The Truth About the "Banned Books" of the Bible: Evidence for the Bible pt14

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2016
  • Including quotes and summaries of the "lost gospels" and "banned books". Never again be caught off guard or confounded by references to the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter, the Gospel of Mary, or the Gospel of Judas.

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  • @Angelotube5000
    @Angelotube5000 4 года назад +320

    19:11 Gospel of Thomas
    25:43 Infancy Gospel of Thomas
    31:55 Gospel of Mary
    36:30 Gospel of Peter
    41:25 Protoevangelion of James
    48:00 Gospel of Judas
    50:08 Acts of John
    50:35 Acts of Paul

    • @cb90222
      @cb90222 3 года назад +8

      Jasher, the book of Susanna, Enoch, etc etc all book missi from the Bible bc of the Vatican doesn't want you to know the truth

    • @jhamilton1007
      @jhamilton1007 3 года назад +2

      @@cb90222 Maccabees as well

    • @timrodriguez16
      @timrodriguez16 3 года назад +7

      Acts of Paul sounds like a great Narnia book!

    • @jhamilton1007
      @jhamilton1007 3 года назад +3

      @@timrodriguez16 Or DUNE

    • @runnininthe80s84
      @runnininthe80s84 3 года назад +3

      @@cb90222 they are all easily available online.

  • @joeg9840
    @joeg9840 4 года назад +208

    As a newer believer, Mike has been an answer to my prayers! There are so many people with so many views and opinions but Mike Winger clearly studies hard and thoroughly, there is no doubt in my mind and more importantly my HEART that he speaks truth! God bless you Michael!

    • @metoo3705
      @metoo3705 3 года назад +1

      Agree 💯

    • @joseg.solano1891
      @joseg.solano1891 2 года назад

      Mind = heart

    • @Gen-ZChristian
      @Gen-ZChristian 2 года назад +1

      May you please share your testimony?

    • @beebarfthebard
      @beebarfthebard 2 года назад

      me too

    • @dp1381
      @dp1381 2 года назад +1

      I too am a new believer and I love Mike Winger. He clearly does thorough research on ever topic he presents, and presents the information simply.

  • @HeyTripleJ
    @HeyTripleJ Год назад +45

    It’s extremely painful when people you love don’t have discernment or fall victim easily to heresy, cults/cult thinking, and deception. :( it hurts to watch end it hurts even more to experience.😢

    • @nykka3
      @nykka3 Месяц назад

      💯

  • @alexandria1663
    @alexandria1663 3 года назад +56

    Man, I was talking to a Catholic about Mary’s perpetual virginity and he told me that exact explanation from the Protoevangelion. How I WISH I’d known the source back then! Thank you for this series a hundred times. It’s so so helpful.

    • @AmeeraG242
      @AmeeraG242 2 года назад +7

      That is so helpful to know ! I frequently witness to catholics and they throw alot at you these sources and knowledge is so helpful

  • @kevinsolveson5480
    @kevinsolveson5480 2 года назад +46

    "When you get a little more information, it really helps you out" - Mike Winger. Amen, Mike! Thank you!

  • @powerfulaura5166
    @powerfulaura5166 Год назад +55

    1:28 1 Clement
    4:05 The Didache
    10:56 The Shepherd of Hermas
    13:17 Polycarp's Epistle to the Philippians
    ☝ Pinned comment is useful, but here are timestamps for the wholesome, early Christian (non-heretical) reading.

    • @malenejensen2995
      @malenejensen2995 9 месяцев назад +2

      I really want to read the Didache now, even though I'm not a new Christian... But I have finally forsaken the hyper charismatic movement 😊

    • @powerfulaura5166
      @powerfulaura5166 8 месяцев назад

      _The Didache_ is a great read indeed.@@malenejensen2995

    • @janniagonzalez5459
      @janniagonzalez5459 2 месяца назад

      thanks so much, I couldn't get the names just by hearing

  • @marciemartin1685
    @marciemartin1685 4 года назад +101

    Thank you Sooooo Much!! I spent last night praying to God about these books, I came to my computer & asked again for him to help me understand...AND BOOM!! There you were!! PRAISE YOU GOD FOR ANSWERING PRAYERS!!

    • @KorenJoy
      @KorenJoy 3 года назад +6

      Praise YHWH 🙌🏾

    • @AmeeraG242
      @AmeeraG242 2 года назад

      Same thing happened to me !

    • @AveCaesar2112
      @AveCaesar2112 2 года назад

      Wow, you found the search bar!

    • @henrytims4745
      @henrytims4745 Год назад

      @@AveCaesar2112 do you not feel at all embarrassed over how whiny you sound?

    • @iKeto_gal
      @iKeto_gal 4 месяца назад

      @@AveCaesar2112 Don't think he searched, but that it showed up in his recommendations

  • @candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922
    @candiceknuth-winterfeldt2922 6 лет назад +147

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter, but I had a thought.... if someone wanted to get you a gift, a plaid shirt seems like a safe bet! Good job being faithful in your ministry. God bless.

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  6 лет назад +32

      Haha

    • @redxpro1
      @redxpro1 4 года назад +2

      Candice Knuth-Winterfeldt I wear shirts like that. It’s pretty nice! I’d wear that!!

