You’re right, out of every character in Infinity War and Endgame, you think that it is ruined because of one character I’m joking, I kinda agree with you how Rhodey developed his character only to be an alien
till now we don,t know is it after civil war or post endgame I hope it is after endgame if not it won,t be good and I am pretty sure fans might not like it so i hope marvel reveal that it is after the events of endgame.
Id love to see a War Machine film that delves into Rhodey's emotional turmoil realizing he wasn't there when his best friend needed him the most. This could create a fantastic film that isn't just another superhero film and be also a very human film. Kinda like the Black Panther films which is why they are among the best, if not the best, Marvel films. Him visoting Tony at his grace a few times. Feeling more inadequate and having to not fully overcoming it yet, but able to move forward and begin to overcome the loss of so much time and his best friend as well as the loss of Black Widow, who he also remembers. And no, not a show, a film. You can do it all justice in a single film. Just bring back those who worked on Civil War and Black Panther to make this film. But it'll never happen. Poof
If Rhodey is confirmed to be replaced with a scrull in Infinity War and Endgame, it will be a huge middle finger from authors to his role in these big events
@barbodx9957 the premise of SI hinged on Nick Fury (and Carol Danvers) not being able to find a world for the Skrulls to make their new home. In Endgame, Danvers reconned "the garden" (as Nebula called it) and found it completely unpopulated except for Thanos himself. It would have been perfect for the Skrulls, and Skrull Rhodey was there to see it for herself.
@@ddemons4730 they made the big bad look like a big bitch - he's supposed to be the next Thanos, the one we need the Avengers to group up and fight in some epic war after the humiliation of our team as they try to take him solo. Instead, they gave us some guy who couldn't beat a weakened Ant-Man.
@@chill_notionMaybe they wanted some kind of revenge on Humans (& Fury) because they found out about it and Carol obviously knew abt it too, but never told them ?? Well I guess technically Fury was blipped so he didn’t know. But Carol did.
His legs are FOREVER BROKEN. In endgame he almost dies cuz his suit broke and he was crawling cuz of his legs. He even tells rocket to leave. rhodey was ready to die. U think a dam skrull is gonna risk his life in those circumstances to stay being a human with broken back and legs???😂😂😂he’d just use his skrull strength and get tf outta there. As for the gown AGAIN his legs and back are broken. Obviously he has to go in and out of therapy sessions without the braces. He’s a veteran of war that’s the only place and time the Skrulls could capture him without a fight.
Haha what an innovative idea! Love the part where we retcon two movies worth of character establishment to have a reveal that means nothing! Please do more of that!
That would mean he’s been one for ten years which is a bit much. I hope the real Rhodey was in Endgame because it’s my favourite movie. But let’s hope Armour Wars makes this clearer and easier to accept.
Bro I’ve had this theory ever since Loki. Question is, when in the timeline did Loki give everyone free will? I’m pretty sure everything after endgame has strayed away from the main timeline. Which is why Spider-Man messing up the multiverse, maybe miles too, doctor strange, scarlet witch. Well we think they are ruining the multiverse as of right now but what Loki is doing right now should be stopping them from causing a lot of harm. So mile’s problems can be fixed, Peter’s problems, stranges problems too if you really think deep about their predicament. Especially Spider-Man and miles. Only thing stopping them from their goal is the risk of causing damage to the multiverse.
After the funeral in end game… Rhodes has on his mechanical leg braces ever since civil war up to the funeral …. Then in captain America and the winter soldier tv show he does not wear his mechanical leg braces
I kinda like the Idea that Raava ( the skrull pretending to be him ) actually cares about Tony after being in disguise for many years but then when he died she had to look out for her people
It is said in the show itself that skrulls started replacing people in government ONLY after endgame. Because thats when Fury willingly left them and went to space without a word so they felt betrayed, cause he ran away from his promise. They couldnt blame Fury for being dusted, but him coming back and leaving them by his choice? The show clearly states that this was event that madw Gravik hate Fury
@@kptmaci4979Lotta People Only Hear What They Want Too.. There Was No Motive For Raava To Be Rhodes Before Endgame At All.. They Weren’t Even Mad Then..
There was a pretty big scene in Endgame where Rhodey was kicked out of his legs and couldn’t walk and we see the skull was able to walk without them also he bleed red in the battle of Earth. It would have just made sense if he got replaced right after Endgame
Ngl they kinda fucked up the storyline if they actually continue with the story about rhodeybeing skrull since civil war. It ruins rhodey's whole character tbh
@@johnycraft7665If they really wanted Rhodex to be a Skrulč they very well could have made him be a Skrull from VERY BEGINNING. Atčeast that wouldnt completely destroy his character since civil war
I know they are movies and tv shows but damn! His best friend dead, paralyzed from the waist down, on ice for 10 years. Steve Rogers didn't have to go through half as much. On a positive note Don Cheadle will get to act the F*** out of this role when Armor Wars comes around. That is if the studios ever pay these people a fair salary.
