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TECHNICALLY the Michael Keaton Batman films, and the awful 2000s Val Kilmer and George Clooney Batmans are the same franchise.
Bust most see the Michael Keaton batman/ Tim Burton director duology as separate and the Val Kilmer/ george clonney batmans (schumacher directing both) as its own duology (even though batman actor changes)
P.s. ive always taken the multiple backatories of the joker in this film to be taylor made specific to whats gonna hit home most to thm victim.
Black gangsta guy - he uses the trope of "poor old gamble here wont have a nickle for his granma" to really get under his skin in the first meet ("enough with the clown!").
so he uses the alcholic father/domestic violence/ broken home trope as statistically thats going to be his background
With rachel (helllooo beautiful) he uses the "scorned by a beautiful (and therefore superficial) woman" backstory as shes obviously not the "broken home" kinda person, but would be harder hit by the fear of a man with a specific hatred for women
Read Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.
It's amazing. This film is pretty close to Miller's work.
Batman actors in order 1943 Lewis Wilson , 1949 Robert Lowery , 1966-1968 Adam West , 1989/1992 Michael Keaton ,1995 Val Kilmer , 1997 George Clooney
Dark knight trilogy 2005-2012 Christian Bale , DCU film 2016 - 2021 Ben Affleck .
Michael Keaton played Batman twice
and Birdman once
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@@BubbaCoop And... Johnny Dangerously once so far
The Joker: "People show you who they truly are in their last moments"
Also The Joker: laughs maniacally while falling to his death.
Wow! I’ve seen this move over twenty times and never noticed that.👍
Yeah he thought he made Batman kill him.
@@jmzbondm ya don't say
@PAI DO DERBY absolutely roasted 😔😳
@PAI DO DERBY
You got him so good bro!! What a chad you are 😩
"LOOK AT ME!" is one of the most terrifying lines in this movie, in my opinion. RIP Heath Ledger... :(
I'll never forget how everyone in my theater sucked in their breath simultaneously when he roared that line, and then utterly dead silence when we heard the fake Batman screaming at the end of the video. It was a genuinely horrifying moment.
Yeah you can her the real him underneath all those smiles and giggles in that "LOOK AT ME!"
The delivery is just too perfect. ❤️
Every time I watch the Dark Knight and every time I here "LOOK AT ME" I almost crap my pants
Apparently Heath was given free reign to do what he wanted in that scene and it was so good, it ofc stayed in the film.
Joker says in Killing Joke, "If I'm going to have a past, i prefer it to be multiple choice." He is so insane that he doesn't remember his life before becoming the joker at all.
Not so much that he doesn't remember, but that he prefers to change it up depending on who he's telling, to see how they react to it. He gets off on that reaction
@@lordmortarius538 it’s actually both: he says so himself.
Lots of research has gone into the mentality of the joker and he’s actual not even insane. He thinks extremely clearly and plans very well. He’s lucid with every decision he makes. That’s what makes him so dangerous. He’s incredibly unpredictable.
@@lordmortarius538 This but also I would say depending on the Joker we use as basis he can also lack some of his memories
Or he does but finds it funnier to tell people a different story every time
Fun Fact: the Joker licking his lips happened because the prosthetic kept starting to come off; Heath kept licking his lips to press them back on and it just became part of the Joker's aesthetic
@Carlos Spicyweiner it is but it’s one of this jokers most iconic things
@Carlos Spicyweiner Jared Leto sucked as Joker 😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣
@Carlos Spicyweiner You're a good troll. Jared Leto was the worst joker of all of them. By far.
@@LadaHusakLH joaquin phoenix is a pretty bad joker imo. not really the actor's fault, but the way the character was written. not really sure what so many people saw in that movie, guess it just wasn't for me.
@@Jack_80 you expected the jokers life but the movie was about Arthur pleck nothings wrong with the movie and the joker you went to watch the movie with wrong expectations
The man at Wayne's penthouse who said "we're not intimidated by thugs" is a sitting US senator, Patrick Leahy from Vermont. He is a huge batman fan and has been in a number of batman-related media. It still tickles me he was in this movie though.
He is also President pro temper of the Senate, and thus third in in the line of succession to the Presidency after the Vice President and Speaker of the House.
@@brucebieberly4166 some Illuminati shit there or should i say Court of Owls shit
wow now TDK never will be the same for me 🙃
Specifically the Batman The Animated Series Episode: Showdown, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, and Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice (where I believe his character was killed).
He also, like everyone else in the room, was not prepared for their first encounter with Ledger's Joker. His reaction to, "I hated my father!" wasn't acting. He was seriously freaked out. Everyone was. Michael Cain even dropped a line when Ledger entered.
Fun fact: Maggie's first scene with joker was the first time she saw Heath in full make up and was legitimately scared Michael Caine also forgot his line because he was so startled by Heaths look when he walks off the elevator Michael was supposed to have a line but was so taken aback cause that was also the first time he saw Heath in character a
Mad Max Fury Road had a moment like that with Immortan Joe by one of the actresses
Also the scene with the hospital blowing up there was a delay so ledger adlibed the looking confused part
@@sinned6us Christian Bale also was really hitting him in the interrogation scene... Maggie did kick Heath in the groin but hers was by accident she was just running on adrenaline
And you know Maggie is the sister of Jake Gyllenhaal who starred with Ledger in Brokeback Mountain.
