I have a question I'm looking for a rc drift car 1/28 I have lots of experience with rc cars. And I would prefer rwd and large steering angle and I don't know what one to get
@@kaydenmosley538 There are many good cars nowadays. At the top we have DriftArt 2, GLD, Atomic DRZ V2 and XRX DPA. BMR-X is also good but it's 1/24 for using scale model as the body. The first choice is DriftArt but it could be difficult to find (try helidirect). DRZ V2 and GLD are more widely available. My personal favourite is the GLD but it takes a lot of expensive upgrades to work right. Hope this helps.
@@BeaversHobby thank you so much I am very grateful I do love both the drift art and the atomic but before I stumbled apon your channel I picked out the hgd1. Is that a good car to start with
@@kaydenmosley538 HGD1 is also good. I's not as advanced as other cars and might take some tinkering to make it work. The good thing about it is that you can use springs and differential directly from Mini-Z AWD so it's easier to find parts and tune than other cars.
@@BeaversHobby thank you so much but after some more thinking I think I will go with the atomic drz v2 but I have having troubles finding what electronics to put in it so I just got the same electronics as your normal one hopeing they fit in the v2. Unless you have so recommendations.?
To move the steering rod to the upper hole on the servo arm what I did was put a bit of CA glue on a thin toothpick, smear it into the hole that’s too large and then gave it a drop of accelerator. After that the stock screw tightened into the hole nice and tight.
@@nado121 I went and check the Caddix, is this the one with a small camera and a box? If so then yes, it'll work. The only thing that will be too big is the full size action cam like GoPro Hero or Yi4K. A small FPV system will work just fine. A cube camera like GoPro session will also work.
Dude, I love what you do. I love your little deadpan sarcastic criticisms too (no, there is no drag brake) haha. Your rooftop would make an awesome track if you could resurface it!
That'll do. I'll test later which CVD you need. The 10.5mm for Mini-Z wide chassis might be too short for Mini-Z diff. Usually I use the long CVD bit.ly/3m1i4bd with Mini-Z ball diffs.
Could the stick drive train be the reason my car stops responding to accelerator and only leaves me with steering control and no forward or backward movement after a short drive? Is someone freezing/locking.
@@shrimperlincs3395 Do you hear anything when pulling the throttle, like a beeping noise or the motor is trying to spin? You can also try and move the wheels by hand and see if the wheels can spin. If the wheels can spin alright, it's the electronics. If the wheels are too tight to spin, it's the drivetrain.
So a big thanks for this 👍🏾 loved the video so enjoy another subscriber! Bought 3 x 7.4V 600mah batteries to go with this ... And the full metal upgrade kit with shocks and wheels ... And looking for a decent set of drift tyres. Please please please do more with this and i'll follow your journey! Need to make this a decent drifter 😂
Was it worth adding full metal parts. Didn't it make it a lot heavier ¿? I was also looking bigger battery but stock battery last 18 mins ?? Seem like fair good run time .. haven't got mine shipping is slow .. hopefully couple weeks it turn up
Thank you for the review. I did order 2 of this model and I wonder if can 2 same rc cars can be running in the same time ? If not are there any solution ? Thank you
Yes, they can run together at the same time. You just need to start them up one at a time. Here's how to do it: Turn the first car on then turn the first transmitter on and move the steering wheel. Once that's done do the same on the 2nd car. If you have the 3rd, repeat the process on a new one. Do this every time you want to run because this car binds to the transmitter at start up.
Beaver help, the gear that is supposed to spin the shaft (the one beside the metal pinion at 4:45 ) doesn't grip the shaft anymore so the car cant run. Is it supposed to be glued?
That gear isn't supposed to be glued but it has a notch that goes on the shaft and locks it into place. Try turning it around to feel the notch and it should slide into there. In the previous versions it coupled with the rear pinion gear that goes into the gearbox. In the new version it's locked into the shaft.
Just bought one of these bad boys. Waiting for it to arrive. I want to upgrade the diffs, front to a one way and rear to a fixed. Mini z ones or copies. And I right in thinking I only need the longer front drive shafts and I can use standards in the rear? If so is the an up to date list of where I can get the parts in the UK. Is there a steering angle mod you can do? I like the look of the carbon chassis and upper deck are they a direct replacement?? Seen some carbon shock towers to? Thanks 🙏🏾
The one way I got from Aliexpress is really good. However if you don't want to wait a very long time then get a genuine Mini-Z parts within the UK. And yes, you'll need long drive shafts for the front with one way. Both can be found in the UK from www.rcm8.net/ . At the back you don't have to get a solid axle, you can just lock (glue) the original axle and it'll work. You don't have to change the rear swing shafts either. The steering mod: follow this tutorial from 5:38 ruclips.net/video/zB3pUN9XiSw/видео.html . Caron chassis is not recommended. It'll mess up your ride height. However feel free to try. Carbon shock towers are good. It should be in aliexpress so I don't know if there's any UK stock.
Hi, I’ve just received my car, and I have a problem with the car only steering and having no throttle. I’ve tried everything, nothing works. Do u know a way to bind the receiver again?
If the steering works but no throttle, make sure the battery is fully charged. Then check if the Throttle D/R knob is turned to the right direction. Hold the throttle and turn the knob to see if the motor runs, I think it should turn clockwise for max speed. The way to bind this receiver is turning the transmitter on, turn the car on then move the steering on the transmitter.
@@BeaversHobby Hello, I’ve charged the battery fully (I even checked on a lipo checker). I also tried turning the dual rate, that also does nothing. Lastly, if I turn on the car and the radio, it doesn’t bind automatically. I need to every time turn the steering wheel. Then it is bound, but still no throttle. I was thinking that the receiver maybe is broken.
@@Tiickel You'll have to bind it manually every time you turn the car on so that's normal. However I think your receiver-ESC combo is faulty. Please contact the shop you bought it from for replacement.
Hey Beavers, I got my first RC car as an adult for my 30th. Got a K989 and I've been watching all of your videos since. Do you think the recommended parts get re-stocked often on Banggood? The differentials and pinion gears are currently showing as out of stock to the UK
The pinion gears get restock pretty often but I don't recommend the differentials. It's better to get the long CVD 25mm or 27mm and use Mini-Z AWD differentials instead. As for the spare parts, take a look in aliexpress too. The shops there restock faster than banggood.
I have this version...its a great car...i ordered some metal diffs,but not sure the plastic gear will hold up..on the fence on installing...i may just do plastic diff fix and add some grease first...thanks for sharing
i got the k989 few days ago and it has the same upgraded parts as this 284131 expect old transmitter and protocol drive train is sticky of course, i watched your tutorial on how to make it smoother but after doing it my diffs doesn't work properly anymore :|. they do work but has annoying noise like if it was broken or something. also filed the suspension and now the wheels is rolling over and it's undrivable, great job by me. i think i've done it wrong since i'm new to this kind of stuff. i ordered new metal parts as will as drift tires to replace the broken ones and they should arrive in few days and will be ready for drifting soon :)
It'll take some practice to get everything right. Don't get discouraged, stuffs will break from fixing some times and it'll be all the experience you'll get. Best of luck with the project!
Great video, I got myself one of these as well! How did you remove the pinion gear in the end? I can't pull it off for the life of me and I wonder whether there's an easy way to do it.
I believe you put the differential in the opposite side. Open it up both front and rear, swap the gear to the other side and it'll go the opposite direction.
It's the same car as K989 and I already did all of that except the battery. We'll see how this goes. I'll probably make one like the 2021 drift edition but with touring instead.
@@JGladd To get more speed the most effective ways are either changing the motor pinion to a bigger one or upgrade it with brushless with 5600KV or 7500KV motor (to still make it controllable) or 9500KV and above if you only want straight line speed because these can't really take corners. The safest upgrade battery that you can use with the original ESC is GNB HV 2S 7.6V. bit.ly/3ov4DDz If you increase the capacity you might have to remove the battery bracket and hold the battery down with double sided tape or glue, which is not recommended for safety reasons. bit.ly/3CeFIZK
Hi Beaver, my 284131 finally arrived!!! Love the looks except the rear wheels sit too far forward in the wheel arch. I see there is an option to move the rear axle back a few millimetres. How would that work, does the drive train accomodate that or do I need extra long parts? As always, thanks for your input.