They get paid more for a maximum of a year of work what you will make in your entire life, your wife (or husband) and children all make in their life time.... Actors are well paid
And this is exactly why I haven’t been up to date with the mcu. I’m surprised this went under my radar, but glad it did until now, like, who TF thought of this crap?
In Secret Invasion they confirm that Gravik didn't start his plan until less than a year ago. Aka, Rhodey got replaced recently. Its not a stretch to think the Skrulls didn't want one of their prisoners to have what is essentially bionic legs.
If that's the case it creates so many plot holes and completely ruins his presence in those movies. Tony's death and funeral with the knowledge his friend is an imposter is just bad especially since they clearly didn't plan ahead for this and Rhodey looks to be genuinely grieving. Also he acts out of character in Secret Invasion, he jokingly threatens to put on the suit and bomb a country just because the prime minister rolled his eyes at him during a UN meeting which is just extreme for Tony's friend and sounds unprofessional for the real Colonel James Rhodes. Also Gravik's plan seems to have been set in motion after Nick Fury gave up on helping the Skrulls which would be after Endgame and I don't think he would've planned to replace Rhodes before then.
Rhodey in in like his late 40's he was probably just going to the doctor for a checkup when he got nabbed. Rhodey was definitely still himself during endgame.
I’m hoping Rhodey wearing the hospital gown at the end of secret invasion was just the creators trying to throw us off on when he was abducted, because from falcon and the winter soldier to secret invasion is the only time we’ve seen Rhodey without his leg braces, showing that he was probably abducted after endgame
I think he was replaced after endgame. He was unable to walk without his suit or leg support tech in endgame as well. I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure they needed medical attention after that battle. He cpuld have been replaced then.
I feel like the skrull that impersonated Rhodey would’ve slowly warmed up to the people around him enough at least for him to be saddened by Tony’s death And him defending the planet from thanos likely came from him knowing that thanos would also wipe of half the skrulls in the universe with the rest I always thought Rhodey should’ve showed more reaction to Tony’s death but him being a skrull does explain y his reaction was so minimal
They might’ve intended this to mean he’s been a scroll since Civil War, but they’ll definitely retcon it seeing the reaction it’s gotten and say he was just in a hospital gown
Doesn’t make sense. If rhodey was a skrull in both avengers movies, he would used his powers to stop Thanos and rally the other skrulls to fight cuz eliminating half of all life in the universe and then destroying it into Thanos’s own mind is a wake up call to use your powers to fight for your life
Bro how can a skrull bleed red and and the suit Tony built for him can only be worn by real Rhodey and don't you think they couldn't have taken leg braces to make it look real , like skrulls don't fully become a person they imitate one , second if Rhodey was a skrull Nick furt would have already killed him, as he found out in like 5 mins in secret invasion, so it's not possible he could have been a skrull in endgame
Skrulls bleed blue we see Rhodey bleed red blood multiple times even in the battle of earth he was not a skrull they didnt plan this phase they just decided to retcon it to move the plot along which leaves enormous plot holes. The gown has also been debunked he wears white gowns during his treatment and he was rescued wearing a blue one.
they bleed red until they transform back to their original form...they can copy every detail of the form they take... do some research yourself...i might be wrong tho
@@AKASHECHOPHY uhm no they don't lmfao even in the show they bleed blue even when the Brit lady was torturing a skrull his blood was blue either you incredibly slow or you just wanna rationize some of the bs plot lines the series left out
after reading literally 95% of comments , please go and watch the secret invasion web series there rhodey was released from captivation of the skrulls .
The real rhody was in infinity war and endgame bc he had his leg braces and could not get up to save rocket during the flood ,now the skrull rhody is say happen around the beginning of falcon and winter soldier
Yes that could be possible but some other factors to consider are maybe when he struggled to walk after his surgery. But it would make sense, in Secret Invasion, he was walking without any mechanism to support in legs.
New Rockstars made a good point that it could of been after end game, he could of went in for an Operation to fix his legs which is when they swapped. So the skulls removed his leg braces for going into the containment pod. Which also explains why the new captain America asked about his legs in the deleted scene for falcon and the winter soldier
remember how in one of the captain america movies, one of the pictures you see of him with the taxi door, is directly connected with someone taking a picture of him from the same angle?
100% feels like a retcon. They obviously didn't have this predictable reveal planned for years and even in SI, Rhodey was acting a bit strange and offish to fury etc but in endgame he was completely in character, cracking jokes n everything
I think it was between civil war and infinity war because he wasn’t wearing the leg brace. In endgame he didn’t cry at all so most definitely he’s a skrull. Confused how he was bleeding in endgame.