@@sinned6us not true
When Joker is in the hospital with Dent, making him point the gun at his head, Joker’s finger is blocking the hammer. Even if Dent had pulled the trigger, Joker was protecting himself.
“Do I look like a man with a plan?” No, but you’re always one step ahead of everyone.
The Joker perhaps didn't have a large strategic plan, but he definitely had extensive tactical plans
the joker doesn't block the hammer the whole time
@@Sinfaroth ruclips.net/video/EhoWj4gEpwU/видео.html He didn't block it. He just pushed it down constantly.
"do i look like a guy with a plan ?" aaaaann, yes ?
Lol, true dat! ... You mean getting two parties on two boats, where one is pretty much convicts and the other average civilians... you just... "happen into that" ? xD or replacing the clowns as hostages... that wasn't premeditated at all?
:P there's definitely some sort of plan or planning going on there. Even if it seems chaotic and random :D
The scene where Rachel sees the joker up close was her real reaction. She had never seen him in the makeup.
This is the same with Michael Caine. WhenJoker comes up the elevator and says ‘We Made It!” that was was the first time Caine saw Ledger in makeup.
That was the first time anybody on that scene ever saw him in that makeup.
@@IndySidhu88 Michael Caine had a line for Heath/Joker, you can actually see how freaked out he is trying to say something but then just gets brushed aside!
Also the man that Joker says reminds him of his father is a real senator who has been a Batman fan for decades.
@@IndySidhu88 And she also legit kicks him in the stomach
It's so tragically sad that we lost Heath Ledger after his performance in this movie. You should watch "A Knight's Tale" to see another bit of great acting from him, and a really fun story as well.
Oh yeah, A Knight's Tale is a classic
@@ianburns1167 along with 10 things I hate about you and the patriot
Two Hands (1999)
Obviously DKR had both Bane and Scarecrow.. such a tragedy we didn’t get to see Joker return as well.
Heath was GREAT in his supporting role in MONSTER'S BALL.
The Dark Knight is my all time favorite superhero movie, with Heath Ledger being, in my opinion, the best Joker ever.
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Its not only the best superhero movie, but one of the best movies ever made
There's a reason Heath Ledger won his postumous Oscar.
@@espentf3 not it’s not
@@andrecarvalho1247 yes it is. That is a fact not an opinion. If you think otherwise just know that you are in denial and should not be allowed to watch movies ever again
Heath Ledger stole the show his performance was absolutely brilliant, such a tragedy he passed away so young
Ehhh...young adult male, depressed, dies of overdose....not what I would call a tragedy...
Not saying, just saying...
@@codymoe4986 Who hurt you?
@@codymoe4986 That's literally a tragedy. Common tragedies are still tragedies. Oh, and keep shitty opinions like that to yourself.
@@codymoe4986 Oh please shut the F up ?what do you know about people struggling with addictions ? If you can't be sensible atleast don't be an ignorant idiot.
The instant the Joker murdered someone _with a magic trick,_ I knew the character portrayal - concept, writing, directly, acting - was going to be legendary. I could feel the tension in my entire theater opening night whenever he was onscreen. He made every last one of us nervous.
It's also a shame that Nolan is sometimes a little too casual with background details, to the point you miss impactful moments. That pile of money the Joker set on fire? He had Lau bound and gagged on top of it.
29:45 for the Pile of Money, if anyone else wants to check :D
with the pile of money I always thought it was from the Jokers POV, he ignores it once he's made his point, he doesn't care about Lau
It's not about money, it's about sending a message.
It was definitely a deliberate choice that Lau goes out of focus at that point. Possibly to downplay the horror, possibly to help establish that the Joker didn't care about him at all.
What?!! I have never noticed that
25:04 "Did Christopher Nolan flip a semi?" Now that's what I call phrasing, Simone 😄
And yes, he totally did. This movie is a textbook example of how to mesh practical and digital FX, because the blend is almost seemless. And though some of its more extreme manoeuvres were achieved with CGI, the Batpod really worked too, even though they weren't sure that it would!
I wish they knew more about the character than these real films showed giving the role of inventor to fox for example..and making gordon seem more like a detective...those are both batman things which are like his super powers to go with his martial arts..his brain his tech he built and his fighting skills are why he's still grounded enough and yet still seems super natural...whic let's us feel its real and he can help without giving him powers...which is very goofy to some
You can see the CO2 plume when it flips. Practical effects just rule :)
Props to George who can stare at Harvey's burnt face and eat pizza at the same time. XD
One of my favorite tidbits about this movie is that Batman is the only one to see through the whole "you know how I got these scars?" line and give a response. The Joker expects everyone to be morbidly interested in them, and telling the story is a way for him to keep control of a situation (after all, if you're listening to him prattle on, you're not thinking of ways to turn the table on him).
Watching Heath as the Joker was the best theater experience I have had. On the edge anytime he was on screen.
Fun fact: the man at Harvey's party that said "We're not intimidated by thugs." leading to the Joker saying that the guy reminded him of his father is actually sitting US Senator Patrick Leahy from Vermont. He is currently the longest tenured Senator and has appeared in 5 separate batman movies due to his comic book fandom. He also voiced a role in the animated series in 1995.
