I Don't Understand Dave Rat - Rat Responds to Reddit Episode 1

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • After several people forwarded links to a subreddit with hundreds of posts ranging from informed and curious to insults and and confusion, I decided to dive in and use this opportunity to share my perspectives.
    In episode one I respond to " I Don't Understand Dave Rat" and describe the issues with sending the same signal to multiple speakers covering the same space as well as offer solutions to help mitigate comb filtering in stereo systems
    In future episodes I will wrap my arms around a wide variety of posts as well as do a demonstration showing how to use dual mic'ing to achieve some decorrelation of a single source.
    If you like this and other videos I do, please join this channel to get access to more videos, early access to videos as well as to be able to join my weekly zoom chats:
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    00:00 Intro
    00:31 I Don't Understand Dave Rat
    01:38 The same sound everywhere?
    02:21 Natural vs Reproduced
    04:00 Dual mono creates issues
    05:29 Decorrelation to reduce issues
    07:23 Reducing Comb Filtering
    09:28 Haas panning
    10:00 Methods to decorrelate signals
    11:39 Credible humans and testing
    13:11 Perspectives
    13:58 Summary outro

Комментарии • 912

  • @John_Kealiinohomoku
    @John_Kealiinohomoku Год назад +30

    As a person that's just starting out in live sound / FOH engineering, I'm so glad Dave Rat exists and is posting him gems of explanation and process. Sooo damn good Dave!

  • @sTVG2
    @sTVG2 2 года назад +187

    I think you are giving sound theory and philosophy that has a much greater impact to the community than many people realize. Like a great teacher you are helping people UNDERSTAND sound and audio, but sadly some can’t see the big picture.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +15

      👍👍👍 🎤

    • @cartergreeves9302
      @cartergreeves9302 2 года назад +4

      Don’t want to ruin the perfect number of thumbs up, so I’ll just say that I agree!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +6

      Ruin away!

    • @notforuse3001
      @notforuse3001 2 года назад +1

      I’ve been a sound engineer for 18 years and watching your methodology has helped me step passed what I thought was a mastery level, truth is no one knows it all and the only thing that holds people from reaching a higher level is their own inability to listen to advice! Your doing great things for the community Dave! Much love

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      Excellent and keep learning and testing new ideas!

  • @thatspsychotic
    @thatspsychotic Год назад +5

    "The people who know the least, have the most to say, and are the most upset about it" is timeless wisdom right there 12:13

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад +1

      Fun! And when people truly understand there's no need to smokescreen with emotions
      Great to meet ya!

  • @samdelfavero
    @samdelfavero 2 года назад +9

    The other day, I was talking to my boss (owns the sound/stage company I was recently hired by) about the differences between the m and x32 mixers, and halfway through the conversation, he said "I bet you watched the same Dave Rat video I saw the other night". This guy is in his 60s and I'm 22. That really put it into perspective to me. Other people have commented how impactful your videos are to this community. You're never better off not knowing something.
    You are such a great teacher, and the concepts you explain can be appreciated and applied at every level, from my fellow ameture engineers doing bar gigs to the touring pros. THANK YOU!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +2

      Sooo cool and thank you! This makes me happy!

    • @freelance_commie
      @freelance_commie 2 года назад +1

      Same thing happened to me! At my house gig yesterday an engineer came through and we got on the subject of getting sucked in visually to screens when mixing and we both were quick to reference a Dave video talking about having the console off to the side and forcing ourselves to not use our eyes. ✌🏻

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      Oh my, good stuff! And thank you

  • @pauldykes8267
    @pauldykes8267 2 года назад +86

    Dave, what a privilege to have someone of your vast experience and practical knowledge be willing to share what you've learnt with others. I love learning about how to improve my amateur mixing. It makes me want to get the gear out and test straight away. So much more to learn! Thank you!!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +2

      👍🤙👍

    • @NotMyName78
      @NotMyName78 2 года назад +5

      He is a king. I've just recently discovered this channel and I'm so thankful I did. He reinforces the basics while delving into some very technical and complex ideas. He's fascinating to listen to.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +2

      Appreciated!!

