Once he killed Penny, he became Joker and stopped trying to be normal. That is when his confidence came out for real. He became confident when he accepted that he was Joker.
@prico3358yeah.. Make sense!! It's scaringly realistic.. 2 years ago.. I was "mentally not okay" It felt completely different.. Just like this movie.. Mental health is serious thing.. Here in India people don't take it seriously!!!
This movie uses a literary device called "Unreliable narrator". The whole story is being shown from Arthur's point of view but since Arthur hallucinates and has a hard time knowing what's real we as the audience can't be sure either.
Thats the joke he was laughing at at the end. The punchline is that now Thomas Wayne's son is going to grow up traumatized, like Arthur, and without a father who was supposed to be Thomas, like Arthur. It's actually pretty funny that it worked out like that. But I also believe that he could have just made up the whole story in his head, just to arrive at the same conclusion, and then escapes the asylum (for the FIRST TIME) having fully transformed himself into the Joker by the force of his fantasy, as if it all really happened.
I think this works best if you don't eve think of this character as THE Joker. That's something he may become later but right now he's just a guy who's been treated badly by the world.
If the WHOLE thing was in his head, he started telling himself this story when he hit his head really hard in the asylum... Then came to the SAME conclusion and transformed himself into Joker by just the force of his internal fantasy and the narrative he built. Then he kills the nurse and escapes the asylum for the FIRST time, and walks out fully Joker into ANY Gotham you want to put him in to tell your Batman story.
Joaquin Phoenix took home the Oscar for Best Actor in the movie. It was the highest grossing R Rated movie to make $1 billion dollars at the box office. It drew a lot of controversy upon release as it involved someone with severe mental health issues being turned into a hero rather than villain
I feel invisible quite a bit. I've retreated from people because they are awful most of the time. But I still want to connect and care about others. That's why reaction channels like yours help me cope. Sober 10/01/2019. Thank you for being here.
The moral of this story is that if someone is treated poorly by everyone in their life, they will start to identify the people who are indifferent to their suffering as their abusers. And theyre not wrong. We live in a society
The movie definitely wants you to question if what you see is reliable. But that being said, every time Joker is fantasizing or hallucination, the movie tells you. When he imagined hugging the late night guy, they showed us it wasn't real. Dating the girl, they showed us it wasn't real. That is why I think everything else in the movie really happened.
I loved how at the end when he walked up to the camera the lights changed the color of his suit from a reddish color to the Jokers classic purple suit.
18:13 He felt free, spontaneous, without any inhibitions after he K those guys. That is what the dance was representing. He was just feeling the vibes ending those guys.
Joker holds a special place in the list of modern DC movies because the movie is a gamble. The character of the Joker is one of the most iconic comic book villains around and is easily worth over $1,000,000,000 to a movie studio. Instead of making a movie about the origins of The Joker they instead made a sorrowful character study about a man suffering from mental illness living a miserable life. It's a wonderful film and your reaction and commentary at the end of this video were great!
What I took from the ending shot of Bruce standing next to his dead parents was when Arthur tells the psychiatrist that she wouldn’t get the joke. I take that as the joke is, that his enemy was created when the Waynes parents were killed.
I think the ending was real, because by that point he had fully become the Joker and because we know Bruce's parents do die. I think he got captured afterwards but killed again and managed to escape, because thats what the Joker always does. In the comics there's no agreed upon origin for the Joker, it's constantly changing. This is also a standalone story not connected to any of the other Batman movies.
I love your pronunciation of the actor’s name. “Jah-queen”. No mockery intended, that’s a great way to say it. Matter of fact I think I’ll say it that way from now on myself:)
He gets in the fridge because it symbolises the moment all doors are closed for him and he feels he is in a cold dark space, once the fridge door closes the lights go off
I'm a grown-ass man and the ending where he's finally recognized as a symbol and a representative, and when he doesn't have to hide who he really is, always gets me to tear up and cry a little with a big smile on his face. The line in his diary about the worst part of mental illness is having to pretend that you're not resonates with me, because as an immigrant I'm from part of the world that really doesn't recognize mental health as being important. It wasn't until I came to Canada that I realized how much it's neglected, and how much that neglect has negatively affected me and others like me. Psychology has always been an interest in my life because of that, and I'm starting graduate school for counselling psychology this year, and I want to be part of that change. Seeing that ending is like looking in a carnival mirror, where it distorts your reflection and shows you a warped version of yourself, and I saw myself and every other underdog out there reflected in Arthur surrounded by others like him. I absolutely love this movie.
So i believe when he comes thru the curtains that was him reaching his final form. Once he loses his meds 'the joker' starts to bleed thru more. When he is smoking and writing in his journal, he hits the cigs pauses a sec and then continues to write but with his left hand instead of the right one. Check that scene out again its a small detail but i believe it implies that Arthur is right handed and 'the joker' is left handed split personalities. This is a great movie.