    • @dpcrn
      @dpcrn 4 года назад +4

      Looks like a Western shirt. He wears it well.

    • @meomy29
      @meomy29 2 года назад +3

      How many plaid shirts do you suppose he's gotten in the mail since you posted this? ha ha ha

  • @christopherg.matton9610
    @christopherg.matton9610 3 года назад +81

    The Infancy Gospel of Thomas sounds like an early draft of The Omen

    • @nexteffects
      @nexteffects 3 года назад +4

      Jesus: Don't make me angry Mr. McGee. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

    • @KKKaTTT123
      @KKKaTTT123 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

    • @cnramsey
      @cnramsey 3 года назад +8

      I guess now we know why Joseph is missing from the Gospels. 🤣

    • @nosuchthing8
      @nosuchthing8 2 года назад +1

      Yup. The religion for breakfast yt stream has an entire show about it.

    • @blickysticky6012
      @blickysticky6012 9 месяцев назад

      What is the omen

  • @carolinatoledo5255
    @carolinatoledo5255 4 года назад +70

    I died with the "Infancy Gospel of Thomas" 😂

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 3 года назад

      Your brain died with the "talking snake and donkey and someone living inside a fishes belly" Gospel!

    • @music0326
      @music0326 3 года назад

      Your brain died when it killed God

    • @smallhors848
      @smallhors848 3 года назад +14

      @@cardcounter21 well that’s not a gospel…

    • @thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411
      @thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 3 года назад +8

      @@cardcounter21 The talking snake was either just Satan in a different form or Satan possessing a snake, and not an actual snake, the donkey could not talk on it's own and was only able to talk through the power of God, and Jonah was likely made to be able to live inside the giant fish/whale through the power of God.

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 3 года назад

      @@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411 _The talking snake was either just Satan in a different form or Satan possessing a snake, and not an actual snake_
      So why did God punish all snakes for what Satan did?

  • @MAP2023
    @MAP2023 4 года назад +23

    Please make a Second part with the Book of Enoch and the Deutorocanonical Old Testament books!!!

  • @CommonSense858
    @CommonSense858 Год назад +10

    Having come out of the independent baptist movement...Mike Winger has been an amazing breath of fresh air. Thanks Mike!

  • @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
    @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 3 года назад +87

    These books were not canonical for three reasons: One, with the heresies in some, and with the inconsistencies, unknown histories, and such within them. Two, with the inconsistencies and inaccuracies, and not going with the flow of the teachings of the Scriptures. Number three, because they were not inspired by God.. they were not God-breathed.. they were not written by the apostles of Christ. To be an apostle, you have had to have seen the Risen Christ, and personally be called by Him in to that special office. So, that is why none of these books are in the Bible.

    • @reviewtechUSSR1
      @reviewtechUSSR1 Год назад +1

      So in other words they don't make you feel as nice and fuzzy inside?

    • @user-cs7fg5eq9r
      @user-cs7fg5eq9r Год назад

      @@reviewtechUSSR1 In other words their useless for people like you and you don't like it.

    • @ifeanyichukwu3644
      @ifeanyichukwu3644 Год назад +8

      @@reviewtechUSSR1 No 🤦‍♂️

    • @reviewtechUSSR1
      @reviewtechUSSR1 Год назад

      @@ifeanyichukwu3644 Yes. Sorry I'm right and you're wrong.

    • @ifeanyichukwu3644
      @ifeanyichukwu3644 Год назад +11

      @@reviewtechUSSR1 Nope. You are wrong, extremely wrong

  • @willbyrob6582
    @willbyrob6582 3 года назад +30

    What if one day, they dig up an ancient text called “The Gospel of Pilate” 😂

    • @TheRangeroftheWastes
      @TheRangeroftheWastes 2 года назад

      There is one. Not joking about that haha

    • @TheRangeroftheWastes
      @TheRangeroftheWastes 2 года назад

      @TheGoodOlRebel Yes. Its all about how Pilate became a believer after the crucifixion, what he witnessed after the death and resurrection, and the letters he sent afterwards telling the world of christ.

    • @TheRangeroftheWastes
      @TheRangeroftheWastes 2 года назад

      @TheGoodOlRebel sorry haha. I thought you were the OP

    • @donatist59
      @donatist59 9 месяцев назад

      Pilate is a Saint in the Coptic church!

  • @ladycampion
    @ladycampion 3 года назад +29

    Did anyone else think of The Twilight Zone's "It's a Good Life" when he read from The Infancy Gospel of Thomas?

  • @jaspin555
    @jaspin555 5 лет назад +100

    Can you please cover the book of Enoch specifically?

    • @med4699
      @med4699 4 года назад +4

      Please do.

