Ok just to clarify: I like the new OST, I enjoy both of them and I know SEGA just couldnt use the old one anymore because of legal reazons. This is just a meme, and only in this format so I could use the Jetzones ver as well. Both themes are great, sonic's ost is always great...... minus the dark brotherhood one, you know which one im talking about. Its just, like I said in the description: Im gonna miss old Ice Cap zone's theme
Legal reasons my ass sega damn well could have just coughed up the money to buy the rights to the songs but no sega have to be so fucking greedy that they even rushed another sonic game for like the 5th or 6th fucking time now sega are greedy pigs now they only care about money if they gave a damn about the games they made then colors ultimate wouldn't have had the glitch that could have literally KILLED people with epilepsy and they wouldn't have rushed 06 rise of lyric and colors ultimate alongside forces and origins
@@avidamateur4118 I do like carnival night zone, I just didnt think it was anyone's favorite. Carnival Night is good, but I also prefer Flying Battery and Hydrocity.
Yeah, uh, so hard times was an unreleased song made by the jetzons in 1982, and made 16 bit in 1993 but the prototype tracks were in case the tracks didn't work out but now in origins, they sound much... worse.
@@jonathankitsos1291 no, the original tracks were just that. the original tracks. they replaced them later in development, and the PC version already had these original tracks.
@@90sNath I think you've mistaken launch base and carnival night for ice cap zone, THOSE were butchered. While ice cap zone is basically just act 2 of the proto for both acts.
@@jboneblood Heh, you're shown that you're really biased. Calling the prototype tracks trash? You kidding? lol They're actually bangers. And this is coming from me who did not grew up with the Sonic and Knuckles PC collection. Preferring the final tracks is all subjective. But the prototype tracks sounds more what you expect of a Sonic game than the final tracks and you call them trash? Just saying.
@@retrofan4963 Yes, because your post doesn't show your bias. Your last sentence doesn't prove anything more that what J said. And yeah, everyone knows there are no arguments here it's just people agreeing with each-other so you don't have to break out the child's manual on how opinions work either. I agree with J too. The atmosphere is dead in the prototypes.
They had to because of all the legal problems they would’ve had if they added the original tracks. But the prototype tracks were still there and sega remixing it is just sega.
@@Klotzy4433 Already have, huge difference. Carnival Night Zone sounds like waiting and then playing in an amusement park, Ice Cap is more leaning on the sound of snow than Ice, and Launch Base, while not as funky, does fit the mood of marching towards the Death Egg before it's too late. and it's all clobbered by Jun.
@@Klotzy4433 he made the credits music as a preview to stranger in Moscow but the credits aren’t in the game because it’s combined with sonic and knuckles
honestly, Sega needs to hire a new sound arranger. Not a new composer, a new *arranger* AKA the guy that takes the sheet music and puts it into FL studio or somthing to make it sound all... Genisisy.
The OG Sonic 3 soundtrack is good and better than Sonic Origins replacement, but atleast the Sonic Origins replacement does a good job remastering the prototype music and making it feel like you are in the zone, the sonic origins for ice cap makes me feel like I am in Ice Cap doing Sonic's thing and go through it with speed
The Proto music (which was 95% complete by the time of its replacement) was vastly superior to the early Midi's that Jun Senoue based his remixes based on. The only issue it had was the same as Starlight Zone from sonic 1, where an instrument would get passed over by SFX
They had no choice. It’s because the original Ice Cap Zone music is composed by Michael Jackson, it is highly unlikely they will get it back as it is now Sony Music property.
I've already bought Sonic 1 and 2 so many times, that I see no problem in enjoying Sonic 3&K through emulation, including my favorite music. I've given Sega so much Sonic money through the years. I deserve the original Sonic 3 and that's what I'll play.