In the RiffTrax for this movie, when the Joker says "You remind me of my father", one of the riffers says "He was a bald senator from Vermont".
I actually liked the multiple origins for the Joker’s scars. To me, it’s always been a nod to the fact that between the films and comics over the years, he’s had more than one ‘true’ origin. There’s even a comic called The Three Jokers that tries a modern explanation for why there are so many different Joker personalities and outfits.
It also means the character remains a mystery. We get no reason why, no definitive background, just more possibilities. It keeps the characters edge throughout.
Who didn’t like it I thought everyone did it’s a part of his character
I read Batman and Son recently, and they threw in the idea that Joker kind of has a mental "reset" every so often, and his entire personality changes. but the core remains.
I saw it more as a nod to The Killing Joke. As it does explore his potential backstory but even Joker in the comic admits he doesn’t entire remember his origins. He remembers one way, sometimes another.
“if I’m going to have a past, I’d prefer it to be multiple choice.”
Less is more and what scares us most are things we don't understand.
The Joker Clapping 25:47 for Commissioner Gordons promotion was adlibbed on ledgers part. He really carried off the creepy part of it with style. AND.....He asked to have his head slammed during interrogation into the table by Batman for realism.
didn't they have to compromise on that shot? I remember something about him insisting on doing it but they refused to let him slam his head on the steel table. I remember hearing about it as a story about it being one of the few CGI stunts (and in the end he still had his head slammed on a 1 inch pad... a bunch of times)
Fun fact: when you watch the third movie in this trilogy there’s a scene that features Scarecrow as a judge over Gotham, and it was originally planned that it would be the Joker until Heaths unfortunate passing.
I've gotta say that this seems unlikely, Ledger died six months before Dark Knight was released, so while they were still on post-production for it, and Christopher Nolan has said that he didn't think about any possible sequels until after this one was done. He also didn't go right into working on Dark Knight Rises after this, as Inception was his next movie. Hell he didn't say for sure there was going to be a third movie until 2010, when he figured out what the story would be, as he wouldn't fully commit to making it until they found a good story.
@@rynol1 maybe “original plan” wasn’t the best way to describe it. “Would have liked to have had” would probably be better wording.
I would have hoped they just went ahead and inserted him for that small scene… they did it with the hunger games franchise, they pulled it off with the Fast and Furious one as well. I wouldn’t want a full acting scene because Heath is too great to do that to him- but at least for a glimpse it would be great to see the Joker out and about
Heath literally improvised a handful of scenes in this movie, one of the greatest acting performances of all time hands down
"Look at me!" is one of the best line deliveries, probably my favourite moment in the film
@@gunman462 Also his delivery of two lines, "let's put a smile on that face" and "you have nothing to threaten me with, nothing to do with all your strength" when he is getting beaten up by Batman in the prison. His delivery is so memorable i won't ever forget that ever in my life till my last breath. Talk about leaving legacy.
@@gunman462 That's my favorite moment too. :)
the scene with the faulty detonator when he's at the hospital is my favourite.
@@joelwatkins that actually wasn't improvised, the explosives not going off was a safety measure for Heath, his reaction was actually rehearsed multiple times, he just pulled it off so well that people thought it was improvised
"What is this?"
"It's a TV."
So much like "A hospital? What is it?"
"It's a building with patients, but that's not important right now ..." ;-)
😂 Airplane 😂 underrated comment 👍
@@randomvideoconnoisseur563 "I just wanted to say good luck, we're all counting on you"
@@3Rayfire "I just wanted to say good luck, we're all counting on you"
This. This is one of favorite films of all time and I remember coming out of my theater the opening night knowing that I had just seen something truly special. Since it’s release, it’s long been considered the gold standard of which all comic book based films are measured.
Worded nearly the same way I do. I knew I had seen something special so I sat in my seat for an extra few min to take in the moment. Amaaaaaazimg film.
No comic book based film measures up to this. It stands alone, towering over the genre.
The four Batman movies that started in 1989 are *technically* all the same series. Michael Keaton played him in the first two (Batman and Batman Returns), Val Kilmer played him once (Batman Forever) and Clooney once (Batman & Robin).
The first 2 were directed by Tim Burton, the others I forget who put their names on them.
@@jean-paulaudette9246 joel Schumacher
I think if the term had actually been coined by 1995, Joel Schumacher's "Batman Forever" would have been considered a "Reboot". His films were so stylistically different from Tim Burton's Gothic Fantasies that they bear little resemblance to each other. Aside from the actor playing Alfred.
@@richieclean and the actor playing Commissioner Gordon 👍🏼
Now they made tim Burton movies as separate universe to that of Schumacher movies by introducing multiverse. Even Batman forever is now is it's own universe and Batman &robin is in different universe.
At last the legacy of Tim Burton Batman movies is restored with its glory.
U always hated that Schumacher movies are in same universe as Burton movies. But now with multiverse each movie can shine without other director movies influence.
The scene with the gangsters when The Joker shows up proves how amazing Heath Ledger's performance was. You two were wide-eyed, and speechless the whole time.