    • @XlllXlllXlllX
      @XlllXlllXlllX 4 года назад +4

      @@med4699 he's not going to ... because it goes against his secret "christian conversion agenda"

    • @XlllXlllXlllX
      @XlllXlllXlllX 4 года назад +4

      @Caleb Lewis ...I was raised Christian...but I will admit...I left Christianity because of the hypocrisy...and secrecy __ie : the "book of Enoch" + the "greed, racism & feminist narcissism" that they hide (not all)...but at some point...I simply had enough...no offense

    • @billhesford6098
      @billhesford6098 4 года назад +15

      @Caleb Lewis Psalm 32: 1-3 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity...:" The gospel is truly or actually very good news. God chooses to not impute (ascribe) sin to his elect. God chooses to cover our sin. Like He covered Adam with animal skins in the Garden of Eden.
      The early church did not accept Enoch. We have plenty of early writers before 200 AD speaking of the accepted books and Enoch was not considered scripture. It was read along with a lot of other books like we read other materials today. But Enoch was never considered scripture. That I know of. I don't think we can add it today with an honest look at church history. Throw away church history at our peril. Which book will be found interesting next? Or removed -because there will be more put forward. That is what history tells us.

    • @Rose-wx2ct
      @Rose-wx2ct 3 года назад +2

      Book of Enoch just prove the Bible,not disprove:)

  • @seanm.3481
    @seanm.3481 2 года назад +3

    They'll say "SEE THIS IS IN THE SCRIPTURES AND ITS STUPID" like yeah its garbage. That's why it wasn't added to the Bible.

  • @txwjkumxyooj2026
    @txwjkumxyooj2026 6 лет назад +33

    I LOVE CHRISTIANS AND PASTORS LIKE YOU!

  • @jgil1966
    @jgil1966 5 лет назад +14

    I love this video so much, it's so funny i always come back to it every other 8 months lol

  • @gavart4509
    @gavart4509 3 года назад +11

    I’m glad that “evil baby Jesus” at 38 mins got a laugh, that was hilarious

  • @ambermattheis4539
    @ambermattheis4539 Год назад +3

    Thank you so much for researching this content and sharing your findings in such an accessible way! I love listening to your videos!

  • @deborahjiggens7199
    @deborahjiggens7199 6 лет назад +6

    Awesome Brother ❤ and I laughed so hard! We all need a great laugh, even in these last days. In curious about all the other lost books, if any be creditable?

  • @twiceborn_by_grace
    @twiceborn_by_grace 6 лет назад +16

    The infancy gospel of Thomas makes me wonder if Anne Rice used it when she wrote Young Messiah.

    • @lonelyguyofficial8335
      @lonelyguyofficial8335 5 лет назад

      Maybe, but then only by principle, being, about him as a child. The rest she clearly gave the finger to. Lol.

    • @marylandgirl9246
      @marylandgirl9246 3 года назад +1

      I was thinking that too.

  • @karenhall4645
    @karenhall4645 3 года назад +30

    When you add myth to the Gospel you get comedy. Listening to the resurrection story from The Gospel of Peter, I'm sitting here laughing. I'm relieved the talking cross never made the cut.

    • @miss_pearl
      @miss_pearl 3 года назад +7

      The infancy gospel OF Thomas finished me with laughter. These gospels are pure comedy.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 3 года назад +2

      Yes, the Gospel of Thomas is without a doubt a pseudepigraphic work, but so are some of the writings in the Bible, such as the pseudo-pauline epistles. To use the word "forgery" to describe this kind of ancient literature is a loaded term because ancient scriptural authors did not see it the same way. Using the name of a famous legendary figure was simply a way to get attention to the writing and did not have the kind of unethical baggage that the term "forgery" has to modern ears. The Book of Enoch is also clearly pseudepigraphic... and yet JUDE, in his epistle, quotes from it directly in the context of it being authoritative. Jude says that "Enoch prophesied" those words in the Book of Enoch, and yet the Book of Enoch was written centuries after Enoch. So...the Bible itself sets a precedent for embracing pseudepigraphic "forgeries."

    • @canabiss8297
      @canabiss8297 2 года назад

      @@eugenesanders3094 false. flat out wrong.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 2 года назад

      @@canabiss8297 No, everything I said was truthful. Sorry if you're upset by facts.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 2 года назад +1

      @Pro Semite It is the NT epistle of Jude that quotes directly from the pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch, in the context of it being inspired. Jude clearly believed that the Book of Enoch was the inspired word of God & authoritative.

  • @Oct_sflb
    @Oct_sflb 3 года назад +6

    "Whoever drinks from My mouth-"
    *Pardon.*

  • @YeshuaSaves3
    @YeshuaSaves3 3 года назад +9

    Hey Mike! Love your content brother, I just had a question. Are these recordings from your Sunday service or do these talks happen on another day like some sort of Bible study night?

  • @gerilynn9002
    @gerilynn9002 5 лет назад +12

    As you went through the Gnostic rejected books and how ridiculous they are I couldn't stop thinking.... I would love to see someone do a mockumentary cartoon (laugh your butt off) depiction of these stories... a spoof that presents how hideous and far out there that these are and... hope that it would go viral. For all those who have not actually read the text but are more than willing to proclaim "lost gospels" and "banned books" as if Christianity/the church has deprived of secret wisdom... it would be great to see the foolishness of the believers of these revealed and that it would be lunacy to find any value in these writings.

  • @kvelez
    @kvelez 3 года назад +16

    Thanks, I've been studying the gnostics and how to refute them, and this helped a lot.
    Much love and blessing to you brother Winger.