  • @FrancoContreras
    @FrancoContreras 2 года назад +40

    The fact that you dedicate your time and effort to share all your years of research and knowledge is simply invaluable. people who criticize only do so from a position that lacks empirical evidence and is only based on envy

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +10

      Thank you Franco. And yes, the attacks are unfounded but it offers an opportunity to have some fun and hopefully steer some away from the flawed angles

  • @RickBaconsAdventures
    @RickBaconsAdventures Год назад +2

    I can't believe nobody in the comments is talking about the Grateful Dead's wall of sound, they had separate amps and PAs for each instrument/person so that you got more of a raw sound of each person's sound mixing in the venue rather than the unwanted problems Dave mentioned that I'm sure lots of venues didn't understand yet back then. This was a great video. Thanks Dave

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад +1

      Awesome and will cover a bit more in upcoming vids.

  • @11d12man
    @11d12man 2 года назад +28

    I will never forget how great the sound was when I saw you mix the RHCP in the Twin Cities a few years ago. I think that was your last show with them as well. Had the cool overhead dynamic lighting grid.
    I think some of those commenters probably went through an audio training program/college and have that feeling that their education is complete and that they have all the answers from the singular way they were instructed. As you exemplify though, it’s important to always be learning, experimenting, and being open to new concepts. I’m always surprised by the rigidity of some engineers in an industry that is so full of creativity. Some of the most fun gigs I’ve worked have been in bars with really strange system setups. It’s always fun making it work in the room, with the band, and for the people enjoying the show.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +16

      We are sound! Let's have fun with this wonderful invisible energy!

    • @themadmallard
      @themadmallard Год назад +2

      @@DaveRat that belongs on a shirt

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад

      👍🤙🔧🔧

  • @johnqpublic2013
    @johnqpublic2013 2 года назад +10

    Dave is the real deal!!!!! I've played 40 years. This is Phd level. I call him Dr. Rat.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      😯🔧🔧🔧

  • @caracine
    @caracine 2 года назад +52

    I have always thought your ideas of other ways to mix and use live sound systems are clever and creative. If anything, I thank you very much for taking the time to share your thoughts with all us. I've learned so much from the videos you've posted- thank you. I'm always open to hear & consider other sound ideas and learn something from most everybody but especially from those who have your amazing experience. Thanks for sharing!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +8

      Thank you Christopher, appreciation of my efforts makes this worthwhile! And thank you for being a member, we have troll free realm!

  • @sancti-paprichio
    @sancti-paprichio 2 года назад +4

    I was touring for 5 years as a FOH engineer (around 1000-3000 ppl festivals), and I learned a lot from top engineers, but that IS ANOTHER DIMENSION, in 15 minutes I was so many times blown away, that knowledge is a true gold mine, I've can't even believe it's on youtube, thank you for all of my heart! LOVE YOU

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      So cool and thank you!! 🤙👍🤙

  • @richardglobisch64
    @richardglobisch64 2 года назад +2

    "Usually the people that know the least, have the most to say and are the most upset about it." Well, ain't that the truth!
    Great video!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍👍👍

  • @theacethree7943
    @theacethree7943 2 года назад +26

    Hi! im actually the OP of that post! I appreciate the response. I don't fully understand the physics of sound as well as you do. Personally with the small events that i do, i never really had issues with phasing. Assuming what your saying is correct it does make sense that changing the volume, or using a separate mic would help with phasing. I would love to talk sometime if you are willing to help me understand and learn more exactly why it helps as i still have a few questions.
    Thank you!

    • @conorm2524
      @conorm2524 2 года назад +11

      Try running an oscillator through the PA in your venue. Try an 80hz tone. Walk around and listen to where the nulls, peaks and maybe standing-waves of the frequency happen in the room. If you run pink noise through the PA and walk around you will hear comb-filtering happening at higher frequencies.

    • @theacethree7943
      @theacethree7943 2 года назад +2

      @@conorm2524 I’ll give it a try next time I can.

    • @peniku8
      @peniku8 2 года назад +2

      Stage bleed and reflections from venue walls can reduce the perceived impact of comb filtering. If you're on an outside gig, have a mono source with a lot of spectral content (like a distorted guitar, single mic, panned center) play while you walk from side to side, that will showcase the effects pretty well.
      The 80hz tone analysis won't show the same effect if the subs are set up in a line in front of the stage btw, plus room acoustics in smaller venues will have a big impact on bass distribution as well (and totally mess it up!).

    • @acousticbutler
      @acousticbutler 2 года назад +2

      Keep in mind that what we just got is a physics lesson. And it scales to any size venue. It's the medium of our art. Just like a painter needs to know how their paints mix and attach to a canvas, the more control they have over what they want to paint.
      The more we understand about the medium we use In our art the better we can art.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +9

      Hey hey TheAceThree!
      Welcome. As far as questions, ask away and will respond as best I can. Especially if the questions are subjects I have not already covered in videos and articles.
      I prefer to discuss publically rather than call to ensure information is publically available.