I’m wondering if a skrull such as Talos (or maybe Talos’s wife) took over for Rhodey between Civil War and through Endgame. Then for some reason that Rhodey was replaced with Rava after Endgame. This could mean that people like Tony Stark and Nick Fury could have known that Rhodey was a skrull since Civil War (maybe they intentionally put the real Rhodey into that stasis machine so they could keep him alive). This would also account for most of Rhodey’s character growth in endgame and specifically his moment with Tony at the end. Thoughts?
I think it was just a overlooked plot hole. For example, Everett K. Ross was replaced by a Skrull, but how were they able to find him since at the end of Wakanda Forever he went into hiding with Okoye?
When Rocket asked 'who are not been to space before', Rhodey didn't raised the hand soon like Cap & Nat... And he also said 'he didn't done anything good in his life' to Nebula... But he is not been a part of the girls army joined to help Carol to reach the quantum tunnel... 🤣🤣🤣
If anything, I feel like post IW or EndGame makes more sense. Because I feel like after the Snap in IW or after people coming back after EndGame, that’s the perfect time to start implanting agents in places of power. During all that chaos. Especially on a larger scale.
Given the Lunacy in Disney, it feels like a retcon. A retcon that they planned since the scene of Rhody staring into bathroom mirror before its transitions into a skrull wiping away the condensation.
I would think Rhodes would HATE the slurps after this finding out what they did to him and that Tony died and had a funeral and that imposter was there standing in his place. Interesting arc for Rhodes down the road
Rhodey did suffer some injuries during the endgame too. So Rhodey in a hospital gown could mean he was abducted after the endgame. Skrulls weren't a problem during the Civil War. Gravik and some other Skrulls became bad sometime after the endgame because immediately after the endgame fury used Skulls' team led by Gravik to harvest the Avengers' DNA. If Gravik was bad during that time he would stolen the Harvest during that time. So that means Rhodey was swapped after the endgame not before.
Nope. After Endgame. No way a Skrull has been hanging around since 2016. Rhodey was consistently portrayed through Endgame and only started acting out of character in Secret Invasion.
So one...I haven't seen secret war so I could be wrong. But I know the director really didn't say it's cannon, just what he believes. I don't want it to be true but think about it... that skrull probably bonded with the avengers. And I think that's a neat concept
but that also means when Captain America and co turned up at Avengers campus in Infinity War looking for help it was Skrull Rhodey who stood up to the General for them
Thanks Marvel Studios! i hate it. But let's be honest - Endgame was a pretty much perfect way to bookend the first 3 MCU phases. After that, it's been an absolute barrage of MCU content(a lot of it streaming series) & there's been way more misses than hits imo. i was a big fan of what the MCU did over the first 3 phases & enjoyed following the shared universe they'd built. The amount of a-list stars, all the crossover, & the planned out arc by Fiege was truly something unaccomplished in cinema previously. But i simply had to give up on the MCU not long after Endgame. i just can't keep up with what feels like never ending formulaic mass produced fast food entertainment. It's kinda like... i love a good cheeseburger, fries, & a shake but i don't wanna have to eat a cheeseburger, fries, & a shake for every meal all year long. It's time for Marvel to scale it back a bit, focus on quality rather than quantity.
It’s been confirmed that the skull swap took place between end game and the Falcon and the winter soldier show. They didn’t want anything this major from this saga overlapping with the previous
In Endgame Nebula said something along the lines of "look out Rhodey, there's an idiot in the landing zone". Then he sees Scott and says "What's up regular-sized man?" almost like he remembers the fight at the airport and is like playfully squaring up to him. Like "oh look who's not big anymore". He wasn't a Skrull in Endgame unless they're suggesting he also was in Civil War.
Also the only reason the skrull Rhodey helped the avengers in infinity war and endgame is because Thanos would’ve wiped out half of the skrulls because they’re already divided and small in numbers
Bro they couldn't have planned for Rhodey to be a Skrull all that time. Movie studios are concerned with one script at a time. So since Captain America CW. The actor played the actual Colonel Rhodes. Secret Invasion producers just couldn't come up with anything better, which given the fact that this show was co-produced by Samuel L. Jackson is totally fine. We all have limits.
Hi I have a question that if Rhodey was a skrull after civil war how he is abled to identify antman in endgame by saying “what's up regular size man” after he landed in Avengers facility on the time of Avengers reunion if he was skrull after civil war how the skrull knows about antman since antman appeared in endgame after civil war airport fight(except antman and the wasp movie)
The Skrulls have a way of absorbing the original person's memories as we saw in the series. But in any case, him being taken in Civil War makes no sense anyway.
