it works but it is VERY situational.. I have been doing this since day 1 but.. when you have an ore that is this deep in the ground.. the time you waste digging around it may even take longer than to dig it normal... silver is the best to pop like this.. copper works best when its on side of a cliff or half buried, but if its almost fully under ground just dig it up, dont try to pop it. its fun but takes longer
As far as I have observed, it is also worthwhile to pop underground copper deposits. "Normal" excavation yields 60 to 90 copper, while popping yields 90 to 120 copper. At least I've never had less than 90 by pop a vein and never more than 90 copper with normal digging.
@@alex18sb51 I dont recall getting less or more than 90+ either way, I was not really paying attention.. but if you do get more for popping, well that would make it worth your time, I will keep an eye on that in my next playthrough
@@anthooktt1403 I was extremely surprised when I realised this. My "feeling" is that during normal digging, items occasionally glitch under the map and despawn. But since nothing despawns in Valheim and items are usually pushed into the surface..... I can't really believe this theory myself. Fact is, the amount of items that drop when popping is greater than the amount when digging. That much I can say with certainty.
@@alex18sb51 items do despawn in 1-6 in game days, if they are outside workbech or campfire zones.. tho it makes sense.. when you raise ground if any item is on the ground they can clip under, but for what ever reason in valheim they stay just under map and dont despawn and I have seen items pop back up on their own after some time... sooo popping ore could trigger hidden ore under map to pop and bring it up ..... pop nice
@@anthooktt1403 Do Items despawn also in sologame? I thought they do not? Good to know. Clipping are strange in every game. Therefore i try to avoid this, as much as possible. But last thing sounds logic to me.
One thing I always forget to do when I get the bronze and better metal pickaxe(s) is to use the antler pickaxe to clear the terrain around the deposit. Pickaxes all do the same damage to dirt terrain or dig at the same speed but antler use less stamina so it is better not to waste the higher damage dealing metal axes on the dirt and save them for the deposits.
Just skip the Bronze Pickaxe and make 2 Antler, or even 3, swap out as needed. Repair them all at once. Easy if you build a Workbench under the deposit as well, as it's usually sheltered.
This worked like a charm. I chose a copper mine that was taking me forever to clear out. There were two nodes near each other but embedded in rock. This guide was very helpful and I cleared both nodes much more quickly, plus now I know what to look for my next mine. Thank you so much.
I actually just defeated Eikthyr yesterday and was planning to go hunting in the Black Forest for copper, so this video dropping today is perfect timing! I tried to pop in the past but I don't think I cleared the edges enough so I'll be trying this when I find my copper. Thanks for the video!
Yeah, it can be very frustrating sometimes - one more tip I should have shared in the video, be sure not to mine copper that is close-by burial chambers, as you can not break these rocks. 😊
@@The-B-Side Funny you should mention that, as that is EXACTLY what I did with the first copper deposit I found. I did eventually get a teeny pop but it was not impressive, and now I have a crypt that's only got a little ground under it and the rocks on the other side holding it up.
@@Jekkin8 We did as a group in a no map no portal hardcore server I'm part of, and it was a NIGHTMARE lol Took hours with three fairly competent players and my squishy builder in over her head self, and even then we'd called another player in to help... who got lost on the way there and arrived just in time to see yag's death. I don't think I have the desire to ever fight him again lol We haven't killed the queen though, and I don't know if we'll be able to with any sort of grace :/
@@jrj5893 man that's impressive. Just getting there sounds like an ordeal lol. Hey but if you can take down the crazy skeleton king you can destroy the queen,I believe. Good luck and keep on adventuring.
Beeble you bloody legend! Didn't even realise you were releasing content for this game too. Know exactly where I'm going for my info now. Loved your stuff since NMS
I had so far only used this on silver, having found out about it from a servermate. I had wondered if it could be used with copper and I am glad to see it does, as well as with other things similar to them. Thanks!