  • @joelkulesha8284
    @joelkulesha8284 2 года назад +1

    Oh this is fun! I'd like to see one of these videos every so often! Thank you for always sharing knowledge without gatekeeping!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍👍👍

  • @ZadieBear
    @ZadieBear Год назад

    When I was learning back in the early naughties, I absorbed all I could, but there was a point that I plateaued and became frustrated....frustrated enough that I stopped mixing. I love watching your videos! Thanks for teaching what I wish my mentor could have taught

  • @bestkoreanjesus
    @bestkoreanjesus 2 года назад +8

    I'm speechless at how much I learned. Thank you! I'm really looking forward to these.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🎤🎤🎤

  • @sotirisalevizos6812
    @sotirisalevizos6812 14 дней назад

    You are amazing for sharing all this knowledge with us, and for the fact that you explain all these things in such an understandable way. Thanks a lot!

  • @benchdawn
    @benchdawn 5 месяцев назад

    You are true sound and a person I wish I was friends with and could talk with about audio all day. Thankfully you share discussions that I can access at my leisure. Thanks for your amazing spirit. Love the content.

  • @jeffdeprey6279
    @jeffdeprey6279 2 года назад +6

    I love your passion for audio Dave, can not thank you enough for sharing!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      Thank you Jeff

  • @rogersoucy3
    @rogersoucy3 Год назад

    This was the first video of yours I watched through and loved how you approached and explained everything. I felt like we just hung out for a cup of coffee and geeked out over sound reproduction. I appreciate your effort and passion for this stuff and thank you for your generosity.
    Backstory : I'm not in the pro audio biz but do have a consumer audio background, so I completely understood all that you talked about. I was looking for videos on balanced armatures this AM and discovered you in your teardown of some IEMs. While I bailed on that video, I went and checked out your channel and watched this one. Rock on!

  • @gunjabeans
    @gunjabeans 2 года назад

    You've expounded greatly on a concept that I discovered in the studio by putting two 57's on the same cab and panned hard left and right. Thank you. This information has come at a very important time for me. Hope to hear one of your shows soon. Cheers

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Robby. Though I did move on from mixing shows to other adventures

  • @Lcuzz123
    @Lcuzz123 2 года назад +13

    Some of the best advice I have ever gotten was to always ask questions of yourself when someone is presenting something to you. I have done that many times watching your videos David really really appreciate your perspective and have implemented a lot of what you have said in the past in regards to these kinds of concepts. I’m better engineer because of the work that you put into things. I am very grateful for you.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +4

      Hell yeah!

  • @johncostigan6160
    @johncostigan6160 2 года назад

    Fascinating! Haas effect in live sound and decorrelation in general. 40 years in live sound & these are new concepts for me. Thank-you Dave!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Awesome and very cool John!

  • @matheusmoraesm
    @matheusmoraesm 2 года назад +1

    Yours contributions are huge to the sound community, thanks for all

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍🤙👍

  • @justingarnell8355
    @justingarnell8355 9 месяцев назад

    Dave you’re a f***king genius! I’m so glad to be living in this era & learn from your experiences & sharing. Simply mind blowing!

  • @snarlyharley6032
    @snarlyharley6032 2 года назад +2

    Thanks Dave for responding in a really calm and intelligent way. I always appreciate hearing the reasoning behind your decisions regarding mixing and gear choices. I've learned so much from you over the years. Tremendously grateful for all that you have openly shared.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Awesome and thank you Snarly

  • @greenpea9412
    @greenpea9412 Год назад +2

    Brilliant. When people ask me where I first learned to run sound I always say Dave Rat taught me. I'm serious too. I bought a 24 channel Yamaha analog board 9 years ago and found Dave here on RUclips showing gain structure and how the signal path was structured. I started plugging things in and practicing with a 58.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад

      Awesome!!

    • @ke6gwf
      @ke6gwf 7 месяцев назад

      I had never thought about it that way before, but I guess I can say the same thing, Dave Rat taught me! Lol
      Now, I learned how to run sound the old fashioned way of just starting to push faders as a teenager at a tiny church, and then moving up as I got more experience, but it was when I discovered Dave's writings long ago that I actually started learning about how things actually worked, so he gets all the blame! Lol

  • @cjorg16
    @cjorg16 2 года назад

    Dave, great job describing the impacts of comb filter cancellations in space, not an easy thing to describe, but easy to demonstrate. Thanks for giving folks several ways to address this issue. You are appreciated.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍 awesome

  • @abcdxyz2
    @abcdxyz2 2 года назад +2

    I am thankful to have the opportunity to watch and learn from you Dave.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Super cool Andreas! I appreciate you joining and hanging out with me and us!

