Evening Flight around Stonehenge, Silbury Hill & Avebury Stone Circle, (within CAA rules)
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- All done within CAA rules.... A late evening, 360 degree flight around the iconic Stonehenge, with some additional amazing shots of the enormous Avebury Stone Circle, West Kennet Avenue and Silbury Hill, the largest manmade mound in the world, estimated to have taken 500 men a full 15 years to construct, providing a direct line of sight to Stonehenge and Avebury.
The CAA confirm that landowners cannot impose their own airspace regulations any more than you can impose a speed limit outside your own house. The CAA regulates airspace, no one else. This means the landowner can prohibit you taking off, operating and landing but cannot prohibit you flying over, anymore they could a paraglider or hot air balloon.
That said, respecting English Heritage's wish, I waited until around closing time to ensure visitors weren't bothered in any way. Remember to always fly with the greatest consideration for others who won't be enjoying the amazing views you get!
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Under CAA rules and regs, this is a perfectly permitted flight; it's the CAA who control airspace, not the landowner. But considerate flying is just as important, so waiting until around closing time so visitors aren't impacted in any way was key for me here.
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I have high regard for English Heritage but remember many people sadly find drones more annoying than shouting children or the cars and trucks thundering past Stonehenge so always fly with care and consideration, and you'll definitely get the nicest pictures after closing time without the masses of people.
Cheers,
Ian
Regards the CAA controlling airspace Ian, can that fact be applied to the NT prohibiting drones on their properties/area's, I'm not advocating flying over Tatton Gardens and the like but place's such as NT areas in the Lakes etc.
Hi Ian. Love this footage. I wa t to fly over a much smaller circle of stones very near to me as part of a video iam making of this lovely valley where I live and all its villages. But I was Th old no drones. Its just out side Bristol airspace. So I kind of think If I'm taking off from land outside the stones either very early in The morning or evening when no one will be there. Its a very quite site. What harm can it do. But reading English heritage rules. Would I get into troble. Failing this. I will just have to walk the drone around them and film by hand as a normal video and that's fine by them. Very strange thst a few feet in the air and they say no
NT do not own the air space - the stop tkeing off and landing on thier property . Best find a public footpath near-by .@@gedheaton1415
A good example of responsible drone flying. You’ve flown over sparsely populated areas at a reasonable height and at a time when you are not going to interfere with anyone’s enjoyment of the sites. Great work!
Hi Folks. It's not illegal, as some seem to think. Landowners can 'enjoy' the airspace above their land up to a dizzy height of ten feet, above that it's a matter for the Air Navigation Order by The Queen in Council (ANO), CAA and NATS. Landowners can prohibit take offs, that's within their rights, but not overflights, or for that matter filming as long as a 50 metre clearance is maintained. If the airspace is not restricted then you can fly a drone in it up to 400 feet above ground level - see UK ANO 2016, amended 2017 and 2018 and the supporting CAA documents. For example, if the site was crowded with people (more than 1,500) then the flight would be illegal, but it clearly it was not. I do agree that our National Trust is missing out on some very valuable world wide free publicity with its approach, but obviously they have concerns about insurance cover. I think they should consider granting reasonably priced permits to take off and land subject to specific, well thought out conditions - Membership of BMFA with its superb insurance cover and perhaps fence off an operating area for pilots with restricted flying times, for example. The land is legally held in trust for everyone's enjoyment, not just those on foot! Kudos, Ian, for raising the subject. BobUK
Cheers Bob, and thanks for the excellent write up of the relevant codes and restrictions in place. I researched and made sure everything was okay for this flight. As you said, I made sure it was outside of opening hours to ensure no crowds and stayed above 50 metres and below 400 feet, staying in VLOS. Had double checked the controlled airspace and that's about it as far as I can see.
This is my view too so I fly outside of opening hours because I realise there's always a risk of a bird strike and the drone falling out the sky and I don't want it hitting anyone so, in summer, I go places for sunrise, normally done by 7. Can do sundown now as many places are closed by 8 and I think they should be selling permits to film at certain times. Mind you I've seen an amusing sign post from Sedona Arizona banning food, drink, smoking, pets, drones and pictured is a cell phone from the 1990s, which were once also frowned upon lol.
A great approach... Cheers for the comments... Had a great time in Sedona :) Ian
So just to be clear, this is flight within all CAA rules, flown in unrestricted airspace, just south of Larkhill Controlled Airspace. Immediately to the north of the Stones is Larkhill Airspace; , NATS recommend you do not fly your drone in that airspace unless with great care and abiding by the CAA Drone Code. As it is, I didn't fly into the controlled airspace at all anyway.