This movie really drives home what mental illness and our society's lack of support for it looks like. If he could have gotten the help he actually needed, if people were more empathetic to his situation, none of the bad stuff he did would likely have happened. I'm not saying every mentally ill person can be cured and that none will ever do anything violent... just that it's a reflection of our society that we look down on people who are different, to the point where we basically just discard them and ignore them. This movie tears me up inside because of knowing this sort of thing happens to people every day. We have to raise our kids to be better than stooping as low as bullying someone else. I'm sick of people acting like we're supposed to not have emotions or that everyone needs to "toughen up". If anything, everyone needs to soften their heart a bit and stop being so callous and cruel to each other.
53:55 it’s funny you say that because while this movie was in theaters many of them had extra security and even police inside and out of the building in fear of what people may have done almost like they were expecting followers of the joker
When he says that line that if it was him ending in the street you'd walk right over him, I wonder if he was channeling his brother River. Who OD'd and ended in the street and people literally walked right over him.
Haha when she said "is that real?" I was like "yeah they killed de niro" then it took me like 3 seconds to figure out she ment was it a hallucination 🤣🤣
My cousin has the same or very similar condition to the Joker's, in that whenever he's nervous, upset, scared, or startled, he laughs. And the worse his emotions, the harder and louder he laughs. It's like an uncontrollable scream, except that it doesn't sound like it to anyone else. He used to get picked on a lot in school because of it.
We also don't know how smart Arthur really is or what hidden talents he may have. He's been on 7 different psychotropic medications. Most of them take weeks to really wear off so the Genius Arthur may emerge once he dries out. We've only met drugged-up Arthur.
I was never a super hero movie fan. I saw this because of the hype and man what a surprise. The scary part is this could really happen. There’s nothing supernatural here.
Expert on Cinema: You see Arthur entering the refrigerator symbolises his isolation from the rest of society and his attempt to be cut off from an increasingly immoral and unforgiving world. Mrs October: maybe he has a migraine
I liked all the actors because the different Jokers were all very different things. Batman is mostly the same in every incarnation with some aesthetic changes but the Joker is always presented with a fresh take. And I think all the actors did a spot on job fleshing these different Jokers out if that makes sense. This one imo is the most horrifying one. Maybe because this is the most possible.
"I just hope my death makes more cents than my life." I have that as a tattoo. That's actually a condition that joker had. I've seen people with that condition.
It's an alternate version of the Joker, so nothing can really be taken from this film beyond the movie itself and it's upcoming sequel. Most superhero movies are like that when it comes to being comic accurate. They are focusing primarily on the insanity of the character in this movie and I expect the sequel whereas Nicholson's version focused on his madcap aspects and Ledger's on his brutality. Each did a fantastic job in their own way and when melded together would well represent the Joker overall.
The movie is really up to interpretation. You figured out how he had his dis-associative disorder between being the nervous himself and the confident Joker. The movie is a social commentary (again up to interpretation) of society letting the lower class fall through the cracks. Yes it is believed he killed the TV host and after the riot he was caught and is now in Arkham. Lot of music in this movie as a great support as well. Super excited for Joker 2 with Gaga.
The scene in the public bathroom after he murders his attackers in the subway is one of the most painfully beautiful scenes in all of cinema, at least in my opinion. Metamorphosis in live action with an amazing score
If you're interested, they documented what Joaquin did to prepare for the role. He studied mental patients, researched their habits, went to a mental hospital, etc. One of the things that I missed the first time: he writes differently on the right pages than he does on the left. From what I got the end with him standing on the cop car was another psychotic event. That's how he saw himself - an inspiration to all those less fortunate. But he never escaped the hospital and ended up in the asylum. I simply 'assumed' they skipped some of the other parts. Or.. with Joker 2 perhaps it is all imagined. Many people mentioned that the Joker's true origin story isn't really defined in the comics, which is also why Heath Ledger's Joker always had a different story for his upbringing.
I've seen it many times before but I just realized that the scene in the hospital where Arthur's imagined girlfriend kissed him on the head, Arthur's face was illuminated different from hers. That was my clue that he imagined the scene.
In the comics, there are four different versions of the Joker. Nicholson, Letto, Ledger and Phoenix portrayed all four in the films. Mark Hamill portrayed this version in the animated Batman series. All portrayals have their merits for being unique and believable.
Your first clues shouldve came early (i figured it out LONG before the reveal) First why is this girl always with him at odd hours of the day without her daughter? SO shes just leaving her daughter alone unsupervised everyday to hang out with some guy she just met? Highly unlikely. Then the Thomas Wayne thing. For him to be Batmans brother and considering Thomas Waynes Age, thomas wayne would have to be WAY older than e is/looks to have a son the age of Arthus who looks damn near 50 himself... not to mention the age gap between Arthus and Bruce... The Joker is definitely not like 30+ years older than batman, they look around the same age in every iteration weve seen of batman and joker
You guys nailed it. Most people take the story of the movie as gospel, but it isn't. Arthur is delusional and he is telling the whole story. We don't know what is real or not. Maybe everything is made up, maybe none is made up. We don't know. But there are a lot of clues, at the start of the movie there is a garbage man strike and it's all ever the news, but halfway through the movie they stop mentioning it and it becomes about "eating the rich", but we still see trash everywhere. You guys also got the gun situation correct, I had to watch the movie twice to get most of the stuff you guys got on 1 viewing.