Simone saying " OK mr Nolan how about fuck you?" I laughed so hard. It's like hearing a lady from church saying a bad word and being shocked unironically, it's fantastic.
The Joker's livestream has to be one of the most genuinely terrifying moments in film history.
Fun fact: This was also the moment, Caine and Bale saw Ledgers performance the first time. The party crashing was the first time Ledger did it in front of a large audience.
You know Heath Ledger actually filmed those parts on a hand-held cam. Man he was scary good in this role.
Which is straight out of the comics. There's several stories where Joker took over the radio or TV and announced who he was going to kill.
@@robertkramer2271 Indeed. His very first appearance had him announcing his murders over the radio.
Lmao yea if you're 8 year old like you are
The hospital explosion was a practical effect. They actually leveled it in one take for that shot. Also, when the Joker walks outside expecting the building to blow up and it didnt, that was a technical error with the detonator so he was genuinely shocked by the explosion.
Then he improvised the jokers reaction which made it so much better
No it wasn't, everything was rehearsed numerous times, with the pause before explosion in every rehearsal. Think about it, you have an A list actor walking out of building they are about to blow up, obviously they are going to be extra careful and make sure he gets to his mark before blowing up a building. Christopher Nolan even said it was all planned exactly how it was filmed This is just a interne legend at started because...i don't know why. Probably since Heath died people want to build up his mystique.
and here is the Nolan quote:
"[Special effects supervisor Chris Corbould] was able to come up with a scenario in which Heath could actually be walking out of the building because what Chris worked out is if we put in a little beat where the first set of explosions stops as if something's gone wrong, and the Joker just takes a second to look around surprised like the audience is surprised, then the major demolition comes in and he jumps straight into the school bus. In that way he was able to come up with a practical scenario in which we could actually take a principal actor, walk him out of a building that's about to be destroyed, and literally drop the building to the ground."
That’s just a rumor that’s since been debunked.
When the says at the end "I think you and I are destined to do this forever" I always think to myself, and we would have gladly done so. Heath Ledger stole the show with one of the best performances full stop. Not only did he find his place as The Joker alongside Cesar Romero, Mark Hamill and Jack Nicholson, he made it his own and quite possibly the best. Truly one of the best films of all time and best trilogy. The Dark Knight is well worth rewatching because you pick up on so many little that are missed on first viewing. They don't make them like this no more.
All Jokers prior him ware that weird combination of unstable criminal and comedian that to be honest I don't like at all because even before seeing The Dark Knight and without reading the comics my idea of Joker was way more complex and derker so all Jokers after Ledgers feel more like the Joker I had in my head even the so hated Letto Joker from Suicide Squad
INTERESTING FACT ---- The Man who says "We're Not Intimidated By Thugs" at 16:32 (in the video above) is actually Senator Patrick Leahy who is a BIG Fan of Batman.
25:00
Yes, Nolan flipped a truck. There is a behind the scenes on the DVD. They had a 10 foot metal bar inside the truck that slammed down to push the cargo container up, then used aftereffects to cut out the contraption out.
The actor portraying the Joker is Heath Ledger, who tragically died before the movie was released. He posthumously won an Oscar as best supporting actor for his role as the Joker
Best Joker ever. RIP Heath
100%. The last Joker film did a huge disservice to the character, and nothing will ever top Heath's performance. I'm interested in the new Batman film with Robert Pattinson, but not sure anything will beat this film for me as the best Batman film ever.
@@jksgameshelf3378 I liked the last one but you can't really come close to this one
Batman > Joker >>>> everybody else. Period!
Jack Nicholson, best joker.
Can’t say he was the best joker
But we can say he was the best version of that style of joker
Which is not the same style as Jack nickelsons as he was the best tv era version of joker
Heath was the best killing joke version
That Gordon speech at the end always makes me tear up. So awesome!
Seeing this film on opening night and with the huge anticipation of watching heath ledger turn into one of the most famous villain in batman history was historic and when that live scene of him toying with his batman victim grunting angrily "look at me!" Idk about the audience but I had goosebumps all over with being scared and excited at the same time. Heath ledger took it to a whole new level after that.
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Whose played Batman?.
Adam West.
Robert Lowrey.
Will Arnett.
Michael Keaton.
Val Kilmer.
George Clooney.
Olan soule.
Lewis Wilson.
Bruce Greenwood.
Ben Affleck.
Kevin Conroy.
Ben Mckenzie.
Will Freddie.
Christian Bale.
Robert Pattison.
Diedrich Bader.
Rino Romano.
Sure I've missed some.
Robert Lowrey's Batman gets points for some bone shattering stunts, and then loses those points for most hilarious Batman costume.
@@gallendugall8913 even more hilarious than bat-nipples?
I notice right away you missed Jason O'Mara who played Batman in the DCAMU. I would say Kevin Conroy, Christian Bale, and Jason O'Mara are the best, with Conroy winning by far
David Mazouz in Gotham.
Young Bruce Wayne from Gotham
Heath`s performance still blows me away. What a movie!
nice fact to know is,
that in order to keep the prosthetics in their place as they got loose when he spoke, Ledger had to lick his makeup to keep it in place, and it ended up becoming part of the Joker's manic personality, as well as his most memorable mannerism.