English Heritage and the National Trust don't allow you to fly from within their land, but don't control the airspace above. In saying that, I didn't want to annoy the tourists so waited until around closing time to ensure no crowds. Cheers, Ian
That's my understanding as long as you don't take off or land on NT land you can fly and nothing they can do.
I only wanted to know as I want to go and do the same.
Hi Ian. Just read your article on Grey Arrows. Great video by the way and not breaking the law in anyway. I get fed up of these so called experts who do nothing other than complain, I think the drone owners themselves are the worse. Nothing illegal about your flight so well done...... people are so negative.
Cheers Leon! Yep, fully agree with you... Thanks, Ian
Brings back some great memories, certainly puts a different perspective on these historic locations. Thanks, well put together.
Flying after closing time, within CAA rules, and observing the restricted fly zone to the north.
As a hobbyist without PFCO, I am permitted to fly over private land as long as I stay more than 50 metres away from structures or people, keep in VLOS and am not in a no fly zone.
English Heritage (wrongly) state you cannot fly over their properties unless you pay them a hefty approval fee and have a PFCO.
English Heritage don't control airspace! The CAA does and the CAA have confirmed this to me this week (14 June 2018).
In this case, I wasn't on their land; I checked with National Air Traffic Control and confirmed there is indeed a restricted airspace immediately north of the Stones, but even that is only restricted and the guidance from NATS is Fly With Caution and obey the CAA Drone Code. However I did not fly into that airspace anyway.
By waiting for closing time, I've A, not annoyed the tourists, and more importantly B, avoided falling foul of the 'crowded areas' rule.
So as I see it, this was a perfectly valid flight.
Thanks for clearing that up Ian. Did you get any grief from the security on site or were they unaware? I think the drone code could be a little more informative as to take off / landing zone and who actually controls airspace over private land etc.
Historic Scotland sites are the same with regards to licences and permissions..cheers for sharing Ian as always..he's my latest if your interested ruclips.net/video/hdKCKRjKgTE/видео.html
Cheers Andy. I took off from some common land adjacent to the main site, so there was no security. Even if there was, as long as you're not breaking any CAA rules, there's not much they can do if you're not controlling the drone from their land. All about common sense though; trying to respect the visitors, irrespective of the technicalities of the rules. Hence I waited until closing time. Ian
Well, I would imagine the law is the same there.... They don't own the airspace as much as they'd like to... Nice video! I need to get up to Scotland... All that great landscape on our doorstep... Cheers, Ian
Great video, very informative, your approach is commendable & respectful, great video by the way & the comment about the national trust is very interesting. You have created some good conversation over this which was also great to read. Cheers!!
Thanks. Groundless prohibition is a growing issue and it needs to be discussed and made clear what people can and can't do. Cheers, Ian
Hi Ian it’s DW from Ryan’s Way, I loved your video work and the editing was excellent. I have finally got My Mavic Air, got the fly more combo. As I said I live in Hertfordshire so will be taking it out for the first proper day out on Sunday. Well done and all the best.
Excellent stuff! Take it easy and here's hoping for good weather! Ian
Wow! I got to see something I may never live to see in person! Thanks!!! That was awesome!
Great flight and footage, so thank you for sharing, ignore the drone keyboard warriors, you did absolutely nothing wrong, there will always be haters that have nothing better to do but troll you tube having a go at us drone pilots because they are totally ignorant about the rules and have no life of their own, total respect to you Ian, keep flying my friend.
mark williams Thanks Mark. Really appreciate the good words. I can handle idiots by using hard facts and regs. Cheers again, Ian.
mark williams well said mate !
Just found this one (after being a subscriber for a couple of years). Lovely video. I found it linked from your post about the CAA email, as I'm planning a trip to Thornborough Henges with the Mavic Mini. I read on the English Heritage site that they don't permit flying over the site and thought "that can't be right, there's no restriction shown". Thanks for sharing that clarification email and this video!
Lol, looking at the dislikes...looks like the drone police in full force
Yep... Except I'm more than happy I've stayed within the rules for this one, despite people's misconceptions. I'm trying to explain the actual rules instead of what English Heritage and the National Trust are trying to make us believe...... Cheers, Ian
Only one thing to say, f---g awesome.
I would fly tourist spots at first light.
