Here's my take on this. The secondary doesn't look like more than 300 winding's. The spark gap was about 2,5mm (1cm = ca 15kV) which gives ca 3750 volts. You live in Thailand (according to your "about" page) which uses 230v mains. If we take the secondary voltage 3750v divided by 230v we get 16. There are 16 times more windings on the secondary than the primary. Now take the 16 turns on the primary times 16 and we get 256 turns on the secondary. That number looks much more reasonable to the result you're getting. Btw if you want to go from 3,7v to 50kV, you'd need about 13513 times MORE winding's on the secondary. 16*13513 = 216208 turns!!
This comment makes no sense on so many levels 1. The secondary is between 800 and 1600 turns 2. The arc gap is around 5 mm and the breakdown voltage of air is ~2-3kV per mm making this circuit 10-20kV depending on humidity and air pressure and the arc gap 3. You then talked about *mains ac* for some reason when the *inverter* circuit runs off 3-7volts *DC* 4. You then used your incorrectly calculated 3750v to assume that the guy is plugging this into the wall and that there is only a 16 turn ratio 5. By the way plugging this into your wall would melt the wires and trip the breaker 6. These basic flyback inverter oscillators generally have a turn ratio of 200-400 with primaries of 5-20 turns and secondaries of 800-2000 turns. They use the high frequency produced through the oscillations of the primary and the feedback coil to automatically adjust themselves close to resonance frequency, boosting the strength significantly. They do not work like traditional iron core 60 hertz wall adaptors and do not need huge turn ratios in the tens of thousands. I don’t know why I wasted my time writing this comment instead of wasting my time playing video games like most other kids would during summer but it kinda pissed me off and I had to inform you.
@@Ferraday ElectroBoom on youtube shows that you need about 15kV to get a spark between a 1cm gap. I judged that the spark was created about 2,5mm between the 2 wires. Take ~15kV * 0,25cm and you get 3750 volts across 2,5mm. I'm aware that humidity changes the result, but here's a video where he tests the voltage gap: ruclips.net/video/DOMs7mYm_zs/видео.htmlm17s . To me it doesn't look like the secondary side has 800-1600 turns, so i think that's where we don't agree.
300 windings? There's a lot more than that. There are multiple layers seperated by layers of tape. This circuit is run off of a DC supply. Most likely 9-12 volts and there is inductive spiking on the primary. Its a high powered joule thief circuit.
Amazingly short on details! You should try 2 transistors and put the resistor in the center leg to positive supply. Then add a multiplier to the output. That would be real fun. 😎
This uses a N-Channel Power Mosfet. Pinout 1=Gate 2=Drain 3=Source. With Flyback Transformer Center-Tapped.. Nice video. But Put up a Schematic. It's always nice
The oscillator works well but if you change transformer design to achieve greater coupling factor (which is quite possible); out put rises dramatically.
How wide of a arc will this inverter produce ?? Would you be able to make an inverter that makes a dozen one inch arc ???? What would that take and would you need a dozen transistors ??? Thanks
Я такой маленький собрал.тестирую лампы от матриц.очень удобно.питание беру от одной батарейки. Транзисторы пробовал. 13003 13005 13009 d209l. На всех работает.
You can use any general purpose BJT that has a reasonably high switching frequency and can carry some current. I made one of these circuits to drive an 8 stage Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier. The transistor I used was FJP13007H2TU from Digi-Key. It's a 400V, 8A device. The primary current is pulsed on this circuit (in the tens of kilohertz) but it is fairly high so make sure the transistor you use can handle some decent collector current.
Ooh what a "plasma"! :-D For a home made transformer it's not so bad (if considering this type of driver) but it's definitely not more than 10KV. (With too low energy to create a real plasma).
