Man losing Steel Joker really cut your mult mult in a noticeable way, quite literally by 20 times. I wish there were more ways to get negative edition jokers that maybe had a different cost other than hand size. That way you could have negatived Steel Joker and kept him stacking through the game until the end.
it's amusing to no end that no matter what point in the run an ankh appears, he will just silently admire it, pondering what would happen if he uses it, just to go "no." then roll it.
@@bananaananab3916i am a bull and bootstraps build fan so a lot of my decks are directly economy based and ankh is great for pivoting off those builds where you're building up money constantly
54:00 It would take 8 additional triggers of steel to equal the benefit of the Steel Joker at that point in the run; adding a DNA only gives 3 at best in the copy pattern. It's a huge falloff, and falls off more as SJ scales.
It unfortunately doesn't matter a whole lot, right now, only occasionally being useful with consumable cards like Immolate + Immolate or Immolate + hanged man, but I can see it being used for some interesting stuff in mods or future content updates.
Yeah after watching Aliensrock play this game, it is rough watching Skoottie. Skoottie makes so many misplays because he is just trying to play too fast.
@@Beessoup actually I prefer watching skootie play compared to aliensrock. I feel like while he makes misplays he fundamentally understands the game much better and his misplays are more "oops I forgot" rather than actual misplays. meanwhile I feel like aliensrock has a weaker grasp of the game but a more careful mindset, which is an excellent learner mindset but a less interesting watching experience.
5:11 "Nevermind, it was the right play all along" He says after losing one gold by not playing Hermit before a purchase, as he then uses Fool without using Hermit beforehand and misses out on a further 8 gold! Oops lol
The chat worrying about what the developers focus is is very funny. You're playing a very much complete game and you're BLESSED if they bother to continue working on it, quite honestly.
I was curious so i did the math, the steel joker with a 57.75x mult is better than the blueprint joker, assuming you have 10 steel cards in hand and the blueprint and brainstorm are triggering the mime ( 1.5^40 * 57.75 > 1.5^50 )
when he got rid of the steel joker it had x21.5 mult, scaling 0.25 mult per extra steel. To scale it to 57.75 he would needed to add another 145 steel cards, with 3 extra steel created per round, it would have taken 48.3 rounds, which wasn't possible since he was already at ante 12. However, if he had replaced 2nd DNA with blue print, he would have continued to make 3 extra steel per round, kept the steel joker's scaling, and still be able to copy mime whenever he needed, it would have been the much better play
I think selling that last DNA was a mistake; using it (plus the 3 copier jokers) to clone a red-sealed steel 9 let you go over your hand limit in order to make the second hand pop off.
For future runs where you’re focusing on one card you can use justice on cards you don’t want and just play them and hope they break, especially when you have to use hands as discards
Recently found your channel after being introduced to balatro by Aliensrock. Amazing content, but both of you owe me the money i spent on this game as well as multiple days of my life. Youll be hearing from my lawyers.
They need to make scaling cards retroactive (and reduce the mult to compensate) they're way too overpowered if you get them early (it pretty much forces you to get them) but if you get them late it just feels bad. Take a shot for every "If only I got it earlier" you hear when binging Balatro videos.
This was sick! You could probably milk this seed for a few other videos, like an ace fib run, 8 ball, all kings, etc... and yes I would probably watch all of them!
holy crap I didn't even consider that Balatro could be ported onto mobile until you brought it up. I would never get any work done ever again if that happens.
I have an Idea for a moded joker Name: The Dealer Rarity: Uncommon (maybe rare?) Description: upon first discard, the FIRST card in discard line, will redraw that type of card (until no more cards left in discard) Example: Discarding: 9,7,4,Ace,King Redrawing (Assuming its a standard 52 card deck): 9,9,9,8,2
I’ve done a bit of maths so the theoretical highest score following this strategy with the idea of a had size of 8 (kings taken) baron mime and two face would give you base+10 x base mult^288
@@powerlifting1012Playing high card leaves more room to hold steel cards in hand. With the mime joker + red seals the extra 12 x 1.5 triggers is much better than the higher base mult & chips from flush five in most situations.