It's more of a mental health movie than anything. It's makes me sick that people would call this a misogynistic or incel movie, just because it's a man dealing with mental health issues. Barbie is praised for its "female empowerment ", while Joker is viewed as "toxic masculinity ."
Wow, I didn't know that people said that about the movie. That's really sad because men's mental health should be advocated more. So many go through it and it's always looked down upon
@@tokki6085 People were saying that Joker is dangerous. But the Barbie movie gets a pass by hating traditional masculinity/patriarchy and being misandry.
@@aaronmartin7086 Yeah that's really sad about society today. I notice men are getting less and less respect. But hold in there just know there are still women like myself who respect men like yourself
It's been a while since I've seen you guys so this is great, plus I've been wanting to watch The Joker movie before the sequel comes out with Harley Quinn 😄👏🏻. Also to answer your question my favorite Joker is the one voiced by Mark Hamill because it's iconic 😈🤣
He laughs uncontrollably whenever he's trying to fit into 'normal' society as it is fucking with him, because his mind is subconsciously laughing at the absurdity of trying to be sane in an insane world. Notice that once he accepts that he's NOT going to try to fit in, his laughing fits stop.
Tod Phillips wanted to depict what happens when people are abused or mistreated for being different then abandoned, he incorporated aspects of mental health and focused on the character and story to ground the film in reality the film is critically acclaimed and has won multiple awards for the cast and creative team.
Randall gave him the gun but when he got fired his boss told him Randall said he was asking him for one. So Randall didn’t want the blame shifted to him that’s why he killed him because he lied and got him in trouble. Randall was a snake the whole time. He went over there not because he cared about Arthur but just to make sure he didn’t tell the cops anything
The best Joker imo, comes from Batman : The Animated Series. He was voiced by MARK HAMILL.... who as you may know, played LUKE SKYWALKER. Check out some clips on RUclips.
The only scenes that were "in his head" were the ones with the girl, as it was shown, the first fantasy being in the audience on Murray's show, everything else was real. Joaquin Phoenix is a fantastic actor, he has been in many movies but not so popular in Hollywood i'd say. Watch him as Napoleon in a recent movie, great movie, there are also a few other movies where he is great. Only Heath Ledger's and Joaquin Phoenix's portrayals of the Joker should be allowed in the conversation of "who's the best Joker"? Nobody else
Not quite sure why you’d think his uncontrollable laughter was fake, when it’s been clearly stated he has mental illness and in seven medications, come on peeps stay with us.😮😂😂😂 Also, after he shoots the three guys and is dancing in the bathroom, you’re seeing the emergence of “The Joker”, he felt free to an extent.
@@NeophyteNovice who the fuck was talking to you Donkey? The comment section is here for comments, so shut your fucking mouth unless spoken to, it ain’t your channel.
The lack of any real connection between the Batman/Joker movies to each other and other DC comic movie is because they all wanted to tell their own versions. For instance the whole Dark Knight series, has no direct connection what so ever with this movie other than the name Joker. Otherwise don't try to connect them as there is none at all. The only constant is Bruce's parents getting killed in an alley. Now that James Gunn is in charge of DCUniverse movies, he is trying to have more movies/projects be connected like the MCU. There will be some movies made of DC characters who will not be part of DCU. That doesn't help the situation though.
Howdy neighbors! This movie was a wonderful deep dive into all the things that can go perfectly wrong for someone to snap. What hits home is that many major cities today in America don't seem too far from this kind of collapse... This was a great movie, outstanding job by Joaquin Phoenix. (pronounced like "Wah-keen", J is silent)
The laughing condition Joker has was modelled off a real life person who suffers from the same condition. Quite a difficult thing to live with I'm sure. - ruclips.net/video/8FT2bp31X1Y/видео.html
The best part of this movie is there’s no guarantee that any of this actually happened. For all we know this could all be a fantasy played out in his head while in a mental institution.
Since it's actually a comic book inspired movie, then the ending definitely happens because why bother making it in the first place since it's supposed to be an origins story.
@@karolswieboda1781 not true. There are plenty of comic stories where the events only happened in the characters head. There’s no real proof that any of this ever happened. Arthur could be inside a padded cell thinking this is reality for all we know.
I don't even think the Joker is a bad person He is who he is and he tried his entire Life not to be who he is But the people pusht and beat him all the time until he broke free If i would be like him i think i would do the same... Not that i'm crazy but i get it
he did an amazing job at this role, but heath ledger will always be the best to me. i don’t blame him for killing those 3 on the subway, they picked on him and bullied him. this is what happens when you pick on people like that, get mad cause he killed those 3 guys, but didn’t say anything about how they beat him up on the subway, and could of killed him. also the joker cared about the poor and wanted to save them, i felt like batman cared about the rich more, am i wrong? have you guys reacted to evil dead 2013 yet? if not, react to it please! it’s one of the best one to me and a lot of others will agree.