25:00 Yes, they flipped that truck. Christopher Nolan really prefers to use practical effects over CGI, occasionally he uses miniatures but the truck flip was real.
If you want to be amazed at what an imaginative director and crew can accomplish I'd recommend Inception by Christopher Nolan, it has a fight scene in a hallway with constantly shifting "gravity" that was entirely a practical effect.
I remember when the news talked about it while they were filming in Chicago.
Inception is a great movie even if I don't understand why everyone says it's so confusing. And that gravity scene is just *chef's kiss*
The truck flip wasn't done with miniatures? For some reason, I thought it was.
@@russellhoyt588 Nope, totally practical effects. There's a behind the scenes segment about it. In short, they used compressed air and a piston mounted under the trailer to launch it into the air. That's why you can see what looks like steam coming from behind the trailer in the shot.
@@randomman057 Yeah, I do remember that now that you mention it!
I know Joaquin Phoenix did an excellent job with the Joker but for me Heath Ledger as the Joker has to be the definitive version.... Truly awesome. After a day on set Christian Bale could barely talk after doing the voice for hours onset.
Joaquin Phoenix did an awesome job playing Travis Bickle
@@chand911 Agreed. I don't think "Joker" was really supposed to be "The Joker". The story in "Joker" really didn't need to be set in Gotham or have any connection to Batman.
@Darkstar that's a weird way to spell "Mark Hamill" lol
@@TheNeonRabbit I was saying this after I watched it in theaters. Making it a part of the batman universe felt like a distraction from the main character study. None of the bruce wayne scenes felt needed. But then again not as many people would’ve watched it if it didn’t have the joker/batman brand
I didn't see the new Joker movie. I was skepitical to start with about a new joker, and then hearing that the entire plot was white male resentment....yeah, no thanks, we're living that in real life!
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Joker screaming LOOK AT ME made the theater I was watching this in go from quiet to dead silence. I swear people forgot to breathe they were that intimidated.
The truck flip is by far the most impressive shot of the film. He shot it in the middle of Chicago. The effect was achieved with a piston that slammed the ground to push it up. There was actually a stunt man driving it. The only cgi in the scene is to remove the piston from view. Really amazing.
Yep right in the middle of La Salle St in downtown Chicago. It's all fucking real. Nobody would ever bother to go to that amount of effort these days.
I always wondered if the Tumbler going under the truck and crushing it into the roof a few mins before was a real and how they did it
I wish they had tried to remove the gas used to propel the piston. It's incredibly out of place in the shot
Its amazing that you guys know so little about this one. It was the biggest movie in the world when it came out lol. especially after Heath Ledger died. The midnight showing in our town had a line going out the doors and every parking spot was filled.
George here, I actually wanted to watch this when it came out, cause it was at a time where my English was getting better and i could understand English movies. but i remember very specifically being so disappointed that this movie was banned in China and it was released while i was there for a few months staying with family.
@@CineBingeReact George I'm actually pretty thrilled that you guys got to enjoy this with such new eyes. As if it had just came out. That's how films like this should be enjoyed but so many are spoiled by the time they've been out this long.
@@CineBingeReact English is not your first language? Wow, you don't have a hint of an accent.
@@rustincohle2135 he definitely speaks it as good as if it was his first.
I had to adjust my estimate of how old Simone and George were downward for not knowing Heath Ledger was in this haha. I know there are some people who just weren't into movies and got into them later, but I feel like even if you were 10 and your parents didn't let you see The Dark Knight, people in school still would've been talking about it! I guess you wouldn't necessarily track actors that much before a certain age though.
The delivery of the gravity monologue is probably my favourite villain scene of all time. It's bananas how great this film is.
The hospital explosion delay and Heaths reaction where unplanned. Incredible moment from an amazing performance.
I'm pretty sure after seeing that story for a while, it's been said that in reality it WAS scripted that way.
It was 100% scripted and rehearsed. It's just a rumor that spread when the movie came out, and because Nolan hates talking about behind the scenes stuff to help maintain the illusion of his films, it spread with nothing to contradict it.
The explosion didn't delay or rather the explosion delayed on purpose, to make sure Heath was in safe and the surprise of Joker was scripted. A little reasoning is enough to understand there was no room for unplanned things in a shoot like that. They hadn't a second take. Nolan himself contradicted that myth.
@@nicoladc89 makes since. To be fair he wouldn't have been within 50 yards of danger at the moment of explosion so the delay would still have been possible and within safety ranges. Cameras are good at changing perspective. Oh well. Doesn't really take anything away from the shot for me.
Thanks for the correction
"The Dark Knight" is one of the movies that you can consider a "perfect movie", because everything fits and gels while being unique. Like "Back To The Future", "Se7en", "Terminator 2" or "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back".
"Was it (the grenade) a dud?"
C'mon. His name is The Joker. In the comics, a lot of his bombs are fake and a lot of his non-bombs (toys, pens, gifts) are bombs. It's all part of the comedian in him.
Plus laughing gas. Poison. Whatever. Could be anything is the point.
@@GlennShook In the script it’s just “smoke Grenade.”