Having Steel Joker versus efectively another Mime is kinda complicated. The idea is that Steel Joker scales infinitely as long as you continue to add steel cards to your deck. While copying Mime adds a more short-term buff to your score. Your hand size will more than likely never increase to give you more procs. Therefore, you've hit a brick wall in your scaling potential. Steel Joker, being able to scale infinitely, would eventually catch up to the power spike from mime. The problem is time. You would never be able to reach that point because the ante outscales you. So the best choice is to simply take the short-term and pray you find something better.
Have you seen Aliensrock double DNA joker run. He duplicated foil glass aces with the glass joker and eventually added the red seal, with a glass joker, totem and blueprint. He scored into the quintillions and it wasn't seeded.
This was my second win when I first played. Got blueprint DNA Cloud Nine and a few mult jokers I forgot which (License I think?) I had like 40 9s by the time I topped out on endless when Steels couldn't carry me any more.
Huh. I didn't know if you destroy all cards in your hand it redraws for you without using a discard. Makes me think a no discard challenge could be an interesting idea.
19:36 should have use the death and then get it back with fool. Replace any card with another steel nine would have been better than doing nothing there.
Idk if I grabbed the right seed or not, but every time I get to the point where you get the mega spectral pack I get a jumbo standard. Any thoughts why?
It took me a few tries but I finally got a flush five deck, all glass + polychrome + red seal on an unseeded run lmao New high score in the e12 range letsgo
Very entertaining run! But it was kind of bothering me that you got the interest voucher so early and then never stopped rerolling at 50$. You got the voucher at Ante 5 and got to Ante 15 so that was close to of 10*3*10$=300$ wasted.
4.864e14 with a normal purple seal 9, but only goes up to 9.728e14 with the next 9 but the same amount of steel triggers from the hand? Am I missing something or is my math just not mathing right?
i don't really see the problem here, he played a first hand making 4.864e14 with 11 steel cards and a purple seal 9, so basically a basic 9 The second hand scored exactly the same amount of chips since it was a basic 9 and still 11 steel cards in hand So the total is 4.864e14 + 4.864e14 = 9.728e14
Idea for joker: Gain ×0.01 Mult for each discard done. Alternate: Gain ×0.05 Multi Per Discard (resets per ante) Alternate Alternate: Gain ×0.1 Multi Per Discard (resets per round) [Upgrade[new opiton in the two button menu that shows when clicking the joker]: (costs 25 dollars) Gain one chip for each hand played throughout the run)].
This is a seeded run it's quite hard to make this amount of money with random jokers. I think the whole point of balatro is it's supposed to be ridiculous if the stars align
SEED: 9KH4XADC
I really wanna see you use this seed again and copy something new!
Man losing Steel Joker really cut your mult mult in a noticeable way, quite literally by 20 times. I wish there were more ways to get negative edition jokers that maybe had a different cost other than hand size. That way you could have negatived Steel Joker and kept him stacking through the game until the end.
Do I have to use the same deck for the seed to work?
The seed being 9K H4X is too funny
Erratic deck all nines when?
it's amusing to no end that no matter what point in the run an ankh appears, he will just silently admire it, pondering what would happen if he uses it, just to go "no." then roll it.
It’s the best spectral card in the game
@@That-_-Guyfor seeded runs or ante 1-3, sure. Any other time it's a down right run-ender
@@chillrendbeatsI think it depends cause with enough economy in later antes an ankh into re rolling for all your lost jokers can be fun
@@bananaananab3916i am a bull and bootstraps build fan so a lot of my decks are directly economy based and ankh is great for pivoting off those builds where you're building up money constantly
I'm glad you went for 9s on this one. Ace, King, and Queen decks are all super common, this is one you really don't see every day
When he said he plays a lot of seeded in a different video i didn't know that he plays THIS MUCH seeded
i recently started playing more challenge runs lol
@@Skoottie why not both?
A seeded runs with challenges
@@Skoottie challenge runs are some of the most entertaining to watch, for me personally
sneeded run
@@Hrydraa chucked run
54:00
It would take 8 additional triggers of steel to equal the benefit of the Steel Joker at that point in the run; adding a DNA only gives 3 at best in the copy pattern. It's a huge falloff, and falls off more as SJ scales.
I got a triple cavendish run unseeded and scored 3 billion with it, one of the most fun runs I’ve ever played
7:18
Banana power!!!
