From day one, everyone knew Patrick Mahomes was special, on Chiefs 3-peat odds, Harbaugh | THE HERD
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Jimmy Johnson joins The Herd to tell Colin Cowherd what's so special about Patrick Mahomes, and when he knew that we were looking at a rare talent in the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback. He also tells Colin about the odds of the Chiefs earning a 3-peat with a Super Bowl win next season, and relives his own Super Bowl days in Dallas with the Cowboys. They also talk Jim Harbaugh, and what impact they believe he'll make on the Los Angeles Chargers next season.
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From day one, everyone knew Patrick Mahomes was special, on Chiefs 3-peat odds, Harbaugh | THE HERD
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Patrick Mahomes is having the type of career we thought Aaron Rodgers was going to have after 2011.
Great comment. But I would Remix it and say Mahomes has the type of career people act like Aaron Rodgers has had. Rodgers would get called the most Talented QB in the league year after year. And he played along side Tom Brady and Peyton Manning In there primes
Nailed it. Early career Rodgers was the first modern QB to have all of those accurate passer/scrambler technique.. It's just that the Packers did a poor job of keeping a somewhat consistent defense around him after Woodson, Peppers, and co. left the Packers
@Theb0YWh0lived1 it's likely based off of stats.. if you compare the individual stats. You'd see that Rodgers only had double digit INT seasons maybe twice in his entire career. And a lot of those seasons was were 4, 6 INTs. All the while throwing a ton of TDs.
@ejomena808 How much of ARods lack of postseason success might be related to his own arrogance?
So why didn't Rogers have that, what happened, just wondering
Everyone knew Mahomes would be special, which is why when he came into the NFL Colin ranked him at a C grade and I still remember it
Niners signed Bryan Hoyer in March 2017. They had the #3 pick. In April they drafted DE Solomon Thomas at 3. Chiefs moved up to 10 and took Mahomes. Media meatheads never focus on this. Shanahan and Lynch thought Hoyer was better than Mahomes. Basically Shanahan lost the SB in the 2017 draft.
*something like
Everyone didn’t know ..that’s why he went 10th overall..he was considered a raw talent with bad mechanics…Andy Reid and David Girardi really helped him become a hall of fame player
Yeah and the Bears decided to take the dumpster fire M.Trubisky....so obviously not everybody knew that he would be special
What's also funny is Skip Bayless was big on Mahomes in the draft, now Skip's a massive hater since Pat's chasing Brady
If there ever was a player in the NFL to three-peat, it would be Mahomes. He won't have a SB victory hangover like most players.
Unless Coors gives him too many drinks 😂
Kelce is hungover at all times so he won't feel any different either!
Work ethic and drive with a incredible back office, coaches and team mates. Destiny
😂😂😂@@jerokterojokke3356
@@Norseman311it's called a front office in the NFL
Analytics is ... "a cheat sheet for coaches that aren't too smart to play the percentages" ... bravo, Jimmy!
🥶😂😂
I worked for a Fortune 500 that went bankrupt because everyone at the top focused on analytics. No one could make decisions on their own.
@@felixrodriguez7423, and THAT is the common misunderstanding with analytics. Because 99% of what we call “analytics” is INFERENTIAL statistics, meaning statistics that give as CLUES as to how things could be. No statistic in the world can provide certainty, and both the interpretation and implementation of inferential statistics is subject to human decision and therefore to human error.
Jimmy Johnson is a national treasure. All the haters need to shut up.
Yes he is! Isn't interesting that his is respected and appreciated by all races.
Sorry but the OT rule isn’t physics its not hard for people to comprehend
and it has improved, both teams can touch the ball
Love Jimmy Johnson, if I was a player it would be an honor to play for him. He embodies all the qualities you want in a head coach. He should have never been fired.
Jerry Jones was jealous of Jimmy 💯 and Jimmy wasn't taking any of Jerry's BS 💯💯🤣😁😃🤣😁
Jimmy Johnson has forgotten more football than we'll ever know.
I was cautiously optimistic about Mahomes from day one. But after actually seeing him in a game, I knew he was special. In that meaningless game at the end of the year against the broncos his rookie season, there were a couple of throws where he's scrambling to the sidelines, and you're thinking "throw it away, throw it away" and he does the cardinal sin of throwing back across field...and he made it work. Both times. Could tell real quick he had a special arm, and an uncanny ability to make things happen when it seems hopeless.
My kids went to Texas Tech and we had season tickets, so we watched Mahomes for a couple of years when he was there. He had a really strong arm, but I said repeatedly that his crazy, undisciplined school yard play would never make it in the NFL. I’m starting to think I might have been wrong on that.