Yeah, Sonic 3 Complete is still the best way to play the whole game of Sonic 3&K. It's a romhack made by the same guy who later made sonic mania, Christian whitehead, and it combines both games into 1 as was originally planned, and has all these different options that you wouldn't expect to be there, like you can use the levels and layouts of any of the characters and play through them with any character, e.g. play through the full length game including death egg zone with knuckles, plus it has things like the original level order that was planned (until they had to split the game into two). In the original order, Flying Battery zone is in the sonic 3 half of the game, coming after carnival night zone and before ice cap. So the level transition to ice cap, in the original plan, was to have you fly out of the flying battery through the door, which came loose and fell off too, and then you snowboard down the mountain at the beginning on that door from flying battery instead of just a snowboard that happens to be there. All those options, and stuff like that, even level transitions, were painstakingly put in the romhack by Christian whitehead for _FREE_ with him obviously never charging anyone any money to download and play it. Yet, Sega expect us to pay £30 or whatever for sonic origins when it has absolutely nowhere near the same number of options as this romhack from 15 years ago The only thing is, I wonder if Sonic 3 Complete works on original hardware, an actual mega drive. Red Hot Sonic does videos about that so maybe he's done a video on this romhack specifically, I'll have to have a look. But, as it is, I have no desire to play the full sonic 3&K game in any other way than this romhack. It's the definitive way to play it. The only thing that'd make it even better would be if it were wide-screen, but that's no big deal really. The point of sonic games is to play them over and over, learning all the level layouts and enemy placement, so that you can go through the levels quicker and quicker. So you don't need to see what's coming up to know exactly what's coming up, you'll know regardless
@@They_are_Arthur Because it sounds like your usual fan entitlement. It's funny to hear so many people bitch over some video game music. Sega can't sell music that they don't have the rights to. It doesn't matter what you think you "deserve". You can't get it. Either stop complaining, or don't buy the game.
I really don't get why people complain about this so much because this was out of Sega's control, they didn't have the legal rights to the old tracks anymore. People have already made mods to patch back in the original music, so it's not even really an issue
Because the game itself is sh!t while the soundtrack is the only thing worth giving a crap about. If it weren't the case, there wouldn't be so much crying about hard times. Also, the 40 dollar price tag is brutal for 3.5 2d games that were made when Moses was a kid.
I actually completely forgot that there was an alternate version of the ice cap zone music. I remember the one for launch base zone because I played a Sonic Knuckles collection on PC back in the '90s, but I forgot about the ice cap one
I'd rather have the ACTUAL prototype music than whatever the hell we were given. Besides, getting the rights to the original music is impossible now because it's not just Michael Jackson's estate they have to deal with but like a bunch of other composers like Brad Buxer. Why else did it take so long for Headcanon to announce the soundtrack to be used in the Sonic 3 portion of the game in between the first trailer, and said announcement?
Funny thing about the newer Icecap OST is that it's actually been around for a VERY long time. I didn't know about the original song since i never got that far on the Mega Drive version. I did however have the PC version from AGES ago when Sonic 3 and Knuckles was on the CD-Rom for PC and the newer icecap song was already there.
the truth is that the theme of Sonic Origin is not bad it could easily be the snow theme of any other classic Sonic installment but what was really wrong was that they changed it
Well, you gotta accept it, licensing is pretty much a big issue all the time. Plus imo the Prototype tracks are still good, they aren't the ones in the final game but they are still good in terms of music
@@darthvader8744 are you forgetting how greedy SEGA is? They are charging 40 bucks for 3.5 2d games that were made when Moses was a kid. As if they are going to use that money to bring MJ back from the land of dead and hire him to compone tracks for CD & 3
@@darthvader8744 isn’t Michael Jackson’s music even more successful than like, any sonic game ever? I think it would take a lot of money for them to just get a version of the songs that people like more than the versions they already made. The prototype music isn’t even bad anyway tbh, I think this is just fanboy whining from y’all lol.