That is impossible, the bad guy in Secret Invasion was still under Nick Fury after the events of Endgame, cleaning up their DNA after the battle. There would be no need to replace important people back then because the secret invasion hasn't started. It's during Falcon & Winter Soldier that the invasion most likely had already begun and that Rhodes was replaced. That being said, Secret Invasion clearly wanted to allude that he was replaced in Civil War which only showcases the incompetent writing that the show has only for a "clever twist". (Fun fact: When asked when Rhodes got replaced, the shows director said that they weren't sure and that fans must keep guessing because that's fun, but like... isn't that his job to reveal?)
That’s it. They did the impossible. They’re destroying both Infinity War and Endgame.
You’re right, out of every character in Infinity War and Endgame, you think that it is ruined because of one character
I’m joking, I kinda agree with you how Rhodey developed his character only to be an alien
But Rhodey got captured after Endgame so it isn’t that bad
till now we don,t know is it after civil war or post endgame I hope it is after endgame if not it won,t be good and I am pretty sure fans might not like it so i hope marvel reveal that it is after the events of endgame.
@@azeemabrar9252after Endgame. The blood is a give away
Id love to see a War Machine film that delves into Rhodey's emotional turmoil realizing he wasn't there when his best friend needed him the most. This could create a fantastic film that isn't just another superhero film and be also a very human film. Kinda like the Black Panther films which is why they are among the best, if not the best, Marvel films. Him visoting Tony at his grace a few times. Feeling more inadequate and having to not fully overcoming it yet, but able to move forward and begin to overcome the loss of so much time and his best friend as well as the loss of Black Widow, who he also remembers. And no, not a show, a film. You can do it all justice in a single film. Just bring back those who worked on Civil War and Black Panther to make this film. But it'll never happen. Poof
If Rhodey is confirmed to be replaced with a scrull in Infinity War and Endgame, it will be a huge middle finger from authors to his role in these big events
Plus, it means there was a Skrull on Thanos' empty retirement planet... so Secret Invasion's entire premise is f**ked
@@chill_notion I don't understand the importance of that can you explain?
@barbodx9957 the premise of SI hinged on Nick Fury (and Carol Danvers) not being able to find a world for the Skrulls to make their new home. In Endgame, Danvers reconned "the garden" (as Nebula called it) and found it completely unpopulated except for Thanos himself. It would have been perfect for the Skrulls, and Skrull Rhodey was there to see it for herself.
@@chill_notion ooooh yeah I saw one review where they mentioned that. I didn't watch the show cause apparently it's a waste of time
@@barbodx9957 good call
It’s definitely one giant retcon
Yeah you don’t pay attention when Tony died the fake road he didn’t even cry or act sad he just looked around
@@S_Scalingreally? That's the evidence? Kind of sounds like grasping at the straws
@@S_Scalingtypical MCU fan
@@S_Scalingnpc
@@S_ScalingRhodes was in the military, he has seen and lost friends before Tony, he can endure and control his emotions.
Damn so the Killing baby Thanos joke hits differently
😂😂😂😂
That skeull was mad
Best fockin comment ever 😂
That was the real Rhodey 😅
Green pointy eared alien was planning to kill a purple alien 😂
Man this is the black hole of the plot holes
😂
They just threw that in😂
Yea there are skrulls everywhere at MCU's earth and literally everyone is a skrull.
yes as talos said . millions . all of 'em are here on earth @@samarthruhella5906
How is this a plot hole
We need to all pretend like this just didn’t happen. Like Eternals. And Inhumans.
wait there is a Marvel movie called Inhumanes?
@@barbatos673 it didn't happen
@@uncensored393 personally I liked Quantumania
@@ddemons4730 they made the big bad look like a big bitch - he's supposed to be the next Thanos, the one we need the Avengers to group up and fight in some epic war after the humiliation of our team as they try to take him solo.
Instead, they gave us some guy who couldn't beat a weakened Ant-Man.
@@uncensored393 I understand most, but the fact Wakanda Forever is on there and The Dark World isn't just feels like blasphemy
He was bleeding red in Endgame
Ross was bleeding red until he turned into a skrull
@@yoda3341ah yes just like other skrulls who bled red then turned violet in just seconds in the series right?
Ever here of a retcon
@@Theenderslayer69ttvever here of shitty writing
@@Theenderslayer69ttvwhat’s that
This retcon needs to be retconned immediately!
It’s funny because it’s not even a retcon it’s just a straight up plot hole
And yet the skrulls kept on cutting his hair and shaving his face this whole time...
😂😂😂
They also had a Skrull on Thanos' retirement planet..... so how tf could they not find a new homeworld
@@chill_notionMaybe they wanted some kind of revenge on Humans (& Fury) because they found out about it and Carol obviously knew abt it too, but never told them ?? Well I guess technically Fury was blipped so he didn’t know. But Carol did.