I'm from Vermont, and our current sitting Senator, Patrick Lahey (or however you spell it), was the old guy that The Joker says, "You remind me of my father.", at the party scene, and I've talked on multiple occasions with the Senator about this scene, but one of the multiple scenes Heath improved, was that one. He had grabbed Lahey by the face, and held that knife to him, and after he filmed it, folks were telling Heath, "I can't believe you just did that!". Heath was apparently like, "Did what?!", and folks told him he just man handled a sitting US Senator, and Heath was freaking out, thinking he was going to get in trouble for hurting a US government offical. Then Lahey approached, and told him that was some of the best acting he'd ever seen, and Heath was of course never in any trouble, but imagine grabbing a Senator, or whatever government offical, by the face, and threatening him, when it wasn't scripted. 😬 Could've gone a whole other direction! 😅
I'm sure it's known, especially in your 500+ comments, but that Senator threat, the clapping for Gordon's promotion, the turning around when all the hospital bombs don't go off 100% to plan, and the licking of his mouth prosthetic wax stuff; licking it to me sure it stayed on over time. Literally some legendary acting, and on the spot genius. 🙏 RIP, Heath! He was just incredible!!!
The semi tipping over stunt was 100% practical - you can see the escaping cloud from the steam cannon midway down the length of the trailer
Memories of the longest line-up ever for this, stretching almost the entire length of the mall it played in.
I'm envious of people who get to watch this movie for the first time. Maybe I'll get dementia and forget I watched it. Silver linings
25:50 - Fun fact, the scene where Gordon becomes the police Commissioner and all the police start applauding, the Joker/Health's additional clapping was unscripted, a spontaneous improvisation on Heath's part that fit the Joker's characterization so well, that it made it into the film and actually became one of the most iconic moments throughout.
You guys should react to A Knights Tale starring Heath Ledger an amazing and feel good movie I know you'll love.
I love how you guys noticed the Joker uses a different background story depending on who he’s talking to bc there’s a theory that he used to be a military interrogation officer, which would explain why he can quickly create these tales that connect to his victims and scare them on a personal level. He even tells Batman to never start with the head when he gets interrogated 😂
After seeing the greatest Joker performance of all time, I'd love to see a reaction to Joaquin Phoenix's Joker in the recent movie. He did absolutely incredible in instilling the same bone-chilling unpredictability and bipolar demeanor of the character that just keeps you on edge the entire movie. One of the best performances of the last couple years in my eyes!
23:26 nothing symbolizes chaos more simply & directly than a firetruck engulfed in fire
"You complete me." is an amazing line. Jack Nicholson played the first Joker in Tim Burton's version, and Jack Nicholson said, "You complete me." in the movie "As Good As It Gets".
I prefer Keaton's movies more but as a massive Batman fan I 1000% get the love for the Nolan trilogy because they are all pretty great😎
Seeing as you're appreciating Christian Bale's version of the Batman, may I suggest watching the film he appeared in prior to the Batman Trilogy.
It is mindboggling to see how far he went for his character.
It's a psychological thriller called The Machinist (2004) and has an IMDB rating of 7,7/10.
To avoid potential spoilers don't look it up, just watch it. It is definitely worth your while.
Bale deserves more praise..he made me a fan for life with these trilogy
To see where Bale's career took off, look no further than the 1987 movie called Empire of The Sun. He was only 13 at the time and absolutely killed it in his role. Other great movies that he stars in includes Rescue Dawn, The Prestige and The Fighter.
@@lameduck3105 You're right about Empire of the Sun. Saw it as a kid, loved it. I had totally forgotten he was in it.
The reason Heath’s joker kept licking his mouth was because the scar special effect kept slipping so he would lick it to put it back in place, and Christoper Nolan liked it a lot that they kept it in the movie
Fun Fact: Skyhook was real. It's also used in one of the early James Bond movies.
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Also used in the John Wayne movie The Green Berets.
Fun fact: Nolan let Heath Ledger write and direct the hand-cam video where the Joker interrogates the Batman-wannabe vigilante. And that video is terrifying. Especially the "LOOK AT ME"
If you ever get the chance to watch this movie on an Imax screen, do it! The big action scenes are actually shot with Imax cameras, so they look absolutely amazing on the big Imax screens because they're not just up-scaled like other movies (and like the rest of this movie), and they even use the Imax aspect ratio so they fill the entire screen. Funny enough, the change in aspect ratios and picture quality between scenes that were shot in Imax and scenes that weren't doesn't even feel weird, it just makes the action scenes seem even more intense because they take up the entire screen instead of just most of it, and all of the details are so much sharper.
This movie makes me sad now. The line Heath Ledger says, "I think you and I are destined to do this forever". I wish. RIP.
There have been 6 different Batmen, in 4 cinematic universes:
- 'Batman (1989)' & 'Batman Returns' starring Michael Keaton, directed by Tim Burton.
- 'Batman Forever' starring Val Kilmer & 'Batman & Robin' starring George Clooney, directed by Joel Schumacher (Both technically take place in the same universe as the Tim Burton movies)
- The Nolan trilogy with Christian Bale.
- (My personal favorite) Ben Affleck in 'Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice' & 'Zack Snyder's Justice League', directed by Zack Snyder.