The "Air-Gap" between the Ferrite core used in CRT's(Flyback Transformer) is important to not remove.. If so, you should make a new one. that's what stores the energy
50K volts is a big call, be aware the approx. test for voltage is that for every 10mm spark gap that can be maintained is representing around 10,000 volts of the sparky stuff, if your device can maintain a 30mm gap it's producing approx. 30,00 volts and so on
This is not 50 kilovolts - if it were, the arc could jump at least 15 millimetres (probably more like 17), and it clearly can't - when you move the wires a little further apart, it completely stops. You might have about 15 kilovolts here, possibly 20, but not much more, unless I'm vastly underestimating the scale. But more to the point, that transistor really isn't going to be happy in this setup: It should have a fast recovery diode (such as a Schottky rectifier) as well as the resistor between the base and the transformer feedback winding. If you plan on running the circuit for more than a few seconds at a time, give it a decent heatsink. Otherwise it will overheat and die within a few minutes, especially if you're driving this from lithium batteries, since they can drive a significant amount of current through a simple inverter circuit like this. The soldering isn't bad here, though you would find it easier to join the leads cleanly if you apply a little rosin flux to them first, even if the solder you use has a flux core. Putting some heat-shrink tube around the joints also wouldn't hurt for an open setup like this, if you're not going to mount components to a piece of circuit board.
Ahmt Ahmet this circuit oscillates at the kilohertz level and using iron as a core makes it extremely ineffective above 100 hertz to the point where it probably won’t even oscillate
@@FluorescentApe Yes, but it depends on the air moisture. In very dry conditions (under 40% humidity) it's about 15 kV/cm, but in normal conditions like 50-60% air humidity, it gets 10 or less kV/cm. But anyway, the kid claimed it was 50 kV whiich is nonsense, considering the sparks couldn't keep up a distance of 1 cm.
Jestem technik mechaniki mnie uczono ze 1mm iskry to 1kwolt, na filmiku pokazujesz łuk 1cm... naucz sie przeliczac. Przekładki tez maja znaczenie przy nawijaniu trafo
the arc starts at about 0.2 inch but sustains up to about 0.5". air breakdown starts in this circuit at about 0.2 inch. so that is the number to use. Once it starts the air is ionized and conducts more readily so it sustains itself in a bigger gap. www.cirris.com/learning-center/calculators/50-high-voltage-arc-gap-calculator? the spark starts at about about 0.2 inch. Check .005 inch/1KV = 40KV hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/AliceHong.shtml "dielectric breakdown, occurs in air at an electric field strength of about Emax = 3 × 106 V/m."" = 0.2 * 2.54/100*1e6 = 5000 Volts. So two websites give different results for dielectroc breakdown so the voltage is somewhere in between.
Un poco más arriba alguien describe que el flyback secundario tiene 1000 vueltas y el primario 12 vueltas. Utube no me deja copiarlo . Por favor buscalo en los comentarios.saludos.
Boa tarde Top Tech, por gentileza gostaria de saber quais componentes foram utilizados neste projeto, Transistor e Resistor qual o Watts, e os Fios Esmaltados quais as Bitolas nas Bobinas é Quantas Voltas foram Realizadas no Carretel do 50kV... Desde já grato... Fico no aguardo.
All of You guys are bad Englich. No just kidding. You can check it by either a gap, or using a hv probe with high frequency DMM (if anything like this exists) or a digital oscilloscope. The invertor is here to create high frequency signal, not sure but most likely DC signal to induce voltage into the secondary coil.
Super chity video. The background noise is most annoying. Should have narration of what was going on during assembly and describe the components as you went along.
Da igual el número de espiras de la bobina, el tipo de transistor, el valor de la resistencia y el voltaje de entrada? Es por que voy a usar una bobina de muchas espiras, un transistor BR D882 P U59 y una pila de 9 v
2n3055 transistor, 47 Ohm 2 watt resistor, tv flyback transformer core, 1000 turns enameled 50 AWG insulated between layers with paper for the secondary and 14 turns 12 AWG magnet wire center tapped for feedback and primary! :)
He definitly powers the tronsformer with an electric lighter, because you only hear the transformer making sounds when it is arcing. If it was permenatly powered trought a 3.7V battery you would hear a permenent transformer sound.
Here's my take on this. The secondary doesn't look like more than 300 winding's. The spark gap was about 2,5mm (1cm = ca 15kV) which gives ca 3750 volts. You live in Thailand (according to your "about" page) which uses 230v mains. If we take the secondary voltage 3750v divided by 230v we get 16. There are 16 times more windings on the secondary than the primary. Now take the 16 turns on the primary times 16 and we get 256 turns on the secondary. That number looks much more reasonable to the result you're getting.
Btw if you want to go from 3,7v to 50kV, you'd need about 13513 times MORE winding's on the secondary. 16*13513 = 216208 turns!!
This comment makes no sense on so many levels
1. The secondary is between 800 and 1600 turns
2. The arc gap is around 5 mm and the breakdown voltage of air is ~2-3kV per mm making this circuit 10-20kV depending on humidity and air pressure and the arc gap
3. You then talked about *mains ac* for some reason when the *inverter* circuit runs off 3-7volts *DC*
4. You then used your incorrectly calculated 3750v to assume that the guy is plugging this into the wall and that there is only a 16 turn ratio
5. By the way plugging this into your wall would melt the wires and trip the breaker
6. These basic flyback inverter oscillators generally have a turn ratio of 200-400 with primaries of 5-20 turns and secondaries of 800-2000 turns. They use the high frequency produced through the oscillations of the primary and the feedback coil to automatically adjust themselves close to resonance frequency, boosting the strength significantly. They do not work like traditional iron core 60 hertz wall adaptors and do not need huge turn ratios in the tens of thousands.
I don’t know why I wasted my time writing this comment instead of wasting my time playing video games like most other kids would during summer but it kinda pissed me off and I had to inform you.
@@Ferraday ElectroBoom on youtube shows that you need about 15kV to get a spark between a 1cm gap. I judged that the spark was created about 2,5mm between the 2 wires. Take ~15kV * 0,25cm and you get 3750 volts across 2,5mm. I'm aware that humidity changes the result, but here's a video where he tests the voltage gap: ruclips.net/video/DOMs7mYm_zs/видео.htmlm17s .
To me it doesn't look like the secondary side has 800-1600 turns, so i think that's where we don't agree.
3*10^6 V per meter, it is around 30KV. Not 50kv though.
300 windings? There's a lot more than that. There are multiple layers seperated by layers of tape. This circuit is run off of a DC supply. Most likely 9-12 volts and there is inductive spiking on the primary. Its a high powered joule thief circuit.
Amazingly short on details! You should try 2 transistors and put the resistor in the center leg to positive supply. Then add a multiplier to the output. That would be real fun. 😎
Thank you for your advice.
dear i need more details for using two transistor
@@TopTechDiy anytime. You could even use a correctly chosen inductor. Classic 6V to Kv supply. 😁
Bro can you upload an video how to attached to transistor
@@TopTechDiy bro, can you make a 1000Kv video tutorial, i want to move this to the stun stick, it can also be used for EMP
Cool, but not 50 kilovolts, but 15 for sure. if there were 50 kilovolts, it would be punched. Nice video.
8-10kv
This uses a N-Channel Power Mosfet. Pinout 1=Gate 2=Drain 3=Source. With Flyback Transformer Center-Tapped.. Nice video. But Put up a Schematic. It's always nice
The oscillator works well but if you change transformer design to achieve greater coupling factor (which is quite possible); out put rises dramatically.
Hola dime que transistor o mosfet usaste así como la resistencia. Gracias
A IRF744n
Not 50kv it only 10kv voltage limited across gap!
Edit: ok its somewhere around 1kv
yep
fakeee 50 kw flyback transformer is 30 kw and mutch bigger arcs
5 kv max. 1mm = 1kv
@@ИванПетров-э8у2х it's 3kV/mm
@@endritmyrta7384 900v /mm
How wide of a arc will this inverter produce ?? Would you be able to make an inverter that makes a dozen one inch arc ???? What would that take and would you need a dozen transistors ??? Thanks
Я такой маленький собрал.тестирую лампы от матриц.очень удобно.питание беру от одной батарейки. Транзисторы пробовал. 13003 13005 13009 d209l. На всех работает.
transistor: irfz44n
Thanks for watching.
Probably is better to Use IRLZ44N
You can use any general purpose BJT that has a reasonably high switching frequency and can carry some current. I made one of these circuits to drive an 8 stage Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier. The transistor I used was FJP13007H2TU from Digi-Key. It's a 400V, 8A device. The primary current is pulsed on this circuit (in the tens of kilohertz) but it is fairly high so make sure the transistor you use can handle some decent collector current.
And resistor?
What did you start the coil with? I mean what you held behind the video before it gets current?
Thanks for watching
@@TopTechDiy how many turns in the secondary coil?
andre luiz Most likely the same design a CRT TV Transformer . 🧐🇬🇧🤔👍🏻🤓🤓🤓
Simples e eficaz ! Parabéns !
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...эй чем ты замерял напряжение на выходе??? 50 кв долже пробивать около 5 см...а не 5 мм...
можливо все знімалося у вакуумі...
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лдан пунк мпацем кеур
Возможно выщитал по коэффициенту трансформации
Ooh what a "plasma"! :-D For a home made transformer it's not so bad (if considering this type of driver) but it's definitely not more than 10KV. (With too low energy to create a real plasma).
Does your battery terminals go heat?
Doesn't the z44n mosfet light up when you use a 0 ohm resistor?
lights up
The "Air-Gap" between the Ferrite core used in CRT's(Flyback Transformer) is important to not remove.. If so, you should make a new one. that's what stores the energy
nice work also if I make a big one I can get a good welding plant yes?
Yes, Thank you for watching
@@TopTechDiy love your videos Top Tech keep it coming
Top Tech that gray metal? I was wondering what type of metal is that you make the inverter with don't know the name by chance you know the name?
Wouldn’t have thought so. This is a high voltage low current system, whereas welding machines are mostly high current low voltage.
I just got done building a 1,000,000 volt Tesla arc generator. Great for cleaning the air.
Nice!
DE QUE SIRVE QUE COMPARTAS, SI NO ESPECIFICAS DATOS DE LOS COMPONENTES?
Resistor value?
Is it possible to use any Plasma Arch generate to generate Plasma Vortex using magnet??
50K volts is a big call, be aware the approx. test for voltage is that for every 10mm spark gap that can be maintained is representing around 10,000 volts of the sparky stuff, if your device can maintain a 30mm gap it's producing approx. 30,00 volts and so on
QUE TRANSISTOR USASTE?
This is not 50 kilovolts - if it were, the arc could jump at least 15 millimetres (probably more like 17), and it clearly can't - when you move the wires a little further apart, it completely stops. You might have about 15 kilovolts here, possibly 20, but not much more, unless I'm vastly underestimating the scale.
But more to the point, that transistor really isn't going to be happy in this setup: It should have a fast recovery diode (such as a Schottky rectifier) as well as the resistor between the base and the transformer feedback winding. If you plan on running the circuit for more than a few seconds at a time, give it a decent heatsink. Otherwise it will overheat and die within a few minutes, especially if you're driving this from lithium batteries, since they can drive a significant amount of current through a simple inverter circuit like this.
The soldering isn't bad here, though you would find it easier to join the leads cleanly if you apply a little rosin flux to them first, even if the solder you use has a flux core. Putting some heat-shrink tube around the joints also wouldn't hurt for an open setup like this, if you're not going to mount components to a piece of circuit board.
Bro it's IRFz44 MOSFET.
Yes you need a heatsink for This.
A zener diode at Gate will work for safety.
And yeah the arch's are 6kv 😅
Have you tried doing the circuit with astable multivibrator as an oscillator?
1cm = 30kv
for air (3x10^6 V/meter)
Not everyone knows about 3 kV/mm. You know, and it pleases.
Dentro del embobinado esterior hay otro embobinado?la resistencia Ohm?
Am inlove with the hands XD
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can i use a thick screw or any other iron bar? i can't provide ferro-magnetic core.
Ahmt Ahmet this circuit oscillates at the kilohertz level and using iron as a core makes it extremely ineffective above 100 hertz to the point where it probably won’t even oscillate
Thanks
Can you add the required equipments in the description in details .
... hey than you measured the voltage at the output ??? 50 kv Must punch about 5 cm ... not 5 mm ...
It's actually like 3,3cm. Electroboom showed that it's roughly 15kV/cm. 50 000 / 15 000 = 3,3cm distance for 50kV
@@FluorescentApe Yes, but it depends on the air moisture. In very dry conditions (under 40% humidity) it's about 15 kV/cm, but in normal conditions like 50-60% air humidity, it gets 10 or less kV/cm. But anyway, the kid claimed it was 50 kV whiich is nonsense, considering the sparks couldn't keep up a distance of 1 cm.
Jestem technik mechaniki mnie uczono ze 1mm iskry to 1kwolt, na filmiku pokazujesz łuk 1cm... naucz sie przeliczac. Przekładki tez maja znaczenie przy nawijaniu trafo
can I bright a cinema projector lamp with this inverter ?
What is the number of that trasitor and the number of that risitor
Can it work with a spark plug coil?
how many turns in Pri and sec coil 50 kv is possible only with thousţs of winding in sec coil
50 kv? No just a 2kv max...
Thanks for watching.
+++++++++
the arc starts at about 0.2 inch but sustains up to about 0.5". air breakdown starts in this circuit at about 0.2 inch. so that is the number to use.
Once it starts the air is ionized and conducts more readily so it sustains itself in a bigger gap.
www.cirris.com/learning-center/calculators/50-high-voltage-arc-gap-calculator?
the spark starts at about about 0.2 inch. Check .005 inch/1KV = 40KV
hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/AliceHong.shtml
"dielectric breakdown, occurs in air at an electric field strength of about Emax = 3 × 106 V/m."" = 0.2 * 2.54/100*1e6 = 5000 Volts.
So two websites give different results for dielectroc breakdown so the voltage is somewhere in between.
@@johnconrad5487 3*10^6 V per meter, it is around 30KV. Not 50kv though.
Он хочет развести нас как лохов, откуда там 50 киловольт ?
GRACIAS POR EL VIDEO PERO HUBIERA SIDO GRATIFICANTE E INTERESANTE SI NOS DA LA DESCRIPCION DE LA FORMA DE CONSTRUIR EL ENRROLLADO DEL FLY BACK GRACIAS
Un poco más arriba alguien describe que el flyback secundario tiene 1000 vueltas y el primario 12 vueltas. Utube no me deja copiarlo . Por favor buscalo en los comentarios.saludos.
Ple explain what use matril ple
if the coil of cable is added, will the voltage increase the plasma current?
The more wraps on the high voltage end means more voltage.
Boa tarde Top Tech, por gentileza gostaria de saber quais componentes foram utilizados neste projeto, Transistor e Resistor qual o Watts, e os Fios Esmaltados quais as Bitolas nas Bobinas é Quantas Voltas foram Realizadas no Carretel do 50kV... Desde já grato... Fico no aguardo.
Nice project
witch transistor you used
Is that holder plastic material? Please help me with the part that u use.. I really like to try.. 🙏
No
Itu berapa gulungan yang mengeluarkan plasma gan
how do you check the voltage...this inverter what for to be used...
All of You guys are bad Englich. No just kidding. You can check it by either a gap, or using a hv probe with high frequency DMM (if anything like this exists) or a digital oscilloscope. The invertor is here to create high frequency signal, not sure but most likely DC signal to induce voltage into the secondary coil.
Register ki kya value hai ?
Not 50kv.. Sorry guy.
How can this power a home?
Ерунда! Искра слабая и напряжение далеко от заявленного (Считайте 1мм = 1000вольт)
1мм - 1000воль - это а вакууме, на воздухе 3000воль на 1ммм
Пробивная прочность воздуха составляет 3 киловольта на миллиметр
It's fake. Why don't you show
input power source ?
Yeah need one oscillator, fake.
Yes
Please can i use irfp460
Output voltage hugely overrated!! Should have listed the components, their values and SWG.
Please give proper information
Super chity video. The background noise is most annoying. Should have narration of what was going on during assembly and describe the components as you went along.
Thank you
Nice circuit. What does the resistor?
The resistor limits the base current to the transistor. If you don't have it you'll burn up the transistor.
I have a few questions;
what are the thickness of the cables? and Is input power is AC or DC?
50.000V? Where?
Hi Top Tech
hi , is this an easiest way to fix an lcd backlight inverter ?
Bueno y esa segunda bobina, no es más fácil hacerla como la primera, y luego insertarla?, sería más fácil y menos dañas el alambre esmaltado.
Very nice
50 kv !??? Arc should be at least 4 - 5 cm in length.....stop posting extra values
about first coil what number of turns and if i want to make output voltage to variable from 1kv to 30 kv what i can do
Put a variable resistor in series with the primary winding of the transformer.
the tech specs dude, please. wire gauges, the dimensions, everything. this video is nice but i can't make shit if i dont know what you use or how
Good
Qual a especificação dos fios e o número de voltas,no vídeo não diz nada...
There is no 50 kV there. An arc of 1 kV gives 0.5 cm. So there should be a 25 cm minimum clearance with a spark
what gage was the wire, and how many windings did you use?
There are other videos on youtube that go into more details on how to make these transformers and circuits. This video is not very informative.
Can I know the name of transistor and resistor
50kv????
PR )))
50kv !!! 😲 realy
6000v
3*10^6 V per meter, it is around 30KV. Not 50kv though.
1mm por 1000v. En este experimento la tension no pasa de los 10000volts..no 50mil voltios
Totalmente lo mismo digo ...1cm serían 5 kv
Maaf pak resistor dan transistor nilainya berapa...
Transformer core kahase milega ??
Que tipos de transistores puedo usar?
ola bom dia amigo esse projeto feito com que bobina
Can we use it with 5v
Yes , we can . Just change the resistor value.
Yes
He did not show his battery
@@Its_sachin_7 yes he did he even shows connecting it at 4:33 its pink
Da igual el número de espiras de la bobina, el tipo de transistor, el valor de la resistencia y el voltaje de entrada? Es por que voy a usar una bobina de muchas espiras, un transistor BR D882 P U59 y una pila de 9 v
Que otro transistor que no sea el d882 puedo usar? O es el unico?
Resistance value kya hai isme
Why not working? 10k resistor, the same transistor, 2.4V
Show muitíssimo legal
Resistance ketna ?
good vid, but less explaining.
thnks anyway.
What??? More explaining is good!
What the the instruments used, can u please name them sir! 🙌
2n3055 transistor, 47 Ohm 2 watt resistor, tv flyback transformer core, 1000 turns enameled 50 AWG insulated between layers with paper for the secondary and 14 turns 12 AWG magnet wire center tapped for feedback and primary! :)
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Lame ass trollz
He definitly powers the tronsformer with an electric lighter, because you only hear the transformer making sounds when it is arcing. If it was permenatly powered trought a 3.7V battery you would hear a permenent transformer sound.
What???
What is the value of the resistor??
Which transistor
Thank you for watching. We used mosfet IRFZ44n
@@TopTechDiy put this information in description! congratulations to the chanel! sorry my english, i'm from brazil
Top Tech ....Put the component details in the description box .
10-15 kv
What transistor is This?Can you tô inform the components?
Transistor is IRFZ44N
The resistor is called "Joe mama"
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Bro use zero voltage switch too drive your flyback you get good result
oh thats what ZVS stands for. it took me a while to figure this out. Why dont I know it when i made my own ZVS driver...
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I'd say it's around 20-30kv
Is possible to find out the oscillation frequency of the device?
Yes, with an oscilloscope
50 kV means the spark gap is about 5 cm. also, anybody don't know how much turns primer & feedback & secondary wires??