Hi Scott, How does the schoulder now work two years after surgery. Would be very instructive to hear how what level you are now "back to sport" ?. I myself face the choice if I should do slap repair and a tenodesis. I live in sweden and try to form an idea of what I should do. I have a very physical lifestyle with climbing, sports, work etc. and feel that something must be done if I am to continue my lifestyle. Best regards
Thanks for these videos Scott. I'm an intermediate rock climber and I just went through a bicep tenodesis a week ago to fix 6 months of shoulder pain (ended up being a severe bicep tendonitis case). Your logs have been informative and helpful towards my outlook and keeping me positive and learning to be paitent with my recovery knowing I'll get back to climbing for sure. Glad to hear you're recovering well and slowly getting back to what you love to do!
years later are you happy with the aesthetic look of arm/bicep ? mine is only 3 months post and healing well yet iv noticed its still some what popeyed muscled. i didnt expect it to be perfect as other arm, but a more normal look. just like it to be strong and able to hold weight and not tear.
Dude this is so awesome!!! I just had surgery about 3 months ago and I was starting to feel like I was gonna hit a pleateau but after watching this I feel more motivated than ever!! PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER UPDATED VIDEO, WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR FORM LIFTING HEAVY WEIGHTS!!
Hi Scott, how long before you could do the exercise/stretch with your back and butt against the wall, and knife hands/arms extended up? I am just under 5 weeks post op(waiting patiently for my 6 week appointment), and I have slight more mobility than you did in your 6 week video, but when I try to do to this exercise, my operated side is very very limited. I realize I am early out post op, but I would just really like to know your answer to way lay my fears and concerns. I am a super active 42 year old 5th black belt in Shaolin Kempo, and all I think about 24/7 is getting back to normal no matter how long it takes.
Awesome videos. I'm going to be having a biceps tenodesis after failed slap repair. Did you have the tenodesis done arthroscopically or open? Does the shoulder function any differently? Is it loose or anything?
Do you ever get constant soreness after working out/doing anything with your arm at 6months? I am 5.5 months out, and it started close to my four month mark (when I attempted to go back to the gym), where anything I do, I have soreness which is annoying and frustrating.
I am an athlete heading into a bicep tendonesis in two weeks. Thank you for what you said at 2:00. I’m terrified... but you’re right if I do anything at all I’m constantly trying to work around this injury. And I don’t want to live like this anymore. It’s nice to see you have strength again.
@@KungFuRandur Well I ended up needing rotator cuff repair too so the recovery has been very long. I’m still not back to “normal” yet. But after seeing the camera pictures from the surgery I know it was the right choice. I’ve not been dedicated to regaining any real strength back yet. But in terms of the repair it went well. Pain management was fine. PT isn’t fun but you can get through it. Good luck!
@@danielletilliepoledance thank you! Now 5 days after the surgery it feels very good. I have minimal pain and good mobility. I have also seen the camera pictures and it looked like it was well needed.
Great video man I had the exact same surgery I’m 4 weeks post op. Quick question when you started doing more range of motion exercises did you ever feel like a quick pinch in your shoulder kind of like a tendon slipping over scare tissue. I don’t feel it all the time just when I try to lift my arm slightly or do certain exercises?
I had the exact surgery you had around the same time. Your surgeon did a good job from a cosmetic standpoint. My cosmetic result was so bad I had to have my tenodesis revised.
@@03SportyChick03 I can't seem to find an option to email you through youtube. If you want to point me toward how to do that, that's fine. I also don't mind giving you my junk email address if you wanna just email me with a throwaway account and I can send pics that way. Whatever works for you.
@@03SportyChick03 also, you should probably accept that it will never look totally the same. I'm a PT by vocation. The long head of your bicep goes into your shoulder joint and the tendon sort of 'pulleys' over the head of your humerus. That lift of the tendon creates a look of proximal bulk that you just can't really get once it's out of the shoulder joint. That said, a good surgeon can come damn close. I've had a buffoon do my first surgery and a competent surgeon do my second, so you can def tell a physical difference. I'm guessing you have a noticeable popeye deformity still?