His legs are FOREVER BROKEN. In endgame he almost dies cuz his suit broke and he was crawling cuz of his legs. He even tells rocket to leave. rhodey was ready to die. U think a dam skrull is gonna risk his life in those circumstances to stay being a human with broken back and legs???😂😂😂he’d just use his skrull strength and get tf outta there. As for the gown AGAIN his legs and back are broken. Obviously he has to go in and out of therapy sessions without the braces. He’s a veteran of war that’s the only place and time the Skrulls could capture him without a fight.
That is why we don't treat modern Marvel as cannon, they don't know what they are doing anymore.
W 100%
This is why people are watching Japanese superhero shows like Ultraman and Kamen Rider. Tsuburaya and Toei are stomping Marvel and DC
Its for money. They are using their fame to get more money. Then if they lose the fame they go home with a pile of money on their banks
@@5specI agree so much with that. They do justice to their legacy and make interesting shows.
Haha what an innovative idea! Love the part where we retcon two movies worth of character establishment to have a reveal that means nothing! Please do more of that!
Somebody get Rhodey a cheeseburger
Happy, where you at?
hhhmm this IS a tasy burguer
That would mean he’s been one for ten years which is a bit much. I hope the real Rhodey was in Endgame because it’s my favourite movie. But let’s hope Armour Wars makes this clearer and easier to accept.
In secret invasion the skrulls invaded a lot longer
Hint : skrull blood is green.
Now watch endgame
@@lsi597 ...... Retcon dude
That was definitely Rhodey in Endgame no doubt, so Im guessing since then
Yes he is cause he was really taken right after endgame or spiderman no way home.
The real Rhodey made the joke
Thor: Do you know what’s coursing through my veins rn
Rhodey: Cheez-it’s?
The real Rhodey has a sense of humor like that
I agree
Plus, he still had a limp, if I remember correctly, skrull rohdey didn’t limp at all
Rhodey was switched before Tony Stark’s funeral. The suit of armor is not available because the government has it.
After endgame is another universe, nothing counts
Bro I’ve had this theory ever since Loki. Question is, when in the timeline did Loki give everyone free will? I’m pretty sure everything after endgame has strayed away from the main timeline. Which is why Spider-Man messing up the multiverse, maybe miles too, doctor strange, scarlet witch. Well we think they are ruining the multiverse as of right now but what Loki is doing right now should be stopping them from causing a lot of harm. So mile’s problems can be fixed, Peter’s problems, stranges problems too if you really think deep about their predicament. Especially Spider-Man and miles. Only thing stopping them from their goal is the risk of causing damage to the multiverse.
@@jrhulkyolo2105during or right after endgame probably
After the funeral in end game… Rhodes has on his mechanical leg braces ever since civil war up to the funeral …. Then in captain America and the winter soldier tv show he does not wear his mechanical leg braces
Yes we’ve established that. Your comment adds nothing
That means the Rhodey that was talking to Sam in TFATWS is a Skrull. Idk about endgame, but it was definitely Raava
@@aqil1141 Or his leg could've just healed like normal legs do...
@@Lidoe no we literally saw in secret invasion that Rhodey’s legs still haven’t healed
@@LidoeIt’s Not His Legs That Needed To Geal Stupid.! He Damaged His Spine That Doesn’t Just Heal.. Smh..
It sure looks that way but I'm hoping the Skrull switcheroo happened Post-Endgame
I kinda like the Idea that Raava ( the skrull pretending to be him ) actually cares about Tony after being in disguise for many years but then when he died she had to look out for her people
It is said in the show itself that skrulls started replacing people in government ONLY after endgame. Because thats when Fury willingly left them and went to space without a word so they felt betrayed, cause he ran away from his promise. They couldnt blame Fury for being dusted, but him coming back and leaving them by his choice? The show clearly states that this was event that madw Gravik hate Fury
me too
@@kptmaci4979Lotta People Only Hear What They Want Too.. There Was No Motive For Raava To Be Rhodes Before Endgame At All.. They Weren’t Even Mad Then..
@@darthsidious1158didn’t think that a Sith Lord would agree
There was a pretty big scene in Endgame where Rhodey was kicked out of his legs and couldn’t walk and we see the skull was able to walk without them also he bleed red in the battle of Earth. It would have just made sense if he got replaced right after Endgame
Personally, I think it would have made more sense to have the switch happen between Iron-man 1&2. He showed up with a new face god-damn it
In case you didn’t know Endgame is the only answer 😂
Wdym
@@aqil1141think they're saying it only makes sense if Rhodey was replaced after Endgame
@@navonmyhand7999 that’s true. Most people think Gravik started his thing after the blip
Ngl they kinda fucked up the storyline if they actually continue with the story about rhodeybeing skrull since civil war. It ruins rhodey's whole character tbh
@@johnycraft7665If they really wanted Rhodex to be a Skrulč they very well could have made him be a Skrull from VERY BEGINNING. Atčeast that wouldnt completely destroy his character since civil war
I know they are movies and tv shows but damn! His best friend dead, paralyzed from the waist down, on ice for 10 years.