  • @bongoben23
    @bongoben23 2 года назад +2

    The 1st episode of 'Rat Responds to Reddit'
    😆
    Great info. Thanks!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍🤙👍

  • @covenantsound6774
    @covenantsound6774 2 года назад +2

    This was absolutely spectacular. Thanks Dave for taking the time to create video content that teaches and inspires learning. You rock sir.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙👍🤙

  • @calmartine9709
    @calmartine9709 2 года назад +1

    Dave, I love that you’ve put all this knowledge out there. I’ll be going to school for sound design in a couple weeks, and being able to see and learn from people like you is tremendously helpful. 🤙🤙

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      Awesome and hopefully the teachers remember to have fun are not too set in their ways.

  • @sparks3019
    @sparks3019 2 года назад +3

    Phenomenal discussion Dave, thank you! Wish I had heard this 40 years ago. I also wish I could find younger techs interested in the art of mixing but after one night they are done. It takes physical work and mental work and takes practice and study. Not something many young people want to do for $100 a night. Now they whip out the credit card, spend $10k on a large new system, don’t care about the music, and produce a lifeless mix. We learned so much in the 70s, 80s and 90s about sound and mixing and music. Glad you are here sharing so much more with those of us that don’t have access to the latest gear or reps.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Sparks!!

  • @mrwronggt13
    @mrwronggt13 Год назад +1

    Great bit of info in this for me. Some of the concepts I have learned to use (at times without realizing exactly what I was doing) a long time ago. Also, the more I listen to you explain this stuff, the more I laugh at the people that have a need to try and shoot you down. Keep it coming Dave. I'm all ears!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад

      Awesome Christopher!!

  • @JacobWildrick
    @JacobWildrick 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much Dave! Just worked my first summer as a monitor & FOH engineer for a decent little production company! Thanks so much for the information based off your experience. You’re the best! Love you!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      That is awesome!

  • @rayonism
    @rayonism 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Dave Rat for being so insanely generous with your time and information, it's really appreciated. Here's to Dave Rat!

  • @d.a.t.4699
    @d.a.t.4699 4 месяца назад

    I've never joined any other RUclips channel other than Dave rat, and another fellow ( guitarist)...that's how good I felt about learning proper sound applications...I've been playing for 40 years now, and have enough time in to know, that Dave's the dude for me when it comes sound...thanks for sharing your knowledge Dave, it's helped a lot...keep on keeping on man!

  • @freebeerirl
    @freebeerirl 2 года назад +14

    Dave. Greetings from Ireland. I never comment usually but I found your channel late in my music career to my detriment. I love how you explain technically difficult concepts so effortlessly. Stay off Reddit! Keep up the great work. Love it!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      Great to meet you Daragh! And it's good for me to do some offroading occasionally. Keeps things interesting

  • @FONFBand
    @FONFBand Год назад +1

    Honestly, your videos are by far, the best presentations of practical audio theory when it comes to live sound. Thank you for your work and diligence to offer clear, understandable and practical solutions to the problems faCED BY everyone who makes music.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад

      👍🤙👍 thank you

  • @anthonyanzalone
    @anthonyanzalone 2 года назад +3

    Thanks Dave. Man, this is fantastic. After hearing your theory on sending different signals to L/R I too was wondering the best ways to do it. This definitely gives me some ideas. I've started implementing turning one sub off and it really does even out the bass coverage in a typical bar/restaurant room.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Awesome Anthony!!

  • @TylerStraub
    @TylerStraub 2 года назад

    yo thanks Dave this was super inspiring. the way you explained decorrelation here just clicked for me for some reason. big respect!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      🔧🤙🔧

  • @josephkuhlman654
    @josephkuhlman654 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing what you have learned over many years. As always, there will always be someone who likes to be negative and probably have no idea what they are talking about. You have been very helpful iin my quest to do live sound for bands. Again, thank you for what you do.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🔧🤙

  • @sethwaltz8077
    @sethwaltz8077 Год назад +1

    I appreciate you providing all the info you do. I’ve learned a lot. Most people don’t get to work big venues like you do so they can’t even try some of it. I love techniques based on oddly applied acoustics.