Hey man, in your older video you mentioned you did core work while you were in the sling. Could you elaborate on the types of core exercises? For example, in the sling, are you doing core standing up or lying down?
I have a video of me exercising on my channel. Basically, anything that doesn't hurt your shoulder is okay. If you don't have personal training experience, etc., just use trial and error. Be cautious,but definitely exercise! It's good for rehab
Hey Scott, thank you for making the videos. At what point were you able to train your arms? Back? Chest? I am about 1 month post surgery and I know I have a long way back but I’m looking forward to just being able to do something
My shoulder has been really good. I’m a little bit older so I’m really careful and don’t lift as heavy as I used to. I lift mostly for hypertrophy and I would say that I have as much muscle as I had prior to getting hurt.
I have the same issue as you Am in active athlete I lift weights and also a boxer I can’t do anything as it was I have a limited rotation in my shoulder Inform me please if you have something new about the recovery thank you
If you had full range of motion before surgery, did you have the surgery because of the pain you were having? I need this surgery you had cause I have pain while resting especially at night. Just afraid of having the surgery and it ends up not stopping my pain. I hope you respond to this. Thank you! 😀
I really only had pain when my arm was moved in the right plane of motion to make it happen, or when being in an awkward position at work. I didn't have much pain at rest
I'm 10 months out. I can workout everything except still lots of pain with chest exercises like laying on an incline bench using dumbbells. OUCH. It pulls on the reattachment of the tendon. I go easy-ish on shoulder day still. You have this problem too?
@@jonheber2474 takes about 5 months until you can lift. I'm 16 months out and still struggle a bit on chest day. Dumbell presses are tough. I hit a plateau at 8 months and got over it when the gyms closed down to covid. I'd say month 14 or 15 it got considerably better. In my opinion, it'll plateau if you don't take some sort of supplement to help the healing. Also, sit on a fitness ball daily and move your shoulders in circles to get a small pump in them to bring in fresh blood, oxygen, and nutrients. That's what's helped me the most. This is about a 2 year recovery in my opinion. I'm starting to question moving the tendon down like this. But it's getting better. Just very slowly.
Have you noticed that the bicep on the operated arm does not pop up or get as tense as the normal arm? Also, do you have a kind of flat part to the bicep near the shoulder?
@@ScottCopenhaver That's good to hear. I had a tenodesis a couple of years ago and I've noticed in certain positions and angles the biceps don't tense like they used to, just stays a little spongy! I've also lost strength on shoulder presses and flat dumbbell presses. How's your strength?
1:43 that's what I've accepted as well. Gotta get it fixed. I made serious gains in the gym prior to the injury and since then, it's been 1.5 years and the gains I've made have been remarkably slower because of the comprises I've had to make. I still can only go about 70% on chest exercises as they hurt the most. Had I just got it fixed a year ago or so I'd probably be at 100% a long time ago. I just didn't want to be in a sling half the summer. Plus I've had so many other surgeries that already compromise me that I just told myself "no more surgeries." But I gotta get this done. It hurts to sleep on the shoulder. I had a labral repair back in 2005 too. Thanks for the videos.
@EMILIO much better. Shoulder still isn't the same (as expected) but just have to do De-load weeks in the gym about every 12 weeks and it's fine after that. I should be doing those anyway but before hand I never really took a week off.
Im probably the same age as you, and based on my recent diagnosis of SLAP tear. It's likely I have had the tear for my entire life, but it has just slowly gotten worse. Based on this , I wonder if I will feel a dramatic improvement post surgery , especially from the tenodesis. Because I think that my biceps were yanking on the labrum.
How are you doing now? I have surgery planned in 1 week for slap repair and biceps tenodesis but I only have a small tear in the biceps tendon. I'm quite terrified of possibly getting the popeye deformation. Any thoughts or help on this is much appreciated. Thanks.
@@jimsolmer1292 how have you done? I had mine done 23 weeks ago (5 months and 8 days), and I’m feeling pretty hopeful. Today wasn’t a great day but I made a couple jumps in the weights I’m using for overhead presses and rows.