Steve Rogers didn't have to go through half as much.
On a positive note Don Cheadle will get to act the F*** out of this role when Armor Wars comes around.
That is if the studios ever pay these people a fair salary.
They get paid more for a maximum of a year of work what you will make in your entire life, your wife (or husband) and children all make in their life time.... Actors are well paid
And this is exactly why I haven’t been up to date with the mcu.
I’m surprised this went under my radar, but glad it did until now, like, who TF thought of this crap?
He hasn’t been a Skrull since civil war…the skrulls didn’t start taking over until Fury decided to leave for sword and not come back.
In Secret Invasion they confirm that Gravik didn't start his plan until less than a year ago.
Aka, Rhodey got replaced recently.
Its not a stretch to think the Skrulls didn't want one of their prisoners to have what is essentially bionic legs.
If that's the case it creates so many plot holes and completely ruins his presence in those movies. Tony's death and funeral with the knowledge his friend is an imposter is just bad especially since they clearly didn't plan ahead for this and Rhodey looks to be genuinely grieving.
Also he acts out of character in Secret Invasion, he jokingly threatens to put on the suit and bomb a country just because the prime minister rolled his eyes at him during a UN meeting which is just extreme for Tony's friend and sounds unprofessional for the real Colonel James Rhodes.
Also Gravik's plan seems to have been set in motion after Nick Fury gave up on helping the Skrulls which would be after Endgame and I don't think he would've planned to replace Rhodes before then.
The real switcheroo happened to all the MCU leadership, writers and others involved in phase 4
He had leg braces in endgame, he was taken after the funereal. No leg braces = skrull.
makes sense to me
Rhodey in in like his late 40's he was probably just going to the doctor for a checkup when he got nabbed. Rhodey was definitely still himself during endgame.
In Endgame, he briefly mentioned his idea for the Avengers to go back in time to kill baby Thanos. Sounds pretty dark, even for a war veteran.
Its gotta be a retcon. Hell this would throw away thatvone little nugget of dialog he and nebula had in end game
I’m hoping Rhodey wearing the hospital gown at the end of secret invasion was just the creators trying to throw us off on when he was abducted, because from falcon and the winter soldier to secret invasion is the only time we’ve seen Rhodey without his leg braces, showing that he was probably abducted after endgame
so you’re telling me both rhodey and nebula were imposters
I wonder if all this is why Armor wars has taken so long because timeline wise it wouldn’t work.
I think he was replaced after endgame. He was unable to walk without his suit or leg support tech in endgame as well. I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure they needed medical attention after that battle. He cpuld have been replaced then.
I feel like the skrull that impersonated Rhodey would’ve slowly warmed up to the people around him enough at least for him to be saddened by Tony’s death
And him defending the planet from thanos likely came from him knowing that thanos would also wipe of half the skrulls in the universe with the rest
I always thought Rhodey should’ve showed more reaction to Tony’s death but him being a skrull does explain y his reaction was so minimal
They might’ve intended this to mean he’s been a scroll since Civil War, but they’ll definitely retcon it seeing the reaction it’s gotten and say he was just in a hospital gown
Doesn’t make sense. If rhodey was a skrull in both avengers movies, he would used his powers to stop Thanos and rally the other skrulls to fight cuz eliminating half of all life in the universe and then destroying it into Thanos’s own mind is a wake up call to use your powers to fight for your life
Now the line “And where the hell have you been” from Rhodey to Captain Marvel in endgame makes more sense
No it doesn’t, stop trying to cope
Yeah nah it doesnt at all
I've been looking tor this comment
Makes less sense beause captain marvel says "there are other planets" and rhodey backs down, but he shouldn't, skrulls should hate her more than fury
Bro how can a skrull bleed red and and the suit Tony built for him can only be worn by real Rhodey and don't you think they couldn't have taken leg braces to make it look real , like skrulls don't fully become a person they imitate one , second if Rhodey was a skrull Nick furt would have already killed him, as he found out in like 5 mins in secret invasion, so it's not possible he could have been a skrull in endgame
They have retconed (when they actually never confirmed anything) this to between Endgame and Falcon & Winter Sodier via Blu-Ray release.
Skrulls bleed blue we see Rhodey bleed red blood multiple times even in the battle of earth he was not a skrull they didnt plan this phase they just decided to retcon it to move the plot along which leaves enormous plot holes. The gown has also been debunked he wears white gowns during his treatment and he was rescued wearing a blue one.
they bleed red until they transform back to their original form...they can copy every detail of the form they take... do some research yourself...i might be wrong tho
@@AKASHECHOPHY uhm no they don't lmfao even in the show they bleed blue even when the Brit lady was torturing a skrull his blood was blue either you incredibly slow or you just wanna rationize some of the bs plot lines the series left out
@@AKASHECHOPHYwhen skrull Rodey got shot in the head in human form it was purple not red
@hu45stuff24 because he died. Skrulls bleed red until they suffer a mortal injury.
