In depth review of the DF83V after three months use. Make sure you click the link to my website if you want to read the (very) indepth written review including the supplier's 'right of reply'.
Hi I have had this grinder for over a week and I must admit that it is ok In fact, the bellows is not needed and when removed, the grinder becomes more compact. It is also important for me that the area around the grinder is very clean. The only thing I will replace is the mug, as it does not have a "rim" which disqualifies me from using it when pouring ground coffee into the basket.. Best regards. Jerzy K Jka
Thanks for the review this definitely looks like a great grinder. I'll wait for reviews of the Mazzer Philos before I decide though. Hope you have one soon.
Should have a Philos here in around three weeks Bob. In the meantime, just think about whether or not you want to have the opportunity to swap burrs because the DF83V is more flexible for that. Also, are you after espresso or milk based espresso or coffee
One of the key specs you need to include in grinder reviews is the thread pitch. It important to know how if its very touchy, or you can turn it to adjust.
Good idea. I think that would beca worthwhile addition. If I can find that information from the manufacturer. I just wish they included it in the standard list of specs.
@@tomsgrinderlab Deff worth finding and doing a short video of a few of these and explaining thread pitch and grind control. Would surely look forward to that.
Hi Tom, great review, you bring a truely unique approach to reviews and testing, love following you on CoffeeSnobs site too. Having had a conical for a long time, i am looking for flat burr grinder. Considering DF83V or DF83, Niche Duo, or dropping back into the 64mm space with new Mazzer Philos. Espresso and Milk based drinker. Both DF83v and Philos look about same in space requirements. Appreciate your ongoing grinder and burr journey.
Hi Colin and thanks for your post. A 64mm flat is a great option because the dial offers more precise and predictable changes than an 83mm flat. And the more blind taste comparisons I do, the more inclined I am to conclude that for espresso, the difference between 83mm flat and 64mm flat burrs is not discernable in the cup.
Hi Tom. Great video! Can you please elaborate on your comment about 64mm having more precise and predictable adjustments than 83mm? I would expect them to be roughly the same if the thread pitch is the same.
@@tonio3723 coffee nerd aaron discussed the stability of burrs and consistency in generally. I think for espresso only the 64v is very good. I'm getting a 83v today and it's at home before i leave work. The burr carrier is less stable than the 64v. More stability needed for a larger burr. I think the form function and design makes the small burr set easier to stabilize and made the dial adjustable for grind size. The 83v has some more wiggle and the bigger burrs allow more wobble as the dial to change grind is already hard enough. There isn't a bearing between the dial and burr carrier. I agree it's probably more dialable. But is quite a bit larger on the counter. I'll get back to here if i have more or less to add.
BTW, I dont see much review on this regarding its dial control precision nor its repeatability to readjust to a setting used previously. I think it would be a great void filled if this is covered, as I see it being the question for many considering this grinder.
Why dont they use a light few brush hairs up on the bean shute to stop popcorning....seams such a simple solution, how has no one considered it??? Just odd. Id like some credit when someone finally applies this! :-) Imagine a a ring the size of the opening you feed the beams, and the ring has brushes pointing into the center of the ring. very light amount will do.
I like the idea, kind of like a skirt? Popcorning is not a biggie on this grinder though, more so on the niche Duo but even there it's just a minor irritation.
May i ask a question, If you have a pick a grinder from all you have reviewed so far for medium roast/primarily milk-based coffees, What would it be? Thanks.
@@eduardomagana3158 A bit late for this sorry eduardo so aplogies. I have now posted a review of the DF54. Personally I'd be very happy with either of the 54 or 64 Gen 2. The 54 is surprisingly good in the cup.
The Niche looks like a cartoon character. Worse than a Choochoo train...LOL. And this goes to both....WOOD is not a premium thing on mechanical engineering items. Much better with better finish on the body, and just use a matching alum finished cap for the bellows. Not wood! Wood belongs in the forest!
For the full written review please go to www.tomsgrinderlab.com/df83v/
Hi
I have had this grinder for over a week and I must admit that it is ok
In fact, the bellows is not needed and when removed, the grinder becomes more compact.
It is also important for me that the area around the grinder is very clean.