@@Aiden-Ed Not even Michael Jackson music. It was written in the early 80s by a band named The Jetzons which Brad Buxer was a part of. Brad Buxer also worked on Sonic 3 (who claims that MJ was involved but minimal, on this song in particular his involvement was non-existent). For a while SEGA was not bothered and continued to re-release the game and its' music but suddenly stopped. SEGA's old strategy for releasing copyrighted material without paying royalties was to just do it and hope nobody noticed but obviously someone did. SEGA doesn't want to pay for previous usage of songs that didn't belong to them so they are not going to start now. Ice Cap Zone's song is owned by Fervor Records who makes pretty much all their income by licensing their music out to TV studios and film. So if SEGA wants to use their music Fervor wants money, that is their business model. You are right though the prototype music isn't that bad, it isn't great like the release music is either though. Criminally though it is not made to even sound like it came from a Sega Genesis. If it did it would probably sound a lot better, that music was after all written with that hardware in mind.
That track used to represent Origins isn’t even from Origins it’s from the actual prototype build. It does use the same song as the prototype but it sounds distinctly different.
Sega should’ve thought twice about the soundtrack we all know and love. Because the soundtrack is still owned by the other party. Frickin Micheal Jackson.
This is how I learned about "Hard Times" by the Jetzons, and how that's basically how Ice Cap Zone Act 1's theme came to be. A meme from SpongeBob criticizing the prototype song used in a collection.
Nah I only bought it so I could play S3@K since there's no other way to play the game other than playing it online with terrible touch screen controls, and the inability to save your progress. I just really wanted to play it since it's my favorite Sonic game, so I got it. The other 3 games I already have on my phone so I didn't really care for them.
SpongeBob: Hooray hooray that was great Squidward all those wrong notes you played made it sound more original Squidward: what I didn’t play any wrong notes SpongeBob: yeah see you’re playing it like this, when ordinarily it goes like this, I’m partially doing it in the key minor myself
The new ost doesn't looks really bad, its just looks strange, because everyone, have stuck in the mind, that ice cap music, is the original sonic 3 one, and not the sonic origins one
I've been playing sonic 3 for the first time with the sega classics collection on steam. Didn't know until today it still hosts the original songs on that version. Feeling lucky.
Why is everyone mad at sonic origins for not using music from an early version 💀💀💀💀sonic fans get mad at everything just like an early version of frontiers
It sucks that they couldn't secure those rights from Jackson's estate and I do accept it. Though this does represent our feelings on the matter as fans lol.
The reason why they can’t use it for origins, is because sonic 3 used music from the jetsons, it was a collaboration with them. So that’s why they can’t use it.
I don't hate the new one, but the old one I can't listen to without the image of one of those big camping coolers just in my head, and that's pretty chilly
Игры
Ok just to clarify: I like the new OST, I enjoy both of them and I know SEGA just couldnt use the old one anymore because of legal reazons.
This is just a meme, and only in this format so I could use the Jetzones ver as well.
Both themes are great, sonic's ost is always great...... minus the dark brotherhood one, you know which one im talking about.
Its just, like I said in the description: Im gonna miss old Ice Cap zone's theme
Same. The prototype one doesn't sound bad, but too bad someone butched it.
Legal reasons my ass sega damn well could have just coughed up the money to buy the rights to the songs but no sega have to be so fucking greedy that they even rushed another sonic game for like the 5th or 6th fucking time now sega are greedy pigs now they only care about money if they gave a damn about the games they made then colors ultimate wouldn't have had the glitch that could have literally KILLED people with epilepsy and they wouldn't have rushed 06 rise of lyric and colors ultimate alongside forces and origins
Just play a goddamn ROM
@@Frustratedartist2 I have the Roms, Sonic 3 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Finally, someone else who doesn't hate it-
My favorite track in the original game was Carnival Night. So, you can imagine my shock and disappointment. 😞
what
@@ceptemzorpus Carnival Night's music got replaced in Origins, alongside Launch Base and Ice Cap due to copyright.
@@avidamateur4118 ik, my thing was that they said that their favourite track was carnival night
@@ceptemzorpus I mean it's their opinion, Carnival Night is pretty good IMO but I prefer other tracks such as Flying Battery and Hydrocity.