  • @cowzinspace
    @cowzinspace 2 года назад +1

    Great video as always Dave! This was an even clearer explanation than last time, really enjoyed this! Thank you!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍👍👍

  • @mdeasy
    @mdeasy 2 года назад +1

    Love this stuff Dave!!! Keeping it real out there in the audio production jungle!!! Much appreciated man!!!!!!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍👍👍

  • @jonkilowatt4442
    @jonkilowatt4442 2 года назад

    Dave, the information you give out has totally changed the way I do things, and makes it more fun. I have learned and had lots of "a-ha" moments through all your breakdowns. Plus adding nerdy fun science of electrical engineering to correlate on audio itself. Its a real treat. Some people I guess cant grasp that information!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      So cool and thank you!! 👍👍

  • @imaginarytube
    @imaginarytube 2 года назад

    This is GOLD! Thank you Dave for taking the time to post!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍👍👍

  • @dlcarburetor
    @dlcarburetor 2 года назад +1

    Dave Rat, thanks, this is great stuff. You have helped open my eyes to so much I never even thought to try, just because I was told "thats not right" or "that's not the way". Wish I was closer to you, I would absolutely love to take one of your classes or just spend the day with you absorbing knowledge and exploring ideas. Thanks for sharing

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Great to meet ya DL Carb!

  • @KCYT2010
    @KCYT2010 2 года назад

    Thanks Dave.Awesome information and I really appreciate your willingness to share it !

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Kirk!

  • @neve2254e
    @neve2254e 2 года назад +3

    This is absolutely amazing. You are absolutely correct!!! I have struggled with PAs for years. After hearing a real orchestra in an amazing room with NO PA is amazing. It sounds 3d. No microphone or PA can really reproduce that experience.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      I agree and I believe we have set the standards way too low. People with high end esoteric hifi are still using stereo which is practically useless even if perfection is achieved for a single listening spot, as soon as 9ne moves even slightly the attempt at an illusion collapses.
      Not unlike a movie or a TV fails to convince us we are actually elsewhere. VR gets us closer and headphones with binaural sound does as well.
      But for speakers to recreate realism, stereo will always fail due to the limitatiins of two sound sources. Surround sound is an enhanced stereo.
      I will do a video of a sound source that gets closer to realism at some point.

  • @austinbridge
    @austinbridge 2 года назад

    I LOVED this video, Dave. Thank you for taking the time to share some of your wealth of knowledge. This is incredibly generous of you! ✌

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      🔧👍🔧

  • @deadscenedotcom
    @deadscenedotcom 2 года назад +1

    Couldn't imagine what the answer would be, but the explanation makes absolutely great sense. Appreciate this insight, Dave!

  • @timhughes2809
    @timhughes2809 2 года назад +1

    Your explanations are always great! You make everything understandable.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍🔧🔧👍

  • @brianmoss5483
    @brianmoss5483 2 года назад +1

    Glad you take the time to answer questions. Like those who took time to answer mine when I was a young padawan learner.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🤙🎤🎤

  • @robertmaune8557
    @robertmaune8557 Год назад +1

    I've been designing recording studios for over 20 years, and there is so much fascinating and fresh stuff here. Good brain tickling. Thanks.

  • @patrickfarley8036
    @patrickfarley8036 Год назад +1

    Dave, your a frickin guru bro!
    You make the most sense out of topics and scenarios others seem to go out of their way to complicate!!
    You used several words today that until now did not exist in my vocabulary and if you asked me for the definitions of those words I wouldn't have known.
    But your presentation explained in context what each word was WITHOUT saying "That means" and give the book definition AND I didn't have to go look it up!!!!
    I understood everything you said and learned to speak like a "sound guy"!
    You're one of a kind in my world, man! I'm very glad I found your channel!!!
    🤘💀🤘

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад

      Thank you Patrick! That rules!!!

  • @MrAmiaffe
    @MrAmiaffe 10 месяцев назад

    I've been a freelancer for just slightly less than a year now in live audio and it's been going swimmingly. I just wanna say I fucking love you man!

  • @ivanduke
    @ivanduke 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for being so open. You are a great resource.I have implemented a few of your tricks. Today I will try some subtle panning. I am Primarily a musician but I have a Sunday morning front of house Gig that helps to pay the bills.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Very cool and keep it fun!

