Good stuff Schneb. Im doing a budget build on a '73 232 for my CJ5. I will be using a little less cam and a small chamber head from an older late 60's 232. Im surprised that more folks dont look for those old heads for their jeep builds. They seem to be a well kept secret.
@@SchnebsGarage something like that. Yes they are getting rare. Some 4.2's had better heads too. They were used on the J series trucks, wagoneers and some AMC cars.
Tjanknyiu for tje videos! I'm currently deciding on a cam for my 85 CJ7, 4.2,....why did you go with the high energy cam instead of the "off road" cam? Thank you in advance
Strictly speaking I'm not building a dedicated offroader. The main use of this thing is driving the kids to hockey games and practices in the winter. Economy and a little more grunt for blasting through a foot of snow is what I was after.
@@SchnebsGarage thank you. Realistically, that's what mine will be for. But I have open 2.73's with 32x11.5x15 and I'm in Maryland to ill be blasting through 6-8" max😅...i did get a centerforce clutch to help such a mechanical disadvantage and just good insurance. Want a little more grunt without the sacrifice of bottom end, I reckon. Thanks for the videos.
@@AR_420 Again pretty much same setup as me, 2.73's but I do have the factory tracloc in the back which is nice, just not the best by any stretch. Its a good setup, drives nice on the highway ...I guess ... its certainly feels like an 82 Jeep but has a little something when you need to pass unlike a stock setup. I'm giving this a year to see how it fits me then I may just do a SB Chevy swap.
@@SchnebsGarage, that is where I'm at exactly! Wanted to see how a mild cam treated someone in a similar set up and I got extremely lucky. Same with any future swap. Sigh of relief! Again, thank you. Helped me out tremendously! Was at a crossroads of sorts. Too many ways to make an expensive and regretful decision.
Hi i was wondering if you have any advice on the off road cam i have a 79 with a 258 that was compleatly rebuilt 7 years ago it is just a toy so not many miles on it it bent a rod and after replacing it the lifter is colapst i have the head off it and every thing looks great so far im hopping its just the cam the shop that built it last time called it a r.v. cam
I've used CompCams almost exclusively since the 90's. They've always handled whatever I toss at them whether it was 4 wheelin, dirt track racing or street use. Never had one fail even with stupid levels of abuse by yours truly ;). As for results in this particular application I can say it idles well, sounds good and for the very limited test drive I did (about 1km) ran fine. This project is still in the works so its not plated yet for daily driving and I didnt want to drive it too much while still building her so I'll have to get back to you in a few months with actual real world performance.
@@jarrettembry643 Jeeps pretty much in limbo. Drove it about 1k on and off, some light off roading. Everything working perfectly at this point until I find some money and motivation to get back at it.
Am I better off ordering special tools to rebuild my Yz 85 and what tools do I really need I have no tools so I’m gonna need sockets but do I need like impact drivers and flywheel holder
Impact drivers are not necessary for that job, YZ85's are fairly simple. Are you doing both top and bottom end? If its just the top end you can get by with just a standard socket set and a few screwdrivers. A torque wrench is about the only special tool you would use. The trickiest part there would be the piston ring install and you could simply use a small flat screwdriver to help compress it and your fingers. Other than that its just nuts and bolt no biggie. The bottom end is really where the 'special' tools come in. Flywheel Puller, Case Splitter, Clutch Holder etc are the 3 main things you'd want to make life simpler. A press of some sort is also handy for installing the bearings into the case sides...but you can bypass that with the freezer and oven trick if you dont mind waiting a few hours. Hope this helps !!
I did the top end but my buddy had coolant in the bottom and And cooked the bearings, I did wise co top end and I’m gonna do wiseco bottom end, but how did I get the bearings out I can buy the crank puller n installer case splitter and do I really need a clutch holder, also I have no tools so I’ll be costly for socket set and screw drivers, AND then them. Tools, BUT I can get someone to do it but it will be the same price as the tools I’m new to bikes I did the top end myself and I changed the reed valves my self idk if I can do the bottom and tho I wouldn’t wanna half it apart and yah know ALSO HOW LONG HOW MANY HOUR THEY TELL ME 6 hours 4- 6 hours at 100 a hour (I’m Canadian ) But wouldn’t this be a quick job for them with the tools and know how like 2-3 hours, thank you very much for the reply
@@randomreviews563the bottom end can be a bit of a chore even with the right tools. A lot of folks will start em and realize they've gotten in over their heads, then just sell the bike in pieces. I've started this way with three project bikes if you looked at some of my builds lol. My personal feeling is if you've never done a bottom end and don't have the tools, its probably best that you find someone who's done it before to at least give you some guidance. I've been doing this stuff for over 40 years so easy to me is not necessarily easy to everyone.
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Good stuff Schneb. Im doing a budget build on a '73 232 for my CJ5. I will be using a little less cam and a small chamber head from an older late 60's 232. Im surprised that more folks dont look for those old heads for their jeep builds. They seem to be a well kept secret.
