Rega & Heed - Jazz at the Pawnshop
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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2023
- “High Life”
Arne Domnérus, Bengt Hallberg, Lars Erstrand, Georg Riedel & Egil Johansen
Jazz at the Pawnshop (1976)
Rega P8, Nagaoka MP200
Heed Quasar III
Heed Thesis Lambda
Heed Thesis Pi
Heed Thesis Gamma
Heed Enigma 5 
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A wonderfully direct sounding system. Enjoyable!
Très belle installation et surtout une belle collection de vinyles
Just beautiful! Love your comment about no fuss with the Rega. Going to be getting back into vinyl and I’m very tempted with the Rega Planer6 and ania mc. Love the British sound. Have always owned made in UK speakers. First album I’ll play is my Led Zeppelin Classic Records albums.
P6 is a superb choice, it’s worth spending a bit more for the Ania Pro (Ania isn’t a bad sounding cartridge but gave me a few problems with inner groove distortion). Thanks for listening 👍🏻
Nice setup. I have a heed orbit PSU for my rega p25. Heed kit reminds me of my Meridian 200 series kit, cheers from 🇺🇸
Classic british compact hifi, I love the half width format!
Ever check out Shahinian acoustics?? The best in speakers.
Not heard any but I’m aware they were an inspiration in the design of these Heed speakers and the non-direct aspect
All those records and they play this one...
Wow great sound! How do you like the P8? How does it compare to your other tables you’ve had?
Thanks, I love the P8! It’s so nicely balanced in its sound and great to live with. No fuss maintenance for the long run like all Rega’s. Sound is precise, detailed and sharp without being cold, thin or clinical. Sounds mature at the same time retains what the P1, P2, P3 etc have in the musicality, fun factor.
More vids with the arena 👍🏻
How does the MP200 compare with the AT Microline cartridge you have used on this turntable. Which do you prefer?
I am using the ATVM95 Shibata at present and will soon be due to replace it. In the past I’ve used Nagaoka MP11 Boron which I also enjoyed.
I’m using Heed Obelisk Mk 2 with X2 power supply - Queatar and PSU.
Many thanks
I have a slight preference for the MP200’s character with most music I listen to, but I’d say given the prices these days the AT-VM740ML is better value for money. Can’t really fault either to be honest, the Nagaoka is a bit more lush, the AT a bit more fresh. It’s down to taste and synergy ultimately. I’ve heard the VM95ML but not done any meaningful comparison so not sure how much of an improvement the generator makes between the VM95 and VM540/740, might be worth trying the ML stylus if you fancy a tweak to the sound, seems to be the most popular. The Rigby mod for the VM95 is highly regarded too, I’ve seen a lot of positive feedback about it
@@gustoaudio8711 thanks for the reply and I appreciate your opinion. I recently added a Heed X2 to my Heed Obelisk and it’s now working as a dual mono.
For about 2 years I’ve used the ATVM95 SH which has the Shibata.
It has a more rich and fuller midrange than the AT440MLb I’ve used in the past. However, during the past week I’ve returned the Nagaoka MP11 Boron to the system, it’s better than both the AT cartridge’s in my system.
When it comes to a stylus replacement I will probably opt for an MP200
The X2 has elevated the performance of the system very nicely too, a little more detail with deeper bass and greater soundstage, very pleased. I bought it as a used bargain. Thanks again.
X2 is a very worthwhile upgrade! Even with the si3 where it only increased power marginally, the improvements to soundstage, bass and resolution was noticeable. Are you still using the RX3’s?
@@gustoaudio8711 yes I have the RX3’s still in my system, I have enjoyed using them, however I will be looking at replacing them in future. I also use a pair of Reference 3A Dulcet stand mounted speakers which are good.
Any recommendations for floorstanders to go with the Heed ?
@@sam66hazmalNever easy recommending speakers as it’s so personal and room acoustics usually play such a part. But I’d take a look at Monitor Audio Silvers, Kef could work well too. With smaller speakers I had good results with PMC DB1 Gold and Kef LS50’s, Kef’s R series would probably be even better and older models can be found at good prices. I’d imagine Dynaudio and Harbeth would work very nicely. If you can find Heed Enigmas the synergy is fantastic of course! They practically take room acoustics out of the equation too. I saw some being advertised on Pink Fish not long ago for around £1200, not cheap but still a bargain if in budget
Tweeter is at 60 degrees off axis. We want Spinorama on these.
What is spinorama?
@@gustoaudio8711 CEA2034 measurements - On Axis, Off axis, Listening window, Directivity index, Predicted in room response. Someone should send these to Amir or Erin.