  • @adrianobassbra
    @adrianobassbra 2 года назад

    Thanks Dave I'm sharing your videos to my technicians friends from Brazil!

  • @freelance_commie
    @freelance_commie 2 года назад

    Damn, I’m glad you answered this thread! Brilliant stuff, thanks Dave!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Alex and more to come

  • @Aio-Project
    @Aio-Project 2 года назад +1

    its incredible just how much you prioritize projecting the magic thats happening on stage. so many young sound techs care way more about creating a textbook mix and forget to create a good audience experience

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      🤙👍🤙 🎤🎤🎤

  • @brycejones8367
    @brycejones8367 2 года назад +3

    Awesome Dave, thanks for the explanation. Please keep the lessons coming. Cheers from NZ

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Cheers Bryce!! Cheers NZ!

  • @monkeymhn7
    @monkeymhn7 2 года назад +1

    I totally agree with your response. The key points I take from this are each situation is different and we as sound man have the ability to adapt in many ways.
    Thank you for sharing your technical knowledge and experience in a manner that is understandable and helpful to the many with little or no formal training.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙👍🤙

  • @tylerkeeton17
    @tylerkeeton17 2 года назад +2

    Just want to take a sec and say thanks for all the time and effort you put into providing content. Always love to see what you come out with next!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🔧👍🔧

  • @therealjustincase
    @therealjustincase 2 года назад +1

    Cool cool! :) Have been subscribed and watching your channel for quite a while now and, as always, greatly enjoying every new video, the trove of practical knowledge, experience and ideas you so graciously share as well as your deep understanding and explaining the actual physics behind the inner workings of the complex sound reinforcement systems. Thank you Dave and keep up the great work!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍🤙👍

  • @mjolles1976
    @mjolles1976 Год назад +1

    Just getting started as a sound tech but always listened to Dave’s advice as a DJ and it’s always solid. He will always be in my tool box!!

  • @TheMessiah91
    @TheMessiah91 8 месяцев назад

    I been running aux subs! Thank you for sharing your wisdom with all your video content much appreciate your work sir.

  • @Turacalp
    @Turacalp 2 года назад +1

    I attended to a workshop of yours in Istanbul years ago and it was really mind altering. Maybe all mixing tips didn't work for me but the idea of keeping exploring after so many years changed how I think about FOH mixing. Thank you..

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      That's so cool and I remember! Thank you

  • @manaudio1
    @manaudio1 2 года назад

    Dave, your empirical approach and associated theory is very useful and extends knowledge and provides options. In many cases in live sound there is simply not one correct way of doing things. I for one have found your insight has increased oand/or reinforced my knowledge. As they say every day is a school day, thank you.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      So cool thank you Matthew!

  • @Bikewrench
    @Bikewrench 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge dave, That was a great informative response to the question. Wish whoever would have posted that would have asked here instead of reddit. I try to avoid hanging out places like that, too much hate from people who have no clue what they're talking about. Please don't spend to much time or effort with negative comments. You've got over 50k subscribers here that love you and value your information.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      All good and reddit has am8x of curious minds and trolls and sometimes it's good to call out the trolls. Reddit has an up vote down vote hierarchy so it does not take much to down vote trolls into obscurity.

  • @deramericansur2897
    @deramericansur2897 2 года назад

    Please, never stop doing this! Thanks!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      So appreciative that this is 8nterwsting and useful

  • @vk3fbab
    @vk3fbab 2 года назад +3

    Let's face it you can't please everyone all the time. From what I can see your views are firmly based on the physics of sound and the engineering of sound reproduction. So people who come from the black magic and Voodoo side of sound will take exception to science and the scientific method. So glad you enjoy sharing your craft for everyone to learn from even those that don't get it. Keep it up man.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Bravo!!

  • @javierjanaid
    @javierjanaid 2 года назад

    Thanks for your channel David, I always enjoy your videos

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      Awesome and thank you

  • @jthunderbass1
    @jthunderbass1 2 года назад +3

    I’ve done the panned kick thing. Simply amazing. Tremendous low and with so much space for guitars.
    I’ve done two different PA with vocals only in one. Simply amazing.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🤙🤙

  • @mvilla36
    @mvilla36 2 года назад

    Dave you are spot on what a lot of people don’t understand is when you’re doing audio you’re painting a picture with your eyes closed just using your ears and the knowledge of the tools that you were using like I said before I can’t wait till one day to meet you whether it’ll be a big bear or at a venue

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Cool cool Michael!