I still don’t think he will work out in the NFL but you might be on to something.
😂😂😂
You’re just now starting to think that? 😂
That's what I was gonna say 😂
I worked in security as an officer for the Chiefs and the Royals when we were drafting him. I seen his private workout, when i seen his private workout, Patrick blew everyone's socks off. It was nuts. As soon as we drafted him, everyone went nutts cause we hadnt drafted a qb in the first round since 84
Colin your misunderstanding or twisting what Mecole said. He said he blacked out not that he didn’t know it would be a game winning TD. He meant it was one of those moments we all have that for a moment we are overwhelmed by the surreal nature of the moment.
Exactly! Didnt you hear what nick said this morning! Hardman said he blacked out. He didn’t say he didn’t know the OT rules. Colin has poor listening skills😂
This is the obvious correct interpretation
Even if you thought 9ers get the ball back (eg. Not knowing the rules) there's like 2 seconds left and you also did just score a TD.
He blacked out for real.
And the only thing his body knew how to do was clutch the ball as hard as he could 😂
Just lying on the man to make Kyle and 49ers look better everyone got two years to know that rule
I could listen to Jimmy Johnson talk football all day with his insight and knowledge.
After 50+ years as a Chiefs fan it’s a great time to be an old man and a Chiefs fan
Jimmy was the man
There was a preseason game against the Titans in Mahomes’ rookie year when he snapped off a 50 yard bomb to Mecole Hardman like it was nothing - that’s when I knew this kid + Andy = unstoppable.
It was actually against the Falcons, 70 yard bomb to Hill
@@rowdymodeler1804 re-read his statement buddy. I went to Mahomes first preseason game against the Titans and I know exactly what he’s talking about.
Mecole blacked out from excitement
Monday morning quarterbacks are undefeated.
I remember Steve Young being the first really accurate passer/scrambler/ runner.... back when I was a pre-teen, and Elway was there too. But Elway was a pretty solid dude. He'd truck you here and there. Mahomes is this modern QB who is the evolution of such prototype. He runs more than ppl realize. It's obviously overshadowed by his brilliant passing in or outside of the pocket
There was another before that.. Fram Tarkenton
The elite accurate passer/scrambler/runner tree is... Tarkenton, Staubach, Young, and Mahomes. They are the rarest of the rare.
As I recall, the part of the Hershel Walker trade that was genius was when Jerry Jones said Minn could have their players back if they wanted, otherwise cowboys would keep Walker AND those other players. Took Minn for a ride, and he said so when they made the trade !
im older now...KC resident...man i like Jimmy...hes seems like a repentent man a good man.
Great Interview !
didn't he say he'll take herbert over him?
The Steelers had a lot of injuries, which cost them a good chance of 3-peating. Opened the door for the Raiders.
Everyone but Colin lol. Colin was very skeptical and critical of Mahomes early
There is a whole video showing how many thought the Chiefs made a mistake.
Shannon Sharp blasted the pick 😅
@@frogfarmer2150and Skip Bayless was praising Mahomes
How ironic how the table has turned with Shay Shay & his old side kick!
@@PatClevenger0709omg really? 😮
If Mahomes didn’t run like a kid trying on new shoes, he’d be hailed as one of the best QB scramblers in the NFL.
Doesn’t matter what he looks like. He’s wicked fast and gets it done!
Lol stole that little saying huh? Can't remember where I already heard that
News, flash, he is.
@@charlie.ridgway86they said it about pacheco.
I don't care what it looks like as long as it's effective, which he is, AND keeps himself safe, which he does.
I saw that comment of his on quarterback and felt it was high praise …
Patrick is great because he played shortstop in baseball. He throws just like he did in baseball. He also has an extra sharp mind... He is totally about doing what ever it takes to win...
The Mahomes baseball/football thing going is pretty amazing to me, and I love it. My first sport is baseball, but I could totally see how an exceptional baseball arm could lead to other things in football if someone loved that sport as well. Patrick's father was a baseball player, so it all comes back in full circle.
I knew Mahomes would be special when I heard he was cooking Marcus Peter's in practice
On the OT coin flip, Mahomes was thinking about the old general's saying, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".
