Are DOLL Collectors FATPHOBIC ? 😞 Barbie, Monster High, Rainbow High
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2023
- Doll Chat Video about the rampant amount of FATPHOBIA in the Doll Collecting Sphere, whether it's on Instagram, TikTok or Doll Twitter.
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I think the problem with Barbie is that while Mattel has ushered in this new era of Body Positivity for the Barbie and making them all shapes and sizes they've just as hastily stopped being Fashion dolls. So now instead of having the bigger curvier dolls join in on the fashion fantasy that Barbie used to entail all they get is these frumpy, a-line box dresses w/ garish prints. Which in turn makes them seem less appealing, which really sucks. Young kids/adults wanted Barbie to be more inclusive with her sizing because they wanted the different body types to be able to participate in that beautiful fashion lifestyle that their skinnier Barbie counterparts had. But now it's as if Mattel has considered it an even trade, as if they're not allowed to have both and I wish that wasn't so.
@@acorlite They deserve it!!
I agree I think they made concepts of the larger body kinda lame cause the fashion sucks. They took that fantasy away which make the dolls boring. They could have been really fab
I don’t think it was so purposeful, I think they have less of a budget with all the different dolls sculpts they have to make now
You are on point. I personally love curvy Barbie because since I became a mom of 3 I moved from size 28/30 to size 32/34 and see myself in the Barbie Looks Elle. I just hate the flat foot curvy dolls as I personally love heels. And yeah I hate those A-line frocks/t-shirt dress.
I like the body options mattel offers, but the issues I have are clothes and shoes don't fit all body types - curvy, tall and petite bodies are difficult to find clothes for. Mainly, Curvy because the shoes are all flat tennis shoes with t shirt dresses with cheesy slangs' 😭
I personally find that most new MGA dolls always have a very healthy looking and naturally average bodies compared to what used to be the standard and now Mattel is also following but theirs sacrifice style for inclusivity and that's something I am less on board with...
I love the shape of the RH girls and the new ones are even curvier
I honestly think if you ask most adult women who played with Barbie as kids if their body image was shaped by their dolls, they’ll say no - it was the adults around them who made comments about “acceptable” and “sexy” bodies. And of course the attitudes of their peers. NOT Barbie or Bratz or other dolls. Having said that, I love Curvy Barbies (especially Looks) and tend to collect them the most!
I think I prefer the slim classic Barbie body, I really loved the model muse body. Having said that I really like to see other options and I think there are very beautiful fuller figured dolls and the petite body molds as well. It’s good to have choices and I think it’s smart of Mattel to be more inclusive. I think there is something great about having choices and it’s great to see someone who is body positive. Learning to love yourself no matter what size you are is a battle for a lot of people. Barbie will never take away her classic slimmer physique but it’s nice to know there are other shapes as well. Also I love some of the newer face molds and skin tones. I recently bought my first full figure Barbie, she’s the you can be anything scientist with blue hair, she’s really pretty. Great video and it great to see someone make an unbiased video not shaming anyone for their choices.
Thank you for watching ☺️💖
i have a history of anorexia that started in high school and ended in my late twenties.
As i approach 40, i still care about my weight, but i'm comfortable enough in my body where i no longer feel the need to starve myself for a week or punish myself at a gym.
It's funny though.
My body dysmorphia had nothing to do with dolls. Instead, it was cultivated by actual humans and their destructive beauty standards.
i realized that it was dysmorphia when i saw old photos of myself and saw that there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with how i looked and that i will most likely look at my 39-year-old self 10 years from now and see the exact same thing!
No matter how badly you THINK you look now, trust me:
YOU. ARE. FINE.
Do not buy what these corporations or what society tries to sell you.
It's all bullshit.
Thank you for watching and sharing your journey ☺️💕
@@dontcallmedoll Thank you for reading all of that.
i actually prefer Barbie's original "hour glass mannequin" shape. i'm not fat-phobic (people have been misusing the word "phobic" a LOT lately), but i prefer that my dolls look a certain way so that they can fit into the clothes that i like and look graceful in them.
At this point, i am so sick and tired of people pushing for their dolls to look more "realistic".
i just don't understand the obsession.
Barbie is not an actual woman, it's a doll. A brand!
As a child, i never heard of other kids complaining about their dolls in that way.
It was always adults.
Now it's the kids from the 90s who seem to be complaining about the bodies of fashion dolls.
It says more about them than toy companies.
How weak-minded must a person be to base their self-esteem on a child's toy?
I don't mind the curvy Barbies, BUT, I would like them more if they had nicer fashions (& nice fashion packs), high-heeled feet, and better articulation. Their faces are soooo pretty, and they're dressed in potato sacks! I am a 'curvy' woman myself and have rebodied a lot of the new diverse-body Barbies - they just can't share clothes and shoes like the older ones could. Growing up with 80's Barbies, most could always share clothes and the fashions were always so fun & stylish. I miss that. Great video. 😊
Personally, I believe Mattel should continue having diverse body types because it gives children and collectors more opinions to shape our collections to what we want it to look like. This decision broaden their audience/consumer base. Personally, I like having as much diversity as possible in my collection because it makes each doll more individualized.
The problem is, Mattel, in particular, did not commit to clothes being fashionable for different body types for almost a decade now. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't have those body types on the market due to Mattel's lack of quality and focus on fashion.
Also, your statement around 9:12 seems less likely to me because curvy Barbie isn't the only body type being used. Unlike in the past when skinny dolls were the sole body type on the market.
Sorry for the long comment and I enjoy your video discussions~💜
Everyone collects for different reasons and everyone has different play patterns. I like diverse dolls because I like character. I like looking at different people and creating identities for them. I also love fashion but I like to dress the dolls in outfits I think the character would wear. I love different body types. I am weird I know. BTW. You are always adorable no matter what you weigh. Fun video as usual!
Thank you 💖
What I like about the curvy dolls is how they feel compared to the standard barbies. They feel more solid whereas the new standard Barbies feel very light and cheap. I don’t like the limited clothing for them and the T-shirt sacks and frumpy fashions.
Dude youre hot! Glad youre feeling comfortable in your skin. B4 i started having kids a decade ago, i was always a size 4. Now im not so preoccupied with myself as my time isnt my own. Very nice video!
I prefer a particular body shape for my dolls but I can appreciate other shapes and sizes. But they are dolls for MY enjoyment not anyone else and I pay for them so whatever I like is MY CHOICE and doesn't rely on anybody's approval. If I wanted to be told what I can and can't have I would have stayed 6yrs old.
You are very handsome.
Thank you for your honesty and thoughtful commentary.
since im older and i have all the skinny barbies, for my second collection i buy just the curvy so im glad the collectors dont want them cause it makes the dolls cheaper and on sale but like one lady said the curvy s clothes Suck i sew so no biggy
Interesting topic. Thank you for making such a thought provoking video 👍🏾
BTW I love the "Curvy" Barbie, but avoid the "Tall" 🤷🏽♀️
Thx again 😊
I'm a big boy and I want to see a thicc daddy Ken (but not with chicken legs like they gave Hagrid). There was a startup company called Curvy Gurlz (now Plus Girls) and I was really hoping they'd make it big with their plus size dolls, but it's been over 3 years and they still haven't made it to production. I was excited for the curvy body, especially the MTM ones but it's so hard to style them with their bigger feet (which was def an unnecessary change) and the size of their breasts and derriers (the clothes slides off if its body conforming) all they can wear is sack dresses 😭
Great video 👏 Thank you for addressing the topic-I fell back in Love with Barbie with the launch of Curvy Barbie I started to notice people were swapping out the bodies I get it in terms of fashion and shoes but it Really enrages me 🤨😤😡 I love to find regular size outfits and make them work for Curvy Barbie it takes extra effort but that’s the body she came with and we need to Respect that ❤
A doll is an object. We can adapt it to our preference by creativity and play. It’s got nothing to do with respect imo.
Yes Kami, put whatever you want in your mouth! It’s your mouth! 😂
I definitely understand the argument that doll bodies need adjusted measurements to account for fashions having bulky fabrics and seams.
I personally like when independent doll artists play with doll proportions and exaggerate certain features etc. because it makes the doll more interesting and more like a work of art. But I also understand that I’m a grown adult who can compartmentalize my views on what a doll is and what a human is. A doll is doll, a human is a human and neither the twain shall meet!
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Love this video…very thoughtful exploration of size and beauty. Thank you ❤
Thanks for your video I like to watch....
I do both, swap slender girls to a curvy body and Vice versa. I love the curvy body, it’s very shapely. The only body I do not care for is the tall body as it has little curves.
The main reasons I have for swapping curvy and tall bodies for standard ones is 1. Shoes aren’t standard amongst the body types, and there isn’t a lot of variety in the sizes that are available to these dolls. 2. There isn’t much variety in tall and curvy clothes. 3. There aren’t a ton of made to move body swaps that match the skin tone and body type of non articulated curvy/tall dolls.
I think it's a personal choice of what your favorite body is for Barbie. When I have liked a face/head on a "curvy" type body, I ditch her body and swap it for the regular size body. Having worked in the fashion industry I know that my attitude is probably influenced by some who I have worked with. But take a look at any fashion show video like Versace, Chanel, etc. They are very diverse ethnically and that is a very good thing but if they have 1 "curvy" model.. it's still very rare. And to close this comment I have 1 designer friend that said it loud and clear to me about a year ago. He said, "Fat is fat.. not going to happen on my watch!!" Again, I think it's a personal choice. I think it's great that there are now regular, tall, short, curvy dolls available for those who want them in their collection!! 😊❤
Great video. The fashion industry is definitely fatphobic with body dysmorphia and promotes eating disorders. Mattel is trying to be inclusive, which is wonderful. But as an adult collector and someone who worked in fashion, I prefer thin mannequins for clothing such as Integrity Toys. However, it’s wonderful that Barbie can encourage their child demographic to embrace diversity.
Ich do like the new bodies (thinking about to get some MH 3 bodies or nude dolls to restyle because of that). But it’s still for aesthetic because other than you I get bored fast and I love uniqueness and variation. And let’s be honest they are still far from realistic, perfectly shaped, tight curves that don’t move? But I don’t want it different because I want perfection, a beautiful fantasy. So I totally feel your point. I also thought about it might can make sense for children targeted dolls because they can’t draw this line?
Having an ED myself for years and there are so many factors but I think I can say common beauty standards are (to me) an issue since a big part of it comes from the wish to be loved. But I‘m also so tired of the whole debate and if someone asks: Yes my dolls are influencing my self immage, I really envy my Shadow High dolls for the green skin.
Or spoken to whoever out there: Can we please stop to perceive people for their shape? It’s so harmful even with good intention. Aesthetic preferences are ok, just don’t throw it at other people, ok? And if a relationship (any kind) is based on that, well that’s not healthy. Better act it out with for example dolls to close the circle.
Is their doll.. none of my business.. i dont like people to tell me what to do with my dolls so i don't do that to others .. your doll, your business
You're so handsome and it kills me you didn't think you're good enough. : ( you also kind of remind me a little bit of Anthony Padilla who is my childhood crush haha
Thank you. He's very handsome so I take that as a big compliment haha 😊
Loved this discussion!
Idk how to feel the dolls are curvy but idk if them making them skinny is I'll intended I think it's wht you do with your dolls and intentions
6 ft 200 lbs isn’t too heavy. But, what ever feels good for you. You look good.
I’m not against bigger Barbies being made, I just don’t want any in my collection. My aesthetic is very old school Barbie and I don’t think that makes me fatphobic at all. We all have our preferences.
barbie and everyone should know by now who their target audience is hence why they cast the beautiful Margot Robbie to play barbie lets not play dumb majority of us are fighting with political correctness vs wanting "very beautiful dolls". Bimbo aesthetic is coming back in style and i personally think barbie should cater to all people. there are tons of women and men who have healthy relationships with their body playing with bimbo looking dolls. i understand some will say beauty is at the eye of the beholder but biology disagrees; i was at my healthiest when skinny so that speaks for its self.
EDIT: i also want to mention that i as a boy am more cinched at the waist than nowadays barbie and so are the women in my family so why don't we get represented in the body types? its hypocrisy.
I feel like for a collector how you collect and enjoy your dolls is completely up to you however if you’re a parent switching the heads off of the curvy Barbie’s onto the smaller Barbie’s I think that’s where we kind of get into a dangerous area. In your own space on your own social media it’s up to you if you’re pushing the thinner bodies onto the kids that’s an issue. For the children playing with them they are all just people and should be treated as such for a collector the dolls are what they want them to be for themselves
Now Mattel makes all the clothing lose so they can fit the Curvy dolls. The thin Barbies dresses look like potatoe sacks on them! In the 60s everyone was thin so Barbie s body was not an issue. Now people got fatter so it became a issue.
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I love curvy dolls, and unlike you I love a mixed bag of shapes and forms on my shelf. I wish they did even curvier bodies and more even more diverse features like shorter legs or hicker arms for example. What matters to me is not the body but the general design of the dolls. I do some restyles but my collecting is also a lot about the dolls as they came first. So sizing of shoes, clothes etc don't matter as much to me.
I am older than you but with your age indeed, and mine, I think we grew in probably some of the most fatphobic times in the history of human kind... Not good at all.
I am just happy there is more diversity... At last....
PS: you're hansdsome! But you must know it, many people told you :)
I think the thicker dolls could have effects...like wanting a skinny waist but huge butt and hips like most dolls these days. however all body types are realistic and that doesn't mean people should worry about how it will effect body image . Because there will never be a perfect body to make everyone happy. we have skinny dolls we have thick dolls and if that triggers people then....people are worrying about the wrong things. it's a doll.
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I buy curvy, tall and petite years ago… for me it’s terrible dress this doll! I sell and I love only original Barbie body! Personally fat it’s not beautiful… I’m sorry
Listen I’m gonna say what everyone else is thinking…. I want my Barbies skinny, feminine, GLAMOROUS and blonde!!! I hate this whole brand change Mattel is doing with every doll considered “Barbie”. I miss when every doll had their own identity and character name. The whole “career” thing is so obnoxious too. All the glamor of Barbie has been stripped away. This whole pandering to a small group of people is just ridiculous 🙄
The problem with Mattel curvy bodies is they don't look very nice. OMG dolls curvy bodies are cute and sexy. Rainbow High are fine too, a bit curvy, just what is needed. I have 2 curvy Barbie Extra dolls and I don't think their bodies look good. I will not swap bodies, too complicated but I prefer Barbie to be slim. She is a fashion model after all! I also don't like dolls looking realistic. It does not interest me. And I think MH original skinny bodies were great for these dolls. They fit the design and style perfectly. They are not meant to represent reality.
I don’t want my dolls to look realistic either. I like them to look like a doll, a fantasy. Super long hair and super long legs and tiny little waist. I like the older face sculpts too. I don’t look at my dolls as people , just dolls and I love the fantasy.
i personally dont like curvy dolls, but im not fatphobic. Its just how i like dolls. I have a friend who collects curvy dolls so theres different flavors for everyone in this earth
Honestly, so real for bringing attention to this. And even calling out yourself on it and explaining it, it’s very mature of you. Thank you so much for making this into a video, I hope it sparks more conversation on this subject within the dollmunity. 🫶🏻
Thank you, appreciate it ☺️
I just hate what they did to Draculaura. OMG!! I don't like the new Monster High at all. I literally don't even consider them Monster High anymore. I think we should be able to have the kinds of dolls we want. I love blond hair, blue eyed, skinny Barbies the most. I also love the beach feet barbies. Why are people so obsessed with having to be insanely in love with every aspect of themselves. I can be happy and laugh at myself since I have flaws. I don't care! I don't have to be madly in love with myself to be happy. Its my body and I'm happy about it. I love my skinny dolls and it has nothing to do with judging body shapes. They are dolls not people. Most of my friends have been over weight and I actually don't even notice much about it. I see them not their body size or flaws. People need to calm down about being madly in love with themselves and wanting to seeeeee themselves eveyrwhere at the same time. Oh look i spelled it wrong.. i actually have dyslexia and I don't care about that flaw.. its not a big deal.
I will continue to swap heads for doll repair/restoration & for giving them a more functional movement/posing & for a sexyer look too, so if I swap a curvey girl head to a slim made to move or model muse body that's my decision & my right. 🩷💯