@@avidamateur4118 I do like carnival night zone, I just didnt think it was anyone's favorite. Carnival Night is good, but I also prefer Flying Battery and Hydrocity.
that mashup actually sounds fantastic
Its the real song
Hard Times by the Jetzons was the basis of Ice Cap Zone
Actually this is a mashup of Hard Times and the song in the game. Listen to the original song again and you'll hear it
Yeah, uh, so hard times was an unreleased song made by the jetzons in 1982, and made 16 bit in 1993 but the prototype tracks were in case the tracks didn't work out but now in origins, they sound much... worse.
@@jonathankitsos1291 no, the original tracks were just that. the original tracks. they replaced them later in development, and the PC version already had these original tracks.
I honestly wish origins did sound as described here. It unforetuantly doesn't.
its directly from orgins though
@@jaywarudo nope. Origins sounds MUCH MUCH WORSE then what's being heard here
@@90sNath I think you've mistaken launch base and carnival night for ice cap zone, THOSE were butchered. While ice cap zone is basically just act 2 of the proto for both acts.
@@jaywarudo that sucks though. Cause ice cap act 2 was literally the only prototype track I didn't like. So that's an ouch to me
@@90sNath damn, tbh the proto tracks aren't that bad but orgins really fucked them up
Hearing the final Ice Cap so quickly after hearing the Prototype version made me appreciate even more how good the final track was.
It's reversed for me. After hearing IceCap final theme, it made me appreciate IceCap prototype theme more for how good the prototype track is.
Yeah, the OG tracks are 100% better than those trash prototype ones in Origins.
@@jboneblood Heh, you're shown that you're really biased. Calling the prototype tracks trash? You kidding? lol They're actually bangers. And this is coming from me who did not grew up with the Sonic and Knuckles PC collection. Preferring the final tracks is all subjective. But the prototype tracks sounds more what you expect of a Sonic game than the final tracks and you call them trash? Just saying.
@@retrofan4963 Yes, because your post doesn't show your bias. Your last sentence doesn't prove anything more that what J said. And yeah, everyone knows there are no arguments here it's just people agreeing with each-other so you don't have to break out the child's manual on how opinions work either.
I agree with J too. The atmosphere is dead in the prototypes.
@@retrofan4963 🤡🤡💩💩💩
It's too bad that Sega disowned the Michael Jackson soundtrack from all modern releases of Sonic 3.
They had to because of all the legal problems they would’ve had if they added the original tracks. But the prototype tracks were still there and sega remixing it is just sega.
@@Klotzy4433 Already have, huge difference. Carnival Night Zone sounds like waiting and then playing in an amusement park, Ice Cap is more leaning on the sound of snow than Ice, and Launch Base, while not as funky, does fit the mood of marching towards the Death Egg before it's too late.
and it's all clobbered by Jun.
@@Klotzy4433 he made the credits music as a preview to stranger in Moscow but the credits aren’t in the game because it’s combined with sonic and knuckles
Not Sega fault, the fault is Sony Music Entertainment for not let them have the original OST for Sonic Orgins.
@@erenjeager9442 what the fuck does sony have anything to do with michael jackson or brad buxer
honestly, Sega needs to hire a new sound arranger. Not a new composer, a new *arranger* AKA the guy that takes the sheet music and puts it into FL studio or somthing to make it sound all... Genisisy.
THEY'RE RIGHT THERE SEGA. YOU KNOW THEM.
THIS. Yeessss! The sound engineers and tech team did miracles for Sonic 3 & Knuckles! Jun Senoue is just a good composer, not a Genesis sound tech.
MJ was the goat for ice cap music, sad he died tho 😢
@@TheHedgehogsYTPOfficalbruh his producer hard carried this track. Pretty sure he said he was hands off for most of the OST.
@@notyilli_2481 so?