@@gustoaudio8711 Don't know what YT did with my comment. That is measurements according CEA2034 standard, include on axis, off axis responses, direct and reflected sound power, listening window , predicted in room response and directivity indexes.
this last saturday i put to play a record that i didn´t heard since maybe mid 90´s ,but what a pleasure to hear it again , the famous "Blue train " from John Coltrane, what surprised me most was the quality of the sound this using now a 76 turntable ,the SL-3310 from Technics with a eps-270 ed technics by nagaoka, it sounded perfect ,this using a A-717MKII from 1994, using mission speakers ,the 80´s, 780.
Love that record, is yours the clear vinyl as well?
Thanks...
@@tima.478 no just black , i avoid colour records, but i´ve seen them ,there was a time when all coloured records were only made of wax now i don´t know about it much, it´s evolution , but yes it´s very well recorded the "blue train " but because in the past i heard it a lot i had to stay around 20 years without listening to it so i didn´t remenber how well it was recorded, the same happens with others as "kind of blue" maybe i´ll put it to play tonight ,i heard it for the last time in early 80´s , also i do like hearing the album live in tunisia by Art Blackey and the Messengers(there is more than one with this name) and some Buddy Richie records too, keep listening to good music and some don´t even like jazz music, they don´t know what they´re missing
Thanks for the response. Mine just happened to be a clear pressing. I was totally surprised when I removed it from the sleeve. I'm generally not a fan either, especially of colored records as the quality generally, not 100% of the time, suffers from the manufacturing process of these types of records...which I'm sure you know. Man, I was just listening to Kind of Blue the other day. It's pretty much in my weekly rotation. I have a so-so pressing but I still enjoy it. Especially Flamenco Sketches. (Miles D.) @@RUfromthe40s
Some of the records with the worst surface noise I can remember in recent years were on limited edition clear vinyl, but Analogue Productions highest quality reissues (UHQR) are pressed on 200gram transparent vinyl and supposedly sound incredible. I find it all hit and miss, I have some great sounding coloured vinyl and plenty of terrible ones too, but the same with black and clear vinyl. So many variables!
Yeah, you're right...a lot that could go either way, wrong or right. This is a very cool video that briefly touches on the issue of color pressings and black vinyl being better at carrying the sound.ruclips.net/video/Yd2SW-Fys6I/видео.htmlsi=0HtBeaIA-ng7a9ey @@gustoaudio8711
Nice setup! I am currently building a vinyl system with a Rega P6 and Heed amplification. I am hesitating between the Elixir and the Obelisk for a start... Hopefully, I will get to the Thesis line on day. 😉 What is the brand/model of your isolation platform? Thanks!
Great choices. Elixir might actually the component that gave me the most musical joy in all of my journey to date in a simple system with P8, Abacus DAC and Rega RX3’s. Great sound and so nice to live with. I miss it.
Of course I’d be lying if I said Obelisk and Thesis aren’t capable of punchier, deeper and more sophisticated sound, but there’s something about that little integrated and the matching DAC that are an absolute pleasure, it’s so easy to forget about the technicalities of HiFi. Probably more than with any other component I’ve heard
Isolation platform is from HiFi Racks Ltd, a 40mm thick slab of walnut.
Rega suggest you place the PSU as far away from the TT as possible, not next to it.
I’ve had it further away before, I couldn’t find any problem with it sitting here
That's good info, thank you. Lovely setup, by the way. I have the P3 50th with the Nagaoka MP-200 cart, I see you're a fan of this cart as well. 👍 @@gustoaudio8711
it sounds good but in reality one can´t hear the quality of the system just the quality of the michrofone on the camera converted and compacted by youtube
True an iPhone mic and YT compression is never going to capture the full quality but you still get a sense of a lot of what is there. I think you can get a sense that the frequency range is balanced wherever the listener is positioned in the room (right up to the extremes), that the image also hangs together as you move around. Also scale, holigraphy, sense of air and space. This speaker design is like an antidote to problematic room-speaker relationships, and I think the way it’s captured even with an iPhone mic you can sense that acoustic conditions in the room are much less influential on the result than if you record typical direct loudspeakers
@@gustoaudio8711 i agree with you but having my system with a line from the computer output without any efect just plain sound of the sound board from altec(at least is what it says there) it sounds great but one when putting a record to play it sounds a lot better and it´s a technics from the 70´s ,with a good but old cartridge from shure with original stylus bought at the time because in the city where i live which is district capital ,the more close hi-fi or music store it´s 400 KM´s away ,he used to buy 10 new needles for each diferent cartridge he had at home, mine was a SL-1710 (78)with the 207C cartridge which was developed for technics by Nagaoka as they asked recentelly to do another for the release of the SL-1000R or GR ,which also sounds great so i can listen to good sound from youtube but when hearing another source it tops the sound of the computer but also a friend of mine with is expensive iphone(it cost more than alf of his monthly wage), recorded a video with it´s pro-ject turntable and also sounds good(lot´s of high´s), but in his system ,i don´t even have a reference for how bad