A) its golden hour
B) no tourists
You could get closer then too, and English Heritage are just a landlord, its not about the heritage, its about making money.
brilliant flight Ian
Words can't really describe Stonehenge , visually more than beautiful and emotionally more than magical. It grabs you in the chest. I always woundered what this magnificent place was used for ? no speculations but, the exact use. Great footage Sir. Thanks for uploading, This is as close as most will every get to Stonehenge .....
Great disclaimer haha, and another awesome video mate.
Cheers Alan. Had a few neg comments, but I'm pretty certain of the rules on this one. Cheers fella, Ian
Ian in London you're correct on your regs mate. Not law until July 😉. As for NT and EH their rules are their rules. Don't make them law.
Ignore the naysayers, you will always get them. Partially down to them being jealous or lack of actual knowledge on the regs.
Superb work, the score is perfect Thanks for another great episode Cheers
Cheers for the good words! Ian
Wow!! Think this is some of your best work!! Thanks, I really enjoyed!
Bird's Eye Drone Services North Carolina Cheers for that!👍🏻👍🏻 Ian
Wow stone henge silhouette looks incredible!
Fantastic work. Beautifully done. You must be very pleased with it
thevideoark Thanks!! Yep, a great day's filming 👍🏻👍🏻
Very, very nice footage Ian and what a fantastic landscape. I guess I'll be watching this again at the DJI forum and it'll be right worth it. Well done mate. 👍
I flew over a Cadw site in Wales. States on their website it’s allowed when no public around ie when it’s closed. I flew after 5pm a Sunday after it shut. Still had these prats on Facebook moaning and spouting off ! If your not taking off from Private land and don’t fly too close then nothing wrong. These organisations I’m sure are pleased for the coverage, it’s a fantastic advert for the sites we have in this country
This is the point I'm trying to highlight here; groundless prohibition by landowners is nonsense, but consideration is everything. So what if you technically can fly any time? Wait until it's closed, and everyone is happy.... Nothing worse than know-it-alls who know nothing.... Cheers again, Ian
Great video. Those prehistoric sites are much better view from the air. Love it.
Hey Ian,
I really enjoyed that.
I live on the west coast of Canada so I've heard of Stonehenge of course but the other sites were new to me.
Gorgeous. Love the music too. Keep doing your videos they are very interesting. I pick up loads of tips and info from them.
Nicely done Ian
Beautiful. Thanks for sharing!
Nicely put together, filming, editing and music, thanks for sharing 👌🏻
1:45 my favourite mate.. nice job.. I dont know why but when Stone Henge came on I felt very emotional.!!!! keep up the great work
Smart E.R. Cheers Gareth. This really is one of my favourite vids....👍🏻
Excellent video Ian. Making me want to go over to brothers and get some footage...
Very nice Ian, matching music nicely done. I use XC weather forecast it’s spot on, it gives an hour forecast.
It actually rained right on schedule as we arrived to walk around the stones... But stopped later in the evening allowing me to make the flight.... Cheers again, Ian
Hello Ian thank you for sharing this is another very good video from you Regards TJK.
Thnaks Thomas. Looks like I need every 'thumbs up' I can get for this one :) :) :)
I think not only did you fly out of the way of people and did not provocate anyone our fine, you will always get people saying this and that but as long as like me you fly safe and obey the main rules, what the issue, regards TJK. keep it up Ian.
Oooh it feels like a guided tour! I no longer really need to visit Stonehenge :)
Isolationism at work....😎😎
Nice one Ian, fantastic footage. I have decided to make a 'rule' that no drones are allowed to fly over my house, not that they do, but if they did, they aren't allowed to!
I'd go one further Paul, and offer drone fliers a £1,000 permit to fly over your house... :)
Some terrific views of our fabulous historical landscape, Ian. Came across your channel quite by accident while checking out the situation re flying over EH sites. Loved your choice of music. Thanks for sharing.👍😀
Was very happy with this video.....👍🏻
Great video I loved it
You’re too bloody talented!!!!! Excellent stuff.
Aw shucks! Thanks for that!
great job amazing video.
Well done!
Nice work!
I enjoyed this, I think it’s clear from the footage that you were being respectful. As for the rules, one site says this, another states that. 🤷♀️ I was going to film Caerphilly Castle but held off because of the confusion that was being served to me 🤦♀️
Don’t know why it’s warranted this much dislikes, and I hope you keep uploading, I’ve learnt about drone settings from you
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I am a little surprised by the number of dislikes; I think people may be thinking I'm a drone-hooligan and not realised this was done after closing and within the rules.... Nice to hear from you again and glad the vids are helping you... Cheers, Ian
Cadw sites are fine when they are closed. States this on their own website. Don’t be put off by other flyers lack of knowledge.