@@blairrogers8449 mine came out retty horrific actually. I had a huge hull sachs lesion and had to get a remplissage procedure as well. I have very little range of motion right now and it will never be the same as before I injured it. Are you able to throw a baseball hard or swim hard?
@@jimsolmer1292 I just started to toss again. 45 feet very little effort. Haven’t swam yet but when it’s warm enough I expect to be able to. My active flexion is 175-180° (same as left healthy arm), external is about 125-130° close to the left, passive internal is 45° same as left. I was very careful with my bicep, not even really lifting a cup of water to drink for 8 weeks. After that, I did hours of stretching and at home pt a day. Still behind because of tenodesis. It sucks and throwing doesn’t feel anywhere near the same, but the workouts are fun since I’m just lifting twice a week with a pt now lol.
Yours are some of the better labrum repair and recovery videos out on RUclips, much appreciated!
Hi Scott,
How does the schoulder now work two years after surgery. Would be very instructive to hear how what level you are now "back to sport" ?.
I myself face the choice if I should do slap repair and a tenodesis.
I live in sweden and try to form an idea of what I should do.
I have a very physical lifestyle with climbing, sports, work etc. and feel that something must be done if I am to continue my lifestyle.
Best regards
Thanks for these videos Scott. I'm an intermediate rock climber and I just went through a bicep tenodesis a week ago to fix 6 months of shoulder pain (ended up being a severe bicep tendonitis case). Your logs have been informative and helpful towards my outlook and keeping me positive and learning to be paitent with my recovery knowing I'll get back to climbing for sure. Glad to hear you're recovering well and slowly getting back to what you love to do!
Don't worry you'll be back before you know it!
How are you doing now? Would love to know
years later are you happy with the aesthetic look of arm/bicep ? mine is only 3 months post and healing well yet iv noticed its still some what popeyed muscled. i didnt expect it to be perfect as other arm, but a more normal look. just like it to be strong and able to hold weight and not tear.
Dude this is so awesome!!! I just had surgery about 3 months ago and I was starting to feel like I was gonna hit a pleateau but after watching this I feel more motivated than ever!! PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER UPDATED VIDEO, WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR FORM LIFTING HEAVY WEIGHTS!!
did they repair the labrum?
How are you doing now brotha ?
Hi Scott, how long before you could do the exercise/stretch with your back and butt against the wall, and knife hands/arms extended up? I am just under 5 weeks post op(waiting patiently for my 6 week appointment), and I have slight more mobility than you did in your 6 week video, but when I try to do to this exercise, my operated side is very very limited. I realize I am early out post op, but I would just really like to know your answer to way lay my fears and concerns. I am a super active 42 year old 5th black belt in Shaolin Kempo, and all I think about 24/7 is getting back to normal no matter how long it takes.
Hey Jan! How's your shoulder doing now after all this time? Did you have any issues going back to Shaolin Kempo?
I am 5 weeks post op from the same surgery,,,, the pain and discomfort sucks.
Awesome videos. I'm going to be having a biceps tenodesis after failed slap repair. Did you have the tenodesis done arthroscopically or open? Does the shoulder function any differently? Is it loose or anything?
Do you ever get constant soreness after working out/doing anything with your arm at 6months? I am 5.5 months out, and it started close to my four month mark (when I attempted to go back to the gym), where anything I do, I have soreness which is annoying and frustrating.
I am an athlete heading into a bicep tendonesis in two weeks. Thank you for what you said at 2:00. I’m terrified... but you’re right if I do anything at all I’m constantly trying to work around this injury. And I don’t want to live like this anymore. It’s nice to see you have strength again.
how is it gone? I will have the surgery next week.
@@KungFuRandur Well I ended up needing rotator cuff repair too so the recovery has been very long. I’m still not back to “normal” yet. But after seeing the camera pictures from the surgery I know it was the right choice. I’ve not been dedicated to regaining any real strength back yet. But in terms of the repair it went well. Pain management was fine. PT isn’t fun but you can get through it. Good luck!
@@danielletilliepoledance thank you! Now 5 days after the surgery it feels very good. I have minimal pain and good mobility. I have also seen the camera pictures and it looked like it was well needed.