Probably getting hard to find decent 232 heads. Think the last year they made the 232 was 79?
@@SchnebsGarage something like that. Yes they are getting rare. Some 4.2's had better heads too. They were used on the J series trucks, wagoneers and some AMC cars.
Tjanknyiu for tje videos! I'm currently deciding on a cam for my 85 CJ7, 4.2,....why did you go with the high energy cam instead of the "off road" cam? Thank you in advance
Strictly speaking I'm not building a dedicated offroader. The main use of this thing is driving the kids to hockey games and practices in the winter. Economy and a little more grunt for blasting through a foot of snow is what I was after.
@@SchnebsGarage thank you. Realistically, that's what mine will be for. But I have open 2.73's with 32x11.5x15 and I'm in Maryland to ill be blasting through 6-8" max😅...i did get a centerforce clutch to help such a mechanical disadvantage and just good insurance. Want a little more grunt without the sacrifice of bottom end, I reckon. Thanks for the videos.
@@AR_420 Again pretty much same setup as me, 2.73's but I do have the factory tracloc in the back which is nice, just not the best by any stretch. Its a good setup, drives nice on the highway ...I guess ... its certainly feels like an 82 Jeep but has a little something when you need to pass unlike a stock setup. I'm giving this a year to see how it fits me then I may just do a SB Chevy swap.
@@SchnebsGarage, that is where I'm at exactly! Wanted to see how a mild cam treated someone in a similar set up and I got extremely lucky. Same with any future swap. Sigh of relief! Again, thank you. Helped me out tremendously! Was at a crossroads of sorts. Too many ways to make an expensive and regretful decision.
Hi i was wondering if you have any advice on the off road cam i have a 79 with a 258 that was compleatly rebuilt 7 years ago it is just a toy so not many miles on it it bent a rod and after replacing it the lifter is colapst i have the head off it and every thing looks great so far im hopping its just the cam the shop that built it last time called it a r.v. cam
Why comp cams and what has your result been? how does it run?
I've used CompCams almost exclusively since the 90's. They've always handled whatever I toss at them whether it was 4 wheelin, dirt track racing or street use. Never had one fail even with stupid levels of abuse by yours truly ;). As for results in this particular application I can say it idles well, sounds good and for the very limited test drive I did (about 1km) ran fine. This project is still in the works so its not plated yet for daily driving and I didnt want to drive it too much while still building her so I'll have to get back to you in a few months with actual real world performance.
@@SchnebsGarage How are you doing up there? Have you put any more miles on the Jeep? How is it doing?
@@jarrettembry643 Jeeps pretty much in limbo. Drove it about 1k on and off, some light off roading. Everything working perfectly at this point until I find some money and motivation to get back at it.
Am I better off ordering special tools to rebuild my Yz 85 and what tools do I really need I have no tools so I’m gonna need sockets but do I need like impact drivers and flywheel holder
Impact drivers are not necessary for that job, YZ85's are fairly simple. Are you doing both top and bottom end? If its just the top end you can get by with just a standard socket set and a few screwdrivers. A torque wrench is about the only special tool you would use. The trickiest part there would be the piston ring install and you could simply use a small flat screwdriver to help compress it and your fingers. Other than that its just nuts and bolt no biggie. The bottom end is really where the 'special' tools come in. Flywheel Puller, Case Splitter, Clutch Holder etc are the 3 main things you'd want to make life simpler. A press of some sort is also handy for installing the bearings into the case sides...but you can bypass that with the freezer and oven trick if you dont mind waiting a few hours. Hope this helps !!
I did the top end but my buddy had coolant in the bottom and And cooked the bearings, I did wise co top end and I’m gonna do wiseco bottom end, but how did I get the bearings out I can buy the crank puller n installer case splitter and do I really need a clutch holder, also I have no tools so I’ll be costly for socket set and screw drivers, AND then them. Tools, BUT I can get someone to do it but it will be the same price as the tools I’m new to bikes I did the top end myself and I changed the reed valves my self idk if I can do the bottom and tho I wouldn’t wanna half it apart and yah know ALSO HOW LONG HOW MANY HOUR THEY TELL ME 6 hours 4- 6 hours at 100 a hour (I’m Canadian ) But wouldn’t this be a quick job for them with the tools and know how like 2-3 hours, thank you very much for the reply
@@randomreviews563the bottom end can be a bit of a chore even with the right tools. A lot of folks will start em and realize they've gotten in over their heads, then just sell the bike in pieces. I've started this way with three project bikes if you looked at some of my builds lol. My personal feeling is if you've never done a bottom end and don't have the tools, its probably best that you find someone who's done it before to at least give you some guidance. I've been doing this stuff for over 40 years so easy to me is not necessarily easy to everyone.
Thank you very much
what would be a ball park on how long it would take to rebuild the bottom end with new parts