At least the skrull was on their side and not thanos, for the most part
after reading literally 95% of comments , please go and watch the secret invasion web series there rhodey was released from captivation of the skrulls .
What about *Chiwetel Ejiofor* in Venom 3 ?
He is already in Doctor Strange series!
He was wearing braces in IW and EG. Armour Wars will surely clear it for us all 👍🏾
Not going to see it
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Because people have the right to express opinions. You're not supposed to only agree on everything. Get rid of this cult mentality
@@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225Lmfao it was just corny chill out
The real rhody was in infinity war and endgame bc he had his leg braces and could not get up to save rocket during the flood ,now the skrull rhody is say happen around the beginning of falcon and winter soldier
Yes that could be possible but some other factors to consider are maybe when he struggled to walk after his surgery. But it would make sense, in Secret Invasion, he was walking without any mechanism to support in legs.
New Rockstars made a good point that it could of been after end game, he could of went in for an Operation to fix his legs which is when they swapped. So the skulls removed his leg braces for going into the containment pod. Which also explains why the new captain America asked about his legs in the deleted scene for falcon and the winter soldier
remember how in one of the captain america movies, one of the pictures you see of him with the taxi door, is directly connected with someone taking a picture of him from the same angle?
So did all who got capture during the switch get snap as well?
100% feels like a retcon. They obviously didn't have this predictable reveal planned for years and even in SI, Rhodey was acting a bit strange and offish to fury etc but in endgame he was completely in character, cracking jokes n everything
Omg they ruined all the serie with all that twists
I thought he was skrull from the trailer, I can never imagine Rhodey giving sass to Nick Fury of all people
I think it was between civil war and infinity war because he wasn’t wearing the leg brace. In endgame he didn’t cry at all so most definitely he’s a skrull. Confused how he was bleeding in endgame.
I’m wondering if a skrull such as Talos (or maybe Talos’s wife) took over for Rhodey between Civil War and through Endgame. Then for some reason that Rhodey was replaced with Rava after Endgame. This could mean that people like Tony Stark and Nick Fury could have known that Rhodey was a skrull since Civil War (maybe they intentionally put the real Rhodey into that stasis machine so they could keep him alive). This would also account for most of Rhodey’s character growth in endgame and specifically his moment with Tony at the end. Thoughts?
ok how did they pee and poop al this time if skrulls had held them captured this way?
Imagine hes being captive since Iron Man 1 and the og actor comes back 💀
Wouldn’t he have had a beard if he was gone that long. Unless the skrulls shaved his face every week.
When he said heartbreaking. My youtube popped up, "Time for a break" 😅
He’s wearing the bionic legs in Infinity war and endgame..
I think it was just a overlooked plot hole. For example, Everett K. Ross was replaced by a Skrull, but how were they able to find him since at the end of Wakanda Forever he went into hiding with Okoye?
Can we all forget that Secret invasion ever happened
When Rocket asked 'who are not been to space before', Rhodey didn't raised the hand soon like Cap & Nat... And he also said 'he didn't done anything good in his life' to Nebula... But he is not been a part of the girls army joined to help Carol to reach the quantum tunnel... 🤣🤣🤣
If anything, I feel like post IW or EndGame makes more sense. Because I feel like after the Snap in IW or after people coming back after EndGame, that’s the perfect time to start implanting agents in places of power. During all that chaos. Especially on a larger scale.
That explains the nebula and Rhodey scene in endgame when neb says "i wasnt always like this" and Rhodey says "me neither"
Nope. He got taken sometime before Falcon and Winter Soldier. You can tell because Rhodey doesn’t have his braces at Cap’s memorial.
Given the Lunacy in Disney, it feels like a retcon. A retcon that they planned since the scene of Rhody staring into bathroom mirror before its transitions into a skrull wiping away the condensation.
Imagine they switched him during iron man 2 and terrence howard walks out the pod 😂
I think he was changed out after endgame or something because his blood was red and the skrulls could have just removed the brace when they took him.
I would think Rhodes would HATE the slurps after this finding out what they did to him and that Tony died and had a funeral and that imposter was there standing in his place. Interesting arc for Rhodes down the road
According to the MCU wiki, Rhodey was replaced by Raava in the beginning of the show. Not in Civil War.