The was never intended to be a superhero or Joker movie, when it was originally written, it had none of the DC stuff or characters in it, it was meant to be a film that reflected mental health and how different environment and societal dynamics can sculpt a persons mind to the point they become what they become and to make people try and see it from the perspective of the person with the mental health issues, yes they do really bad things but you’re also made to feel sympathetic and empathetic for the main character and it evolved into being the Joker. It was intended to be a standalone Joker origin story that wasn’t really connected to the DC universe but due to its success a sequel was announced and I suspect that Warner Bros will probably try and find a way to weave it into the DC universe and this incarnation of the Joker may one day be in some kind of else world storyline like what happened in say Spiderman or in The Flash. When it comes to the DC stuff, it’s all over the place, there is very little consistency and crossover, so all the modern DC stuff is not connected to the Nolan Batman stuff and the Nolan Batman and the modern stuff isn’t connected to the OG stuff like Superman and Batman or the Animated stuff or the TV shows etc there are some minor exceptions to the rule but I won’t go into those for spoiler reasons, so when it comes to the DC stuff you kind of have to go into each one not expecting it to tie in to anything you have watched previously, think of them as alternate universes. As a DC fan whose first exposure to Superhero stuff was the 1978 Superman, I am kind of over the constant reboots and having the same old Superman or Batman origin story. That’s the DC’s downfall, the constant reboots and standalone stuff, it’s kind of been cursed from the start and I can understand why the casual viewers get confused and don’t know how to tackle watching the DC stuff and they are doing another reboot, it’s just all over the place and to be honest, I think it’s going to fail, people are over it, I think they are over the whole superhero thing full stop, for many different reasons, Hollywood are milking the cow for every drop of milk they can get out of it, it’s like they are at the bottom of the barrel now and all that is coming out is the dregs
Honestly, we will have to watch joker 2 later on to find the truth. I think he killed Murray but did they lift him up on top or the car and spread the blood on his face... that dude probably gave him the gun tho... shit is blurry tho.
Don’t over think it. Most of the movie happened. The girlfriend was a delusion. The first appearance on Murry was a fantasy. Nearly everything else happened. They made the delusions kinda obvious.
I tjink the part in the comedy club was Arthur not knowing when to laugh. No comedic timing. Coupled with the fact that he laughs without control. He laughs at parts that arent funny and missing the actual punchline
I would’ve preferred it if it turned out that all of the people that Arthur killed turned out to be innocent victims of his psychosis. They made him too much of a sympathetic character imo
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Once he killed Penny, he became Joker and stopped trying to be normal. That is when his confidence came out for real. He became confident when he accepted that he was Joker.
gotcha! i get it now
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Once he killed those guys.. He changed..
Remember.. He did the dance.. Its a symbol.. That he left(felt*) great!!
The scariest and creepiest part of this movie is how realistic and based in reality it is for a comic book universe.
Yeah, i think they are pulling our hair, and this isnt batman stuff, except the names. No superhero stuff.
And if there are, it can always be in his imagination. Jokes on us.
Thatd be great. Lol. @prico3358
@prico3358yeah..
Make sense!!
It's scaringly realistic.. 2 years ago.. I was "mentally not okay"
It felt completely different.. Just like this movie..
Mental health is serious thing.. Here in India people don't take it seriously!!!
the creepiest part is all the stupidity on media regarding this movie back in 2019
This movie uses a literary device called "Unreliable narrator".
The whole story is being shown from Arthur's point of view but since Arthur hallucinates and has a hard time knowing what's real we as the audience can't be sure either.
Like [Redacted] :D
I edited after realizing they havent reacted to that one yet so the less said the better hehe. Rule #1 is very important in it.
The movie is not Arthur's story, the movie is the story about Arthur the Clown People want you to know.
“All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That’s how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.“ - Joker
"The Killing Joke"
Nice!
She said with a straight face "maybe he has a migraine" as he enters a refrigerator lol
lol bc when i get them being in cold spots is where it’s at lol
The fridge is always the go to spot if you know you know 😂
"Maybe the Joker is a symbol just like the Batman is". One of the best quotes
Thats the joke he was laughing at at the end. The punchline is that now Thomas Wayne's son is going to grow up traumatized, like Arthur, and without a father who was supposed to be Thomas, like Arthur. It's actually pretty funny that it worked out like that.
But I also believe that he could have just made up the whole story in his head, just to arrive at the same conclusion, and then escapes the asylum (for the FIRST TIME) having fully transformed himself into the Joker by the force of his fantasy, as if it all really happened.
I think this works best if you don't eve think of this character as THE Joker. That's something he may become later but right now he's just a guy who's been treated badly by the world.
If the WHOLE thing was in his head, he started telling himself this story when he hit his head really hard in the asylum... Then came to the SAME conclusion and transformed himself into Joker by just the force of his internal fantasy and the narrative he built.
Then he kills the nurse and escapes the asylum for the FIRST time, and walks out fully Joker into ANY Gotham you want to put him in to tell your Batman story.