Leon Brown Thanks Leon, that kind of makes sense. I’d never actually looked at this site, weather pending I’ll try it next time I’m there.
Though it has blown me away how much dislike this has got, more than likes 🤷♀️
I think there's a bit of mischief going on here; yesterday afternoon it got over 100 more dislikes in the space of an hour or two; more than the number of views itself in that time frame. 95% of the comments are very positive.... :) Ian
Ian in London Wow, really..... it’s hardly offensive, in fact on other stone henge drone footage, there’s been no hype like what you’ve received.
Great video. 😁🖒
cool video Ian, great to see the marvels of the South compared to up here in the North 🙂👍
The West Country really has some amazing places.... But you have the amazing scenery.... :) cheers fella. Chat soon, Ian
Needed you with me while we were in the UK for the past 2 months. 😎 Great work Ian. Keep them coming !! - Bill
Thanks Bill! But glad you had a great time here! Ian
lovely footage
Nice footage fella. English fields are beautiful. 👍
Green and Pleasant Land... Especially in May! Cheers fella, Ian
Great vid. Not quite sure why so many 👎🏻. Keep up with the posts 👍🏻
I think some people initialliy thought I was being a drone-hooligan buzzing tourists. I've now made it clear that wasn't the case and was sticking to the rules, but I have a bit of thumbs up catchng up to do now :) :)
One day Ian we will only be able to fly in our front rooms!
Glad you had a great day, and there was no risky or dangerous flying.
Mark.
I hope not Mark. I think the new rules coming in soon and further rules next year will keep things from being too restrictive.... Cheers, Ian
beautiful video, excellent flying.. love your reasoning about the legalities of this and why this flight should have no issues .. only thing is i wished you would have posted a video of such beauty in 4k :-) but that might just be whining since i just got a 4k screen and wanting to see some gorgeous content on it (such as yours)
Ah, thanks for that! I do shoot everything in 4k but upload in 1080 as I think the RUclips compression pretty much kills anything higher res than that...... I was very happy with the end result and music with this one... Cheers, Ian
Amazing video great choice of music a like and fully watched from me 👍👍
Cheers fella! Glad you liked it! I searched long and hard for the music.... Ian
You spoiled it for me now lol, I have seen it all now I do not need to visit it lol. However I do now want to go with my Drone and get some decent views will post links to my capture when I get a chance. Thank you for the advise around being able to fly off land etc.
Great places to fly. Just up the road from Silbury is Cherhill. Take a look at the video I've done of the White Horse and Monument if you get the chance. Great man-made and natural features for drone shots.
Thanks Chris! I shot Hackpen White Horse but wasn't aware of Cherhill... We'll check that out.... Cheers, Ian
I posted this on Mavicpilots but interested in others opinion. In no way meant as a dig at you Ian - genuinely interested to get to the bottom of the situation.
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Nice video. I have a few landmarks I want to image.
I am interested in your interpretation of the regs though. Having read your post initially I agreed and was about to let loose in the Peak Districts.
But, having done some research (including the reading the relevant sections of the Civil Aviation Act 1982) it would seem that private land owners do ‘own’ the airspace up to somewhere between 500-1000’ and can certainly prohibit people using it.
It falls under trespass and nuisance though so is strictly tort law and a civil offence so no powers of arrest etc but they could sue you through the civil courts.
To investigate further I asked my friend who works for the Peak National Park who also prohibit drones over their land and again he suggested they do have rights up to a certain height and again this height, whilst fluid, is greater than the 400’ we are now allowed.
Again though it is very much a civil matter but that said with the greater powers the police will have under the new regs there is a greater risk of arrest perhaps.
Note also that the National Trust and English Heritage have both successfully sued people who have sold images of their properties for commercial gain without permission.
It is somewhat a grey area but I do not agree that control of airspace is solely a CAA matter. Landowners do absolutely have legal rights and it the enforcement of these rights where there is room for interpretation.
That said my take is fly sensibly, be polite and generally ask forgiveness rather than permission but always be prepared to apologise, pack up and move on if asked.
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I should add I agree you are 100% within drone regs, CAA guidelines etc but I do also think English Heritage can prohibit you flying over their land under other laws (such as trespass).
Our legal system is very archaic in parts particularly when it comes to the difference between regulations, criminal law, tort law, civil law etc. Becomes a bloody nightmare at times :£
Hi Danny. Really good input thanks. As you'll know, I've replied on Mavicpilots, but for those people who aren't members, I've copied my thoughts here too:
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Thanks Danny.
Really appreciate the detailed and considered view here. As I said on here, and the video, I'm really interested in all points of view here as I am increasingly annoyed by the groundless prohibition of flying by landowners and managers, whilst at the same time, fully understand the need to not annoy or harras people.
Given the grey area of the law, I think people on either side of this will find information backing up their point of view. However, I did read this highly relevant article from the CLA (the Country Land and Business Association) which actually has a dedicated and highly detailed document on the rights of landowners versus the rights of people to fly over it.
In that, they quote various legal cases but summarise with the basis that whilst there is a general acceptance of the requirement of being at least 50 metres above private property, this could possibly be challenged. Quoting a previous judgement: "But if the circumstances were such that a plaintiff was subjected to the harassment of constant surveillance of his house from the air, accompanied by the photographing of his every activity, I am far from saying that the court would not regard such a monstrous invasion of his privacy as an actionable nuisance for which they would give relief."
A grey area indeed.
I would argue I am not constantly surveying the area. I flew high enough to ensure no privacy concerns. I waited until around closing time to ensure visitors weren't in any way annoyed by the flight (leaving aside the main road some 50 metres away with trucks and cars roaring past all day) and, of course, I complied with all relevant CAA and Air Traffic Control instructions.
So perhaps a test case is needed. I'm defo not volunteering to be that test case :) and thankfully I'm far from the first person to post a RUclips video circling the stones. That said, if English Heritage, the National Trust or the CAA come knocking, I would hope the points and regulations I've abided by would put an end to the matter.
On a final note, I am intrigued by the idea of prosecution of an image. When I think of all the landmarks around the country, often managed (as opposed to owned) by English Heritage or the National Trust, being photographed by thousands of visitors each month, I wonder how that would actually stand up in court? Every situation is different and I guess it boils down to whether you're taking images for commercial gain or private use. That said, the CAA view RUclips as non commercial, even when the channel is monetised and shows adverts. Either way, for now, I'll put my future best selling book "Stonehenge from the air" on hold for a bit :)
Thanks again for the input. At this point in time, I'm still happy with my video and its legitimacy... Hoping that doesn't change....
CLA Link:
www.cla.org.uk/sites/default/files/GN10-17%20Drones%20and%20Private%20Property%202017.pdf
Ian
Nice film Ian, back in UK now and looking to maybe move to Herefordshire so some good filming oportunities I reckon! Cheers Andy
Great video Ian! While I watched it I immediately noticed how mindful you were being by staying high. I had not yet read your description or any of the comments, and I'm glad! Like I said, it was quite clear you were being respectful. Thanks for the aerial tour, I hope to visit London someday.
Cheers Norm! Had mostly good comments; just a few thinking I've broken the rules which I've triple checked I didn't.... Glad you liked it. Ian...
The first video I ever shot was of the Apple HDQ. (the spaceship) early on New Years Day 2017. It was under construction, not occupied, nobody was around (likely in bed with hangovers from New Years Eve) and I did my homework...perfectly legal. But...as I was bringing the drone in I was 'harassed' by a security guard driving a Prius with rotating lights. Lets just say he wasn't too intimidating! The video mostly sucks because I had no clue what I was doing (still don't!) but fast forward to 5:30 and you'll see him. Hilarious! ruclips.net/video/otympNlXNiI/видео.html
i've heard similar stories of people wanting to fly over the Apple HQ..... Shame they're so any technology in this respect...
Nice flight and great job editing.
Thanks for that 👍 Ian.
Great video will give them some of the sites a try,as I only live in Hampshire. Thanks for the cleaning up on the rules👍🏻👍🏻.
Paul Horscroft Cheers Paul. I think it's very important to consider the impact on visitors too, hence waiting for closing time. Just because we can doesn't always mean we should! Hope you get some great early morning or sunset shots..... Ian.
Ian: I'm going to SH next Friday (09/09) trying to fly my DJI Mini 3 Pro. I have already sticked the Operator ID to the drone. If you have any more considerations, please tell me. Kind regards, Marcelo
Stay away from people and enjoy the view! 🤠
I pass there a lot but haven't filmed from the air yet.