it sounds with the horrible 2mred from Ortofon which used to be a brand that we could refer as quality in all their cartridges at the time , i don´t know if you remenber Dual turntables in early 80´s having a high quality in sound using OM type cartridges that don´t come near or bad as this new series OM of Ortofon cartridges and stylus ,in the side of the cartridge it said DUAL (on the ones installed in their turntables), it´s a bit subjective , i´m using now a dual mono amplifier from Pioneer with some big Mission towers(late 80´s)with a SL-1000 mkII from technics with M91ED from shure mkIII (i think)with a frequency response of 20-20khz but also have a Grado with a frequency response from 15hz-32khz and the sound is very good compared to new expensive systems, i only made this remark because there are several videos that are ridiculous when comparing cartridges like if we could hear a sound close to what they sound, but i understand what you mean ,miracles don´t happen and you´re showing a very good sound ,at least that´s what i heard from my computer , now all hi-fi components from my father belong to me ,i have more equipment than i need for all my life ,i´m assembling now a SP-1 with all the parts my father bought in the 70´s, that i´m thinking to conect to a accuphse amplifier and some old Celestion speakers that i´m in doubt if i use some JBL very close to some old altec lansing from the studio my father assembled in 1971, being the L in JBL for lansing so i guess they will sound better after restored ,i think i´ll never upload a video for youtube after reading some hilarious but sad coments, after joining my father´s record colection to mine i think i have at least 4.500 records of Jazz recorded from mid 40´s till late 70´s, some critisize Miles Davis for it´s change in style and band in the 70´s but i do love those albums he had to be ahead of all and when mixing is sound to modern at the time funky sound with uah uah and fat cat pedals on the guitar with the sound of bass and drums characteristic of those years sound to me very good ,bitches brew is an LP that i listened everyday last week but didn´t hear it since the 80´s it felt like a incredible new sound , allthough i love all older forms of Jazz having also a lot of records from rock bands and other styles more recent ,like Soul Mining from The The(two songs) or Magnetic Fields and loving some new bands of what they call classic rock or psychedelic and new folk bands spreading world wide ,some say music is horrible today but, like in other times ,they don´t know where to look only if in front of their eyes. now i´m listening to a old Sun Ra doble LP with his arkestra, no noises are heard when music is playing in most of my records ,almost no humidity in the air where i live ,i think it helped. No matter what, it sure sounds great you´re video
Wich turntable sounds better to you the rega or goldnote?
I’ve been asked this a few times, it’s a matter of taste really and without comparing side by side with the same cartridge it’s hard to say which sounds best. I’d say the Gold Note has a more solid authoritative sound, more emphasis on the lower midrange (you could call it a rosier or more romantic sound). The Rega’s emphasis is more on the upper mids, it’s a bit snappier but no lack of weight either. Both time really well, the Gold Note seems like a direct drive in its solidity, Rega is the more fluid rhythmically engaging player. I do much prefer the Rega arm, in part due to the terrible arm lift mechanisms on Gold Note tables (mine is definitely not a one off in that respect either). To cut a long story short, my overall preference is for the P8. The design is lovely in a completely different way, but not to everyone’s taste. I find the sound balance perfect, mature but still fun. But if it was possible to fit a Rega arm onto the Gold Note Giglio I would do that! (Gold Note make arm board mounts to fit their own arms to other decks like Rega, but not vice versa unfortunately)
Interesting to note that I have a P3 50th, so same tone arm as your P8 and I'm running the same MP-200 cart. But, the front edge of my cart sits much closer to the front edge of my tone arm. Yours, not so much. I am tempted to replicate your cart position to see If there are any real, discernible differences. 🤔
The alignment I use is closest to Lofgren B I think, the Rega standard is Stephenson which probably brings it forward a few mm. The alignment tool I use is called Schön Schablone type II
I recently used the Mofi Geo Disc alignment tool which placed my cart overhang pretty much exactly as yours. I also tried the MP-300, which was very nice as well, but I still prefer the MP-200, just a hair more...thanks.@@gustoaudio8711
Class room
What is that annoying green dot moving aound the screen? Those amps look like they've bought Naim's old amp cases! hey, maybe I'll try pointing my speakers at the ceiling too! NOT!
Chrome bumpered, yes. But these components have a build quality far superior to the old Naim boxes. Speakers are non-directional design, nothing to do with pointing a normal direct pair at the ceiling. And the green dot, I don’t know, something on the camera lens I guess.
Heed my warning 😢also put the psu as far away from the tone arm as possible, to the left of the turntable not to the right like he has it. Just saying.
I don’t detect any problems where it is positioned, I don’t think the Neo is really creating significant enough EMI/RFI to pollute the signal unless it’s sat right next to the cartridge
Ridiculous speakers. 😂😂😂😂 Oh look at me, I’m a special speaker firing up… 😂 No one serious about hifi would ever consider this.
What do you know about them? Have you been in a room with them?
Horrible record and those speakers omg upgrade
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