The annalitics are actually slightly over 50% for the win when talking the ball first. What this means, it's a pretty fair deal for whatever decision the coin toss winner chooses.
he is very special
that is why he comes to games on the short bus
There is a great reason why Andy Reid, against some advice from skeptics, said I want this guy at QB at all costs in the draft. And it's come to fruition tenfold this season, for not only the man he drafted, but for the coach who skeptics always said was a "loser" and "could never win the big one." Andy Reid 3 SB titles, Mahomes 3 SB titles. This is not only for these guys, but old school Chiefs players and fans who had to endure so much misery from previous generations of failed playoffs. Anyhow, good interview here!
Jimmy Johnson - Superbowl winning coach, who worked with Dan Marino and Troy Aikman, says Patrick Mahomes is one the greatest he's ever seen.
Patrick Mahomes: *Win's three superbowls*
Skip Bayless: "I'm still not sold."
When Collin started using UNCLE lol 😂 😂😂😂😂
Yeah...I'm a no go for that. That's Unc Shay Shay's thing. Let's leave it at that😊
I've been talking about this, too. I was so shocked 2-weeks ago when I first heard it. I've posted it in the chat a few times during "Nightcap". "Uncle" isn't as "cultural" as "Auntie" or "Play Cousin" but he did start using it after he & Unc started a busn relationship. "UNCLE COLIN"? It genuinely makes me want to hurl and it is for sure derivative of Shannon Sharp being GIVEN THE TITLE OF UNC. Shannon didn't just start calling himself that. Fans gave him that title.
We NOW Call-it; "SWIVEL 58"!)))
I have learned so much from Dr Berg
Coaches like Andy Reid, "remember"- STUFF!)))
This video title not really true. All the old videos been popping up in my feed and most people for most of his first season was reluctant to give it up. It was a lot of he has Hunt , Hill, Kelce , Watkins, Alex Smith had number 1 QBR in the league the year before. Stuff like that. a lot of analyst didn’t like Andy Reid taking him. If you go back and watch draft videos it was a lot of “they should have took Desean Watson” and “they have Pro bowler Alex Smith, they should have got him help” the only guy that was really on it right away was Nick Wright of course. There is videos of him saying Mahomes might be in the MVP race after his first Preseason game. Chris Carter and Coach Mangini said they wanted some of whatever he was smoking.
The thumbnail got me. Looks like Pat Mahomes speaks in this video. PSA: he doesn’t!
It was all Big 12 quarterbacks in last 2 Super Bowls!
Mecole Hardman %100 knew, stop with that, bro was just in shock he won, but there’s no circumstance where the niners kick a fg, the chiefs score and folks don’t know the game is over
I wouldn't be excited for any one of them 🤣
Tell them i was there in the age of Achilles, THE AGE OF MAHOMES.
Field vision : tap out
Two Unc’s now? This war Colin? Hahaha
Elite level clickbait with the thumbnail lmao
Where is Colin getting this idea that Hardman didnt know the OT rules? From everything the players have said they spoke about it A LOT as a team and understood both the rules and what them as a team were going to do. He's just making stuff up to fit his narrative
Everyone but Skip Bayless and Eric Mangini. They STILL don't get it.
That's so silly. Coaches run through a variety of situations in practice. Maybe every person on your team isn't aware of every single rule, but you'd want your starters to be aware of the basic overtime rules!
That's bowl eligable.
Lets not forget Jimmy Johnson picked Herbert over Mahomes.
Colin, stop saying Mecole didn't know the rule. Multiple team members said the Chiefs went over them numerous times with the team during the postseason.
Exactly he just said he 'blacked out' which under pressure of the moment is completely understandable.
Mecole wasn't in KC in preseason. But still he probably learned on the Jets or whenever post season started
Exactly
I knew exactly what Mecole meant ,why can’t Colin?
Harbaugh played for the Bears. That meant winning ugly, with great defense, great running, and a QB who doesn't much care about his body, to make a few big plays.
I think we see a cinderella story this season. I'm leaning, Lions, Bills or Dolphins
This OT thing is so tiring, just make it the same as college and get rid of the 2 point play part
3 - peat well it’s ONE GAME AT A TIME. Play every Game like it’s a Play Game.
Hardman knew the rules. He just blacked out, out of excitement about the catch.
From day one? Most of media chastised KC for the pick
HARD - MAN to SAY, ,,,
Sec media days. $12,000 suit. $8,000,000 picture. An alligator made with crayon.
Because it.acutually did. Post season. Last year's results. 2022. 2024 on ESPN
From day one absolutely no one thought Tom Brady was special.