There's no need for extra part. Check the gear bag, you'll see a long pinion gear for the centre shaft, replace the original one with that to extend the wheelbase 4mm (98mm to 102mm). Here's a video for that. ruclips.net/video/BK-9SNIuYlY/видео.html
@@BeaversHobby Thank you.. setting it back is too far back now! Just needed 100mm and it would be prefect. As it's apart, I'll sort the linkages out following your informative videos. Thanks for all you do
Hello, I recently purchased the vehicle in this video and the k969 after watching your excellent tutorial, modification, and review videos. I've been having fun racing and drifting in my basement on a tight mesh carpet. I would like to pre-purchase some spare parts to have on hand in case of breakage. I live in the US where there isn't many parts available so I will have to make an overseas purchase. This is the reason I would like to pre-purchase some parts so that it I am not down for weeks in case of breakage. What parts can you recommend to have on hand? Also I would like to know with mostly carpet driving should I avoid stock replacement parts all together and just upgrade parts like differentials and steering components now? Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
The centre shaft (prop shaft) pinions are what wear out the fastest following by the differentials. There's a way to make it durable by replacing the pinion with metal bit.ly/3m1i4bd . As for the differentials, first change the CVD to long CVD like these bit.ly/3m1i4bd then you can use any Mini-Z AWD compatible differential, it'll be much more durable than WLtoys' part. You can get Atomic AMZ or GLA ball differential too if you want hi-performance differentials. Otherwise a standard Mini-Z AWD plastic gear differential already good for touring. You can find these parts in Mini-Z racing shop like kenonhobby.com , it's based the US.
@@BeaversHobby thank you for the reply. I will definitely look into these part upgrades. I am finding this vehicle performs pretty well stock but obviously not like the videos that I am watching on the internet with such smooth drifting control. I have moved the steering linkage to the upper hole on the servo bell. And have used the included parts to move the rear differential back and extend the wheelbase. These changes have helped drifting control but I think my next step would be to improve the tires and add a drift gyro. Is there a brand tires and wheels you can recommend? Do mini z tires and wheels fit directly on the 969? Also the drift to gyro you recommend in your videos I have found on the internet but has a long wait time for shipping. Will the AGFRC GY01 V3 be compatible with the stock receiver, speed control combo? I appreciate your help guiding me in the right direction on those things.
@@cmkpikes Mini-Z AWD wheels and Mini-Z tyres are compatible with WLtoys. Make sure you got the AWD wheels and not RWD wheels because they are different. Here's my review from K989 which go into more details ruclips.net/video/TnhriaSSfSA/видео.html (K989, K969, 284131 etc. are all the same chassis). As for the gyro, unfortunately nowadays the new batch comes with JST-SH plug on the servo so none of the gyro will plug into it directly. You will have to convert the plug no matter which one you get. The gyro is generally compatible as it just intercepts the signal and send a corrected steering signal to the servo. It'll work as long as you get the one that has a dial on the unit. The reason being the stock electronics doesn't have a VR channel to control gain.
Hobbyking has 300-450 Turnigy nanotech. 300mAh will fit without modifications, 450 will need some. You can also get GNB battery from many sources like Banggood. I use the hi-voltage series. 350mAh bit.ly/3ov4DDz seems to be out of stock right now so here's 300mAh bit.ly/3ihR6g3 . None of GNB will have the plug you need for this car (JST RCY) but you can convert it to anything so there's no problem.
It's not reliable even in this new version. It'll need some fixing to work and will still wear out quickly. I ended up replacing the diffs with Mini-Z diffs.
@@philipbrits2984 Yes, those are what I use. You'll also need the long CVD for it to work because this is a wide chassis and on stock setup they just extend the outdrive instead of making longer CVD shaft. By the way I just checked and Mini-Q diff is out of stock right now. You can get this instead. It'll be all metal diff. www.banggood.com/custlink/KGmCaD6y0r
You will need to install your own ESC. This is the tutorial ruclips.net/video/BSt7U-yOa4Q/видео.html I didn't use NB4 in the video because it hadn't come out at that time.
Good video! I'm about to purchase two of the WLToys version so I can force people to race me. Am I correct in understanding that I can swap a car body onto the truck version? I was going to buy one car and one truck just for the difference, but it seems the truck has better upgrades already and I'd hate to buy something not as good over a body.
The ones I got from Aliexpress are really good www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001671065507.html You will have to use them with long CVD though. Here's banggood link bit.ly/3m1i4bd but you should be able to find the same on Aliexpress too. You can also buy only the front one way and glue the original rear diff to make a lock diff if you want to save a bit of money.
I have this car with this problem...turning circle to left is very tight but to right is not...radio trim is centered and servo arm in correct pos. 🤔 any ideas thanks.
After you centre everything check if the servo can swing both sides equally, if not then re-center the trim then take the servo out and re-position the servo horn. If the swing to both sides are equal then it's the problem with the wheels, tyres and the suspension. See if you get the tyres contact the same on both sides. If not you might have to put M2 screws in the lower arms to adjust the ride height and contact. Also check out stage 1 and 2 for how to inspect and fix the car. ruclips.net/video/TnhriaSSfSA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/QAGTXo70MmU/видео.html
Is there a way to reverse the throttle? Mine came new with the throttle control backwards. Everything looks to be installed correctly. Thank you for your videos. They are very helpful
Check where the problem is first. If you can pull the trigger, push it to go one way then come back to centre again and push to go the other way then the problem is at the motor wire. You can swap the polarity easily by using a tweezer to push the tap on the motor plug down and pull the wires out then you can swap them. If you pull the motor plug out you'll se one side with the lock and the other side with the exposed terminal. Do it on the side of the terminal. It doesn't have to be a tweezer, anything thing enough can push that terminal down and you can pull the wire out. If the problem is not at the motor wire, the wiring inside the transmitter is reversed. You will have to swap 2 of the 3 wires in the throttle potentiometer. Not sire which one so you will have to experiment which of the 2 wires give you reverse throttle.
It will over time. There are 2 solutions, 1 is to upgrade the drivetrain with metal bit.ly/3w7XChB so the centre shaft pinion gears are metal and the spur gear as well so the motor gear won't eat it that fast. Or replace the motor pinion with a plastic one. I recommend upgrading the gears to metal because it will prolong the car's life as the pinions are known to wear out very quickly.
Out of the box with the drivetrain is very sticky and you will have to pull the throttle a lot to start rolling. Also, if the DR knob is turned down then the throttle will take a lot to start responding. You can disassemble the car and run only with the motor outside to see if the deadzone is still there. If so then there might be a problem with your electronics.
Hey, what are the essential upgrades that I need to do for it to last longer? Also, could you recommend any good drift tires and wheels available on aliexpress? Thanks
The current version of this car is really solid and you don't have to upgrade it to improve the durability. Not that you can anyway because the differential size is different so you can only get the direct replacement. As for the drift wheels & tyres, it can be expensive on aliexpress. I recently tried a cheap set and it's not that good (also the order is wrong), feel free to try it though www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005025237818.html . I recommend getting original Mini-Z AWD wheels, narrow (front) 1.5mm offset with Kyosho MDT001 tyres. You can find them on your local Kyosho dealer or banzaihobby.com and rcmart.com.
Sorry for the later reply. Turn the car on first, then the transmitter and move the steering wheel. If that doesn't connect to the car then something is defective and you should contact the shop.
The motor size is called 1410 or 1625 depending on the brand. I usually recommend a budget motor: Surpass Rocket V2 for Mini-Z www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002433453641.html 3500KV or 5500KV is the most optimal. As for the ESC, can't go wrong with DasMikro V3 www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003527519554.html . Here's one of my build videos. ruclips.net/video/j9pO35iaqfo/видео.html Don't worry, K989 is the same chassis. Just different body.
@@BeaversHobby I would love a gyro installing. I am not very good with soldering however. I was going to ask if I send you my car can you install it I pay you cash??
Yes, it's removeable. However it is a part of the rear gearbox that props the gearbox in place. Originally (in K989, K969) this was a small plate so you can cut all the diffuser out to keep the car functioning properly.
@@yasxn3621 I highly recommend Mini-Z parts especially the tyres, they are well balanced and easy to drive. Rims bit.ly/2WSecRf Drift tyres bit.ly/2I3a74k
Awesome video. Can't wait for you to modify it. Always wanted to build a 1:10 rwd drift car for myself but it was way to expensive. Wanted to ask if it's possible to make this rwd and fit the Mini-Z R32 body on it. Is it realistic to keep it under 100€ with a different differential, the Mini-Z body and new tires? Best regards ✌🏻
Unfortunately the Mini-Z R32 body is for 94mm wheelbase narrow chassis but this car is 98mm wheelbase ultra wide chassis so it won't fit. However if you modify it to RWD you can cut and extend the chassis so a 1/24 scale model will fit.