As well as 'Suicide Squad' directed by David Ayer.
- And Robert Pattinson in 'The Batman' directed by Matt Reeves.
The most plausible story I heard about Joker's motives here is that he had one really bad day and snapped. If he can get someone else to break as hard as he did, then he's not really broken.
I'm largely immune to horror. I don't get freaked out by scary movies. I can't even take them seriously most of the time. We saw this in a theater in a mall as the last show of the night. We normally park by a door near the theaters, but not the closest. It's easier to find a spot there. The show got out about 1 AM. As I was walking out of the empty mall, through the mostly empty parking lot, I felt genuinely vulnerable, because Joker isn't some supernatural monster like Freddie, or Jason, or Michael Meyers. He's just a guy with a creative mind and low threshold for boredom, and those are real.
When you do the next episode. Search the news for the movie title before your closing commentary. You'll know why when you see the story, but if you need more, add Colorado to the search.
@@radbarij he's referencing the shooting incident at a theatre in Aurora Colorado. 12 dead, 70 wounded. It was at a midnight screening of the film.
Heath Ledger - The most chilling and amazing Villain - Deeply and Sincerely missed in Australia
I think it was in "the Killing Joke" that the Joker famously said that he prefers his past to be multiple-choice.
The two addresses the Joker gives Batman are 250 52nd Street(a number that is the same forwards and back) and Avenue X(a cross). Both can be seen as symbolic of things being switched around. It was a deliberate ploy to fool Batman to go to the wrong place to save Rachel. Even if Batman realized the Joker was lying, and went to the right place to save Rachel, he would still be choosing to let Harvey die. Either way, the Joker gets the chaos he wants, and puts Batman in a no win situation.
Technically, "Batman" (1989), "Batman Returns," "Batman Forever," and "Batman & Robin" are a quadrilogy
25:12 The Joker wanted Batman to hit him because Batman has one rule and it says that he never kills anyone. The Joker's goal is to throw everything and everyone into chaos. He want everyone to throw their moral compass overboard. If Batman had run over the Joker and killed him, then he would have broken his one rule and so the Joker would have achieved his ultimate goal and won against Batman.
The first two Nolan Batman films are the Batman I always imagined. The grounded, gritty and dark world of the Batman, finally realized.
George Clooney played Batman once. Michael Keeton played Batman twice. You are in the only Batman trilogy consisting of Batman Begin, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. Ben Affleck plays Batman in the DCCU movies, but I don't know how many there are of those, having only seen two of them.
Michael Keaton was Batman in two Tim Burton movies. Val Kilmer followed and then George Clooney in two Joel Schumacher movies that were connected to the Burton movies.
Just found this channel four hours ago, and haven't been able to stop watching. You both have awesome energy and chemistry! Very fun, new fan here
The four batman movies that ran from 1989 - 1997 are technically a series. The titles of them are 'Batman', 'Batman Returns', 'Batman Forever' & 'Batman and Robin'. Though these movies are technically a quadrilogy, the actor who played batman changed from Michael Keaton in the first two, to Val Kilmer in the third, and George Clooney in the fourth (batnipples and all).
Speaking of batnipples, the general tone of the movies also changed drastically movie to movie, this is mainly due to a change in the director. Tim Burton directed the first two, which are by far the best, and Joel Schumacher directed the third and fourth and they are absolutely batshit crazy.
That guy at the fundraiser who told the Joker they're not intimidated by thugs was then US senator Patrick Leahy
I'm still shocked at how different this one felt from Batman Begins. It had the same cast (for the most part) and same music but everything else about it just felt so different tonally. I mean don't get me wrong, I love it, but sometimes I have trouble remembering that this is a sequel to Begins. Gotham City also looks a lot cleaner too. This is definitely my favorite Batman film and I don't think that's ever going to change for me. The hyper-realistic take on the Batman combined with the great storytelling and gorgeous shots full of practical effects is just amazing to watch. I wish I could've seen this in IMAX but I was too young at the time. Here's to hoping that they'll maybe release the trilogy again in IMAX during some anniversary or something.
Agreed! I hear that when TDK was released back in '08 people thought _this_ was Nolan's first Batman film. I almost wish I was in that group 'cuz I would have loved finding out that BB existed after watching TDK!
I think most of that comes from them drastically stylising the city in batma begins because they need it to be the dark crime filled place his parents get killed in an alley, and for it to have the run down wayne enterprise train system, along with the island with the asylum on it, amd the scene of the tumbler jumping on rooftops like the big church. The temple on a mountain. All that had a gothic/minatures feel to it that made it closer to like the burton/shumacher/comicbook gotham. Whereas this one the train track is destroyed, theres no mention of the asylum, its essentially just a city, the only plot ellement to the city is the use of the underground, so they just filmed chicago. Or the blowing up the hospital, that was just a converted parking garage that was being demolished anyway. Had they done a more gotham looking hospital minature and blew it up, it would have added more of that gotham feel to it.
But at the same time at the start the city is supposed to be more cleaned up and sorted out. But yeah i think some character to it would have been good, because it just feels like theyre filming in a chicago, not gotham.