I bet the custodians on the ground were fuming that they couldn't stop your perfectly legal flight.
Great filmwork.
I stayed high and waited until closing time, so hopefully no one got annoyed 👍🏻😀
Nicely done Mate! (Going for my CAA golden ticket at the end of this month. Hopefully)...
Life's too short :)
DBM. England.
At 2:31 that green crop field looks like you could have got some amazing photos of the wheel tracks and photoshopped a tractor in!
Isn't the hill supposed to be dangerous or some like that because of the hole UFO's and such??
No one knows........ :) But I think it's more a burial ground....
I appreciate your video and information regarding this as I’m headed to Stonehedge & also have a dj drone that I would love to fly but don’t want to be fined or arrested for making a video, still up in the air of weather to bring it or not but love the footage you captured!
Well, flying after closing time from the adjacent land not owned by English Heritage is a good starting point.... :)
Ian in London worst problem I’ve faced flying a drone is from people who claim to know the laws & are just irritated because of misinformation they have read via google or some other site, thank!
@@Otownd12superman That's why the registration process coming in today may actually help as you're armed with the rules and regs....
Ian in London, thanks for the info it’s completely different here in the states vs Europe.
@@Otownd12superman Not really; land owners can't stop you flying over their land (eg National Parks), they can only stop you controlling (ie take off or land)
Ballsy to upload this as Stone Henge is a no fly area ( unless you got permission somehow). Great shots though, and this is why the NT need to allow filming at certain times... There missing out on so much free publicity. I,m a NT member and still I'm not allowed...
Aha... remember they don't control airpace! It's like you saying no on can fly over your house and garden! So I took off from the adjacent field that's not their land, and stayed more than 50m high from them.... :) And used the NATS Drone assist app to confirm CAA airspace regs there. Cheers, Ian
Just watched Stonehenge fly past great footage super control, what drone did you use was it the Mavic 2 Pro.
Yes Steven; the M2Pro performed perfectly that day.... :)
Hi Ian, lovely work. Will you please share with us the method used in firstly, locating and then contacting the various adjacent land owners to the four sites you filmed in this video? It’s a problem that’s proving to be quite time consuming for me and I’d be very interested in a proven method. Many thanks, keep up the good work. Doug
Actually for all of these clips, I took off from public pathways. Remember it's only the take off point that is controlled by the landowner. They don't own the airspace, so by taking off from public land I was fine to fly around all 4 spots without further permission required.
I would add, as a hobbyist, I take the approach that unless there are clear signs or known rules like that for English Heritage and the National Trust, then I believe in flying and stopping if asked by the landowner. That's never happened.... Much easier.
Ian.
Hi there, great vid as usual. What post editing software do you use, if any. I am undergoing a steep learning curve with Davinci Resolve 16. I currently have a mavic pro and galaxy s10, both of which are capable of 4k
Thanks Ian. I use Premier Pro but for many videos, this included, I actually use Cyberlink Power Director 17. Reasonable price and very intuitive. It also has shadow file editing to help speed up 4k editing. Cheers, Ian.
Great video Ian . I went past Stonehenge last year and thought about flying the mavic over it , but there were so many people there I decided not to .Can I ask , what altitude do you normally fly for shots like that, and how far is your range .? I’m still not comfortable with it being too far away from me, and in some skies it’s easy to lose sight of it . Thanks mate .
For the flight over Stonehenge, I took off from a pathway just the other side of the main road going alongside it, so I had to fly around 300-400 metres away from me. Height wise I just stuck to around 300 feet. I waited until closing time so I wasn't buzzing all the tourists... But yes, you need to keep an eye on the small map and the FPV view to keep track of its position. That's why it's useful to have a friend alongside being the physical spotter for you at the same time. Cheers, Ian
Wonderful shots! Liked and subscribed!
Cheers Gary! Ian
Thanks Ian. I notice the National Trust does not permit any flying of drones over it's properties due to lots of 'incidents' but I couldn't find any online. Hmmm.
Exactly.... In fact they state complete nonsense on their no drones web pages.....
@@IaninLondon I think as you say, it's about using common sense. Not flying over crowds of people and not invading people's privacy.
@@ackytrax7552 Exactly...👍🏻
@@IaninLondon I found the English Heritage no-drone policy on their web page for Maiden Hill. It's literally a hill, with big earthen walls on it. A drone impacting it at high speed would do less damage than the sheep have done.
@@rcrawford42 yes. Hence as long as you take off away from their land, you can happily and legally fly over it...
Lovely, precious, smooth and lime light flight in here... That´s lovely and thanks for sharing these beautifuls locations (noted on my notebook when visiting your country ; )) so THANKS again for being so kind of sharing these provate moments of your life)
And by the way,,, Keep Smiliiiiing (I Think I know the reason for you to do so.... ; )))
Best wishes and happy flyinnnnnnnnnng
Thanks Ed! Always good to hear from you! Take care fella.. Ian
Hi Ian, apologies if you’ve covered this question elsewhere. But as a total novice, potential drone owner, could you tell me what sort of heights you were flying in this video? I have no idea how to visualise what the 400 feet ceiling looks like versus other ‘high enough’ altitudes (ie that don’t annoy people or take any risks). Many thanks, Tom
The Stonehenge clip was shot around 100 metres or 300 feet. I then cropped the 4K video to make it look closer.
Your remote display will always tell you your altitude as you fly, so you'll always know what you're doing. Once your drone is around 100 metres high, it's barely noticeable as a sound. The ironic bit about this location is the proximity to a main road with trucks and cars roaring past.... Cheers, Ian
Great video Ian. Looks like you were lucky with the weather I could just see the haze setting it in ended up raining by late pm in w Sussex . It's definitely worth the effort to drive to these awesome locations, you planned your locations shots really well.
Cheers Kevin! It was a great day..... Ian
Ian in London Thanks Ian, yes I noted the drone app tells you the altitude. I was rather thinking about visualising beforehand when you plan shots, but I guess this comes with practice! Good to know that the drone sound disappears at 100m. The drones that buzzed me on the beach and river were literally 15 or 20m, which is very antisocial!
Ian, just to let you know I decided to go for the Mavic Air - just ordered it today!
With a little common sense and respect for others we will be able to fly a lot more places as you have done here without the drone police spitting their dummies out.
Bit surprised at the number of dislikes this one's getting though... but there we are.... Cheers, Ian
Yeah me too, have looked up rules as in CAA and can find nothing wrong here.
Should check out Orkney. There's some amazing neolithic monuments and villages up there (bit of a treck but well worth it for history)
I would love to... It's on the list....
Amazing places... I've subscribed...
Nice footage. Do you have a flight over the entire West Kennet Avenue? I didn't get to walk all along it when I visited. What proportion of the total length is shown in this video?
It's around a mile long. I flew most of it but didn't out the whole clip into the video.
@@IaninLondon Thanks!
Thanks for the great video Ian. What music did you use, it's great!
Thanks. It's Maps, by August Wilhelmsson www.epidemicsound.com/music/search/?term=maps%20
Hi Ian,may I please ask if such flights are still currently legal? (Well after the lockdown and other world issues when we are back to normal) Thank you for sharing this video)
Check on the NATS app to ensure there are no airspace restrictions and as long as you're not on their land then you should be permitted to fly.
Ian in London : Thank you
Great video Ian.. you try and get over to the Fovant badges in Wiltshire also the horse at Westbury.... I'm gonna try those soon as i live in Hants.
I hadn't even heard of them but they look a great target to fly around.... Thanks for the heads up..👍👍
Was this the real stonehenge? How did they let you do this? I have never been, so wondering how protected they are keeping it :)
Hi Fisheye. Yes, it's the real Stonehenge. Have a look at the top pinned comment here and it explains everything. Cheers, Ian
No worries, great video!
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Mmm stirred up a little dust with this one Ian, nevertheless great shots & thanks for sharing.
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Only one person's dust :) cheers tad... Ian
Did you have any problems with permission for Stonehenge or did you have to pay? Great video.
I have my PFCO That's why I was asking I heard a rumour that the NT Where going to allow filming certain times for a fee. Was interested to know the circumstances.
ie Was it legal. Still great shots so many of these places and we cant legally film. I live in the New Forest and cant fly anywhere as it National Park. Drives me crazy.
So, yes, this was a perfectly legal flight......
Just read English heritage I was right in thinking they want to charge to allow drone flights. I can understand the safety aspect if it's busy then don't fly but to charge for us film our heritage?
Steve Golding forgot to mention that English Heritage already permit you to fly if you apply to them, have a pfco, pay their permit fee, pay to meet up in advance to discuss the flight plan and return to film when the grounds are closed. But as mentioned, they don't control airspace so in fact, all they can do is forbid you from controlling the drone from their land. That's why I made this flight from adjacent common land...... But agree it's probably nicer for everyone if you wait until closing time. Golden hour of light and no visitors....
Hi Ian. Hope your well. I wonder if i could ask you a question regarding airspace. National Trust states that you cannot fly drones over their land. Do they have a special agreement with the CAA
No, they don't. They've no right to say you can't fly a drone over their property
You should head back to hackpen Hill. There’s now a crop circle’ if you do let me know and I’ll meet up with you would love to have a little drone meet
Aw that would have been great to see! But I'm a 3.5 hour drive away...... Take a shot and post it up fella..... Ian...
Awesome work and very inspiring. You do realise that you're gonna have to go back and do it again with the Mavic 2 Pro right?! :)
Ha, yeah... When it arrives next week hopefully. Already ordered 👍🏻👍🏻
Can I ask please I flew around a NT house that was closed as 07:30 in the morning sunrise and I never took off from their land and I stuck to CAA Rules as my hight and between 250ft-301ft A local newspaper did a story online about the house and used my photo (No money was paid for the photos) the NT have sent me an email asking me to remove my footage and ask the newspaper to do the same. Can I ask please where do I stand I myself don’t feel I have done anything wrong. Tony
You could ask them if they would ask the same if the photo was taken with a telephoto lens from a helicopter or paraglider.... If you were flying legally but were not on their land, it's your picture and you can do whatever you like with it... commercial or free...
@@IaninLondon cheers 🍻 Ian I was hoping your answer would read like this as I said I felt like I was not in the wrong on another note your videos are fantastic 👍🏻
I flew lask week and drone assist mentions it was totally ok to take off around the areas. Why all those comments about not being able to fly?
Hi there- I had the same recently whereby NT emailed me about photographing one of their hills from above. I have since had an apology from them as a) they had used my images, b) I wasn't over their land (though I would have been within my right to) and c) I let 40,000 people know on social media, many of them probably NT customers. I also met one other photographer, quite prominent, and he had the same email, but never heard from them since and continues to feature their land. I work in management at Heathrow and know the CAA laws, particularly CAP722, and from my perspective I plan to keep photographing our historic countryside for my followers and customers, and will be utilising my "spam" folder for any unwanted emails. That said Ian makes an incredibly good point about our duty of care as pilots and flying outside of visiting hours, within VLOS and away from people is crucially important. instagram.com/hedley_thorne
Hi mate do you have to contact air traffic control fly over stonehenge there is a military base close by I think but not sure I'm going Saturday morning
Do you need a special permit from the CAA to fly over Stonehedge?
Hi Douglas. No, you just need to abide by their standard rules. But if it's crowded, you will fall foul of flying over a large gathering of people rule.... Hence after closing time ... Ian
Ian in London better make sure my drone insurance is paid up then and reading the PDS wording carefully
Took a lot of advice from your videos but unfortunately got too ambitious and ended up sticking the drone 23m up a tree. It fell down after 26 hours (almost to the minute) but miraculous still works, despite being caught in typhoon rains overnight. I suppose we learn from our mistakes! In any case, here’s video of the day which includes the offending tree before my ambition grew beyond my skill level.
ruclips.net/video/rod30c5-BHA/видео.html
Well, ay least you got it back and it works! Learn and move on....👍🏻👍🏻. Nice video...
Ian in London Thank you. Lesson learned. New propellers on order.
Hi this is Troy - I think we spoke before
I read your post and all i can say m8 is fair play for highlighting the situation
you are correct they do not and nobdy ownes the airspace they own the land maybe but its public land
There all moneygrabbers iddiots treating us like we are idiots the ones who fly for real reasons not playboys
Cheers Troy @troypointerphotography
Big Thumbs up and sub from me
Thanks fella! You live in an amazing part of the country! Cheers Ian.
Oh dear me, there you go again ... using you brain......I think the 'jobsworths' will have their nose put well out of joint. Great shots, my favourite is the shots of Silbury hill. Happy flying from Turangi in NZ.
Cheers Andy! I can handle the wannabe Drone Police, don't you worry :) How I wish w had GPS drones when I lived in Auckland & Chch... All the best fella... Ian
You used to be a JAFA Ian? :D
Only briefly.... then I saw the light and moved to Chch, the Southern Alps and everythign else I miss so much now :)
Hi Ian, Managed to get a lovely winters day up around the mountains the Tongariro National Park... ruclips.net/video/bQdC1UoOZ_c/видео.html
You are making me home sick bro ,English man In Japan