@@BeaversHobby thanks for the reply. If seen someone do it but I'm not sure how they did it. When you modified yours with the Camero ZL1 was it a Mini-Z also?
Here you go. Wheels www.srcc-devils.de/FELGEN/AWD-BZ-GLA-etc/WA-S603W-S6-AWD-Rim-Narrow-1-5-White.htm?a=article&ProdNr=A1664&p=1108 Tyres www.srcc-devils.de/GL-RACING-WORLDWIDE-SHOP/GL-Drift/MDT001-KYOSHO-AWD-Mini-Z-MDT-001-Reifen-1-24-Drift-8-5mm-4-.htm?a=article&ProdNr=5302&p=1221
Hi Beaver thanks a lot for your fantastic channel and all the information you share with the public. I want to get my fist 1/28 car. I have a lot of experience and know RCs very well, just never tried anything this small. I want to put together some kind of rally car, possibly a kit, certainly with custom electronics, something that can cope with dust and can be used outside. Any advice? Also I need advice about ESC and brushless combo, something on banggood? And TX and RX what is the best micro receiver and what TX will it use? Tnx
For using outside your best bet is Wltoys K989 or 284131. Unfortunately they don't sell this car as kit so you'll have to work it from RTR. Any transmitter will work providing you have a small enough receiver to fit inside. The antenna-less receivers from Sanwa or Flysky Noble (FGr4S) will do nicely especially the Noble because it's dust proof. If you want a small receiver then you'll need Futaba with S-FHSS/T-FHSS, Sanwa with FH3/FH3 or Flysky Noble. These transmitters have receiver (or compatible receiver in case of Futaba and Sanwa) with JST-ZH plug so you can use Atomic or GL brushless ESC directly without plug conversation. As for the motor, take a look at BYRC on AliExpress as they have enclosed brushless so you can run outside safely.
@@BeaversHobby Hi thank you so much for your answer I really appreciate your help. Today I bought the 284131, although I don't like the body. But the car will slowly be upgraded. For now I want to see test drive the car etc, but I the NB4 seems a solid choice for less money. What do you think about Furitek brushless combo? I watch your review and to me they seem pretty good as a company. Also have you ever heard of Carisma GT 1/24 series? The GT24B (kit version) would be my first choice to drive outside but due to Covid regulations etc they will not ship to Europe.
@@flyingformation1878 From what I know Carisma GT24 series is really good. There are RTR around in Europe but as you checked, the kit won't ship to us so that's a big disappointment. Anyway, best of luck with the project!
@@flyingformation1878 The Furitek is very good good but I think it's too expensive to get for only 1 car because of the bluetooth module. If you have many cars then it's more economical because you can share that module.
@@BeaversHobby Tnx again for your help. I checked the BYRC and it seems a very good deal (Combo + Pcard for 29$) it's great to me. For now I will stick to standard electronics and 1 car because I need to see how good they are to begin with etc but I want two or three cars (drifting - touring - and my off road project with the Carisma). I hope you don't mind if I ask some other questions in the future! Thanks mate.
Centre shaft pinions are a must, these wear out quickly. bit.ly/32IBbxJ If you have spare change, get long CVD as well so you can upgrade the diffs easier later. bit.ly/3m1i4bd
Do you think if you extended the wheelbase to 102 mm the rear diffuser would be able to stay on the car? And are the wheel wells big enough to accommodate the rear tires if they were moved back the 4 mm?
Yes, it will still be on the chassis. That part used to be a small piece of plastic to prop up the gearbox, now it's full diffuser. But with the original body the diffuser will stick out a bit more.
@@BeaversHobby okay thanks for the information. I would check myself but it is a pre-purchase question. I would like to get one and set it up for a touring car and would like to extend the wheelbase to 102 mm. Also do you think the tires will fit inside of the wheel arch wells? When I extended the wheelbase on the 989 the tire still fit without rubbing in the body because they have extended arches. Do you think this will be the same for the 28413? Or will modification to the wheel arches be needed to accommodate the tires?
@@BeaversHobby I received my 284131 newer version of the wltoys cars. I also have the newer version of the 989 that has the same newer style electronics and motor with the metal pinion gear. I noticed that on the 284131 truck that the receiver speed control and motor run extremely hot. The 989 gets warm but this will burn your fingers if you touch the motor. The gears seem to spin freely with no drag and I have made sure I am not over tightening the wheels to cause drag. Like I said this one runs much hotter than my other WL toys car. I noticed the body is more enclosed on this newer truck. But I have ran through a full battery charg with the body off and it still gets extremely warm. Any ideas what could possibly be the case? No other changes have been made to the car except for changing the stock tires for the PN racing radial tires. One other question I have is the 989 is set up with locked rear differential and open front differential with drift tires. I am having a problem where when I release the throttle the back tires just lock up making the car not control how I would like. I installed a one-way differential on the front but gave me the same effect that I do not care for and have removed it. With the open differential the front does not lock up when the throttle is released but the rear does. I thought about moving the one way differential to the rear but I don't think it's designed to be able to do that. The differential would have to be flipped around in the gearbox but then the rear tires would spin the wrong direction. I noticed this can be solved by flipping both of the differentials around and reversing the direction of the motor. Have you ever tried to put the differentials in backwards or flipped over 180°, however you would say it. And then reversing the direction of the motor. Can the motor rotation be reversed by reversing the wire leads to the motor? In the end I am trying to get the same effect that a one-way differential gives where when you release the throttle the tires just spin freely but on the back. Anyway you think I could achieve this?
@@cmkpikes A touring car's motor is usually hotter than drift so as long as it doesn't stop because of the heat it'll be alright. As for the one way. It's like bicycle's rear wheel. That's how it works. If you swap the side or put it in the back, it won't work. If you want to do the swap, do both standard diff and then reverse motor polarity. It'll give you the same driving direction.
The pinion gears for centre shaft are still fragile so get that. The diff needs fixing so I suggest getting a Mini-Z or Mini-Q diff is better. And then you'll need the long CVD. bit.ly/3m1i4bd (if it's out of stock, check out Aliexpress) That's pretty much it. As long as you don't crash it at the wheel at full speed nothing else should break.
@@visualdosage234 Spares are on Aliexpress right now. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003674363056.html As for the long CVD, here's the old one. ruclips.net/video/BLAHvTAa6nM/видео.html I also have the same but with all the upgrades in 2021. ruclips.net/video/j9pO35iaqfo/видео.html
The diffs are badly made. You can either fix the diffs along with the drivetrain like this ruclips.net/video/TnhriaSSfSA/видео.html . Or replace the diffs like I did in t\his video.
It's on banggood and aliexpress. Banggood seems to be out of stock right now so here's the Aliexpress link. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003674363056.html I recommend using Mini-Z AWD differential in conjunction with the long CVD www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003399026933.html for better durability and fitting. Also with the long CVD you can use any Mini-Z AWD compatible diffs like ball diffs from GL Racing GLA and get the best performance out of it.
I just got mine and it turns on, the lights turn on, the controller turns on, the steering works but it won’t move at all. And suggestions or should I just return ot
Make sure the battery is fully charged or have at least 6.8V. Check the TH DR (throttle dual rate) dial on the transmitter. It's the bottom dial. Turn it up or the other way and see if the throttle works. If not, check the motor connection if the wires are OK and not cut. If nothing works the car might be faulty so you'll have to contact the shop for a replacement or refund.
Yes, it will. It's the same car after all. You'll have to adjust the body posts a bit and it'll fit. I believe the front and rear bumper are now available too so you can fully convert K989 to 284131.
No, they are not adjustable. You'll have to mod it. I have done adjustable linkage mod here, it's an old video but the method is the same. Just change the M1.5 I use for M2 screw and it'll be much stronger. ruclips.net/video/9OlVz1dXJNc/видео.html
@@avneet911 I find front toe out about 1.5-2 degree has good effect. As for the gyro, it's not necessary for AWD drifting but it helps. Personally it find it fighting me no matter how low I set so I end up not using it at all. Other upgrades are a good set of tyres, front one way and rear locked. That's pretty much it.
@@K4iotEch Yes, you can file or mill the original gears down to something like 2mm peck and use the motor gear from Tamiya Mini 4WD (or a plastic 8T gear) over it then glue it in. I did that and it lasted much, much longer than the original plastic gear.