@@danielletilliepoledance which RC? Infra or supraspinatus?
@@KungFuRandur update?
Can you please make another video regarding the surgery after around two years?
Yes I like to se some update now how it going.
did you get the labrum repaired or removed with the tenodesis?
Great video man I had the exact same surgery I’m 4 weeks post op. Quick question when you started doing more range of motion exercises did you ever feel like a quick pinch in your shoulder kind of like a tendon slipping over scare tissue. I don’t feel it all the time just when I try to lift my arm slightly or do certain exercises?
Hey! I would love to hear how you are doing now
I had the exact surgery you had around the same time. Your surgeon did a good job from a cosmetic standpoint.
My cosmetic result was so bad I had to have my tenodesis revised.
Adam Fletcher - How did the revision go? Did you originally have a subpectoral or suprapectoral tenodesis done?
@@03SportyChick03 subpec. I had a good revision result. I'd be happy to send pics.
@@caboosecc that would be awesome, can you send them through RUclips?! I had a subpec done and am not the happiest with the cosmetic results.
@@03SportyChick03 I can't seem to find an option to email you through youtube. If you want to point me toward how to do that, that's fine. I also don't mind giving you my junk email address if you wanna just email me with a throwaway account and I can send pics that way. Whatever works for you.
@@03SportyChick03 also, you should probably accept that it will never look totally the same. I'm a PT by vocation. The long head of your bicep goes into your shoulder joint and the tendon sort of 'pulleys' over the head of your humerus. That lift of the tendon creates a look of proximal bulk that you just can't really get once it's out of the shoulder joint. That said, a good surgeon can come damn close. I've had a buffoon do my first surgery and a competent surgeon do my second, so you can def tell a physical difference. I'm guessing you have a noticeable popeye deformity still?
Hey man, in your older video you mentioned you did core work while you were in the sling. Could you elaborate on the types of core exercises? For example, in the sling, are you doing core standing up or lying down?
I have a video of me exercising on my channel. Basically, anything that doesn't hurt your shoulder is okay. If you don't have personal training experience, etc., just use trial and error. Be cautious,but definitely exercise! It's good for rehab
How long after until you were able to get back to mechanic work. I'm a mechanic and I'm worried about my career
Hey Scott, thank you for making the videos. At what point were you able to train your arms? Back? Chest? I am about 1 month post surgery and I know I have a long way back but I’m looking forward to just being able to do something
I'm not sure when I started strength training. I listened to the docs. I think it was around 3 months
Scott Copenhaver Thank you for responding. I’m now about 2 months post surgery and it is really improving
@@ScottCopenhaver what exercises did you do with resistance in the mean time?
Hey David! After all this time how has your shoulder been treating you in the gym?
My shoulder has been really good. I’m a little bit older so I’m really careful and don’t lift as heavy as I used to. I lift mostly for hypertrophy and I would say that I have as much muscle as I had prior to getting hurt.
I have the same issue as you
Am in active athlete I lift weights and also a boxer
I can’t do anything as it was
I have a limited rotation in my shoulder
Inform me please if you have something new about the recovery thank you
If you had full range of motion before surgery, did you have the surgery because of the pain you were having? I need this surgery you had cause I have pain while resting especially at night. Just afraid of having the surgery and it ends up not stopping my pain. I hope you respond to this. Thank you! 😀
I really only had pain when my arm was moved in the right plane of motion to make it happen, or when being in an awkward position at work. I didn't have much pain at rest
I'm 10 months out. I can workout everything except still lots of pain with chest exercises like laying on an incline bench using dumbbells. OUCH. It pulls on the reattachment of the tendon. I go easy-ish on shoulder day still. You have this problem too?
3 months out and hurts too much to train chest and shoulders. Sucks. Any update from yourself Vince?