Joaquin Phoenix took home the Oscar for Best Actor in the movie.
It was the highest grossing R Rated movie to make $1 billion dollars at the box office.
It drew a lot of controversy upon release as it involved someone with severe mental health issues being turned into a hero rather than villain
It's also worth checking out his acceptance speech for anyone who hasn't seen it
Yesss. I went to see it opening night! So ready for joker 2
The Joker army grows by the day
I feel invisible quite a bit. I've retreated from people because they are awful most of the time. But I still want to connect and care about others. That's why reaction channels like yours help me cope. Sober 10/01/2019. Thank you for being here.
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Same! Reaction channels are like watching movies or TV with friends.
This was entirely unrelated to any other Batman movie, except for the forthcoming sequel, of course.
The moral of this story is that if someone is treated poorly by everyone in their life, they will start to identify the people who are indifferent to their suffering as their abusers. And theyre not wrong. We live in a society
Wow. This is the first time I see someone using that sentence without cringing.
The movie definitely wants you to question if what you see is reliable. But that being said, every time Joker is fantasizing or hallucination, the movie tells you. When he imagined hugging the late night guy, they showed us it wasn't real. Dating the girl, they showed us it wasn't real. That is why I think everything else in the movie really happened.
I loved how at the end when he walked up to the camera the lights changed the color of his suit from a reddish color to the Jokers classic purple suit.
18:13 He felt free, spontaneous, without any inhibitions after he K those guys. That is what the dance was representing. He was just feeling the vibes ending those guys.
Glad to see your reaction to this movie. Joaquin performed phenomenally and less than 5 months until Joker 2 :) 10/4
Joker holds a special place in the list of modern DC movies because the movie is a gamble. The character of the Joker is one of the most iconic comic book villains around and is easily worth over $1,000,000,000 to a movie studio. Instead of making a movie about the origins of The Joker they instead made a sorrowful character study about a man suffering from mental illness living a miserable life.
It's a wonderful film and your reaction and commentary at the end of this video were great!
What I took from the ending shot of Bruce standing next to his dead parents was when Arthur tells the psychiatrist that she wouldn’t get the joke. I take that as the joke is, that his enemy was created when the Waynes parents were killed.
I think the ending was real, because by that point he had fully become the Joker and because we know Bruce's parents do die. I think he got captured afterwards but killed again and managed to escape, because thats what the Joker always does.
In the comics there's no agreed upon origin for the Joker, it's constantly changing. This is also a standalone story not connected to any of the other Batman movies.
Imagine his brother river was still alive.
he would definitely be proud of his joker performance.
so sad!!!!
I love your pronunciation of the actor’s name. “Jah-queen”. No mockery intended, that’s a great way to say it. Matter of fact I think I’ll say it that way from now on myself:)
He gets in the fridge because it symbolises the moment all doors are closed for him and he feels he is in a cold dark space, once the fridge door closes the lights go off
I'm a grown-ass man and the ending where he's finally recognized as a symbol and a representative, and when he doesn't have to hide who he really is, always gets me to tear up and cry a little with a big smile on his face. The line in his diary about the worst part of mental illness is having to pretend that you're not resonates with me, because as an immigrant I'm from part of the world that really doesn't recognize mental health as being important. It wasn't until I came to Canada that I realized how much it's neglected, and how much that neglect has negatively affected me and others like me. Psychology has always been an interest in my life because of that, and I'm starting graduate school for counselling psychology this year, and I want to be part of that change. Seeing that ending is like looking in a carnival mirror, where it distorts your reflection and shows you a warped version of yourself, and I saw myself and every other underdog out there reflected in Arthur surrounded by others like him. I absolutely love this movie.
You guys keep putting up fantastic movie reactions! Keep them coming.
So i believe when he comes thru the curtains that was him reaching his final form. Once he loses his meds 'the joker' starts to bleed thru more. When he is smoking and writing in his journal, he hits the cigs pauses a sec and then continues to write but with his left hand instead of the right one. Check that scene out again its a small detail but i believe it implies that Arthur is right handed and 'the joker' is left handed split personalities. This is a great movie.
You're exactly right. The whole movie was in his head. Nobody knows the origin of the Joker.
Enjoyed the longer reaction format! Really great points and insights from you two!
This movie really drives home what mental illness and our society's lack of support for it looks like. If he could have gotten the help he actually needed, if people were more empathetic to his situation, none of the bad stuff he did would likely have happened. I'm not saying every mentally ill person can be cured and that none will ever do anything violent... just that it's a reflection of our society that we look down on people who are different, to the point where we basically just discard them and ignore them. This movie tears me up inside because of knowing this sort of thing happens to people every day. We have to raise our kids to be better than stooping as low as bullying someone else. I'm sick of people acting like we're supposed to not have emotions or that everyone needs to "toughen up".
If anything, everyone needs to soften their heart a bit and stop being so callous and cruel to each other.
53:55 it’s funny you say that because while this movie was in theaters many of them had extra security and even police inside and out of the building in fear of what people may have done almost like they were expecting followers of the joker
I wonder if the 2012 theater shooting during The Dark Knight played a role in the extra security.