  • @Papasquatch73
    @Papasquatch73 4 года назад +3

    Mike I just want you to know I have been using your material since last September. I am now on this lesson. I took off the summer. It is a blessing what you prepare that keeps blessing. I take 2 to 3 Bible class periods to cover one of yours. So eventually I will finish this series. I am in no hurry. I have the remainder of my life to share the Word with you. I pray for you often to stay strong in the face of adversity. California can be tough

  • @Mojojojo85757
    @Mojojojo85757 3 года назад +8

    When you mentioned the gospel of Thomas video I had to STOP ✋ and immediately go find it, and I’m so glad I did 😂 my favorite thing about it is the filmmakers choice to represent Jesus like a cheesy 80s double exposure portrait 🤣🤣🤣

    • @brandon.crotchett
      @brandon.crotchett 2 года назад +3

      Do you have a link to it? I can’t seem to find it lol

  • @linderize
    @linderize 7 лет назад +15

    thank you. thank you. THANK YOU. OH MY GOSH YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA ... NONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. finally, someone WHO KNOWS WHAT TIME IT IS. THANK YOU, JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @curiositychroniclesx
    @curiositychroniclesx 3 года назад +17

    Such a great video. I’ve been enjoying your channel! It’s like a course in Christian apology. Very thorough! I feel so smart after watching 😃

  • @murdaqapitol5044
    @murdaqapitol5044 4 года назад +2

    U did a great job man. Plus super funny!! Love it man keep doin ur thing!

  • @henrytooren9691
    @henrytooren9691 5 лет назад +28

    When I studied theology in the Netherlands Bart Ehrman's book was my textbook on the new testament. I Iearned a lot from it.
    Later in my third year I leaned about gnosis and gospels like the gospel of Thomas and the childhood gospels.I had to translate them.
    What I learned from Ehrman made very clear to me that those gospels were fake. Ehrman is a historian, the non christian kind.

    • @shredhed572
      @shredhed572 4 года назад +3

      A lot of people say many things. Ermans claim of being an historian isn't true.
      He says he is to give himself cred.

  • @Narrow-Pather
    @Narrow-Pather 5 лет назад +3

    I'm excited to begin listening and studying this. Thank you.

  • @TheChillBison
    @TheChillBison Год назад +4

    This one was definitely fun! All these "gospels" so clearly just take themselves down. Internally inconsistent, inconsistent with the four gospels, outright nonsensical in places. As you said, about what you would expect of fiction.

  • @jgil1966
    @jgil1966 5 лет назад +6

    this was so much fun i didn't want it to end!

  • @shantelcole96
    @shantelcole96 3 года назад +14

    Great study, thank you. I was hoping you would talk about the book of Enoch, it's been mentioned a lot lately.

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 3 года назад +4

      Jude quotes from Enoch directly in the context of it being authoritative. Peter alludes to it also. It is an indisputable fact that early Christians (even biblical authors) considered the Book of Enoch to be inspired. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church still includes The Book of Enoch in it's canon today.

    • @shantelcole96
      @shantelcole96 3 года назад +8

      @@eugenesanders3094 yes, I agree. I believe that because the book of Enoch is somewhat reliable, Mark didn't include it in this study but I'd like to know why wasn't it included.

    • @booboochild4215
      @booboochild4215 8 месяцев назад +1

      from what i have researched in the past it wasn't added because they couldn't 100% guarantee it all written by enoch and they thought people may have added on to it

  • @moorzy8385
    @moorzy8385 Год назад +3

    I’m so glad you said Shepard of Hermas was “weird”. I said the same and was worried I was just missing something lol

  • @waitingandwatching9328
    @waitingandwatching9328 5 лет назад +14

    Just watched this in Feb 2019 and was grateful for the info. It was hilarious...when we learn this stuff yes you have to laugh when you here the lies. Keep up the good work Mike.

  • @jishaphilip6353
    @jishaphilip6353 3 года назад +2

    May God bless you abundantly Mike. Thanks for your videos

  • @whipdadash6135
    @whipdadash6135 7 лет назад +5

    Great Video i been searching the reason of why these books were left out for some time and this helped alot thank you and God Bless

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  7 лет назад +5

      +WhipdaDash thank you!

    • @whipdadash6135
      @whipdadash6135 7 лет назад +2

      As old as i am (30) i been searching for months why Book of Enoch and the others were completely rooted out. Knowing that i am a very Big Revelation of John fan and seeing this controversy surround one quote left me down and confused. Digging and delving deep in the modern history of man..one Quote kept me thinking. "any thing that is added or taken out is, those people will not inherit the Kingdom of God." Now giving the idea i didn't go Verbatim but i could not wrap around my head because 21st Century Christians seem to lose any logic beyond what they see.I Just have to give credit to the world we live in for such ignorance and people like you is what i like to see who aren't afraid to challenge the status quo of this world. Truly i thank you for this it answers alot and gives me more Curious Questions.

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  7 лет назад +3

      +WhipdaDash I'm glad I could help in some way.

  • @jamesthelesser6975
    @jamesthelesser6975 5 лет назад +48

    I was hoping he would have touched on the book of Jasher and the book of Enoch

    • @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
      @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 3 года назад

      James The Lesser doesn’t matter, for they both still are apocryphal.