37:07 that's an interesting rare case where destroying your entire hand just gives you a free entire hand refresh 🤔
It unfortunately doesn't matter a whole lot, right now, only occasionally being useful with consumable cards like Immolate + Immolate or Immolate + hanged man, but I can see it being used for some interesting stuff in mods or future content updates.
2 ectoplasms gets you to hand size 5 in the ghost deck, so 1 immolate works well there
the amount of times he left discards on the board with purple seals in hand and empty consumable slots hurt me in places I didn't know existed
So many times even after chat kept commenting about it
@@RR-dj8vfMaybe it’s a tactic to farm engagement from annoyed commenters 😂
It’s gettin me for sure
Yeah after watching Aliensrock play this game, it is rough watching Skoottie. Skoottie makes so many misplays because he is just trying to play too fast.
@@Beessoup actually I prefer watching skootie play compared to aliensrock. I feel like while he makes misplays he fundamentally understands the game much better and his misplays are more "oops I forgot" rather than actual misplays. meanwhile I feel like aliensrock has a weaker grasp of the game but a more careful mindset, which is an excellent learner mindset but a less interesting watching experience.
selling dna for bean was a bad play skoots :( dna was plus 4 hand size permanently
I think it's so cool how patient you are with your viewers and questions from the chat
5:11 "Nevermind, it was the right play all along" He says after losing one gold by not playing Hermit before a purchase, as he then uses Fool without using Hermit beforehand and misses out on a further 8 gold! Oops lol
The chat worrying about what the developers focus is is very funny. You're playing a very much complete game and you're BLESSED if they bother to continue working on it, quite honestly.
33:00 Showman into immediate Showman had me laughing my ass off
I was curious so i did the math, the steel joker with a 57.75x mult is better than the blueprint joker, assuming you have 10 steel cards in hand and the blueprint and brainstorm are triggering the mime ( 1.5^40 * 57.75 > 1.5^50 )
I think he should have replaced 2nd DNA with Steel Joker. he didnt need 4 Dna triggers on Ante 10 or 12
when he got rid of the steel joker it had x21.5 mult, scaling 0.25 mult per extra steel. To scale it to 57.75 he would needed to add another 145 steel cards, with 3 extra steel created per round, it would have taken 48.3 rounds, which wasn't possible since he was already at ante 12.
However, if he had replaced 2nd DNA with blue print, he would have continued to make 3 extra steel per round, kept the steel joker's scaling, and still be able to copy mime whenever he needed, it would have been the much better play
They are almost the same
The blueprint can copy the steel joker which means it gets squared every blind.
This is one of the reasons I'm glad I'm up at 1 AM, love your videos man
I think selling that last DNA was a mistake; using it (plus the 3 copier jokers) to clone a red-sealed steel 9 let you go over your hand limit in order to make the second hand pop off.
Gets the reroll voucher after spending 400 dollars on rerolls lmao
I hate how he rolls to zero every single round when he can just wait one round to get extra 20 dollars from money tree… That’s 20% of cloud 9…
AliensRock did a livestream with a similar busted build and it was amazingly overpowered
love the DNA seeds lmao
side note this is not the same seed for anyone wondering
If I was still watching Tyler, it would be so cool to watch
For future runs where you’re focusing on one card you can use justice on cards you don’t want and just play them and hope they break, especially when you have to use hands as discards
You needed the DNA for the extra cards it puts in your hand with red seals.
skoottie ignoring the glass cards even though he wants to destroy stuff hurts every time
this issue is that glass cards only have a chance to break if theyre played and scored
Recently found your channel after being introduced to balatro by Aliensrock. Amazing content, but both of you owe me the money i spent on this game as well as multiple days of my life. Youll be hearing from my lawyers.
If you want even more Balatro content, GothicLordUK is my recommendation. He is my go to for Balatro videos.
Welcome to the skoot experience
Reel
Erm, actually it's reAl not reEl
The game is cheap.
Very fun! 😂
Bit frustrating at moments when he gets caught up in the memes and misplays small advantages, but keeps up the engagement 👌
They need to make scaling cards retroactive (and reduce the mult to compensate) they're way too overpowered if you get them early (it pretty much forces you to get them) but if you get them late it just feels bad. Take a shot for every "If only I got it earlier" you hear when binging Balatro videos.
Honestly would be a fun joker to grab, the "time traveller's joker" perhaps?
