this lmaooo
Waddle Waddle 🎵
@@TheOctobersReact bum bum bum got any grapes??🤣
When Lucius typed in his name it destroyed the city wide sonar. So he stays
According to some people the joker has ptsd. And he does seem to know how to use weapons, like a bazooka. In the comics he never had an origin story.
R.I.P to Heath Ledger best joker even to this date ❤
Lmao the guys at the party that got pieced up by Bruce Wayne 😂
Imagine telling someone in arkham that Bruce Wayne is the guy that pieced you up
Already seen it on patreon but that was a lil while ago, kinda drunk on my 2 days off from work too, so let’s give it a rewatch.
Watched this in theaters at 8 years old w the fam, already loved batman before that but this movie pretty much solidified it. Batman is goated, I’d put batman w prep time up against just ab anyone
Yes, they blowed up a real old hospital.