    • @soupcoup3912
      @soupcoup3912 3 года назад +1

      @@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 I would like to know why

    • @explodingrubberducky797
      @explodingrubberducky797 3 года назад +12

      @@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 Yet Jude Quotes Enoch. Peter alludes to enoch especially in the areas where he talks about the Angels who rebelled being bound in chains of darkness.

    • @adalynroseprescott8927
      @adalynroseprescott8927 3 года назад +1

      I have heard a lot of well respected gospel loving Christians use the book of Enoch a lot so maybe that’s why. Who knows?

    • @explodingrubberducky797
      @explodingrubberducky797 3 года назад +13

      @@adalynroseprescott8927 I've read the entire book of Enoch, and honestly, I don't see why a number of people fear it so much. For a book that wasn't penned by Christians, it has the clearest portrayal/prophecy of Christ that any discerning Christian would notice. It has one of the clearest arguments against abortions and even prophesies about abortion in the end times etc.

  • @mommy2lou
    @mommy2lou 5 лет назад +15

    This had me laughing more than an intentional comedy! Any one with a mediocre knowledge of the gospel will recognize these books as agendized forgeries. If not, well, I'd have to question that person's intelligence.
    Thank you Mik Winger. I love your channel. God bless.

    • @ashleyvalkoss2130
      @ashleyvalkoss2130 5 лет назад +3

      Adria on the vine did that ego come from Jesus? Humble yourself and pray, seek truth.

    • @redxpro1
      @redxpro1 4 года назад +1

      Adria: Satans job it to deceive, confuse and divide. After reading most of these “rejected” books and closely comparing them to the KJV Bible. It’s pretty clear that SOME of these are heresy and others (that were part of the original texts before the 1611 version King James changes) were widely accepted as inspired. So if the devil can convince people that they ALL are heresy, he’s done his job confusing and dividing. When you read these books you have to pray first and ask God to open your eyes with deep discernment and then you’ll KNOW if they are from God or not!

  • @brotherandrew6227
    @brotherandrew6227 5 лет назад

    Great job Mr. Winger. This earns Brother Andrew's seal of approval.

  • @athb4hu
    @athb4hu 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you for this, it was fascinating.

  • @DareusTyn
    @DareusTyn 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for your hard work doing thorough research.

  • @karenhall4645
    @karenhall4645 4 года назад +11

    Thank you, finally somebody on God's side addresses this! I have watched the documentaries on the banned books and all the "scholars" who defend them and it's cringe inducing.

  • @titusstahl1995
    @titusstahl1995 6 месяцев назад

    Hi, where can I find the song that plays at the end of this video? Thank you for your tireless work and dedication to providing solid biblical content!

  • @michaelarango7782
    @michaelarango7782 4 года назад +12

    Surprised that the most requested book on here wasn’t touched

    • @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786
      @fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 3 года назад

      Michael Arango So? That too is apocryphal.

    • @STeroidsnicca
      @STeroidsnicca 3 года назад

      FBN Flavius Broadcasting Network Which book didn’t he cover?

    • @MunchJinkies
      @MunchJinkies 3 года назад

      Maccabees?

    • @2002THEBOY
      @2002THEBOY 3 года назад +2

      @@MunchJinkies macabees are a historical book but are not inspired

  • @TheBlubunni
    @TheBlubunni 5 лет назад +6

    😂😂😂 the readings from the weird books.... too funny! 😂😂😂 dead!!!

    • @cardcounter21
      @cardcounter21 3 года назад

      I laugh every time I read about talking donkeys and snakes!

  • @serges9351
    @serges9351 6 лет назад +24

    Can you please continue this video and cover a few more books such as...
    "The Book Of Jasher"
    and
    "The Book Of Enoch" ?

    • @getter_done
      @getter_done 5 лет назад +2

      What about....The book of. Nicodemus?

    • @boonrobiadek
      @boonrobiadek 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah those are popular now days

    • @justchilling704
      @justchilling704 5 лет назад +6

      To my knowledge they are both Jewish literature that Jesus likely read they aren’t inspired so thus not apart of scripture but, they are still interesting History/historical books.

  • @MalachiCo0
    @MalachiCo0 2 года назад +2

    The sayings in Gospel of Thomas sounds like that one stoner that gets high and starts thinking about philosophy and it doesn't make a lick of sense

  • @joshua_dlima
    @joshua_dlima 4 года назад

    Hey which song is that you played in the end

  • @thefonz1589
    @thefonz1589 4 года назад +3

    Q...ever heard of Neville Goddard? I would love to hear your opinion on his teachings...thanks!

  • @Meg_219
    @Meg_219 Год назад +3

    So helpful, as always Pastor Mike

  • @withlove6973
    @withlove6973 4 года назад +10

    Thank you for this. I had heard some of these beliefs and discounted them as nonsense, little did I know just how extraordinarily ridiculous these were...
    I'm deeply comforted that Paul didn't baptize the lion without a profession of faith....whew!

  • @somebodyelseathome
    @somebodyelseathome 7 лет назад +10

    +Mike Wenger
    What about the banned book people like to bring up that involves Lilith? Did anyone of your research bring up anything about that?