Rhodey did suffer some injuries during the endgame too. So Rhodey in a hospital gown could mean he was abducted after the endgame. Skrulls weren't a problem during the Civil War. Gravik and some other Skrulls became bad sometime after the endgame because immediately after the endgame fury used Skulls' team led by Gravik to harvest the Avengers' DNA. If Gravik was bad during that time he would stolen the Harvest during that time. So that means Rhodey was swapped after the endgame not before.
Nope. After Endgame. No way a Skrull has been hanging around since 2016. Rhodey was consistently portrayed through Endgame and only started acting out of character in Secret Invasion.
Wow so when he finds out Tony died its gonna really tear him apart considering him being Tony's best friend
This plots so crazy not even the producers know
You'd think a Skrull would mention the planet Thanos was on to the others so they could migrate there
So one...I haven't seen secret war so I could be wrong. But I know the director really didn't say it's cannon, just what he believes.
I don't want it to be true but think about it... that skrull probably bonded with the avengers. And I think that's a neat concept
but that also means when Captain America and co turned up at Avengers campus in Infinity War looking for help it was Skrull Rhodey who stood up to the General for them
Disney has gone insane.
Doesn't make sense, the skrulls are still sided with fury at that time
He didn’t seem to heartbroken when he saw Tony die so that sort proves it more
Thanks Marvel Studios!
i hate it.
But let's be honest - Endgame was a pretty much perfect way to bookend the first 3 MCU phases. After that, it's been an absolute barrage of MCU content(a lot of it streaming series) & there's been way more misses than hits imo.
i was a big fan of what the MCU did over the first 3 phases & enjoyed following the shared universe they'd built. The amount of a-list stars, all the crossover, & the planned out arc by Fiege was truly something unaccomplished in cinema previously. But i simply had to give up on the MCU not long after Endgame. i just can't keep up with what feels like never ending formulaic mass produced fast food entertainment. It's kinda like... i love a good cheeseburger, fries, & a shake but i don't wanna have to eat a cheeseburger, fries, & a shake for every meal all year long. It's time for Marvel to scale it back a bit, focus on quality rather than quantity.
It is a giant retcon by Marvel
It’s been confirmed that the skull swap took place between end game and the Falcon and the winter soldier show. They didn’t want anything this major from this saga overlapping with the previous
He looks completely different from Iron Man 1 😂😂😂😂😂 maybe he’s been a Skrull since then
I wondered why when Natasha was talking to the teams holograms Carol looked at Rhodey and said be careful or stay safe or somethin. Hmm
Giant sized after thought retcon!
This revelation legit pissed me off beyond comprehension.
Another big question :
In black panther 2, was ross real or skrull?
That could have been a good plot for armour wars,Real Rhodey coping up with the loss of tony while dealing with people stealing stark industry weapons
In Endgame Nebula said something along the lines of "look out Rhodey, there's an idiot in the landing zone". Then he sees Scott and says "What's up regular-sized man?" almost like he remembers the fight at the airport and is like playfully squaring up to him. Like "oh look who's not big anymore". He wasn't a Skrull in Endgame unless they're suggesting he also was in Civil War.
This is why I just like to think that the real story ended at endgame
Damn that’s scary
They need to make a show for Rhodes, because it’s heartbreaking to know that he didn’t see his friends sacrifice
Also the only reason the skrull Rhodey helped the avengers in infinity war and endgame is because Thanos would’ve wiped out half of the skrulls because they’re already divided and small in numbers
Bro they couldn't have planned for Rhodey to be a Skrull all that time.
Movie studios are concerned with one script at a time.
So since Captain America CW.
The actor played the actual Colonel Rhodes.
Secret Invasion producers just couldn't come up with anything better, which given the fact that this show was co-produced by Samuel L. Jackson is totally fine.
We all have limits.
Hi I have a question that if Rhodey was a skrull after civil war how he is abled to identify antman in endgame by saying “what's up regular size man” after he landed in Avengers facility on the time of Avengers reunion if he was skrull after civil war how the skrull knows about antman since antman appeared in endgame after civil war airport fight(except antman and the wasp movie)
The Skrulls have a way of absorbing the original person's memories as we saw in the series. But in any case, him being taken in Civil War makes no sense anyway.
That is impossible, the bad guy in Secret Invasion was still under Nick Fury after the events of Endgame, cleaning up their DNA after the battle. There would be no need to replace important people back then because the secret invasion hasn't started. It's during Falcon & Winter Soldier that the invasion most likely had already begun and that Rhodes was replaced. That being said, Secret Invasion clearly wanted to allude that he was replaced in Civil War which only showcases the incompetent writing that the show has only for a "clever twist". (Fun fact: When asked when Rhodes got replaced, the shows director said that they weren't sure and that fans must keep guessing because that's fun, but like... isn't that his job to reveal?)
just poor writing...he was already perfect during civil war til end game but they decided to ruin him
I'm not convinced that rhodey was held prisoner since civil war.