@@that.ll_do_pig I believe that was a big factor but one thought led to another I guess
When he says that line that if it was him ending in the street you'd walk right over him, I wonder if he was channeling his brother River. Who OD'd and ended in the street and people literally walked right over him.
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Haha when she said "is that real?" I was like "yeah they killed de niro" then it took me like 3 seconds to figure out she ment was it a hallucination 🤣🤣
In the comics, the Joker once said that he prefers his past to be multiple choice. I think this movie, and even The Dark Knight stayed true to that.
My cousin has the same or very similar condition to the Joker's, in that whenever he's nervous, upset, scared, or startled, he laughs. And the worse his emotions, the harder and louder he laughs. It's like an uncontrollable scream, except that it doesn't sound like it to anyone else. He used to get picked on a lot in school because of it.
We also don't know how smart Arthur really is or what hidden talents he may have. He's been on 7 different psychotropic medications. Most of them take weeks to really wear off so the Genius Arthur may emerge once he dries out. We've only met drugged-up Arthur.
I was never a super hero movie fan. I saw this because of the hype and man what a surprise. The scary part is this could really happen. There’s nothing supernatural here.
this isnt a super hero movie, its a movie about mental illness using a few character and location names from a superhero universe
Expert on Cinema: You see Arthur entering the refrigerator symbolises his isolation from the rest of society and his attempt to be cut off from an increasingly immoral and unforgiving world.
Mrs October: maybe he has a migraine
I liked all the actors because the different Jokers were all very different things. Batman is mostly the same in every incarnation with some aesthetic changes but the Joker is always presented with a fresh take. And I think all the actors did a spot on job fleshing these different Jokers out if that makes sense. This one imo is the most horrifying one. Maybe because this is the most possible.
Always looking forward to you guys reactions, love from the UK. You planning on doing a reaction to The Batman with Robert Pattinson?
I hope not
@@centerstagemediaoutlet2268 good for you 👍
"I just hope my death makes more cents than my life." I have that as a tattoo.
That's actually a condition that joker had. I've seen people with that condition.
It's an alternate version of the Joker, so nothing can really be taken from this film beyond the movie itself and it's upcoming sequel. Most superhero movies are like that when it comes to being comic accurate. They are focusing primarily on the insanity of the character in this movie and I expect the sequel whereas Nicholson's version focused on his madcap aspects and Ledger's on his brutality. Each did a fantastic job in their own way and when melded together would well represent the Joker overall.
Lol you overthought the ending guys, they just caught him eventually then he kills the lady psychologist then seems to just go about his day
The movie is really up to interpretation. You figured out how he had his dis-associative disorder between being the nervous himself and the confident Joker. The movie is a social commentary (again up to interpretation) of society letting the lower class fall through the cracks. Yes it is believed he killed the TV host and after the riot he was caught and is now in Arkham. Lot of music in this movie as a great support as well. Super excited for Joker 2 with Gaga.
The 1989 version of the Joker played by Jack Nicholson is my favorite. Great reaction here.
will you guys watch Walk the Line?
The scene in the public bathroom after he murders his attackers in the subway is one of the most painfully beautiful scenes in all of cinema, at least in my opinion. Metamorphosis in live action with an amazing score
This movie is hard to watch, but not necessarily in a bad way.
If you're interested, they documented what Joaquin did to prepare for the role. He studied mental patients, researched their habits, went to a mental hospital, etc. One of the things that I missed the first time: he writes differently on the right pages than he does on the left. From what I got the end with him standing on the cop car was another psychotic event. That's how he saw himself - an inspiration to all those less fortunate. But he never escaped the hospital and ended up in the asylum. I simply 'assumed' they skipped some of the other parts. Or.. with Joker 2 perhaps it is all imagined. Many people mentioned that the Joker's true origin story isn't really defined in the comics, which is also why Heath Ledger's Joker always had a different story for his upbringing.
I've seen it many times before but I just realized that the scene in the hospital where Arthur's imagined girlfriend kissed him on the head, Arthur's face was illuminated different from hers. That was my clue that he imagined the scene.
Thats why he got the oscar for this filim.👌
He killed his mom, Randal, and Murray
And three bankers
In the comics, there are four different versions of the Joker.
Nicholson, Letto, Ledger and Phoenix portrayed all four in the films. Mark Hamill portrayed this version in the animated Batman series. All portrayals have their merits for being unique and believable.
Your first clues shouldve came early (i figured it out LONG before the reveal) First why is this girl always with him at odd hours of the day without her daughter? SO shes just leaving her daughter alone unsupervised everyday to hang out with some guy she just met? Highly unlikely. Then the Thomas Wayne thing. For him to be Batmans brother and considering Thomas Waynes Age, thomas wayne would have to be WAY older than e is/looks to have a son the age of Arthus who looks damn near 50 himself... not to mention the age gap between Arthus and Bruce... The Joker is definitely not like 30+ years older than batman, they look around the same age in every iteration weve seen of batman and joker
You guys nailed it. Most people take the story of the movie as gospel, but it isn't. Arthur is delusional and he is telling the whole story. We don't know what is real or not. Maybe everything is made up, maybe none is made up. We don't know. But there are a lot of clues, at the start of the movie there is a garbage man strike and it's all ever the news, but halfway through the movie they stop mentioning it and it becomes about "eating the rich", but we still see trash everywhere. You guys also got the gun situation correct, I had to watch the movie twice to get most of the stuff you guys got on 1 viewing.