    • @stacy2point0
      @stacy2point0 6 лет назад +2

      Who is Lilith? Is there any warrant for calling Lilith Adam’s first wife, or is this just the baseless chatter of woodland creatures? Are there appearances of Lilith in the Bible?
      Dan Ben-Amos, Professor of Folklore and Asian and Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, explores the figure of Lilith in the Bible and mythology in his article “From Eden to Ednah-Lilith in the Garden”
      in the May/June 2016 issue of Biblical Archeology Review.
      - - His analysis shows that Lilith is an intriguing figure who has taken on many shapes over the millennia.
      Lilith is first mentioned in ancient Babylonian texts as a class of winged female demons that attacks pregnant women and infants. From Babylonia, the legend of “the lilith” spread to ancient Anatolia, Syria, Israel, Egypt and
      Greece. In this guise-as a wilderness demoness-she appears in Isaiah 34:14 among a list of nocturnal creatures who will haunt the destroyed Kingdom of Edom. This is her only mention in the Bible, but her legend continued to grow in ancient Judaism.
      During the Middle Ages, Jewish sources began to claim her as Adam’s first-and terrifying-wife. How did Lilith evolve from being a wilderness demon to Adam’s first wife?
      Interestingly enough, this story begins at the beginning, in Genesis 1.
      The creation of humans is described in Genesis 1 and in Genesis 2.
      The first account is fairly straightforward: “So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them” (Genesis 1:27). The second account describes how God formed man out of the dust of the ground and then creates woman from the man: “Then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being. … So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. And the rib that the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man” (Genesis 2:7, 21-22).
      In the post-Biblical period, some ancient Jewish scholars took the stance that Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:21-22 must describe two separate events, since it appears that woman is created differently in these accounts.
      In her Bible Review article “Lilith” in the October 2001 issue, Professor Janet Howe Gaines explains this reasoning: “Considering every word of the Bible to be accurate and sacred, commentators needed a story to explain what seemed to them to be a difference in the creation narratives of Genesis 1 and 2. God supposedly creates woman twice-once with man, once from man’s rib-so there must have been two women. The Bible names the second woman Eve; Lilith was identified as the first in order to complete the story.” Accordingly, Genesis 1:27 describes the creation of Adam and an unnamed woman (Lilith); Genesis 2:7 gives more details of Adam’s creation; and Genesis 2:21-22 describes the creation of Eve from Adam.
      Lilith’s creation is recounted in The Tales of Ben Sira, an apocryphal work from the tenth century C.E. Dan Ben-Amos explains that although this is the first extant text that records the legend of Lilith, her story probably existed earlier:
      [Lilith’s] story seems to hover at the edges of literacy with sporadic references.
      … [I]n the post-Biblical period, the sages identify the lilith several times, not by name, but as “the First Eve,” indicating that her full story was well known in oral tradition, yet barred from the canonized Biblical text. Finally, in the tenth century C.E. in Babylon, an anonymous writer, who was not bound by normative traditional principles and who included in his book some other sexually explicit tales, spelled out the Lilith's adventures in paradise.
      The Tales of Ben Sira relates that God created Lilith from the earth, just as he had created Adam. They immediately began fighting because neither would submit to the other. Recognizing that Adam would not listen to her, Lilith “pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air” (The Tales of Ben Sira). The angels Snvi, Snsvi and Smnglof were sent to pursue Lilith, but when
      they reached her, she refused to return with them to the Garden of Eden. “‘Leave me!’ she said. ‘I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days’” (The Tales of Ben Sira).
      As a compromise, she promised that whenever she saw the angels’ names or forms on amulets, she would leave the child alone. She also agreed that 100 of her children-demons would die every day.
      The Lilith legend continued to grow and change over the following centuries, which is reflected in various artistic depictions of her. While some portrayed Lilith as a beautiful woman, others showed her in a more sinister light.

    • @daric_
      @daric_ 6 лет назад +9

      It's not a banned book. That's from the Jewish Talmud, the oral traditions of the Jews that were passed down and written much later. This was the stuff Jesus talked about when he condemned the traditions of their fathers. Not even worth worrying about.

    • @lonelyguyofficial8335
      @lonelyguyofficial8335 5 лет назад +1

      @@stacy2point0 Nice one.

    • @stacy2point0
      @stacy2point0 5 лет назад +1

      @Daric , Yes you are correct... but I was just answering a question that was asked about Lilith.

    • @redxpro1
      @redxpro1 4 года назад +1

      Read The 2nd book of Adam and Eve chapter 3:9: "But I rejoiced over the birth of thy son Seth; yet after a little while I sorrowed greatly over Eve, because she is my sister. For when God sent a deep sleep over thee, and drew her out of thy side, He brought me out also with her. But He raised her by placing her with thee, while He lowered me.” This is Satan deceiving Adam to believe that a SECOND woman was taken from him as Eve was. Could these stories come from such a source since it is all deception it would make sense as it was a made up story of the devil meant to confuse!!

  • @jeremymckeithan7142
    @jeremymckeithan7142 3 года назад

    Awesome video brother, loved the tbn joke and relating the secret to narcissism!

  • @77hephzibah
    @77hephzibah 5 лет назад +3

    I LOLed when Mike said TBN 🤣🤣🤣

  • @aprilstark8887
    @aprilstark8887 5 лет назад +3

    Great teaching, thanks!