  • @antztudio
    @antztudio 2 года назад +1

    I really appreciate you. I m not yet at your level of proficiency and probably will not get there but I learn so much from you.
    You make my brain spark.
    Thanks.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Stay curious, have fun and be experimental when the situation permits

    • @antztudio
      @antztudio 2 года назад +1

      @@DaveRat Will do , thanks mate.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍👍👍

  • @thetrain1919
    @thetrain1919 Год назад +1

    Dave, I’ve watched your videos since 2011 and have always valued your incredible expertise and ability to explain the things that blend both art and science.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад

      So cool and thank you!!!!

  • @carlstockmal
    @carlstockmal 2 года назад

    I have always found your videos helpful, and interesting. They inspired me to want to start a program called "Fix My Band," because the local groups just don't seem to have the business sense to run a band, nor the equipment to make their band sound good. Don't give in to those who don't understand - musicians CAN make a living and sound great. Sometimes we need help, and you're helping.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Carl!!

  • @Dan-ii3oo
    @Dan-ii3oo 2 года назад +2

    Dave Rat you my friend have the best energy out. Always calm and collected.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🤙🤙 ty

  • @ChrisThomasBone
    @ChrisThomasBone 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for sharing your information, Dave! You certainly helped me to be a better sound engineer

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      👍🤙👍

  • @djfehi4109
    @djfehi4109 2 года назад +1

    This is excellent!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you DJ!!

  • @juwbone
    @juwbone 2 года назад +1

    It was good to hear you talking about this, I seem to remember you put out a video covering these ideas in detail some time ago. I welcomed the information because prior to your video all the information in regard to sound reinforcement systems seemed to be pointing in the direction of a mono-block stack , each side of the stage, ... for coverage reasons!
    I had been a free party system tech for many years and always ran a stereo rig, ...even though it was (and probably still is) deeply unfashionable in that scene ; ) While I can understand that once you scale up a stereo system new factors come into play due to the large distance between the individual stacks, dumping a stereo mix seems such a wasted opportunity. I guess back in the day when you weren't tied to a particular seat, ...anyone who was interested enough would move around the area and find their own sweet-spot.
    I kept doing research looking for something that reflected my own preference, ..the joy of stereo, and I eventually did find information about the subtle differences in level of individual elements of a stereo mix would reduce the unwanted combing between the stacks, now we're talking! The issue of the 'power alley' in the bass was also creatively addressed by good old Tony Andrews, this is what he was saying in an interview with TPI magazine at the Glade stage at Glastobollox 2016.
    "I’m calling what we’re doing ‘split-layering the bass’. You keep single sources by splitting the bass into two, with sub-sub on one side and ordinary bass on the other. They go over the top of each other, and they don’t do the same frequencies at all. So, for example, you do 25-45Hz on one side and then 45-90Hz on the other. That way you’ve only got one source. People in the audience get both things together, there’s no conflict. It’s amazing. This has been the first time we’ve been able to tr y it out."
    Hats off to you Dave for all the fab information you share with everybody, all for the simple reason that the people in the audience can be truly moved the the audio experience, even if they are completely unaware of it ;)

  • @micahmuth4256
    @micahmuth4256 2 года назад

    Sir, I found your channel back in 09. I had no idea what you were talking about but I tried to understand it all. hahaha I ended up going to school and then things started to click. but anyway, I'm glad you put your stuff out there. every-time I engage with your content via youtube or online I always walk away having learned something new or a different approach. Thank you. Keep it up.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Wonderful Micah! Super appreciate the story and longevity. Makes thos a great adventure for me

  • @Dimebag333x
    @Dimebag333x 2 года назад +3

    Even just panning my keys and guitars makes a huge difference. Even in small venues. Dave doesn’t lie.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🤙🤙

  • @anthonyg44332
    @anthonyg44332 2 года назад +1

    Hi, Dave rat. I started watching your RUclips videos lately and you give a lot of show and tell with professional audio equipment. I'm a self taught audio engineer and producer. I certainly admire your work and enthusiasm. Keep up the good work on your videos would love to see more.
    Sincerely.
    Anthony Gloria

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Anthony!

  • @joelglaser5657
    @joelglaser5657 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Dave! Excellent info.
    btw, I LOVE your T shirt!!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Awesome and thank you and if you're up to help support my RUclips endeavor I put a shirt site together at www.soundymcsoundface.com

  • @haldorasgirson9463
    @haldorasgirson9463 Год назад +1

    You are like a prophet of sonic purity. An old skater prophet😁 I am an EE and have never heard decorrelation explained more expressively. Thanks for the lesson.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  Год назад

      Awesome and thank you!