You must watch King of Comedy, This movie was inspired from that. Also from Taxi Driver, but everybody knows about Taxi Driver.
16:56 He toughened up really 'Fing' Quick didn't he?
Joaquin Phoenix ❤❤❤
the movie " the king of comedy " was a big influence on this film. it would be worth checking out, it stars robert Dinero
It's more of a mental health movie than anything. It's makes me sick that people would call this a misogynistic or incel movie, just because it's a man dealing with mental health issues. Barbie is praised for its "female empowerment ", while Joker is viewed as "toxic masculinity ."
Wow, I didn't know that people said that about the movie. That's really sad because men's mental health should be advocated more. So many go through it and it's always looked down upon
@@tokki6085 People were saying that Joker is dangerous. But the Barbie movie gets a pass by hating traditional masculinity/patriarchy and being misandry.
@@aaronmartin7086 Yeah that's really sad about society today. I notice men are getting less and less respect. But hold in there just know there are still women like myself who respect men like yourself
It's been a while since I've seen you guys so this is great, plus I've been wanting to watch The Joker movie before the sequel comes out with Harley Quinn 😄👏🏻. Also to answer your question my favorite Joker is the one voiced by Mark Hamill because it's iconic 😈🤣
This actor was asked to be Dr.Strange and he turned it down then Benedict accepted
He laughs uncontrollably whenever he's trying to fit into 'normal' society as it is fucking with him, because his mind is subconsciously laughing at the absurdity of trying to be sane in an insane world. Notice that once he accepts that he's NOT going to try to fit in, his laughing fits stop.
Tod Phillips wanted to depict what happens when people are abused or mistreated for being different then abandoned, he incorporated aspects of mental health and focused on the character and story to ground the film in reality the film is critically acclaimed and has won multiple awards for the cast and creative team.
Randall gave him the gun but when he got fired his boss told him Randall said he was asking him for one. So Randall didn’t want the blame shifted to him that’s why he killed him because he lied and got him in trouble. Randall was a snake the whole time. He went over there not because he cared about Arthur but just to make sure he didn’t tell the cops anything
The best Joker imo, comes from Batman : The Animated Series. He was voiced by MARK HAMILL.... who as you may know, played LUKE SKYWALKER. Check out some clips on RUclips.
Had you planned to both wear red for this or just a weird coincidence?
The only scenes that were "in his head" were the ones with the girl, as it was shown, the first fantasy being in the audience on Murray's show, everything else was real.
Joaquin Phoenix is a fantastic actor, he has been in many movies but not so popular in Hollywood i'd say. Watch him as Napoleon in a recent movie, great movie, there are also a few other movies where he is great.
Only Heath Ledger's and Joaquin Phoenix's portrayals of the Joker should be allowed in the conversation of "who's the best Joker"? Nobody else
Not quite sure why you’d think his uncontrollable laughter was fake, when it’s been clearly stated he has mental illness and in seven medications, come on peeps stay with us.😮😂😂😂
Also, after he shoots the three guys and is dancing in the bathroom, you’re seeing the emergence of “The Joker”, he felt free to an extent.
They explained what they thought dude and then came to the conclusion it was real, they’re here to reactttttt let themmmm
@@NeophyteNovice who the fuck was talking to you Donkey? The comment section is here for comments, so shut your fucking mouth unless spoken to, it ain’t your channel.
Yall should react to The Batman with Robert Pattinson
Pseudo bulbar affect is the condition he has
That laughing condition is real, there are people who have it. In the movie that's what Arthur had
The lack of any real connection between the Batman/Joker movies to each other and other DC comic movie is because they all wanted to tell their own versions. For instance the whole Dark Knight series, has no direct connection what so ever with this movie other than the name Joker. Otherwise don't try to connect them as there is none at all. The only constant is Bruce's parents getting killed in an alley. Now that James Gunn is in charge of DCUniverse movies, he is trying to have more movies/projects be connected like the MCU. There will be some movies made of DC characters who will not be part of DCU. That doesn't help the situation though.
Howdy neighbors! This movie was a wonderful deep dive into all the things that can go perfectly wrong for someone to snap. What hits home is that many major cities today in America don't seem too far from this kind of collapse...
This was a great movie, outstanding job by Joaquin Phoenix. (pronounced like "Wah-keen", J is silent)
They were cooking with that 1hr analysis
Fun fact, the I forgot to punch out was fully ad libbed by Phoenix
The joker created Batman, I like how they lined that up at the end.