  • @apostolicashley7444
    @apostolicashley7444 6 лет назад +3

    Hi there Mike, I noticed while studying the Didache in Chapter 9 it references the Last Super or Comunion and says to only share this with the saints that have been baptized in the name of Jesus, the literal word here is the Greek name for Jesus. I have read some historical commentaries, whom lean toward the opinion that this "Trinitarian Formula" was actually an addition to further inspire the doctorine of the Catholic church, hence the head sprinkling, which I notice you paraphrased as "whatever they had available".

    • @canabiss8297
      @canabiss8297 2 года назад +1

      you just read that into it completely

  • @penguinman9837
    @penguinman9837 4 года назад

    This was great! Thank you! God Bless!

  • @joebidensdiaper8526
    @joebidensdiaper8526 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic information, thank you...

  • @PastorwithoutaPulpit
    @PastorwithoutaPulpit Год назад +1

    I just want unfettered access to the Vad's Libraries, basements and hidden storage vaults.
    Can you imagine the knowledge that's been locked away by supposed "Holy Men" that have decided for themselves that it is not for our "untrained" eyes/minds for literal centuries/millennia?
    Yes, my Bibles are enough for me but one can dream can't they and wish to know our Lord even more.
    I mean how amazing would it be to find works from the Library of Alexandria that only exist in those secure from the "wrong eyes" libraries/vaults/basements...
    God Bless...

  • @gabrielvondohlen4755
    @gabrielvondohlen4755 3 года назад

    What was the 2nd book mentioned called

  • @yasminpanasjuk682
    @yasminpanasjuk682 2 года назад +2

    Today we would call those things fanfictions.

  • @craftymining8587
    @craftymining8587 5 лет назад +3

    The most important belief is accepting Jesus and the most important knowledge is knowing what is of God and what is of the Devil.

  • @liliankuhn4671
    @liliankuhn4671 2 года назад +3

    Wow! The Gospel of Thomas contains words & phrases that don't even sound like Yeshua's teachings. That's pretty dangerous. Also, I remember a youtube video a man made who converted from Muslim to Catholicism & he mentioned a clay bird & how Yeshua breathed life into it. That is not in the bible & that never happened. God bless you for taking the time to speak about these untruths about our Messiah. Amen!

  • @meomy29
    @meomy29 2 года назад

    How do you spell the third book you mentioned @ 13:18?

    • @friedrichrubinstein2346
      @friedrichrubinstein2346 2 года назад

      The letter of "Polycarp the Philippy", better known as the letter of "Polycarp to the Philippians".

  • @ChrisHolman
    @ChrisHolman 3 года назад

    Have you made a video on the Deuterocononical books?

  • @KaloStrathmore
    @KaloStrathmore Год назад

    Hey Mike what can U tell me about the 'sealed book' I know people who say it's God's new words koz Jesus has come back as a man (again) and given these words. Is this true?

  • @jonorcutt3304
    @jonorcutt3304 Год назад

    Excellent. Thank you Mike from 6 years ago.

  • @darrenparker284
    @darrenparker284 3 года назад +2

    Hey mike you never addressed some of the most famous OT apocrypha like the book of Enoch. Could you address that at some point?

    • @eugenesanders3094
      @eugenesanders3094 3 года назад

      Jude quotes from Enoch directly in the context of it being authoritative. Peter alludes to it also. It is an indisputable fact that early Christians (even biblical authors) considered the Book of Enoch to be inspired. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church still includes The Book of Enoch in it's canon today.

  • @karliejennaa
    @karliejennaa 2 года назад

    Where are all the other parts to this series of videos?

  • @philabetshwanongrum6321
    @philabetshwanongrum6321 4 года назад +2

    I lost it at Infancy Gospel of Thomas😂😂😂🤣🤣

    • @miss_pearl
      @miss_pearl 3 года назад

      I also couldn't help it. Very funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @fritzco55
    @fritzco55 3 года назад

    These works were obviously translated, do we know if the originals, or at least copies in original language are still kept?

  • @ogloc6308
    @ogloc6308 2 года назад +1

    these are actually hilarious lol thanks pastor mike

  • @rachelwilkinson7154
    @rachelwilkinson7154 6 лет назад +43

    What about the book of Enoch?

    • @TheChurchIsLikenUntoTheMoon
      @TheChurchIsLikenUntoTheMoon 6 лет назад +5

      Rachel Wilkinson pagan

    • @avitheproject
      @avitheproject 6 лет назад +6

      Tice Rippy im pretty sure is a jewish text

    • @Delgen1951
      @Delgen1951 6 лет назад +3

      then the question is : Is it in the Jewish bible? If not then we can say it probably is "fanFIction" if you will, ie not real scripture, Also remember the curse that GOD gave on removing or adding to the scriptures.

    • @Riddimsofcreation
      @Riddimsofcreation 5 лет назад +7

      The original text is in Ethiopia just as the ark of the covenant

    • @gerrardthemagnificent5960
      @gerrardthemagnificent5960 5 лет назад +1

      @@Riddimsofcreation The Ark of the Covenant is in heaven and the book of Enoch was not made in Ethiopia, the only surviving text of it in whole was in Ethiopia, who have 80 something books in their canon

  • @josephmclaughlin6191
    @josephmclaughlin6191 2 года назад

    Why do people think that I'm skeptical enough to question the gospels, but dumb enough not to question their information.