  • @Patrick_Roach
    @Patrick_Roach 2 года назад +1

    This is something i've been curious about for some time and I love all the info you share on your channel, your channel is truly an incredibly valuable resource, but i was really looking forward to seeing the test you mentioned at the end and a little disappointed when it wasn't there because I understand what you're saying in theory but hard to truly understand without a demonstration. Maybe a future video? I'm a young sound guy who knows enough to get by and do an acceptable (sometimes even good) job but also painfully aware that i have so much more to learn, so i am really happy i stumbled across your channel. Thank you!!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +2

      The test will be an expansion on the demo in this video
      ruclips.net/video/VHjdh-Vka-g/видео.html

    • @Patrick_Roach
      @Patrick_Roach 2 года назад +1

      @@DaveRat this is great! Thank you so much!!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      🤙👍🤙

  • @DaleBoyce2012
    @DaleBoyce2012 2 года назад

    Thank you Dave! I have learned a lot from watching you test scenarios.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🔧🤙

  • @ronwelty7217
    @ronwelty7217 2 года назад +1

    Not like I needed this video to know this, it just makes me want to say it, you're as cool as they come Dave... Appreciate you my friend!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Thank you Ron!!

  • @fandingas
    @fandingas 2 года назад

    I don't usually comment but, I just have to.
    I find it super fascinating hearing someone talking about any subject with some factual knowledge of what they're talking about, as well as an undeniable passion for it, just like you do here.
    The funny thing is, I'm not a pro-audio guy, but I could listen to you for hours!
    I thank you on behalf of humanity, for the service you do with this lessons you give to us, and also wish you all the best.
    Cheers!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Wow and thank you!!

  • @SuperMcgenius
    @SuperMcgenius 2 года назад

    Thanks Dave, years ago in a small club / 300. I ran a single cabinet centred just for the lead vocal, I am no mixing pro. Sounded good. I love the idea of double column pa.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🔧👍🔧

  • @bradpierce
    @bradpierce 2 года назад

    Amazingly interesting. Thank god we have u in our lives!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      Big humble thanks

  • @tomehCanada
    @tomehCanada 2 года назад +1

    Excellent Dave. Before you comment people please; 1. Re--view the original video to extract as much as you can fromit. 2. Setup the experiments yourself and see for yourself the cause and effect. 3. Search for more info on the topic and read/watch it. Then formulate your questions.

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      I do appreciate the questions and interactions and comments and also, asking a question without doing some research first often denies the asker valuable added info learned in researching the subject

  • @fullracecam1
    @fullracecam1 2 года назад +2

    This is great! I want to see more for sure!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад +1

      🤙👍🤙

  • @dtroutmann
    @dtroutmann 9 месяцев назад

    They just wanted to say thanks for always keeping things for him explaining things in a simple way honestly if someone can't understand what you're saying it's cuz they're not listening

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper 2 года назад +1

    You're great. So glad I discovered your channel!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      I am so happy you came to join!!

  • @TPROJTMIX1
    @TPROJTMIX1 2 года назад

    Always enjoy your vids. Exploring the vast galaxy of sound in ways previously unknown. As manufacturers produce more complex systems, basic principles remain. Not always true because the more we learn, the aspect from which those principles were conceived reveal different data. Dave you bring reality to the forefront in down to earth ways. Thank you ! (In my generation....Far Out !".

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      👍👍🔧🔧🤙🤙

  • @phatbeachdaddy2346
    @phatbeachdaddy2346 2 года назад +2

    Dave, thanks for your time putting these together. I’ve already referred you to many who I thought might get something out of your videos. Wasn’t it Einstein who said (paraphrase) “If you can explain an advanced concept to a third grader, you’ve shown mastery of the subject.” Well, I’m a third grader when it comes to sound engineering. So I’ll vouch for ya’. You do you and tell the doubters to get off your beach!

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      🤙🎤🤙

  • @joelmathejojo
    @joelmathejojo 2 года назад

    I tried applying this the first the i saw a video from Dave about it and it worked. I’m from a small church and I tried the method of doing different Eq on each speaker rig and I absolutely heard a difference, there was absolute clarity and less comb filtering …..so yeah…….the man knows what he’s talking about

    • @DaveRat
      @DaveRat  2 года назад

      I love this. The experimenting and also that info may be of use