@@jonheber2474 takes about 5 months until you can lift. I'm 16 months out and still struggle a bit on chest day. Dumbell presses are tough. I hit a plateau at 8 months and got over it when the gyms closed down to covid. I'd say month 14 or 15 it got considerably better. In my opinion, it'll plateau if you don't take some sort of supplement to help the healing. Also, sit on a fitness ball daily and move your shoulders in circles to get a small pump in them to bring in fresh blood, oxygen, and nutrients. That's what's helped me the most. This is about a 2 year recovery in my opinion. I'm starting to question moving the tendon down like this. But it's getting better. Just very slowly.
Have you noticed that the bicep on the operated arm does not pop up or get as tense as the normal arm? Also, do you have a kind of flat part to the bicep near the shoulder?
It does look a little different than it used to, but I barely notice it. I haven't had any problems getting full activation of the biceps muscle
@@ScottCopenhaver That's good to hear. I had a tenodesis a couple of years ago and I've noticed in certain positions and angles the biceps don't tense like they used to, just stays a little spongy! I've also lost strength on shoulder presses and flat dumbbell presses. How's your strength?
@@samjarea My strength is actually better than before the surgery!
1:43 that's what I've accepted as well. Gotta get it fixed. I made serious gains in the gym prior to the injury and since then, it's been 1.5 years and the gains I've made have been remarkably slower because of the comprises I've had to make. I still can only go about 70% on chest exercises as they hurt the most. Had I just got it fixed a year ago or so I'd probably be at 100% a long time ago. I just didn't want to be in a sling half the summer. Plus I've had so many other surgeries that already compromise me that I just told myself "no more surgeries." But I gotta get this done. It hurts to sleep on the shoulder. I had a labral repair back in 2005 too. Thanks for the videos.
Sorry to hear you need surgery, but good luck! The faster you get it done, the faster you can start kicking ass at the gym
@@ScottCopenhaver I'm on wk 3 of recovery. Thanks!
did they repair your superior labrum?
Hey! How's your should pain now after all this time?
@EMILIO much better. Shoulder still isn't the same (as expected) but just have to do De-load weeks in the gym about every 12 weeks and it's fine after that. I should be doing those anyway but before hand I never really took a week off.
What caused your injury?
I am post 4 months for Bicep Tenodesis, my bicep is sore when i touch it and it hurts (if that makes sense) did you experience that?
No mine didn't really get sore to the touch. Maybe yours is tight ? I know the PT and I did a lot of stretching on the biceps
Im probably the same age as you, and based on my recent diagnosis of SLAP tear. It's likely I have had the tear for my entire life, but it has just slowly gotten worse. Based on this , I wonder if I will feel a dramatic improvement post surgery , especially from the tenodesis. Because I think that my biceps were yanking on the labrum.
How are you doing now? I have surgery planned in 1 week for slap repair and biceps tenodesis but I only have a small tear in the biceps tendon. I'm quite terrified of possibly getting the popeye deformation. Any thoughts or help on this is much appreciated. Thanks.
@@jimsolmer1292 how have you done? I had mine done 23 weeks ago (5 months and 8 days), and I’m feeling pretty hopeful. Today wasn’t a great day but I made a couple jumps in the weights I’m using for overhead presses and rows.
@@blairrogers8449 mine came out retty horrific actually. I had a huge hull sachs lesion and had to get a remplissage procedure as well. I have very little range of motion right now and it will never be the same as before I injured it. Are you able to throw a baseball hard or swim hard?
@@jimsolmer1292 I just started to toss again. 45 feet very little effort. Haven’t swam yet but when it’s warm enough I expect to be able to. My active flexion is 175-180° (same as left healthy arm), external is about 125-130° close to the left, passive internal is 45° same as left. I was very careful with my bicep, not even really lifting a cup of water to drink for 8 weeks. After that, I did hours of stretching and at home pt a day. Still behind because of tenodesis. It sucks and throwing doesn’t feel anywhere near the same, but the workouts are fun since I’m just lifting twice a week with a pt now lol.
@@blairrogers8449 do you think you'll ever be able to throw hard again like before you got injured?
I'm getting my surgery next month. I trying to find out how soon I can go back to work out.
Don't rush it. But definitely exercise the rest of your body safely!
Helpful, thanks!
How many total anchors were used for the repair?
3!
Can you throw hard like baseball or swim hard? That's what I'm sacred of not being able to do