Bradshaw admitted he couldn't read dfences 💯🤣 he said he'd just sling it down field 💯💯💯😁🤣😁🤣
i saw a video. The 49ers do knows the rules of the OT. and the player from the 49ers calling the toss do know the rules and the players and the coach of 49ers do knows the rules of the OT, i hear they talking about it when the OT started. i think they just make excuses that they doesnt know
From day 1 😂
Petition to have Colin stop calling himself uncle… there’s only one unc
No one is bringing up the Overtime decision based on how gassed the defenses were, neither were going to stop the other team from going down to the red zone at least. Of course it would make more sense to go 2nd and go for 2 if the first team got a TD.
Revisionist nonsense unless you show us the audio or video clip of you Or Jimmy or any other analyst telling us that prior to his draft Mahomes was going to be a superstar! Everyone is now just jumping on the bandwagon. (Except Kansas City of course)
It just tells you there is no sure fire QB pick in any draft
It's still largely a crapshoot and NFL execs still haven't really figured it out.
@@MichaelW969 exactly. But then Colin and his buddies wouldn’t be the geniuses they think they are
Thank you Buffalo for trading the pick!! 😂
@@legitdragon6202 Well that and some of the greatest seconds in nfl meme history lol
NO & Sean Payton knew..they tried to keep it a secret and draft Mahomes.that’s why KC moved up to draft Mahomes..
The glazing by Colin to protect Shanahan is crazy. There’s audio that shows the Chiefs knew the OT rules and audio that the 49ers defense knew the rules(Wilks told his guys and Shanahan dropped the ball), and there’s audio that the 49ers offense didn’t know.(49ers held chiefs to 19 in regulation when the last time they got 31 hung on their heads, the offense and special teams were to blame. Shanahan and Special teams coach should have been fired. Shanahan continues to show he can’t cut in the biggest game. Time for a change)
Correction 9 other teams didn't know that's why he was taken at # 10
The Cowboys nead an All Star Coaching Staff.
By day one do you mean after that year he sat behind Alex smith?
Sometimes, the "I want a raise" syndrome after back-to-back championships takes the form of assistant coaches getting more money by taking jobs elsewhere. That's what happened to the previous repeat champions, the 2004 Patriots. They had their OC and DC hired away for head coaching positions, and had -- by Brady/Belichick standards -- a couple of down years before even returning to the Super Bowl.
Jimmy chose every other QB but the only one who won a super bowl. We got to give Russell W more credit then that.
But Colin you said that they figured him out
It's 5 and 11.
Just put up face value. The South eastern conference. Leaders in community College and things of that nature.
Jimmy's my favorite coach. I also like to fish. Only 3 more years b4 I can think like a fish.
The Niners defense were gassed going into overtime. Kyle might have chosen possession first to give the defense rest, knowing they'd need it. Now giving an extra down to Mahomes is near suicide. But Niners had a chance to win, tie or have a third possession.
Everyone except the Bears…..
But also after a tap out. Shake hands. It's oka.
23% probability as of now.
Andy griffin
Let me tell you the problem with analytics.....it eliminates intuition. Be present, live in the moment.
Now people are saying he is special but when he was drafted people was not liking it he was labeled a project
Goes for Alabama hire. New head coach.
Uh.. I remember people saying he's immature, undisciplined, lacks fundamentals, makes bad decisions, and only had success because he was lucky... I don't remember hardly anyone saying KC made the right choice when they got him - I remember people saying Alex Smith was better....
Everybody didn’t kno shi if they did he woulda went r1 pick 1.
Last year's results are not a 50/50 proposition. Sure they are.
no Jimmy, 20-30 years ago coaches were wayyyyyyyyy too conservative on 4th down. They *did not* know the percentages. Of course, a good coach takes the stats, which come from a large sample size, and apply it appropriately to the opponent that day, the situation etc etc.
I'm glad we have you here to correct the 2 time Superbowl champion coach on how play calling should be.
UF in Jordan Brand community College is big time. Nick Saban is the real deal. Now retired. Community College is a big deal in the western world. Sure.
Jimmy was so amazing that Jerry has spent 30 years failing with his son and a black dude helping him.
Uncle Colin? Is he giving himself his own nickname? 😂weird
If everyone knew about mahomes then why was you picking against him so much?
OU 6-7. Texas 6-7
John Dorsey drafted mahomes
Yeah that's true but Veatch scouted him and bugged Andy to get him every chance he got.
Nort bowl eligible. Say's who??? To be continued on cable.
If bears 🐻 drafted him over Mitch with Naggy ? There is no Mahomes 😮nuts ah 😂life luck and hard work 😅if Brady was a. Jaguar ? Kelce a panther 🐆
Not sure which one. Hand signal. Tapping out clearly. UT got a lot better in the off-season. Uf did as well. Not the expectation here.