Personally I don't recommend the velcro because you will have to line it up every time you play and if you use it for touring or anywhere with dust, the velcro will get dirty very quickly. What is the car for? Is it for touring or drifting. If it's for touring then there's no better and more secure option than using clips. However you can make it easier by putting a small cable tie on the loop at the end so you can pull the clip out easier. If it's for drifting then the magnet mount system is also good.
This is a better car just because the transmitter is better. If you can verify that the K969 that you are getting is the new batch with the same transmitter then get the K969.
@@Victor2K23 Here's what you have to do to make it fit ruclips.net/video/-gCJEXXWBEo/видео.html . Don't worry about the name, it's the same car. You can only use the new Mini-Z NSX that is 98mm with 0mm and 1mm offset narrow wheels with this car. Here's body compatibility list with offset. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v2sVg072T2Xl4tvEEy_E7kiDdmen-gRIWWm-pIp1VXY
You can mod a transmitter that has PPM output with multiprotocol and use XK X420 protocol. If you want a ready made one I'm afraid there is no pistol grip or car transmitter, only air transmitter like this bit.ly/3BN6Qik . I also have a series showing how to configure it to use with cars. ep1 Unboxing, basic setup ruclips.net/video/vSRR67jMhzI/видео.html ep2 Self-centering stick ruclips.net/video/wKuwODFd338/видео.html
Hello Beaver, great review. I am fan of your RC car videos they are so amazing and easy to understand. I am beginner and want to start this hobby, Can you please create a drift car build series with this car. Also if possible share parts from either aliexpress/bangood.
They are the same car underneath. Choose whichever body you like because the new batch of K989 should come with the same upgraded transmitter already. Or choose the 284131 if you are not sure which transmitter you will get.
@@BeaversHobbyHi Beaver, Do you know if the K989 has now received said upgrades? I don't like the body styles of the 284131 or 284010, but would buy one of those and try and change the shell if the K989 has not received the upgrades. Thanks in advance for your reply 😊
@@BeaversHobby The K series now comes with the new V2 transmitter. So am I right in thinking that the only difference between the k989 and the 284131 is the shell and lights?
Unfortunately it is not compatible with Mini-Z Skyline bodies. Those cars are 94mm wheelbase narrow bodies while this car is 98-102mm wheelbase ultra wide chassis. It might fit some of the 1/24 scale model although you will need to check the wheelbase on the model if it's 98 or 102mm.
Hobbywing Quicrun 1625 should fit the tall bit of the cockpit nicely. You'll have to change the transmitter too following this guide ruclips.net/video/BSt7U-yOa4Q/видео.html . Still, have you fixed the drivetrain before running, it's so sticky that it might burn the electronics out.
Does anyone know if the stock plastic diffs have any oil or grease in them? I watched videos on how to fix stock diffs,but not sure if they were lubed from factory...thanks
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Use coupon code: BG48fc5d for discount. I tested it and it gave me $12 discount.
I have a question I'm looking for a rc drift car 1/28 I have lots of experience with rc cars. And I would prefer rwd and large steering angle and I don't know what one to get
@@kaydenmosley538 There are many good cars nowadays. At the top we have DriftArt 2, GLD, Atomic DRZ V2 and XRX DPA. BMR-X is also good but it's 1/24 for using scale model as the body. The first choice is DriftArt but it could be difficult to find (try helidirect). DRZ V2 and GLD are more widely available. My personal favourite is the GLD but it takes a lot of expensive upgrades to work right. Hope this helps.
@@BeaversHobby thank you so much I am very grateful I do love both the drift art and the atomic but before I stumbled apon your channel I picked out the hgd1. Is that a good car to start with
@@kaydenmosley538 HGD1 is also good. I's not as advanced as other cars and might take some tinkering to make it work. The good thing about it is that you can use springs and differential directly from Mini-Z AWD so it's easier to find parts and tune than other cars.
@@BeaversHobby thank you so much but after some more thinking I think I will go with the atomic drz v2 but I have having troubles finding what electronics to put in it so I just got the same electronics as your normal one hopeing they fit in the v2. Unless you have so recommendations.?
Yay! I LOVE YOUR REVIEWS! Your voice is really nice to listen to!!!
You're funny 😂
To move the steering rod to the upper hole on the servo arm what I did was put a bit of CA glue on a thin toothpick, smear it into the hole that’s too large and then gave it a drop of accelerator. After that the stock screw tightened into the hole nice and tight.
This is the best review of this car I saw. Thank you for your expertise and the tips to upgrade this car.
Great honest review, thank you. Look forward to receiving this truck and checking all the fixes from your comprehensive list. Much appreciated.
We need to make a drift set up for this too
Someone pointed out in the last video about the light being good for FPV. FPV drift sounds like a really good project.
@@BeaversHobby do you think it could handle a 29g caddx vista or would that be way too heavy?
@@nado121 I went and check the Caddix, is this the one with a small camera and a box? If so then yes, it'll work. The only thing that will be too big is the full size action cam like GoPro Hero or Yi4K. A small FPV system will work just fine. A cube camera like GoPro session will also work.
@@nado121 it would handle that weight no problems. It wouldn't affect driving much if not any
@@BeaversHobby go with tinywhoop cam+vtx
Thanks for the discount code brother ! ... Ordered mine ! can't wait
Dude, I love what you do. I love your little deadpan sarcastic criticisms too (no, there is no drag brake) haha. Your rooftop would make an awesome track if you could resurface it!
Thanks for all the advice you put in this video. Very helpful.
Finally another review :)
For the servo's arm, don't order new ball heads, just use a little bit of crazy glue, it works perfectly
ok buddy you finally earned my sub. love your k989 vids
I have one and yes the drivetrain is very sticky!! I might swap them with Mini-Z diffs. Very informative video!
That'll do. I'll test later which CVD you need. The 10.5mm for Mini-Z wide chassis might be too short for Mini-Z diff. Usually I use the long CVD bit.ly/3m1i4bd with Mini-Z ball diffs.
Could the stick drive train be the reason my car stops responding to accelerator and only leaves me with steering control and no forward or backward movement after a short drive? Is someone freezing/locking.
@@shrimperlincs3395 Do you hear anything when pulling the throttle, like a beeping noise or the motor is trying to spin? You can also try and move the wheels by hand and see if the wheels can spin. If the wheels can spin alright, it's the electronics. If the wheels are too tight to spin, it's the drivetrain.
Great video man, ur content is always informational
I just ordered one, thank you for the coupon ☺️
Excellent review with great and extremely useful information!
Thanks BEV i ordered two they coming this week
So a big thanks for this 👍🏾 loved the video so enjoy another subscriber!
Bought 3 x 7.4V 600mah batteries to go with this ... And the full metal upgrade kit with shocks and wheels ... And looking for a decent set of drift tyres.
Please please please do more with this and i'll follow your journey! Need to make this a decent drifter 😂
This is the same car as K989 so here's my 2021 drift setup ruclips.net/video/j9pO35iaqfo/видео.html .
Was it worth adding full metal parts. Didn't it make it a lot heavier ¿? I was also looking bigger battery but stock battery last 18 mins ?? Seem like fair good run time .. haven't got mine shipping is slow .. hopefully couple weeks it turn up
The 600 mAh battery's seem to be fraud .. smaller and weight less than the 400 that come with car. Battery fraud is a way of life with China
Thanks for this video
I wish Wltoys could make a 1/10 exactly like the k989 with bigger electronics. Will be a cheap price as k989 for the perfomance and quality
Thank you for the review. I did order 2 of this model and I wonder if can 2 same rc cars can be running in the same time ? If not are there any solution ? Thank you
Yes, they can run together at the same time. You just need to start them up one at a time. Here's how to do it:
Turn the first car on then turn the first transmitter on and move the steering wheel. Once that's done do the same on the 2nd car. If you have the 3rd, repeat the process on a new one.
Do this every time you want to run because this car binds to the transmitter at start up.
Will watch another fixing videos
Beaver help, the gear that is supposed to spin the shaft (the one beside the metal pinion at 4:45 ) doesn't grip the shaft anymore so the car cant run. Is it supposed to be glued?
That gear isn't supposed to be glued but it has a notch that goes on the shaft and locks it into place. Try turning it around to feel the notch and it should slide into there. In the previous versions it coupled with the rear pinion gear that goes into the gearbox. In the new version it's locked into the shaft.
Nice video, my motor runs quite hot after a short while, but haven't done any of the fixes yet.