@@Glacier_Nester Time Dilation, maybe?
you don't have to only discard 1 card for Burning Joker, it copies the hand, so you can discard 5 cards and still upgrade High Card
This was sick! You could probably milk this seed for a few other videos, like an ace fib run, 8 ball, all kings, etc... and yes I would probably watch all of them!
holy crap I didn't even consider that Balatro could be ported onto mobile until you brought it up. I would never get any work done ever again if that happens.
Well, how is it?
I have an Idea for a moded joker
Name: The Dealer
Rarity: Uncommon (maybe rare?)
Description: upon first discard, the FIRST card in discard line, will redraw that type of card (until no more cards left in discard)
Example:
Discarding: 9,7,4,Ace,King
Redrawing (Assuming its a standard 52 card deck): 9,9,9,8,2
11:04 doesn't it eventually make the math work out for flush 5, as we learned in the lucky run?
The seeded runs are fun, love seeing ludicrous stuff go the distance.
Tip: try to stay above 25$ for extra money
If the bean was compatible then that wouldve been a crazy synergy
What would be funny for a mod is “Bloated Joker”
+1 to mult for each card above 52/40 for abandoned in your deck, like erosion but big
Holographic joker is close enough, gains mult every time you add a card to your deck
@@alenshirvanyan473 has to be enhanced though
@@elijahr_1998 i dont think that is true
@@alenshirvanyan473 oh dang you're right
I’ve done a bit of maths so the theoretical highest score following this strategy with the idea of a had size of 8 (kings taken) baron mime and two face would give you base+10 x base mult^288
Localthunk (the developer) did an AMA on the r/games subreddit this week. A mobile version is indeed coming.
when you pull out dinner n refresh youtube to this🤩
$100 bucks a round 😱😱😱
Kid named "Two Temperances" 😎
This shows how crazy strong baron is, this was so optimized and could only get e14.
Why was he only doing high card?
@@powerlifting1012Playing high card leaves more room to hold steel cards in hand. With the mime joker + red seals the extra 12 x 1.5 triggers is much better than the higher base mult & chips from flush five in most situations.
how did het get the hex card at the beginning?
It comes with this deck (the Ghost Deck*).
*Spectral Cards may appear individually in the shop, and you start with a Hex card.
I just commented earlier about a full 9 deck on your full 10 deck video, oh my god xD
Having Steel Joker versus efectively another Mime is kinda complicated.
The idea is that Steel Joker scales infinitely as long as you continue to add steel cards to your deck. While copying Mime adds a more short-term buff to your score. Your hand size will more than likely never increase to give you more procs. Therefore, you've hit a brick wall in your scaling potential. Steel Joker, being able to scale infinitely, would eventually catch up to the power spike from mime. The problem is time. You would never be able to reach that point because the ante outscales you. So the best choice is to simply take the short-term and pray you find something better.
Okay yes, I shall subscribe, good vid👍
when does Showman ever pay off, I see it being a dead joker slot for most of his runs
I think it simply became a meme at this point
11:10 Plain wrong, it negates the negative WHILE being negative.
would u ever do a video talking about what u wanna see in the game?
Have you seen Aliensrock double DNA joker run. He duplicated foil glass aces with the glass joker and eventually added the red seal, with a glass joker, totem and blueprint. He scored into the quintillions and it wasn't seeded.
man can we get some unseeded runs
This was my second win when I first played. Got blueprint DNA Cloud Nine and a few mult jokers I forgot which (License I think?) I had like 40 9s by the time I topped out on endless when Steels couldn't carry me any more.
Huh. I didn't know if you destroy all cards in your hand it redraws for you without using a discard.
Makes me think a no discard challenge could be an interesting idea.
Have you heard the funk Balatro intro cover by Don Palombi? It’s so sick
how has he still not have bought 10 blank vouchers already
Why do you waste so much money on rerolls when you're going to be clearing the blind so easily? 21:33 was crazy to me
I'm going to turn that cluuud into a 9 shaped cluuud.
Lol my buddy and I still make this reference all the time. Rare to see one in the wild
You should always use emperror instead of selling it unless you're trying to hold a specific fool.
19:36 should have use the death and then get it back with fool. Replace any card with another steel nine would have been better than doing nothing there.