@@ge2719 I do think that was intentional. Making the city one that could be YOUR city. That such corruption, crime, pain, and ideologies are not just fiction, but very real elements of our society and especially the U.S. metropolitan areas. The idea the criminal underground didn’t disappear, they just got some class. ‘Filthy’ street kingpins started wearing dress suits and tuxedos. Mobster’s started wearing designer goods and started staying further away from the actual violence. As the joker says, “I mean what happened? Did your balls fall off?”
I believe that was done intentionally to demonstrate Batman's influence on cleaning up Gotham between the two films.
Please watch "Harry and the Hendersons" (1987)! One of my favorite childhood movies!
Great movie!
I'd also super enjoy a reaction to this! It's one that I watched as a youngster, as well. I grew up/still live in the Pacific Northwest, so whenever I watch the movie it's like I'm in a time machine. :)
I always remember him making a siren noise with his head out the window.
Yup. He really flipped that truck. He also really crashed the train in the last one.
The truck was flipped in real life on the street on Chicago. And Chicago was used as Gotham City. At least for the first two Christopher Nolan Batmans.
Now you guys really gotta watch Joker (2019), another interesting and different take on the character with a masterful performance from Joaquin Phoenix
Amazing reaction guys!! It was great seeing people that don't know about Harvey Two-Face going in! Awesome stuff!!
35:12 --- It was a double blind.. Just like Rachel and Harvey.. That's the "joke".. Each boat had their OWN detonator...
When the truck flips, you see the smoky looking fog underneath it? That's the air cannon they use to flip it. Once you've seen it, you'll see it anytime a car flips. I first noticed it in The Punisher (2004).
My favourite part is when Joker is suddenly defeated and thrown off the building to his death and his immediate reaction is to laugh maniacally :-).
I remember watching this in theaters when it came out and I went in cold turkey, I hadn’t even seen the trailers and this movie blew my mind. I haven’t watched a superhero movie since out of respect ✊
@@highstimulation2497 Logan is another one that transcends the genre. Black Panther not so much imo
It's something really special when people react that truly get the juice of a movie like this and you guys got it in spades!
One thing I appreciated that may have been mentioned here was when the joker said in their last moments people show who they really are. Falling from the building Joker was cackling like a madman.
Bat Trivia: The Joker's real name is “Jack Oswald White.”
"They re-cast Rachel?"
This movie was in production at the same time Katie Holmes had given birth to hers and Tom Cruise's baby. And she, of her own free will and not because she was forced at the hands of a large organization to be a prisoner in her own home because they believe her baby to be the reincarnated form of L. Ron Hubbard (nope not all, that may or may not be in a sarcastic tone), decided to not reprise her role.
Nope, Katie Holmes turn down the role to shoot another movie. Yes, she prefer to act in Mad Money than in The Dark Knight. What a stupid choice.
@@nicoladc89 she married a Scientologist, you know? Beyond help.
I’m wondering why George is left out of thumbnails
14:41 During hat interrogation scene, the actor tied in the chair was so scared due to Heath's great performance that he forgot his line, and apparently the same happened to Michael Caine when they first acted the dinner scene and Heath got out the elevator. They hadn't even met by this point, and the sudden Joker look with the performance was a real shock to Caine.
The final speech from Gordon never fails giving you goosebumps. This movie was amazing in the theater btw.
Katie Holmes didn't want to come back for the sequel .
"Popular" Batman films include: Batman, and Batman Returns (with Michael Keaton), followed by Batman Forever (with Vile Kilmer), and Batman and Robin (with George Clooney)... The last two not being very good (the Clooney one was a total flop to be honest). Then there's the NOLAN trilogy, that you're watching now. And after that there's Batman vs. Superman (with Ben Afleck) which is a sequel to THE MAN OF STEEL (so watch that first). Those two followed by Justice League (with the same actors, and make sure you see the SNYDER cut!!!). Those three were an attempt at a DC Universe (to compete with Marvel). But they then did a couple of Wonder Woman films, a couple of Aquaman films, a few Shazam/Black Adam films, and some Suicide Squad films... All not too bad, but it just amounted to nothing (I REALLY liked Batman vs. Superman though). Now in theaters, there The Batman with Robert Pattinson... Which I can't comment on since I haven't seen it yet.
The "Look at me!" was perfection
I'm a fan of the theory that The Joker actually slipped and told his true origin story at a moment where he wasn't actually talking to someone about his origin story. "If a truck full of soldiers blows up, nobody panics because that's according to plan" if The Joker got his scars because he was a soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq and got hit with an IED and saw all his friends die and nobody cared because it was all according to plan it would explain a lot. His gift for tactics, his knowledge of explosives, his comfort with firearms, his twisted nihilistic sense of justice. In this film Joker did as much damage to the mob as Dent and Batman. Even targeting the citizens of Gotham is a twisted justice for not caring about veterans. The only gap is his lack of fingerprints or DNA in the system at all under those circumstances.
One way I've heard this theory address Joker having no DNA or fingerprints in the system, is because he was some kind of undercover military agent. He got hurt and left for dead, his program denied his existence to begin with, but he faked his death and has all those survival and combat skills.
@@sebastianjoseph2828 SEAL team, or some kind of Delta Force operative. Detached to the CIA, yeah that fits nicely. He doesn't exist because the government erased him.