Did pretty much the same upgrades. And yes, I agree that the motor pinion is bad... probably even the worst as that is not as easy to replace.
Just bought one of these bad boys. Waiting for it to arrive.
I want to upgrade the diffs, front to a one way and rear to a fixed. Mini z ones or copies.
And I right in thinking I only need the longer front drive shafts and I can use standards in the rear?
If so is the an up to date list of where I can get the parts in the UK.
Is there a steering angle mod you can do?
I like the look of the carbon chassis and upper deck are they a direct replacement?? Seen some carbon shock towers to?
Thanks 🙏🏾
The one way I got from Aliexpress is really good. However if you don't want to wait a very long time then get a genuine Mini-Z parts within the UK.
And yes, you'll need long drive shafts for the front with one way. Both can be found in the UK from www.rcm8.net/ .
At the back you don't have to get a solid axle, you can just lock (glue) the original axle and it'll work. You don't have to change the rear swing shafts either.
The steering mod: follow this tutorial from 5:38 ruclips.net/video/zB3pUN9XiSw/видео.html .
Caron chassis is not recommended. It'll mess up your ride height. However feel free to try.
Carbon shock towers are good. It should be in aliexpress so I don't know if there's any UK stock.
Hi, I’ve just received my car, and I have a problem with the car only steering and having no throttle. I’ve tried everything, nothing works. Do u know a way to bind the receiver again?
If the steering works but no throttle, make sure the battery is fully charged. Then check if the Throttle D/R knob is turned to the right direction. Hold the throttle and turn the knob to see if the motor runs, I think it should turn clockwise for max speed.
The way to bind this receiver is turning the transmitter on, turn the car on then move the steering on the transmitter.
@@BeaversHobby Hello, I’ve charged the battery fully (I even checked on a lipo checker). I also tried turning the dual rate, that also does nothing. Lastly, if I turn on the car and the radio, it doesn’t bind automatically. I need to every time turn the steering wheel. Then it is bound, but still no throttle. I was thinking that the receiver maybe is broken.
@@Tiickel You'll have to bind it manually every time you turn the car on so that's normal. However I think your receiver-ESC combo is faulty. Please contact the shop you bought it from for replacement.
@@BeaversHobby Thanks for ur help. I’ve contacted the seller.
Have you had the chance to try the metal drivetrain gear set yet? Would you recommend them?
Not yet. From what I've seen it works well if you have the metal diffs too.
Hey Beavers, I got my first RC car as an adult for my 30th. Got a K989 and I've been watching all of your videos since. Do you think the recommended parts get re-stocked often on Banggood? The differentials and pinion gears are currently showing as out of stock to the UK
The pinion gears get restock pretty often but I don't recommend the differentials. It's better to get the long CVD 25mm or 27mm and use Mini-Z AWD differentials instead.
As for the spare parts, take a look in aliexpress too. The shops there restock faster than banggood.
Thanks for the quick response, really helpful and means a lot
@@tazzoahmed My pleasure.
Nice truck can't wait for mine 😀
Useful information. Great Job! Blessings.
I have this version...its a great car...i ordered some metal diffs,but not sure the plastic gear will hold up..on the fence on installing...i may just do plastic diff fix and add some grease first...thanks for sharing
3:10 thanks dude, now im know function of mode 1234 button 👍👍
i got the k989 few days ago and it has the same upgraded parts as this 284131 expect old transmitter and protocol drive train is sticky of course, i watched your tutorial on how to make it smoother but after doing it my diffs doesn't work properly anymore :|. they do work but has annoying noise like if it was broken or something. also filed the suspension and now the wheels is rolling over and it's undrivable, great job by me. i think i've done it wrong since i'm new to this kind of stuff. i ordered new metal parts as will as drift tires to replace the broken ones and they should arrive in few days and will be ready for drifting soon :)
It'll take some practice to get everything right. Don't get discouraged, stuffs will break from fixing some times and it'll be all the experience you'll get. Best of luck with the project!
Wise words. Thanks!
Great video, I got myself one of these as well!
How did you remove the pinion gear in the end?
I can't pull it off for the life of me and I wonder whether there's an easy way to do it.
There's no easy way to remove it except using a gear puller.
@@BeaversHobby Thanks, I really appreciate your reply.
@@klas7927 My pleasure.
i tried tinkering with the diff buy when i put it back together the throttle is reversed.how do i reset it back to normal
I believe you put the differential in the opposite side. Open it up both front and rear, swap the gear to the other side and it'll go the opposite direction.
I love your videos, very informative and detailed 👍 Please do some upgrade videos for this truck like battery, motor and suspension etc.
It's the same car as K989 and I already did all of that except the battery. We'll see how this goes. I'll probably make one like the 2021 drift edition but with touring instead.
@@BeaversHobby I want to upgrade the battery to something to give it more speed, what do you recommend
@@JGladd To get more speed the most effective ways are either changing the motor pinion to a bigger one or upgrade it with brushless with 5600KV or 7500KV motor (to still make it controllable) or 9500KV and above if you only want straight line speed because these can't really take corners.
The safest upgrade battery that you can use with the original ESC is GNB HV 2S 7.6V. bit.ly/3ov4DDz
If you increase the capacity you might have to remove the battery bracket and hold the battery down with double sided tape or glue, which is not recommended for safety reasons. bit.ly/3CeFIZK
@@BeaversHobby thank you!!
Hi Beaver, my 284131 finally arrived!!! Love the looks except the rear wheels sit too far forward in the wheel arch. I see there is an option to move the rear axle back a few millimetres. How would that work, does the drive train accomodate that or do I need extra long parts? As always, thanks for your input.
There's no need for extra part. Check the gear bag, you'll see a long pinion gear for the centre shaft, replace the original one with that to extend the wheelbase 4mm (98mm to 102mm). Here's a video for that. ruclips.net/video/BK-9SNIuYlY/видео.html
@@BeaversHobby Thank you.. setting it back is too far back now! Just needed 100mm and it would be prefect. As it's apart, I'll sort the linkages out following your informative videos. Thanks for all you do
@@trevorc6793 Probably 98mm (original wheelbase) with less toe in so the wheels go back a bit might look alright.
@@BeaversHobby I saw a video you did on that, time to get those small rods etc from BG :)
@@BeaversHobby Hi, last question.. (possibly!). When you install the mini-q ball diffs, where does the spacer/washer go please?
Hello, I recently purchased the vehicle in this video and the k969 after watching your excellent tutorial, modification, and review videos. I've been having fun racing and drifting in my basement on a tight mesh carpet. I would like to pre-purchase some spare parts to have on hand in case of breakage. I live in the US where there isn't many parts available so I will have to make an overseas purchase. This is the reason I would like to pre-purchase some parts so that it I am not down for weeks in case of breakage. What parts can you recommend to have on hand? Also I would like to know with mostly carpet driving should I avoid stock replacement parts all together and just upgrade parts like differentials and steering components now? Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
The centre shaft (prop shaft) pinions are what wear out the fastest following by the differentials.
There's a way to make it durable by replacing the pinion with metal bit.ly/3m1i4bd . As for the differentials, first change the CVD to long CVD like these bit.ly/3m1i4bd then you can use any Mini-Z AWD compatible differential, it'll be much more durable than WLtoys' part. You can get Atomic AMZ or GLA ball differential too if you want hi-performance differentials. Otherwise a standard Mini-Z AWD plastic gear differential already good for touring. You can find these parts in Mini-Z racing shop like kenonhobby.com , it's based the US.
@@BeaversHobby thank you for the reply. I will definitely look into these part upgrades. I am finding this vehicle performs pretty well stock but obviously not like the videos that I am watching on the internet with such smooth drifting control. I have moved the steering linkage to the upper hole on the servo bell. And have used the included parts to move the rear differential back and extend the wheelbase. These changes have helped drifting control but I think my next step would be to improve the tires and add a drift gyro. Is there a brand tires and wheels you can recommend? Do mini z tires and wheels fit directly on the 969? Also the drift to gyro you recommend in your videos I have found on the internet but has a long wait time for shipping. Will the AGFRC GY01 V3 be compatible with the stock receiver, speed control combo? I appreciate your help guiding me in the right direction on those things.
@@cmkpikes Mini-Z AWD wheels and Mini-Z tyres are compatible with WLtoys. Make sure you got the AWD wheels and not RWD wheels because they are different. Here's my review from K989 which go into more details ruclips.net/video/TnhriaSSfSA/видео.html (K989, K969, 284131 etc. are all the same chassis).