Comparing the origins music to the prototype version makes more sense since there are actual wrong notes
Yup
This is literally the only version of this meme I’ve seen that actually has Squidward play the wrong notes, and it’s the best one because of it
Wow sonic origins and sonic 3
The difference in the songs when spongebob demonstrates is so strong that I was blown out of my chair
Ikr
The OG Sonic 3 soundtrack is good and better than Sonic Origins replacement, but atleast the Sonic Origins replacement does a good job remastering the prototype music and making it feel like you are in the zone, the sonic origins for ice cap makes me feel like I am in Ice Cap doing Sonic's thing and go through it with speed
C'mon now, the prototypes where way better than whatever the heck it was we got in Origins.
That is your opinion, not mine you don't have to criticize it.
The Proto music (which was 95% complete by the time of its replacement) was vastly superior to the early Midi's that Jun Senoue based his remixes based on.
The only issue it had was the same as Starlight Zone from sonic 1, where an instrument would get passed over by SFX
only for this zone though
Ice cap even if it ain't perfect in Origins is still fine. It's a sort of lite version which isn't a bad thing.
I hate how they removed that song
*_ITS MY FAVORITE OUT OF THE ENTIRE SOUNDTRACK_*
They had to
other reason why sonic origins was a shitty collection with no love made
@@emersonjr4866 they had no choice
Bro i saw this coming when it was announced
They had no choice. It’s because the original Ice Cap Zone music is composed by Michael Jackson, it is highly unlikely they will get it back as it is now Sony Music property.
This one song cant be replaced by random notes
I've already bought Sonic 1 and 2 so many times, that I see no problem in enjoying Sonic 3&K through emulation, including my favorite music. I've given Sega so much Sonic money through the years. I deserve the original Sonic 3 and that's what I'll play.
Yeah, Sonic 3 Complete is still the best way to play the whole game of Sonic 3&K. It's a romhack made by the same guy who later made sonic mania, Christian whitehead, and it combines both games into 1 as was originally planned, and has all these different options that you wouldn't expect to be there, like you can use the levels and layouts of any of the characters and play through them with any character, e.g. play through the full length game including death egg zone with knuckles, plus it has things like the original level order that was planned (until they had to split the game into two). In the original order, Flying Battery zone is in the sonic 3 half of the game, coming after carnival night zone and before ice cap. So the level transition to ice cap, in the original plan, was to have you fly out of the flying battery through the door, which came loose and fell off too, and then you snowboard down the mountain at the beginning on that door from flying battery instead of just a snowboard that happens to be there.
All those options, and stuff like that, even level transitions, were painstakingly put in the romhack by Christian whitehead for _FREE_ with him obviously never charging anyone any money to download and play it. Yet, Sega expect us to pay £30 or whatever for sonic origins when it has absolutely nowhere near the same number of options as this romhack from 15 years ago
The only thing is, I wonder if Sonic 3 Complete works on original hardware, an actual mega drive. Red Hot Sonic does videos about that so maybe he's done a video on this romhack specifically, I'll have to have a look. But, as it is, I have no desire to play the full sonic 3&K game in any other way than this romhack. It's the definitive way to play it. The only thing that'd make it even better would be if it were wide-screen, but that's no big deal really. The point of sonic games is to play them over and over, learning all the level layouts and enemy placement, so that you can go through the levels quicker and quicker. So you don't need to see what's coming up to know exactly what's coming up, you'll know regardless
I just modded Sonic Origins to play the original music.
"I deserve the original Sonic 3"
lmao
@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 What exactly is funny about that? Genuine question.
@@They_are_Arthur
Because it sounds like your usual fan entitlement. It's funny to hear so many people bitch over some video game music.
Sega can't sell music that they don't have the rights to. It doesn't matter what you think you "deserve". You can't get it. Either stop complaining, or don't buy the game.
I really don't get why people complain about this so much because this was out of Sega's control, they didn't have the legal rights to the old tracks anymore. People have already made mods to patch back in the original music, so it's not even really an issue
console players
It's also the reason there was never a mobile port to sonic 3&K
Teach meeee
Because the game itself is sh!t while the soundtrack is the only thing worth giving a crap about.
If it weren't the case, there wouldn't be so much crying about hard times.