The only thing I will replace is the mug, as it does not have a "rim" which disqualifies me from using it when pouring ground coffee into the basket..
Best regards.
Jerzy K
Jka
Thanks for the review this definitely looks like a great grinder. I'll wait for reviews of the Mazzer Philos before I decide though. Hope you have one soon.
Should have a Philos here in around three weeks Bob. In the meantime, just think about whether or not you want to have the opportunity to swap burrs because the DF83V is more flexible for that.
Also, are you after espresso or milk based espresso or coffee
One of the key specs you need to include in grinder reviews is the thread pitch. It important to know how if its very touchy, or you can turn it to adjust.
Good idea. I think that would beca worthwhile addition. If I can find that information from the manufacturer. I just wish they included it in the standard list of specs.
@@tomsgrinderlab Deff worth finding and doing a short video of a few of these and explaining thread pitch and grind control. Would surely look forward to that.
Hi Tom, great review, you bring a truely unique approach to reviews and testing, love following you on CoffeeSnobs site too. Having had a conical for a long time, i am looking for flat burr grinder. Considering DF83V or DF83, Niche Duo, or dropping back into the 64mm space with new Mazzer Philos. Espresso and Milk based drinker. Both DF83v and Philos look about same in space requirements. Appreciate your ongoing grinder and burr journey.
Hi Colin and thanks for your post. A 64mm flat is a great option because the dial offers more precise and predictable changes than an 83mm flat. And the more blind taste comparisons I do, the more inclined I am to conclude that for espresso, the difference between 83mm flat and 64mm flat burrs is not discernable in the cup.
Hi Tom. Great video! Can you please elaborate on your comment about 64mm having more precise and predictable adjustments than 83mm? I would expect them to be roughly the same if the thread pitch is the same.
@@tonio3723 coffee nerd aaron discussed the stability of burrs and consistency in generally. I think for espresso only the 64v is very good. I'm getting a 83v today and it's at home before i leave work. The burr carrier is less stable than the 64v. More stability needed for a larger burr. I think the form function and design makes the small burr set easier to stabilize and made the dial adjustable for grind size. The 83v has some more wiggle and the bigger burrs allow more wobble as the dial to change grind is already hard enough. There isn't a bearing between the dial and burr carrier. I agree it's probably more dialable. But is quite a bit larger on the counter. I'll get back to here if i have more or less to add.
That makes sense. I was thinking in general terms rather than for two specific models of grinders.
BTW, I dont see much review on this regarding its dial control precision nor its repeatability to readjust to a setting used previously. I think it would be a great void filled if this is covered, as I see it being the question for many considering this grinder.
I like this idea phil and I'll include that as a regular feature in all future reviews. Thanks for the suggestion.
Why dont they use a light few brush hairs up on the bean shute to stop popcorning....seams such a simple solution, how has no one considered it??? Just odd. Id like some credit when someone finally applies this! :-) Imagine a a ring the size of the opening you feed the beams, and the ring has brushes pointing into the center of the ring. very light amount will do.
I like the idea, kind of like a skirt? Popcorning is not a biggie on this grinder though, more so on the niche Duo but even there it's just a minor irritation.
awesome, thanks!
Nice! Finally !!!
Yes, took a while. Blame Covid 😮.
Nice set up and with all the white grinders and decent.
Any review for the Lagom 01 coming up?
Two Decents now actually 😊 no plans for a 01 review unless Lagom ask me. Thanks for your post.
May i ask a question, If you have a pick a grinder from all you have reviewed so far for medium roast/primarily milk-based coffees, What would it be? Thanks.
Definitely the DF64V the burrs are sensational for what you drink.
Review for the df54 coming soon?
Yep
@@tomsgrinderlabI’m trying do decide on the df54 or Df64 gen 2. Which one do you recommend?
@@eduardomagana3158 A bit late for this sorry eduardo so aplogies. I have now posted a review of the DF54. Personally I'd be very happy with either of the 54 or 64 Gen 2. The 54 is surprisingly good in the cup.
The Niche looks like a cartoon character. Worse than a Choochoo train...LOL. And this goes to both....WOOD is not a premium thing on mechanical engineering items. Much better with better finish on the body, and just use a matching alum finished cap for the bellows. Not wood! Wood belongs in the forest!