Showman was such a trap every time
Can't really hate him for seeded when only 1 in 3 unseeded makes it past ante 5
Maybe if your bad at the game 🤷♂️
Bus would work great with this build
Idk if I grabbed the right seed or not, but every time I get to the point where you get the mega spectral pack I get a jumbo standard. Any thoughts why?
I bet you wish you had that hiker now lol
Question, what is the reason to get everything to level 2 regarding planet cards?
And here I thought my run last night of Ankh causing double foil rockets just before the first boss blind was giving me good money...
What's the point of seeded?
It took me a few tries but I finally got a flush five deck, all glass + polychrome + red seal on an unseeded run lmao
New high score in the e12 range letsgo
Do a seed focusing only on 6 and 9. I'm sure it'll be very nice.
With this amount of cash I would've just take the bull or the money boot,and I don't understand why selling the steel joker
Additive mult (like the boot) would do pretty much nothing with so much many steel cards
^ what he said and if you think you can just put it first, the playing card effects go off before the jokers do
How does he start with the polychrome spectral card for the jokers?
ghost deck
i kid you not i got a dna cloud nine build while watching this
Is this just the seed Aliensrock got on his best run? Both started with double polychrome DNA
It's painful to watch you not moving around stuff for brainstorm
What was the deck and seed you were using?
9KH4XADC
(and ghost deck)
Very entertaining run! But it was kind of bothering me that you got the interest voucher so early and then never stopped rerolling at 50$. You got the voucher at Ante 5 and got to Ante 15 so that was close to of 10*3*10$=300$ wasted.
4.864e14 with a normal purple seal 9, but only goes up to 9.728e14 with the next 9 but the same amount of steel triggers from the hand? Am I missing something or is my math just not mathing right?
i don't really see the problem here, he played a first hand making 4.864e14 with 11 steel cards and a purple seal 9, so basically a basic 9
The second hand scored exactly the same amount of chips since it was a basic 9 and still 11 steel cards in hand
So the total is 4.864e14 + 4.864e14 = 9.728e14
I good triggered by just discarding one card. You are able to discard 5 cards and still level up high card
Idea for joker: Gain ×0.01 Mult for each discard done.
Alternate: Gain ×0.05 Multi Per Discard (resets per ante)
Alternate Alternate: Gain ×0.1 Multi Per Discard (resets per round) [Upgrade[new opiton in the two button menu that shows when clicking the joker]: (costs 25 dollars) Gain one chip for each hand played throughout the run)].
Gain one chip for each hand played throughout the run sounds to be another idea for a joker.
What’s the importance of upgrading unused hands past level 1?
On my run I got a few spectral pack why you have alot?
I really think that getting rid of steel joker was a big mistake
I feel like bull with this would've gone dummy just stckpile money to build chips
Can someone tell me what the reason is for using irrelevant planets when they're level 1 but selling the ones that are level 2?
Please use this seed again but pick a different gimmick, this is so fun to watch
I wanna see a seed where Cavendish breaks on the first round
I just got black hole for the first time I didn’t know it existed
I still think he was getting money quicker on the lucky run, lmao
Man U gotta turn the speed up in settings, it’s so slow!
Why didn't you death a purple and use fool to get a new death
why wanting iron card ? is glass not beter ?
this is the seed aliensrock rolled, right?
Takes interest voucher
Spends all his money.
Why skoottie lmao
Challenge: get 10k coins (unseeded run)
I don’t get spending down to $0 while your deck is still crushing it. Could have made an extra $20 per round
The re-trigger first hand played would re-trigger those DNA's, giving you 6 copies each turn, just saying...
i don't understand seed play.. like are you not guaranteed wins on seeds?
Sometimes it's fun to simply be OP
@RobinClower i honestly cannot beat this game even once 😂
I was playing a seed that got me double blueprint and burnt joker so i got to lvl 70 flush 5
Shouldn't have sold the steel joker
The $ is on the incorrect side of the 100 in the thumbnail, that is all.
I feel like cloud nine is gonna get nerfed to have an upper limit to how much money it makes
This is a seeded run it's quite hard to make this amount of money with random jokers. I think the whole point of balatro is it's supposed to be ridiculous if the stars align
@@powerlifting1012thats right, and there are other insane ways to make a ton of money anyway
so disappointed when the Cloud 9 just gave up at 60 dollars
i get my first win only because i wanted the spectral deck XD
correction ghost deck