Also, the 40 dollar price tag is brutal for 3.5 2d games that were made when Moses was a kid.
Because they dont like the music in the new one, fanboy
The sonic 3 prototype has the original music
The original music is used in the PC port and origins btw
Just wait till you hear the soundtrack to the steam release of Sonic CD.
I've heard some of it and man... it hurts
@@sonicover how?
Do you mean the Japanese intro track having the lyrics removed? I couldn't really find any other differences.
@@tidalwavetoons No, I mean every song has been replaced with knock off crap, even down to the gameover music.
@@wierdsnake usa bullshit
Keep up with the good work, man. You'll achieve one day...
I actually completely forgot that there was an alternate version of the ice cap zone music. I remember the one for launch base zone because I played a Sonic Knuckles collection on PC back in the '90s, but I forgot about the ice cap one
*Nostalgia.*
SEGA: This is fine.
I'd rather have the ACTUAL prototype music than whatever the hell we were given. Besides, getting the rights to the original music is impossible now because it's not just Michael Jackson's estate they have to deal with but like a bunch of other composers like Brad Buxer. Why else did it take so long for Headcanon to announce the soundtrack to be used in the Sonic 3 portion of the game in between the first trailer, and said announcement?
Funny thing about the newer Icecap OST is that it's actually been around for a VERY long time. I didn't know about the original song since i never got that far on the Mega Drive version. I did however have the PC version from AGES ago when Sonic 3 and Knuckles was on the CD-Rom for PC and the newer icecap song was already there.
Honestly I don’t think the new tracks are bad, but the issue is that the music of Sonic 3 is integral to the game’s feel and charm
I hope this shows an example of how lawsuits can ruin the happiness of many…😢
This was so good that you just earned yourself a new subscriber =)
Squidward has a good point. You can't play music with a piece of paper
Honestly one of the biggest downgrades in video game history
it's not a downgrade, it's the prototype sountrack
(don't reply, it usually ends up blowing up my phone metaphorically)
@@Dont_Try2hard-XD Like I said, downgrade
@@darudesandstrom1067 fair.
"one of the biggest downgrades in history"
it's a song.
I legitimately thought that was for carnival night zone until the second half, that is how different it is.
the truth is that the theme of Sonic Origin is not bad it could easily be the snow theme of any other classic Sonic installment but what was really wrong was that they changed it
On its own its a good ice theme, and very catchy. It just cant fill the shoes left by OG Ice Cap
but this does: ruclips.net/video/BduHT89ZZYQ/видео.html
(this is my favourite sonic ice theme and it comes from a fan-game)
@@garsrandom4358 well, it works very good
@@garsrandom4358 well, it works very good
In my personal opinion, the new Ice Cap Zone theme still sounds really good, but the original still just sounds better
i miss my boy "ice cap zone old"
That's not even the sonic origins version of ice cap theme, thats the s3 prototype version
It’s in sonic origins
@@slapshotjack9806 yeah, but the sonic origins version of ice cap is different then the prototype, and this dude used the prototype version
@@NotCzech001 it just has some extra instrumental the point still gets across though
@@slapshotjack9806 that’s Act 2’s instruments used on Act 1 on Origins as it wasn’t present on the prototype on Act 1
I am really disapointed on sega removing mj amazing soundtracks with crappy music
Well, you gotta accept it, licensing is pretty much a big issue all the time.
Plus imo the Prototype tracks are still good, they aren't the ones in the final game but they are still good in terms of music
@@NeoGraena Isn't sega a billion dollar company?
@@darthvader8744 are you forgetting how greedy SEGA is?
They are charging 40 bucks for 3.5 2d games that were made when Moses was a kid. As if they are going to use that money to bring MJ back from the land of dead and hire him to compone tracks for CD & 3
@@darthvader8744 isn’t Michael Jackson’s music even more successful than like, any sonic game ever? I think it would take a lot of money for them to just get a version of the songs that people like more than the versions they already made.