If you kind of like movies that make you feel anxious I recommend Uncut gems. It's an Adam Sandler movie, but not like anything else he's done
The laughing condition Joker has was modelled off a real life person who suffers from the same condition. Quite a difficult thing to live with I'm sure. - ruclips.net/video/8FT2bp31X1Y/видео.html
FUNNY THE JOKER (2019 ) FILM - REACTION FIRST TIME WATCHING !!!!
You asked who is your favorite Joker, Heath or Joaquin???
So you'll have never seen Jack Nicholson as the Joker in Tim Burton's 1989, "Batman". ✌️
The best part of this movie is there’s no guarantee that any of this actually happened. For all we know this could all be a fantasy played out in his head while in a mental institution.
Since it's actually a comic book inspired movie, then the ending definitely happens because why bother making it in the first place since it's supposed to be an origins story.
@@karolswieboda1781 not true. There are plenty of comic stories where the events only happened in the characters head. There’s no real proof that any of this ever happened. Arthur could be inside a padded cell thinking this is reality for all we know.
YES🎉🎉🎉. i know its different but please check out Lego Movie so you can watch Lego Batman.
I don't even think the Joker is a bad person
He is who he is and he tried his entire Life not to be who he is
But the people pusht and beat him all the time until he broke free
If i would be like him i think i would do the same...
Not that i'm crazy but i get it
Another great Christopher Nolan movie you should check out is *The Prestige*
Great movie with an Incredible cast too.
Randal gave Arthur the gun, listen to what Randal said before Arthur ended him
Heath and Nicholson were my favorite Jokers. I loved Joaquin in this film, but it doesn't deel like the Joker.
It’s a real condition
he did an amazing job at this role, but heath ledger will always be the best to me. i don’t blame him for killing those 3 on the subway, they picked on him and bullied him. this is what happens when you pick on people like that, get mad cause he killed those 3 guys, but didn’t say anything about how they beat him up on the subway, and could of killed him. also the joker cared about the poor and wanted to save them, i felt like batman cared about the rich more, am i wrong? have you guys reacted to evil dead 2013 yet? if not, react to it please! it’s one of the best one to me and a lot of others will agree.
1:26:39 😂.
1:28:25 Detroit / Chicago!
Joaquin def the better joker.
And that’s saying something considering the competition
The was never intended to be a superhero or Joker movie, when it was originally written, it had none of the DC stuff or characters in it, it was meant to be a film that reflected mental health and how different environment and societal dynamics can sculpt a persons mind to the point they become what they become and to make people try and see it from the perspective of the person with the mental health issues, yes they do really bad things but you’re also made to feel sympathetic and empathetic for the main character and it evolved into being the Joker.
It was intended to be a standalone Joker origin story that wasn’t really connected to the DC universe but due to its success a sequel was announced and I suspect that Warner Bros will probably try and find a way to weave it into the DC universe and this incarnation of the Joker may one day be in some kind of else world storyline like what happened in say Spiderman or in The Flash.
When it comes to the DC stuff, it’s all over the place, there is very little consistency and crossover, so all the modern DC stuff is not connected to the Nolan Batman stuff and the Nolan Batman and the modern stuff isn’t connected to the OG stuff like Superman and Batman or the Animated stuff or the TV shows etc there are some minor exceptions to the rule but I won’t go into those for spoiler reasons, so when it comes to the DC stuff you kind of have to go into each one not expecting it to tie in to anything you have watched previously, think of them as alternate universes.
As a DC fan whose first exposure to Superhero stuff was the 1978 Superman, I am kind of over the constant reboots and having the same old Superman or Batman origin story.
That’s the DC’s downfall, the constant reboots and standalone stuff, it’s kind of been cursed from the start and I can understand why the casual viewers get confused and don’t know how to tackle watching the DC stuff and they are doing another reboot, it’s just all over the place and to be honest, I think it’s going to fail, people are over it, I think they are over the whole superhero thing full stop, for many different reasons, Hollywood are milking the cow for every drop of milk they can get out of it, it’s like they are at the bottom of the barrel now and all that is coming out is the dregs
This movie was so crazy guys, nuts in my mouth
Erm 🤔 what??
Honestly, we will have to watch joker 2 later on to find the truth. I think he killed Murray but did they lift him up on top or the car and spread the blood on his face... that dude probably gave him the gun tho... shit is blurry tho.
Don’t over think it.
Most of the movie happened.
The girlfriend was a delusion.
The first appearance on Murry was a fantasy.
Nearly everything else happened.
They made the delusions kinda obvious.
Lol Jock- queen Phoenix 😅
I think Heath Ledger is the best live action Joker, Mark Hamill is the best animated Joker.
This is the real beginning of Gotham
Y’all need to watch Taxi Driver. It’s a better version of this movie
I tjink the part in the comedy club was Arthur not knowing when to laugh. No comedic timing. Coupled with the fact that he laughs without control. He laughs at parts that arent funny and missing the actual punchline
Guys Plz react DC Animated Movies too , They are better than live action..👌
I would’ve preferred it if it turned out that all of the people that Arthur killed turned out to be innocent victims of his psychosis. They made him too much of a sympathetic character imo