  • @MuMu-fu7qe
    @MuMu-fu7qe 3 года назад +5

    I downloaded an app that has a bunch of lost books. I found the Psalms of Solomon and the First Book of Adam & Eve really interesting. I think of it as Bible fan fiction. I hope it hasn't clouded my understanding of the scriptures though! Eeek lol

    • @FaithfulComforter
      @FaithfulComforter Год назад

      Don’t forget that canon Biblical scripture is always quoting each other and exalting the deity of Christ and our Heavenly Father’s love and creation.

  • @rweseloh1
    @rweseloh1 2 месяца назад

    Where can I find the video teaching before this one?

    • @black-cross
      @black-cross Месяц назад +1

      There's a playlist. Evidence for the bible

  • @TikvahDave
    @TikvahDave Год назад

    How do I find the other “parts” of this video

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  Год назад +2

      Here you go. ruclips.net/p/PLZ3iRMLYFlHuhA0RPKZFHVcjIMN_-F596

    • @relajado-fx5rf
      @relajado-fx5rf Год назад

      @@MikeWinger Pastor Mike, thank you for all you do

  • @Freidis
    @Freidis Год назад +1

    19:40 Oh my goodness I found it. The video is called “Gospel of Thomas Movie, Gentle” and can confirm, he is both wide-eyed and spooky looking.

  • @markmooney5662
    @markmooney5662 3 года назад

    So glad to find this video....as these false doctrines are appearing yet again in documentary form in 2021.....IE the marriage of Jesus and Mary of Magdalene.....GOD bless and keep the Christian family and please protect the Word from these false doctrines.
    Grace and peace
    Gilly wife of Mark

  • @jaonatohinirina565
    @jaonatohinirina565 2 года назад +2

    The gospel of mary sounds like a video game pitch 😂😂

  • @sketchstuffs
    @sketchstuffs 2 года назад +3

    Ok so I have a theory as to the origin of the infancy Thomas book. After hearing all of this, all I could think of is some guys got together and wrote some form of comic book style entertainment along the lines of what Brightburn is to Superman. So, like a “what if” type situation. It was probably even read as such (entertainment) in that day, and then throughout the years it slowly lost it’s original ridiculousness as a crazy what if story and morphed into an actual gospel.

  • @jgil1966
    @jgil1966 5 лет назад

    Please make a Part 2

  • @jimmyneighbors4943
    @jimmyneighbors4943 5 лет назад +9

    should I wonder about Joel. it quotes from Enoch.

  • @taoyang_
    @taoyang_ 2 года назад

    This is an amazing video👏🏾

  • @lanceforeman3675
    @lanceforeman3675 4 года назад

    Nice work brother🙏👊

  • @johnsmith6544
    @johnsmith6544 4 года назад +2

    What’s your thoughts about the book of Enoch??

  • @xNEVETS02x
    @xNEVETS02x 3 года назад +1

    Im curious on your thoughts about the book of Enoch

  • @benrex7775
    @benrex7775 5 лет назад +10

    Finally know where the age of Mary and the age of Joseph come from. Now I can rest easy and dismiss it completely.

  • @GruntStyleChris
    @GruntStyleChris 5 лет назад +2

    Have you done anything on the Book of Enoch?

  • @JR-ug1oy
    @JR-ug1oy 2 года назад +2

    i was actual getting worried way that they were real but thanks this has been an answer to my prayers ish since I got divided on this

  • @DanielLynds
    @DanielLynds 2 года назад

    so interesting. thanks!

  • @garysanders6812
    @garysanders6812 5 лет назад

    Mike...I think the videos are spot on and informative...but one question sticks out
    Everything in the bible links to other parts & all have relevant messages that line up with other events...passive, the feast of unleaven bread etc The crucifixion & resurrection so...when it says, no one knows the hour or the day of his return...this is an exact link to the full moon in September where it’s said - no one knows the hour or day ‘the moon will appear’
    The feast of Trumpets
    Surely we can’t ignore such a clue when the rest of the bible works very similar with prophecy
    Thoughts please..:)

  • @ept3228
    @ept3228 5 лет назад +3

    As far as I can tell in the gospel of Thomas Jesus refers to good as “male” and bad as “female”

    • @redxpro1
      @redxpro1 4 года назад +7

      TIGP P: The gospel of Thomas is HERESY! Read This: Verse 14) Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will give rise to sin for yourselves; and if you pray, you will be condemned; and if you give alms, you will do harm to your spirits.” Yea spirits of demons! Just this one verse reveals this teaching is the exact OPPOSITE of what Jesus taught.

  • @ericsonofjohn9384
    @ericsonofjohn9384 2 года назад +2

    Only on the gospel of Thomas, but it’s interesting that he chose “sayings” rather than actually telling a cohesive narrative.
    You have to plan a cohesive narrative, you have to understand history, the notable people, and get the acts all in order. But with “sayings”, you can pretty much come up with whatever you like if you think you can convince people it’s godly.
    Notice that Muhammed also did this. The quran is a book of sayings.