The prototype music isn’t even bad anyway tbh, I think this is just fanboy whining from y’all lol.
@@Aiden-Ed Not even Michael Jackson music. It was written in the early 80s by a band named The Jetzons which Brad Buxer was a part of. Brad Buxer also worked on Sonic 3 (who claims that MJ was involved but minimal, on this song in particular his involvement was non-existent). For a while SEGA was not bothered and continued to re-release the game and its' music but suddenly stopped. SEGA's old strategy for releasing copyrighted material without paying royalties was to just do it and hope nobody noticed but obviously someone did. SEGA doesn't want to pay for previous usage of songs that didn't belong to them so they are not going to start now.
Ice Cap Zone's song is owned by Fervor Records who makes pretty much all their income by licensing their music out to TV studios and film. So if SEGA wants to use their music Fervor wants money, that is their business model.
You are right though the prototype music isn't that bad, it isn't great like the release music is either though. Criminally though it is not made to even sound like it came from a Sega Genesis. If it did it would probably sound a lot better, that music was after all written with that hardware in mind.
That track used to represent Origins isn’t even from Origins it’s from the actual prototype build. It does use the same song as the prototype but it sounds distinctly different.
Sonic: “NO COPYRIGHT LAW IN THE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO STOP ME!”
sonic: *gets copyrighted*
Sega should’ve thought twice about the soundtrack we all know and love. Because the soundtrack is still owned by the other party. Frickin Micheal Jackson.
This is how I learned about "Hard Times" by the Jetzons, and how that's basically how Ice Cap Zone Act 1's theme came to be.
A meme from SpongeBob criticizing the prototype song used in a collection.
Sonic 2 ending: ever heard of sweet dream by the swinging star?
Squidward is playing the wrong notes but Spongebob's playing the wrong song
Fun fact: this music was actually used in the prototype too
Yes you can't replace perfection. But in all honesty we probably only bought it for sonic cd.
Nah I only bought it so I could play S3@K since there's no other way to play the game other than playing it online with terrible touch screen controls, and the inability to save your progress. I just really wanted to play it since it's my favorite Sonic game, so I got it. The other 3 games I already have on my phone so I didn't really care for them.
Except that IceCap prototype theme does replace IceCap final theme in terms of quality. So I disagree with you.
Honestly I like both tracks
SpongeBob: Hooray hooray that was great Squidward all those wrong notes you played made it sound more original
Squidward: what I didn’t play any wrong notes
SpongeBob: yeah see you’re playing it like this, when ordinarily it goes like this, I’m partially doing it in the key minor myself
Hard times is my alarm. It’s a nice touch you added here :^)
Bro the prototype even sounds better than origins
The song origins is playing is the prototype
0:29 um, actually 🤓.. mmmhmm. Ice cap zone is in the key of C minor, not A minor.. 🤓🤓
The game can't be origins if it didn't have that.
I say SEGA failed to put the most iconic Sonic Stage OST
I haven't even played Sonic Origins, and I was shocked to see this was the remake of Ice Cap Zone. Truly dissapointing
The "remake" IceCap zone music is the actual original tune. Check out the Sonic 3 Nov- 1993 prototype.
Fun fact:even youtube hates the new song and doesn't even treat it like a song the subtitles dont say a thing when the new one is playing
Man that song older then Og ice cap
Maybe that's because they're instrumental?
This is big facts
I'm actually, he was playing the original song from the Beta. Which means that it is the original one. Also it's used in the peacy port so he is right
I mean it’s this or commit intellectual theft. If I were a soulless company machine I know what I’d choose.
I wish Sega actually paid for the license to bring back Michael Jackson and the Jetson's music.
Well that's pretty hard to do
@@BillyAnderson1402 Its not. All they had to do was pay the people who they were supposed to.
@@KingStr0ng they dont want sega using the music.
@@NovaBoi7 Where did you get that information?
And then people would complain that the price is insane.