@@Leon_Aldrich In my experience with silver its extremely quick. I know for a fact it takes ages to clear a copper deposit the normal way. Going to test this method in a bit, will let you know.
-I've never been able to get a whole copper node to pop at once until today. Didn't strike the node anywhere. Total copper ore 134. -It immediately went to another node and mined it a piece at a time. Total copper ore 140. I'm not sure if the time was the same for both, but they seemed to take about the same amount of time.
The numbers are helpful, thanks! I know there was some debate on if one method yields more copper than the other, but your data suggests it is roughly similar, thanks!
Nice and concise. There are mods that can help this of course, including ones that lower the bedrock and auto-level terrain (saving digging). The only shame comes when you have glitches from late-game mining (very late game usually) Also, some Trolls can fall in your copper hole, but this can help mine the copper if you are sufficiently agile. Thanks for the video!
Ore deposits are like icebergs: 90% of it is probably underground. Been using this method forever and It's insane how much copper you realize you've been leaving behind beforehand. Even better: once you've cleared most of the ground, go find a troll with a tree. Let him do the swinging because he can even hit tiny copper fragments just underground that might be holding up the rest of the deposit. Seriously, trolls are your friends. Learn to use them and you can bring down entire forests in record time without ever dulling your axe.
@@The-B-Side Nah, they make great workout buddies! Swing...and roll! Swing...and roll! The best part is that they'll never break their tree so they never need repairs! Of course, you won't build up any skills using trolls in this manner but whatevs! DEFOREST THE PLACE!
You can also very rarely get a deposit to pop without even mining any of the ground. If the deposit is 100% underneath the ground and then mined, it can pop. Now, this sounds impossible to achieve, but there are a number of ways to do it. My favorite is using an Abomination to mine copper. It's ground aoe attack is perfect. It will damage the top parts of the copper node, and eventually be far enough away from the surface it will pop. I've heard you can do it with trolls too, but have never tried. I have one singular time got copper to pop by mining the exposed bit until it is no longer showing, but upon trying to repeat this, I never once was able to replicate it.
I had a stone node merged into a copper one a few days ago. Once I mined all the piece the of the stone were connected to the ground the rest of it popped, even the bits inside the copper.
Honestly, i used to always clear the ground around the copper deposits to get every bit, but I've found since the large majority of the copper is towards the top, I'll just mine directly what i see on the surface and go down from there until i get most of it. I might miss a few pieces towards the bottom, but you still get at least about 2/3 of the deposit and it's probably 2x faster overall. I still dig out the ground for silver though, as it takes much longer to mine and requires an iron pickaxe.
Each deposit is different, copper nodes that are half stuck out on a cliff side are really easy to pop with this method, just make sure it’s not a cliff side on the water or all your copper will sink into the ocean lol
the stone pillar,, I built building Up the pillar.. Trolls show and can't hurt me unless they take down the pillar.. but I did make a trench a distance away from the pillar to. Works for me.. Something you may be interested in trying to do.. good luck.. enjoy the game /// as for this video,, I tend to do alot of this already.. break the bottom end the rest fall in.. similar to taking the pillars out from under a building where the rest just breaks up on it's own.. have fun
I spent 3 hours last night trying to get mine to pop I didn't know that you couldn't have anything built close to it I had chests and a fire and a crafting table under it that explains why it would never pop
Not really, as you will be mining out all the terrain layer by layer while going down. You also see the complete deposit, while when just mining it out manually, you might miss parts.
no way is that quicker than just mining the copper. like you I mine around it to find the edge but then I just mine the copper top to bottom. sod cutting trees mining rocks and what not, just to make sure nothing could be close to it. by the time you have done all that you could have just mined the copper its self.
I only dig out silver now. Silver damages your pickaxe more than copper. Copper... eh ill just break a bit and get what I need. I try to skip as much bronze as possible.
it works bcoz its not mincraft nothing cant float. it should break when not touch anything. even its allready unnatural floathing from one point. never had it work for copper and its faster mine copper first place
Others be ware: Have tested that method long time ago. The ore you are showing in the video is not worth digging like that... Silver is nice as it is easy to dig around, but this? You will spend 30-60 minutes working around the deposit while mining it properly will take you like 15 mins not counting way back home to empty your backpack... Pro tip: try to hit the ore where more pieces meet like corners etc. you will hit more pieces at once (for less dmg though) and clear it way faster.
1.5k hours PRO TIP: This technique is NOT WORTH IT. Takes actually longer and is way more complicated than simply mining the ore. Its false benefit is purely psychological: you feel more engaged because you're following a "strategy", and you're rewarded at the end. But in reality you lost more time and dug a uselessly bigger hole. Sometimes it works, but the numerous times when your deposit is floating out of reach, gotta build ladders to figure out THE spot that is considered still connected, you keep falling through and take damage each try, ... is SOOOO annoying!!! Plus the pickaxe inflicts more damage downwards, so your hits are weaker when mining from the bottom. This technique is useful when the deposit's underbelly is already exposed (on a cliffside) Pro Tip #2: You'll get plenty of easy copper in the Mistlands, and bronze items aren't good anyways. Mine only 1 or 2 deposits to make only necessary stuff (axe, nails and benches upgrades), upgrade your Troll armor then skip to iron age.
600 hours, agree with every word. Modern map generator puts A LOT of copper deposits, there is no reason to vaste tons of time trying to get every bit from single one. With all craftings stations, all comfort, carve, cart, +4 buckler, +4 mace, +1 axe, without bronze armor and decorations you are going to need around 230 copper FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Just dig out the very top of 4-5 deposits and you have ez 8 stacks of copper.
1000 hours here and I have been doing this for a long time. I like that I can focus the digging first and then worry about collecting and hauling later. I just toss the stone on the ground until my tools need repair and then take back the stone I can haul. I make a chest in the bottom for the ore before I pop it, because I have lost ore to the game before by leaving it on the ground while hauling. When it is done, I plant trees in the hole so they all fall inside the hole for harvesting. I actually believe it is faster overall to use this method, once you get good at it.
The time it takes to do this technique, I could just mine the copper manually. Let’s be honest. And then also add in the time it takes to figure out why the deposit hasn’t popped yet despite there being nothing connecting to it.
I guarantee you will almost always spend MORE time attempting to accomplish this method vs's just mining the ore regularly. Even if digging dirt is slightly faster, you're doing 3-4x the effort of excavating in total. Do the same video with a timer running for each method and you will see how it is not worth it.
it works but it is VERY situational.. I have been doing this since day 1 but.. when you have an ore that is this deep in the ground.. the time you waste digging around it may even take longer than to dig it normal... silver is the best to pop like this.. copper works best when its on side of a cliff or half buried, but if its almost fully under ground just dig it up, dont try to pop it. its fun but takes longer
As far as I have observed, it is also worthwhile to pop underground copper deposits. "Normal" excavation yields 60 to 90 copper, while popping yields 90 to 120 copper. At least I've never had less than 90 by pop a vein and never more than 90 copper with normal digging.
@@alex18sb51 I dont recall getting less or more than 90+ either way, I was not really paying attention.. but if you do get more for popping, well that would make it worth your time, I will keep an eye on that in my next playthrough
@@anthooktt1403 I was extremely surprised when I realised this. My "feeling" is that during normal digging, items occasionally glitch under the map and despawn. But since nothing despawns in Valheim and items are usually pushed into the surface..... I can't really believe this theory myself.
Fact is, the amount of items that drop when popping is greater than the amount when digging. That much I can say with certainty.
@@alex18sb51 items do despawn in 1-6 in game days, if they are outside workbech or campfire zones.. tho it makes sense.. when you raise ground if any item is on the ground they can clip under, but for what ever reason in valheim they stay just under map and dont despawn and I have seen items pop back up on their own after some time... sooo popping ore could trigger hidden ore under map to pop and bring it up ..... pop nice
@@anthooktt1403 Do Items despawn also in sologame? I thought they do not? Good to know.
Clipping are strange in every game. Therefore i try to avoid this, as much as possible.
But last thing sounds logic to me.
Ahhh the ore-gasm. NEVER fails to satisfy.
😏😂
One thing I always forget to do when I get the bronze and better metal pickaxe(s) is to use the antler pickaxe to clear the terrain around the deposit. Pickaxes all do the same damage to dirt terrain or dig at the same speed but antler use less stamina so it is better not to waste the higher damage dealing metal axes on the dirt and save them for the deposits.
Plus, it's worktable repairable
Just skip the Bronze Pickaxe and make 2 Antler, or even 3, swap out as needed. Repair them all at once. Easy if you build a Workbench under the deposit as well, as it's usually sheltered.
i used antler my whole time, only changed into blackmetal lategame
you killed Modir without unlocking Silver?
You need Iron pickaxe to do Silver; unless you're bringing a Troll up the mountain with out...
This worked like a charm. I chose a copper mine that was taking me forever to clear out. There were two nodes near each other but embedded in rock. This guide was very helpful and I cleared both nodes much more quickly, plus now I know what to look for my next mine. Thank you so much.
I actually just defeated Eikthyr yesterday and was planning to go hunting in the Black Forest for copper, so this video dropping today is perfect timing! I tried to pop in the past but I don't think I cleared the edges enough so I'll be trying this when I find my copper. Thanks for the video!
Yeah, it can be very frustrating sometimes - one more tip I should have shared in the video, be sure not to mine copper that is close-by burial chambers, as you can not break these rocks. 😊
@@The-B-Side Funny you should mention that, as that is EXACTLY what I did with the first copper deposit I found. I did eventually get a teeny pop but it was not impressive, and now I have a crypt that's only got a little ground under it and the rocks on the other side holding it up.
You beat the plains boss yet?
@@Jekkin8 We did as a group in a no map no portal hardcore server I'm part of, and it was a NIGHTMARE lol Took hours with three fairly competent players and my squishy builder in over her head self, and even then we'd called another player in to help... who got lost on the way there and arrived just in time to see yag's death. I don't think I have the desire to ever fight him again lol We haven't killed the queen though, and I don't know if we'll be able to with any sort of grace :/
@@jrj5893 man that's impressive. Just getting there sounds like an ordeal lol. Hey but if you can take down the crazy skeleton king you can destroy the queen,I believe. Good luck and keep on adventuring.
Beeble you bloody legend! Didn't even realise you were releasing content for this game too. Know exactly where I'm going for my info now. Loved your stuff since NMS
you make some of the best tutorial valheim videos by far keep it up!
I had so far only used this on silver, having found out about it from a servermate. I had wondered if it could be used with copper and I am glad to see it does, as well as with other things similar to them. Thanks!
I wonder time to clear a deposit without a dig out (amount of ore by time) vs. digging and popping?
@@Leon_Aldrich In my experience with silver its extremely quick. I know for a fact it takes ages to clear a copper deposit the normal way. Going to test this method in a bit, will let you know.
@@stratometal I'm up all night anxiously awaiting...
thank u bro so satisfying and i didnt realize there was copper underneath
Great vid Beebs! Looking forward to Monday!
Haha.. Me too! 😄
-I've never been able to get a whole copper node to pop at once until today.
Didn't strike the node anywhere. Total copper ore 134.
-It immediately went to another node and mined it a piece at a time.
Total copper ore 140.
I'm not sure if the time was the same for both, but they seemed to take about the same amount of time.
The numbers are helpful, thanks! I know there was some debate on if one method yields more copper than the other, but your data suggests it is roughly similar, thanks!
Nice and concise. There are mods that can help this of course, including ones that lower the bedrock and auto-level terrain (saving digging). The only shame comes when you have glitches from late-game mining (very late game usually)
Also, some Trolls can fall in your copper hole, but this can help mine the copper if you are sufficiently agile.
Thanks for the video!
That's one way of doing it 😂
Very cool technique. Can't wait to try this 🙌
Hey, nice vid dude. Great work!
Cheers mate! 😊
Awesome tip. Thanks for sharing it.
Nothing beats going with a group of 3 or more and all of you mining an ore node, you can get it done in like 10 minutes tops and its fun
another great vid Beebs, your on a row lately
Its a good mix of loving to play the game and looking forward to Beyla's Rest and The Ashlands 😅
@@The-B-Side its great bcus people also get vids from it. triple win i say
Thats the way i do it for several Year. Good explained.
Ore deposits are like icebergs: 90% of it is probably underground. Been using this method forever and It's insane how much copper you realize you've been leaving behind beforehand.
Even better: once you've cleared most of the ground, go find a troll with a tree. Let him do the swinging because he can even hit tiny copper fragments just underground that might be holding up the rest of the deposit.
Seriously, trolls are your friends. Learn to use them and you can bring down entire forests in record time without ever dulling your axe.
Haha, they can be for sure... as long distance friends.. 😂
@@The-B-Side Nah, they make great workout buddies! Swing...and roll! Swing...and roll! The best part is that they'll never break their tree so they never need repairs!
Of course, you won't build up any skills using trolls in this manner but whatevs! DEFOREST THE PLACE!
Seems like it would be just as much work (pick strikes) to just mine the ore itself directly
You can also very rarely get a deposit to pop without even mining any of the ground. If the deposit is 100% underneath the ground and then mined, it can pop. Now, this sounds impossible to achieve, but there are a number of ways to do it. My favorite is using an Abomination to mine copper. It's ground aoe attack is perfect. It will damage the top parts of the copper node, and eventually be far enough away from the surface it will pop. I've heard you can do it with trolls too, but have never tried. I have one singular time got copper to pop by mining the exposed bit until it is no longer showing, but upon trying to repeat this, I never once was able to replicate it.
I had a stone node merged into a copper one a few days ago. Once I mined all the piece the of the stone were connected to the ground the rest of it popped, even the bits inside the copper.
Great job and explanation! New sub!
1. tip for mining generally: never mine without rested buff!
Honestly, i used to always clear the ground around the copper deposits to get every bit, but I've found since the large majority of the copper is towards the top, I'll just mine directly what i see on the surface and go down from there until i get most of it. I might miss a few pieces towards the bottom, but you still get at least about 2/3 of the deposit and it's probably 2x faster overall.
I still dig out the ground for silver though, as it takes much longer to mine and requires an iron pickaxe.
Each deposit is different, copper nodes that are half stuck out on a cliff side are really easy to pop with this method, just make sure it’s not a cliff side on the water or all your copper will sink into the ocean lol
the stone pillar,, I built building Up the pillar.. Trolls show and can't hurt me unless they take down the pillar.. but I did make a trench a distance away from the pillar to. Works for me.. Something you may be interested in trying to do.. good luck.. enjoy the game /// as for this video,, I tend to do alot of this already.. break the bottom end the rest fall in.. similar to taking the pillars out from under a building where the rest just breaks up on it's own.. have fun
I watched for the information but subbed for your accent! =p
😂
been waiting for this one for a while
Haha, well - here it is! 😅
Great work! Thx.
Absolute genius
I had no idea copper was that big I always used the method on silver i really wish we could dig deeper the limit is to shallow
I spent 3 hours last night trying to get mine to pop I didn't know that you couldn't have anything built close to it I had chests and a fire and a crafting table under it that explains why it would never pop
This takes longer time, you are just perfectionist :P
Nice!
We love that sweet sweet pop 😍
😂
I have yet to get it to pop like this. After a while, I gave up and just start mining directly on the source.
This looks incredible, but by doing all of that, would it be faster to just mine it out normally? Asking for a friend. LOL RIBBIT!
Not really, as you will be mining out all the terrain layer by layer while going down. You also see the complete deposit, while when just mining it out manually, you might miss parts.
@@The-B-Side Thanks so much!!!!
@@The-B-Sideoops I reask similar question...
cool stuff
Sometimes The game wont let me dig deep enough.
This works best if you do it with multiple players since you guys mine the edges faster
no way is that quicker than just mining the copper. like you I mine around it to find the edge but then I just mine the copper top to bottom. sod cutting trees mining rocks and what not, just to make sure nothing could be close to it. by the time you have done all that you could have just mined the copper its self.
I only dig out silver now. Silver damages your pickaxe more than copper.
Copper... eh ill just break a bit and get what I need. I try to skip as much bronze as possible.
it works bcoz its not mincraft nothing cant float. it should break when not touch anything. even its allready unnatural floathing from one point. never had it work for copper and its faster mine copper first place
I use a troll with a log to dig copper for me, huehue!
Others be ware: Have tested that method long time ago. The ore you are showing in the video is not worth digging like that... Silver is nice as it is easy to dig around, but this? You will spend 30-60 minutes working around the deposit while mining it properly will take you like 15 mins not counting way back home to empty your backpack...
Pro tip: try to hit the ore where more pieces meet like corners etc. you will hit more pieces at once (for less dmg though) and clear it way faster.
I will have mined 3 deposits in the time this guy is halfway ready to pop
While that is fun and satisfying it also takes 3 times longer than just hitting the node.
1.5k hours PRO TIP:
This technique is NOT WORTH IT. Takes actually longer and is way more complicated than simply mining the ore.
Its false benefit is purely psychological: you feel more engaged because you're following a "strategy", and you're rewarded at the end. But in reality you lost more time and dug a uselessly bigger hole.
Sometimes it works, but the numerous times when your deposit is floating out of reach, gotta build ladders to figure out THE spot that is considered still connected, you keep falling through and take damage each try, ... is SOOOO annoying!!!
Plus the pickaxe inflicts more damage downwards, so your hits are weaker when mining from the bottom.
This technique is useful when the deposit's underbelly is already exposed (on a cliffside)
Pro Tip #2: You'll get plenty of easy copper in the Mistlands, and bronze items aren't good anyways. Mine only 1 or 2 deposits to make only necessary stuff (axe, nails and benches upgrades), upgrade your Troll armor then skip to iron age.
600 hours, agree with every word.
Modern map generator puts A LOT of copper deposits, there is no reason to vaste tons of time trying to get every bit from single one.
With all craftings stations, all comfort, carve, cart, +4 buckler, +4 mace, +1 axe, without bronze armor and decorations you are going to need around 230 copper FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Just dig out the very top of 4-5 deposits and you have ez 8 stacks of copper.
1000 hours here and I have been doing this for a long time. I like that I can focus the digging first and then worry about collecting and hauling later. I just toss the stone on the ground until my tools need repair and then take back the stone I can haul. I make a chest in the bottom for the ore before I pop it, because I have lost ore to the game before by leaving it on the ground while hauling. When it is done, I plant trees in the hole so they all fall inside the hole for harvesting. I actually believe it is faster overall to use this method, once you get good at it.
Never worked for me and its same amount of effort as if you were to do this traditionally
So much unnessessary work
Bro just break what you need and look for another deposit when y ou need more
so much work... i'd rather install mod that adds some automation, or adds more copper mined.
The time it takes to do this technique, I could just mine the copper manually. Let’s be honest. And then also add in the time it takes to figure out why the deposit hasn’t popped yet despite there being nothing connecting to it.
I guarantee you will almost always spend MORE time attempting to accomplish this method vs's just mining the ore regularly. Even if digging dirt is slightly faster, you're doing 3-4x the effort of excavating in total.
Do the same video with a timer running for each method and you will see how it is not worth it.
Mining a lot of copper is just not really worth it. Troll Armor is good enough for Black Forest, and the only bronze weapon you need is the axe.