As for the gyro, unfortunately nowadays the new batch comes with JST-SH plug on the servo so none of the gyro will plug into it directly. You will have to convert the plug no matter which one you get.
The gyro is generally compatible as it just intercepts the signal and send a corrected steering signal to the servo. It'll work as long as you get the one that has a dial on the unit. The reason being the stock electronics doesn't have a VR channel to control gain.
Dangit i just bought a 969 too. Oh well haha. Im following your modification series 😁
Today i ordered also but older with fiesta body.... Also i think if i calculate this good u can get sub 20$ with code on 11/11 promo
are u gonna do an upgrade series on this one like u did for the k989?
It's the same car so I'm not going to repeat all the fixes and basics but go straight to budget touring car 2022 edition.
Thank you for sharing this good video^^ 👍
Where do I find extras batteries 🤔
Hobbyking has 300-450 Turnigy nanotech. 300mAh will fit without modifications, 450 will need some. You can also get GNB battery from many sources like Banggood. I use the hi-voltage series. 350mAh bit.ly/3ov4DDz seems to be out of stock right now so here's 300mAh bit.ly/3ihR6g3 . None of GNB will have the plug you need for this car (JST RCY) but you can convert it to anything so there's no problem.
Hi man.
How reliable is the spider gears and the gears in general?
It's not reliable even in this new version. It'll need some fixing to work and will still wear out quickly. I ended up replacing the diffs with Mini-Z diffs.
@@BeaversHobby thanks. Does the mini Q diffs that you have linked work just as well?
@@philipbrits2984 Yes, those are what I use. You'll also need the long CVD for it to work because this is a wide chassis and on stock setup they just extend the outdrive instead of making longer CVD shaft. By the way I just checked and Mini-Q diff is out of stock right now. You can get this instead. It'll be all metal diff. www.banggood.com/custlink/KGmCaD6y0r
@@BeaversHobby thanks. If i get that metal diff you linked, do I still need the longer cvd's?
@@philipbrits2984 Yes, you still need the long CVD.
Any idea if this can work with Nobel Nb4 Transmitter
You will need to install your own ESC. This is the tutorial ruclips.net/video/BSt7U-yOa4Q/видео.html
I didn't use NB4 in the video because it hadn't come out at that time.
Good video! I'm about to purchase two of the WLToys version so I can force people to race me. Am I correct in understanding that I can swap a car body onto the truck version? I was going to buy one car and one truck just for the difference, but it seems the truck has better upgrades already and I'd hate to buy something not as good over a body.
Yes, you can. The body posts are different length but you can swap those as well so there's nothing to worry about.
Do you have a recommended front one way and solid rear diff for this?
The ones I got from Aliexpress are really good www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001671065507.html
You will have to use them with long CVD though. Here's banggood link bit.ly/3m1i4bd but you should be able to find the same on Aliexpress too.
You can also buy only the front one way and glue the original rear diff to make a lock diff if you want to save a bit of money.
Awesome vid mi familia 👍
I subscribed 🙏🏼👍👊🤣❤💯
Great review. Does the car come with full bearings from the box?
Yes, it has full bearings out of the box.
I have this car with this problem...turning circle to left is very tight but to right is not...radio trim is centered and servo arm in correct pos. 🤔 any ideas thanks.
After you centre everything check if the servo can swing both sides equally, if not then re-center the trim then take the servo out and re-position the servo horn. If the swing to both sides are equal then it's the problem with the wheels, tyres and the suspension. See if you get the tyres contact the same on both sides. If not you might have to put M2 screws in the lower arms to adjust the ride height and contact.
Also check out stage 1 and 2 for how to inspect and fix the car.
ruclips.net/video/TnhriaSSfSA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/QAGTXo70MmU/видео.html
Is there a way to reverse the throttle? Mine came new with the throttle control backwards. Everything looks to be installed correctly. Thank you for your videos. They are very helpful
Check where the problem is first.
If you can pull the trigger, push it to go one way then come back to centre again and push to go the other way then the problem is at the motor wire. You can swap the polarity easily by using a tweezer to push the tap on the motor plug down and pull the wires out then you can swap them. If you pull the motor plug out you'll se one side with the lock and the other side with the exposed terminal. Do it on the side of the terminal. It doesn't have to be a tweezer, anything thing enough can push that terminal down and you can pull the wire out.
If the problem is not at the motor wire, the wiring inside the transmitter is reversed. You will have to swap 2 of the 3 wires in the throttle potentiometer. Not sire which one so you will have to experiment which of the 2 wires give you reverse throttle.
Great video
A question my friend,the new motor metal gog wont eat up the plastic one that interacts with it?And is there any solution to it if its true?
It will over time. There are 2 solutions, 1 is to upgrade the drivetrain with metal bit.ly/3w7XChB so the centre shaft pinion gears are metal and the spur gear as well so the motor gear won't eat it that fast. Or replace the motor pinion with a plastic one.
I recommend upgrading the gears to metal because it will prolong the car's life as the pinions are known to wear out very quickly.
Hi, the car just arrive, but there's so much dead zone in the throttle. Is it just my problem or has someone else noticed it. Thanks
Out of the box with the drivetrain is very sticky and you will have to pull the throttle a lot to start rolling.
Also, if the DR knob is turned down then the throttle will take a lot to start responding.
You can disassemble the car and run only with the motor outside to see if the deadzone is still there. If so then there might be a problem with your electronics.
@@BeaversHobby thanks i'll try
My differential broke any suggestion for a cheap but better differential?
Mini-Z AWD differential but you'll have to replace the CVD with long ones like these. bit.ly/3m1i4bd
Hey, what are the essential upgrades that I need to do for it to last longer? Also, could you recommend any good drift tires and wheels available on aliexpress? Thanks
The current version of this car is really solid and you don't have to upgrade it to improve the durability. Not that you can anyway because the differential size is different so you can only get the direct replacement.
As for the drift wheels & tyres, it can be expensive on aliexpress. I recently tried a cheap set and it's not that good (also the order is wrong), feel free to try it though www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005025237818.html .
I recommend getting original Mini-Z AWD wheels, narrow (front) 1.5mm offset with Kyosho MDT001 tyres. You can find them on your local Kyosho dealer or banzaihobby.com and rcmart.com.
@BeaversHobby Thanks so much man!
can you open up the esc on this model?
Yes. Remove the top plate or bar first. The ESC is bolted to the bar from underside. Then you'll see some screws to take out and you can open it.
@BeaversHobby i accidentally ripped the power cable from inside the ESC, can i just solder it back myself?
@@JoshuaIsCringe Yes, you can solder it back. There's nothing to worry about.
Je vien de l’acheter et il ce connecte pas à la manette???
Sorry for the later reply.
Turn the car on first, then the transmitter and move the steering wheel. If that doesn't connect to the car then something is defective and you should contact the shop.
May I ask is there any brushless motor suitable to upgrade? Thank you
The motor size is called 1410 or 1625 depending on the brand. I usually recommend a budget motor: Surpass Rocket V2 for Mini-Z www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002433453641.html
3500KV or 5500KV is the most optimal.
As for the ESC, can't go wrong with DasMikro V3 www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003527519554.html .
Here's one of my build videos. ruclips.net/video/j9pO35iaqfo/видео.html Don't worry, K989 is the same chassis. Just different body.
Thanks a lot sir
@@saikeungar My pleasure.
How easy would it be to add a gyro like your other videos ? This is OK for drifting with different wheels
It's easy if you have upgraded the electronics otherwise it will involve some soldering on very small wires. It's still not that difficult though.
@@BeaversHobby I would love a gyro installing. I am not very good with soldering however. I was going to ask if I send you my car can you install it I pay you cash??
@@mikes0121 Unfortunately I can't do that.
@@BeaversHobby :( ok bro
Is the diffuser removable to fit a minix body on it?
Yes, it's removeable. However it is a part of the rear gearbox that props the gearbox in place. Originally (in K989, K969) this was a small plate so you can cut all the diffuser out to keep the car functioning properly.
Do you think it will be a good car for out of the box drifting for a beginner?
Yes, it is. You just need some good drift tyres and that's pretty much it.
@@BeaversHobby ok, thanks
@@yasxn3621 My pleasure.
@@BeaversHobby What tyres would you recommend?
Thanks for your time
@@yasxn3621 I highly recommend Mini-Z parts especially the tyres, they are well balanced and easy to drive.
Rims bit.ly/2WSecRf
Drift tyres bit.ly/2I3a74k
How did you fix the drive train?
Here ruclips.net/video/TnhriaSSfSA/видео.html
I've got the links for stage 1 and 2 fix in the description too.
Awesome video. Can't wait for you to modify it.
Always wanted to build a 1:10 rwd drift car for myself but it was way to expensive.
Wanted to ask if it's possible to make this rwd and fit the Mini-Z R32 body on it.
Is it realistic to keep it under 100€ with a different differential, the Mini-Z body and new tires?
Best regards ✌🏻
Unfortunately the Mini-Z R32 body is for 94mm wheelbase narrow chassis but this car is 98mm wheelbase ultra wide chassis so it won't fit. However if you modify it to RWD you can cut and extend the chassis so a 1/24 scale model will fit.
@@BeaversHobby thanks for the reply.
If seen someone do it but I'm not sure how they did it.
When you modified yours with the Camero ZL1 was it a Mini-Z also?
@@JourneyOfDardan Yes, the ZL1 is from Mini-Z and it's direct fit with 0mm offset wheels.
@@BeaversHobby Hope i will find a jdm bodyshell that will fit.
Thank you for the replies.
Wish you all the best.
Greetings from Germany. Can you put a purchase link to drift tyres for the Wltoys 264131
Here you go.
Wheels www.srcc-devils.de/FELGEN/AWD-BZ-GLA-etc/WA-S603W-S6-AWD-Rim-Narrow-1-5-White.htm?a=article&ProdNr=A1664&p=1108
Tyres www.srcc-devils.de/GL-RACING-WORLDWIDE-SHOP/GL-Drift/MDT001-KYOSHO-AWD-Mini-Z-MDT-001-Reifen-1-24-Drift-8-5mm-4-.htm?a=article&ProdNr=5302&p=1221
Hi Beaver thanks a lot for your fantastic channel and all the information you share with the public. I want to get my fist 1/28 car. I have a lot of experience and know RCs very well, just never tried anything this small. I want to put together some kind of rally car, possibly a kit, certainly with custom electronics, something that can cope with dust and can be used outside. Any advice? Also I need advice about ESC and brushless combo, something on banggood? And TX and RX what is the best micro receiver and what TX will it use? Tnx
For using outside your best bet is Wltoys K989 or 284131. Unfortunately they don't sell this car as kit so you'll have to work it from RTR. Any transmitter will work providing you have a small enough receiver to fit inside. The antenna-less receivers from Sanwa or Flysky Noble (FGr4S) will do nicely especially the Noble because it's dust proof. If you want a small receiver then you'll need Futaba with S-FHSS/T-FHSS, Sanwa with FH3/FH3 or Flysky Noble. These transmitters have receiver (or compatible receiver in case of Futaba and Sanwa) with JST-ZH plug so you can use Atomic or GL brushless ESC directly without plug conversation. As for the motor, take a look at BYRC on AliExpress as they have enclosed brushless so you can run outside safely.
@@BeaversHobby Hi thank you so much for your answer I really appreciate your help. Today I bought the 284131, although I don't like the body. But the car will slowly be upgraded. For now I want to see test drive the car etc, but I the NB4 seems a solid choice for less money. What do you think about Furitek brushless combo? I watch your review and to me they seem pretty good as a company. Also have you ever heard of Carisma GT 1/24 series? The GT24B (kit version) would be my first choice to drive outside but due to Covid regulations etc they will not ship to Europe.
@@flyingformation1878 From what I know Carisma GT24 series is really good. There are RTR around in Europe but as you checked, the kit won't ship to us so that's a big disappointment. Anyway, best of luck with the project!
@@flyingformation1878 The Furitek is very good good but I think it's too expensive to get for only 1 car because of the bluetooth module. If you have many cars then it's more economical because you can share that module.
@@BeaversHobby Tnx again for your help. I checked the BYRC and it seems a very good deal (Combo + Pcard for 29$) it's great to me. For now I will stick to standard electronics and 1 car because I need to see how good they are to begin with etc but I want two or three cars (drifting - touring - and my off road project with the Carisma). I hope you don't mind if I ask some other questions in the future! Thanks mate.
I'm confuse in two cars k989 and 284131 both wltoys which one best??? plz tell 😊😊😊
They are the same car but 281431 has a better transmitter so it's a better version.
I still wish they never stopped making the A202(The best of all time in these sizes. WHY they stopped making it is BEYOND me.)
What spare parts should I order with my initial purchase?
Centre shaft pinions are a must, these wear out quickly. bit.ly/32IBbxJ
If you have spare change, get long CVD as well so you can upgrade the diffs easier later. bit.ly/3m1i4bd
@@BeaversHobby thank you for the swift responses, absolute legend
Does anyone have any idea what the "Mode" Button on the new Transmitter actually does?
It does nothing.
@@BeaversHobby Thank you!
Do you think if you extended the wheelbase to 102 mm the rear diffuser would be able to stay on the car? And are the wheel wells big enough to accommodate the rear tires if they were moved back the 4 mm?
Yes, it will still be on the chassis. That part used to be a small piece of plastic to prop up the gearbox, now it's full diffuser. But with the original body the diffuser will stick out a bit more.
@@BeaversHobby okay thanks for the information. I would check myself but it is a pre-purchase question. I would like to get one and set it up for a touring car and would like to extend the wheelbase to 102 mm. Also do you think the tires will fit inside of the wheel arch wells? When I extended the wheelbase on the 989 the tire still fit without rubbing in the body because they have extended arches. Do you think this will be the same for the 28413? Or will modification to the wheel arches be needed to accommodate the tires?
@@cmkpikes Try it first. I found the body to has pretty wide wheel arches. If it doesn't fit you can simply use a scissor to trim the body.
@@BeaversHobby I received my 284131 newer version of the wltoys cars. I also have the newer version of the 989 that has the same newer style electronics and motor with the metal pinion gear. I noticed that on the 284131 truck that the receiver speed control and motor run extremely hot. The 989 gets warm but this will burn your fingers if you touch the motor. The gears seem to spin freely with no drag and I have made sure I am not over tightening the wheels to cause drag. Like I said this one runs much hotter than my other WL toys car. I noticed the body is more enclosed on this newer truck. But I have ran through a full battery charg with the body off and it still gets extremely warm. Any ideas what could possibly be the case? No other changes have been made to the car except for changing the stock tires for the PN racing radial tires. One other question I have is the 989 is set up with locked rear differential and open front differential with drift tires. I am having a problem where when I release the throttle the back tires just lock up making the car not control how I would like. I installed a one-way differential on the front but gave me the same effect that I do not care for and have removed it. With the open differential the front does not lock up when the throttle is released but the rear does. I thought about moving the one way differential to the rear but I don't think it's designed to be able to do that. The differential would have to be flipped around in the gearbox but then the rear tires would spin the wrong direction. I noticed this can be solved by flipping both of the differentials around and reversing the direction of the motor. Have you ever tried to put the differentials in backwards or flipped over 180°, however you would say it. And then reversing the direction of the motor. Can the motor rotation be reversed by reversing the wire leads to the motor? In the end I am trying to get the same effect that a one-way differential gives where when you release the throttle the tires just spin freely but on the back. Anyway you think I could achieve this?
@@cmkpikes A touring car's motor is usually hotter than drift so as long as it doesn't stop because of the heat it'll be alright.
As for the one way. It's like bicycle's rear wheel. That's how it works. If you swap the side or put it in the back, it won't work. If you want to do the swap, do both standard diff and then reverse motor polarity. It'll give you the same driving direction.
Do you know if the new transmitter will work with the k989 receiver/esc combo? Would love to be able to dial the power down!
Unfortunately no, it won't work with the old combo.
Hi I Got 3 for For me and my brothers, I Followed your videos! The recent 284131 have metal center shaft pinion now!
My K989 from 6 months ago also has a metal pinion and I've not succeeded on removing it.
You'll need a gear puller to do it.
👍😎 we have 1 too. nice truck
im buying this one right now, can u suggest some spare parts to get that break easily? since some parts changed materials
The pinion gears for centre shaft are still fragile so get that. The diff needs fixing so I suggest getting a Mini-Z or Mini-Q diff is better. And then you'll need the long CVD. bit.ly/3m1i4bd (if it's out of stock, check out Aliexpress)
That's pretty much it. As long as you don't crash it at the wheel at full speed nothing else should break.
@@BeaversHobby thanks a lot :) , do u have a link to the pinion gears? cant fine em on banggood, and do u have a video where u install the long CVD?
@@visualdosage234 Spares are on Aliexpress right now. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003674363056.html
As for the long CVD, here's the old one. ruclips.net/video/BLAHvTAa6nM/видео.html
I also have the same but with all the upgrades in 2021. ruclips.net/video/j9pO35iaqfo/видео.html
I just got one. Drivetrain is way too tight. Looks like the gear mesh cannot be adjusted.That sucks.
The diffs are badly made. You can either fix the diffs along with the drivetrain like this ruclips.net/video/TnhriaSSfSA/видео.html .
Or replace the diffs like I did in t\his video.
Woow...verg good👍
where does one get center shaft pinions and diffs parts for these ? say someone would break those weaker parts u were talking about ?
It's on banggood and aliexpress. Banggood seems to be out of stock right now so here's the Aliexpress link. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003674363056.html
I recommend using Mini-Z AWD differential in conjunction with the long CVD www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003399026933.html for better durability and fitting. Also with the long CVD you can use any Mini-Z AWD compatible diffs like ball diffs from GL Racing GLA and get the best performance out of it.
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I just got mine and it turns on, the lights turn on, the controller turns on, the steering works but it won’t move at all. And suggestions or should I just return ot
Make sure the battery is fully charged or have at least 6.8V.
Check the TH DR (throttle dual rate) dial on the transmitter. It's the bottom dial. Turn it up or the other way and see if the throttle works. If not, check the motor connection if the wires are OK and not cut. If nothing works the car might be faulty so you'll have to contact the shop for a replacement or refund.
@@BeaversHobby Dang ok thanks for the reply looks like I’ll just have to return it.
Will the K989 Ford Focus Rally Hootniga will this body of the 284031 truck fit the K989 Rally as I would just buy the body of this truck
Yes, it will. It's the same car after all. You'll have to adjust the body posts a bit and it'll fit. I believe the front and rear bumper are now available too so you can fully convert K989 to 284131.
@@BeaversHobby thanks beaver can you adjust the body posts easily without having to add parts just unclipped adjust etc
@@krisstoney6892 Yes, you can just undo 2 screws and move the post up and down to fit.
@@BeaversHobby thanks my friend.
Hi, is the camber and toe adjustable? Or do you need upgrades? If yes, what upgrades? Thanks.
No, they are not adjustable. You'll have to mod it.
I have done adjustable linkage mod here, it's an old video but the method is the same. Just change the M1.5 I use for M2 screw and it'll be much stronger. ruclips.net/video/9OlVz1dXJNc/видео.html
@@BeaversHobby great thanks. For drifting would you go with front toe out? If yes, about how much?
@@BeaversHobby Hi, also does this need a gyro to drift? Any other upgrades you would recommend for drifting please?
@@avneet911 I find front toe out about 1.5-2 degree has good effect. As for the gyro, it's not necessary for AWD drifting but it helps. Personally it find it fighting me no matter how low I set so I end up not using it at all.
Other upgrades are a good set of tyres, front one way and rear locked. That's pretty much it.
@@BeaversHobby awesome. I’m getting the 284131 delivered soon so will follow your videos for immediate fixes then upgrades. Thanks for the response.
We can use 18650 for battery isn't it?
No, it's too big.
@@BeaversHobby Only if you want to use on the original place. I think we can mod. Or not?
@@K4iotEch Yes, you can file or mill the original gears down to something like 2mm peck and use the motor gear from Tamiya Mini 4WD (or a plastic 8T gear) over it then glue it in. I did that and it lasted much, much longer than the original plastic gear.
Any good ways to mount the shell (and battery) without using clips? I keep losing them. Thinking to try using velcro but not sure where to mount it.
Personally I don't recommend the velcro because you will have to line it up every time you play and if you use it for touring or anywhere with dust, the velcro will get dirty very quickly.
What is the car for? Is it for touring or drifting. If it's for touring then there's no better and more secure option than using clips. However you can make it easier by putting a small cable tie on the loop at the end so you can pull the clip out easier.
If it's for drifting then the magnet mount system is also good.
Is it worth buying this and upgrading it besides the k969
This is a better car just because the transmitter is better. If you can verify that the K969 that you are getting is the new batch with the same transmitter then get the K969.
Can remove bumper?
It's a part of the gearbox. You can remove it but you will need something to pad the gearbox.
@@BeaversHobby do you have link mod? I want to turn it to Honda nsx body
@@Victor2K23 Here's what you have to do to make it fit ruclips.net/video/-gCJEXXWBEo/видео.html .
Don't worry about the name, it's the same car.
You can only use the new Mini-Z NSX that is 98mm with 0mm and 1mm offset narrow wheels with this car.
Here's body compatibility list with offset. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v2sVg072T2Xl4tvEEy_E7kiDdmen-gRIWWm-pIp1VXY
@@BeaversHobby thanks a lot🙏🏻🇹🇭
@@Victor2K23 My pleasure.
How much does it his cost
It's 56.99 USD right now. usa.banggood.com/custlink/GDG5Q6HBM9
is there any transmitter that support with the new controller? if exist, where can i buy it?
You can mod a transmitter that has PPM output with multiprotocol and use XK X420 protocol.
If you want a ready made one I'm afraid there is no pistol grip or car transmitter, only air transmitter like this bit.ly/3BN6Qik .
I also have a series showing how to configure it to use with cars.
ep1 Unboxing, basic setup ruclips.net/video/vSRR67jMhzI/видео.html
ep2 Self-centering stick ruclips.net/video/wKuwODFd338/видео.html
can it reverse
Yes, it can.
Hello Beaver, great review. I am fan of your RC car videos they are so amazing and easy to understand. I am beginner and want to start this hobby, Can you please create a drift car build series with this car. Also if possible share parts from either aliexpress/bangood.
It is exactly the same car as K989/K969 so the most updated version of the drift build is still this video. ruclips.net/video/j9pO35iaqfo/видео.html
I'm looking for a budget drift car with possible upgrades and I'm stuck between these to models
248131 or the K989
Which one would you recommend
They are the same car underneath. Choose whichever body you like because the new batch of K989 should come with the same upgraded transmitter already. Or choose the 284131 if you are not sure which transmitter you will get.
@@BeaversHobby thanks for your time and replying, that's a big help..
@@BeaversHobbyHi Beaver, Do you know if the K989 has now received said upgrades? I don't like the body styles of the 284131 or 284010, but would buy one of those and try and change the shell if the K989 has not received the upgrades. Thanks in advance for your reply 😊
@@barriem119 I don't know but normally at this point I would assume all K series have been updated.
@@BeaversHobby The K series now comes with the new V2 transmitter. So am I right in thinking that the only difference between the k989 and the 284131 is the shell and lights?
Can i use k989 metal parts on this?
Yes, you can. It's the same car with different body after all.
Hi Beaver, is it possible to fit some kind of Skyline (R34 R32 or the OG Hakosuka) body on this? One that I can get in Europe? Thanx!
Unfortunately it is not compatible with Mini-Z Skyline bodies. Those cars are 94mm wheelbase narrow bodies while this car is 98-102mm wheelbase ultra wide chassis.
It might fit some of the 1/24 scale model although you will need to check the wheelbase on the model if it's 98 or 102mm.
Can you recommend a good brushed ESC for this car? I installed one today and it lasted 1 battery before burning out.
Hobbywing Quicrun 1625 should fit the tall bit of the cockpit nicely. You'll have to change the transmitter too following this guide ruclips.net/video/BSt7U-yOa4Q/видео.html .
Still, have you fixed the drivetrain before running, it's so sticky that it might burn the electronics out.
Great video! You can always use the original ballhead with a bigger screw to the servo.
Can you explain what you mean? I'm in this position but the parts mentioned in video are out of stock and I want to increase steering angle
@@tazzoahmed just put a bigger screw throw the original ballhead that fits to the steering arm.
Would this be better than the k969?
Yes, it has better electronics. But if you only look at the chassis then it's the same.
Hi there. I guess u get a lot of this questions. What car would u recommend? Affordable/ but able to achieve a lot with simple modifications?
WLtoys K989 series or this 284131. It'll need a some fixes but it's the best for the money.
Does anyone know if the stock plastic diffs have any oil or grease in them? I watched videos on how to fix stock diffs,but not sure if they were lubed from factory...thanks
Unfortunately, there's no grease in the stock diff.
Thats good to know.thanks
👍👍 cool bro..