Pero debes admitir que aun asi suena bien
no suena mal pero a comparación de ice cap original duele
@@sonicover para que negarlo xd
The new ost doesn't looks really bad, its just looks strange, because everyone, have stuck in the mind, that ice cap music, is the original sonic 3 one, and not the sonic origins one
The original ice cap zone was always the best background music in Sonic 3
I disagree. Also, IceCap prototype theme is a much better music.
Cierto. En lo personal adoro el tema de Ice Cap del 3, aunque a decir verdad no sabía de la versión de Origins
Escucha el 1993 Music del Sonic 3 Beta, es mas mejor del Origins
I honestly don’t think that origin’s ICZ track is bad, but not as good as hard times
Using the mashup here is just *chef's kiss *
This actually loops really well lol, try it out yourself if anyone's reading this
That’s not sonic origins that’s the prototype.
Yeh, I realized later unfortunately
proto icz and orgins icz are EXACTLY the same (in act 2)
You mean a remix of the prototype
I've been playing sonic 3 for the first time with the sega classics collection on steam. Didn't know until today it still hosts the original songs on that version. Feeling lucky.
I can't!
You made me promise no matter how much you begged and pleaded and cried, not to give the paper back ever!
The end bit killed it 🤣
This is so true
Can we make a mod that brings back that music? I infinitely like the original better.
There's one for PC: ruclips.net/video/F64cFa2R45U/видео.html
I could take or leave the original Carnival Night or Launch Base, but Ice Cap? Leave that shit alone!
I'm just glad that I purchased sonic 3 on my Xbox years ago. Still have the original music 🎶
old spongebob before they made him an obnoxious unfunny fruitbasket 🌈
oh , i got off topic …
Yo, where'd those lyrics come from? I wanna hear that remix.
A song from the Jetzones called "Hard Times"
ruclips.net/video/iPNgC3gBaq4/видео.html
It's OG actually
From a band called the jetzones
They helped on the sountrack as their members usually workes with MJ
They in ract did most the work
Props for using the Jetzones version 👏
Life hack: I played Sonic Origins on mute on those levels and just had my headphones to my RUclips and played the OG soundtrack 😂
Damn SpongeBob you didnt need to do him like that
I thought i forgot the song but when SpongeBob said hes playing the notes wrong and he makes it sound more original he ain't jokeing
Thank you MJ for this banger of a theme.
It was because of The Jetzons and specifically Brad Buxer
I miss the old icecap zone
You knew we wanted the mashup
The biggest loss in the 2020s is that the original icecap zone will most likely never be seen again
Why is everyone mad at sonic origins for not using music from an early version 💀💀💀💀sonic fans get mad at everything just like an early version of frontiers
It's crazy the fact that this video is actually made in the release day of sonic origins
Eyyyyy, that's lit man
This comparison makes so much sense
THIS IS FIRE 🔥
Ice cap zone was my favorite song out of all of them it was so sad to see it gone
It sucks that they couldn't secure those rights from Jackson's estate and I do accept it. Though this does represent our feelings on the matter as fans lol.
The 200th video I liked
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Okay this is my favourite "Wrong Notes Meme". I really do love Hard Times - The Jetzons.
Never gets old lmao
True
Hold the phone for a second.
Origins played the PROTO version of ICZ Act 1.
a pc prototype that was compressed to death lol
They should've used the prototype Icecap music in S3 AIR. That version actually goes so hard ngl.
"We should try to get those songs back?"
"Nah, let's just use the prototype themes, people won't care"
the people:
I wish that Sonic 3 Prototype came and saved Sonic origins
They should’ve kept the sonic 3 ice cap (hard times)
The reason why they can’t use it for origins, is because sonic 3 used music from the jetsons, it was a collaboration with them. So that’s why they can’t use it.
I love the old song
I don’t know why, but I like this meme format
The new ost is alright I guess, but you can’t beat perfection.
I don't hate the new one, but the old one I can't listen to without the image of one of those big camping coolers just in my head, and that's pretty chilly
I got so mad when I realized they didn’t use the other ice cap music
This is why Sonic 3 AIR is the definitive way to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles